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What is his problem?
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His problem is that gamers are mentally retarded. Saying "We will make TES:6 eventually" years before development begun is not the same as what is considered a proper announcement. Should be common sense, but these are the same subhumans who buy incomplete early access %$70 Skinner boxes like Diablo 4.
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it's really weird because before 2018, Bethesda was all about no announcing anything and then a full court press 6 months before release.
Didn't they do that with Skyrim and Fallout 4. Did it not do well for them?
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It doesnt matter how much time they take, Skyrim will keep selling just like the Oblivion Demake. And no matter what, if the ES6 releases, people will not say shit about it taking too long and will cry and piss and cum as they screech in joy to have a new open world map to do the things they were doing in Skyrim.
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>in the 2000's you could make an entire trilogy of games with 10-20 people and it would have more content, fun gameplay and an engaging story or worldbuilding
>2020's you need a 500 million dollar budget a team of 100-500 people (most of them jeets) and over 6 years to make a game that plays worse and looks worse than one from the 2000's
Does this not seem wrong to anyone? I mean like what the actual fuck happened to this industry in that all the talent and competence died overnight?
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Corporate whoring took over. When video games started making more money, it inflated budgets. Combining that with the higher fidelity graphics and how video games garnered a larger audience over the years, it was only a matter of time before game development reached this shitty state.
Big companies like Bethesda have to go through 8 million different types of checks before they can release a game. While niche games with a smaller fanbase still obviously exist, big AAA companies can't just release something with a very specific vision that's straightforward and may not be for everyone. They MUST develop a game that caters to everyone, spend years texturing rocks for no reason, let long term game developers leave the studio so there isn't any talent left, and simultaneously make sure that not a single human being in existence can be offended.
Basically, teams were smaller back then, so they could work together and get that shit done. Big companies have thousands of employees with too many ideas working on the same game so it goes through 10 years of development to eventually release as an unfocused, buggy, unsatisfying waste of time.
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>>737135610
>to this industry
lmao accountants in power have been the bane of every industry since the beginning of urbanization. There's not a single sector that hasn't suffered from it in the history of human endeavor.
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>>737135610
>I mean like what the actual fuck happened to this industry
it became big enough to attract finance sharks who don't give the slightest fuck about the product and only want to manipulate stock prices to make money in the short-medium period with no regard for the company's long term health or brand value.
The result is massively overblown productions for the sake of trying to equate the heaviest hits in the industry, and why? Because if you make prospective stockholders believe you're going to release the next grand theft skyrim or call of zelda, stock prices will soar.
But they'll collapse when it comes out and it's a piece of shit you say? Nobody cares. Everyone in the know already shorted and everyone else (meaning the customers and the retards left holding the bag) was always just meant for victimization.
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when skyrim came out I was only 18, still in HS
this year im turning 34, im married and will have kids soon
what the FUCK bethesda
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>>737138550
congrats for your kid anon
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>>737135848
would depend on your definition of a trailer
I viewed it as an announcement, not an actual trailer, because it was literally just a little shot of mountains with the name on it.
Also average layman is misleading. I'm an average gamer and I understand full well that a game is made across 10 years sometimes, especially a good large RPG. The "Average layman" in your scenario is more like a retarded shit for brains nigger retard.
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>>737138550
>The ps3 is 20 this year
>There is less time between snes-ps3 (1990-2006 so 16 years) than between the ps3 and now
>the ps4 is old as the ps2 was when the ps4 released (2000-2013 2013-2026)
>There is more time between the atari 2600 and the first xbox, than between the first xbox and now (1977-2001 2001-2026)
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>There is more time between the atari 2600 and the first xbox, than between the first xbox and now (1977-2001 2001-2026)
Less time* the first xbox is older for us than the atari 2600 when the first xbox was released
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>Now announcing Elder Scrolls 6:___Skyrim___
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People would be asking about tes6 with or without an announcement
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Did everyone forget that the only reason Bethesda announced Elder Scrolls 6 so early was that the only new games they were showing at the time were Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Blades and they didn't want a similar shit show that blizzard got for announcing Diablo Immortal without confirming to the fans that there still making a Diablo 4 so it was Bethesda way of saying we're not abandoning our traditional games to chase the live service dragon.
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>>737133847
Because starfield was leaked and bethesdafans were livid the next game after fo0/76 wasnt going to be an elder scrolls. Announcing early was their way of trying to buy good will with their fanbase.
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I would buy it.
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By the time TES6 actually comes out it'll bomb hard because Bethesda RPGs are literally unc-coded
Zoomers didn't play Skyrim and never grew up with Elder Scrolls like millennial uncs did
It will also get mogged by Witcher 4, KCD3, E33 2, some new Fromslop RPG and some other new IP
You can see this with the current state of Skyrim modding as well; modding went from fixing Bethesda's shit, adding waifus and waifu replacers to perfecting custom sex animations leading to changing Skyrim's combat into parryslop and/or actionslop to the point that they're not really playing Skyrim anymore but instead are playing an entirely new game with Skyrim tacked onto it
Daily reminder to everyone that Skyrim's development only took 3 years since they only started working on it after Fallout 3 in 2008, the game has been re-released twice and is still active 15 years later
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>>737133756
he makes it sound like the announcement was like a casual thing he dropped in an interview or something but it was a whole hyped planned logo teaser at a presentation kek
like what is possibly his excuse if it wasn't just to dupe investors?
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>>737133752
>His problem is that gamers are mentally retarded. Saying "We will make TES:6 eventually" years before development begun is not the same as what is considered a proper announcement.
>'No you see, it doesn't count because I said so. Please disregard the announcment being used to boost stock prices so we can appeal to shareholders. Oy vey STOP NOTICING GOYIM.
Lmao, shut the fuck up kike.
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>>737147421
i guess but zoomers grew up on BOTW its not really a stretch that they'd enjoy a next gen TES
I know more zoomers who talk about fallout though than TES its true
and given the timeline of this game's release, we may more be talking about gen alpha and I have no fucking clue what those freaks are playing or will want to play
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the issue is Bethesda sees Skyrim as a success, because it was. Its systems were shallow and somewhat outdated even for the time, and yet it is essentially the highlight of their companies existence. People think TES 6 and they imagine a game where they greatly improve upon Skyrim but why would they see it that way when Skyrim was called one of the greatest game of all time by retards? Maybe they've learned their lesson now with Starfield but TES6 is going to be shockingly dated and bland mark my words
It will be different from Skyrim and I'm sure they're paying attention to their peers some (BG3 in particular) but this company has really no reason to make a good game next.
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I really don't get Starfield
Its easy to think it was out of arrogance but I honestly wonder if it was just severe tech limitations and being too deep in to start over
According to Todd, the main reason TES6 is gonna take awhile is because they're making a new engine finally
There's a small chance that TES6 is actually interesting because they spent the time to lay a new foundation instead of being stuck in creation engine hell
Issue is there's no reason to trust them even a little
I remember Todd doing starfield interviews talking about how now that they were owned by Microsoft they had the financial freedoms to go back to their roots and make a more hardcore RPG
wtf was he talking about? I can't even squint and see that given what Starfield ended up being. Dudes a demon which sucks because hes ridiculously likeable if you watch interviews and know nothing about him.
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>>737135610
AAA has too many cooks in the kitchen, too much publisher oversight, is over-organized to the point of being non-functioning. They are filled with people who "love the brand" but don't really have an intimate relationship with the games they are making.
Small teams have passion, communication, vision and enough chaos to oil the cogs.
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a lot of cooking content feels extremely smug in general it annoys the fuck out of me
I like the idea of cooking but the way people talk about it and show it is so fucking irritating
some retard will make a stew and the way he describes dumping the ingredients in is as if he did some skillful task or something its actually so aids
the aesthetic of a lot of cooking videos doesn't help where it'll be extremely high effort looking content for the most mundane tasks imaginable
it just all seems so oddly ego driven and its not like these are world famous chefs or anything
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>>737133752
>gamers are retarded
:^) Sure must suck being financially tied to a bunch of retards. Show some respect faggot, without me you don't work. (Bethesda plant prolly)
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Todd im tired of playing skyrim and the oblivion remake is unoptimized ue5 turd.
im begging you to just produce something of worth.
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its amazing to me how delusional bethesda is about starfield.
Everybody sees it flopped, everybody knows its a flop and they just keep trying to resurrect this dead space slop game.
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>>737149146
It's Todd and Emil's vanity project. The end result is extremely fitting, and shows just how hard their success was carried by existing ips they had nothing to do with creating. That left alone to imagine their own unique ip and world all they could make was something incredibly uninteresting.
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>>737133474
does he think waiting 2 decades increases the hype? lol probably half the fans already lost interest
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to be fair to Todd he had a major role in morrowind and did a lot of turd wrangling but he is long past his glory days.
But yeh Emil needs to fuck right off, completely garbage writer needs to be replaced by ted peterson or kirkbride.