>>737142714
pedo ahh looking unc

I don't care about this kiwitranny co-opted shit I want more game dungeon

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>>737142714
>This is going to kill gaming.

>>737142714
it says "stop killing games" right there you retard.

>>737142762
I'm afraid there aren't any urban youths where I live.
How does one pronounce 'ahh?'
Is it a descending or flat sound like a sort of 'err...' to give the impression you don't know what you're trying to say or a rising one, like a little scream? I like this idea, of one having to punctuate their speech with cries for help.
Does it perhaps accentuate the previous word and attach to it, like 'pedo-aah!'

I know you're just pretending to be a 'zoomer' on 4channel for comedic purposes, but I would be pleased if you would address this query.

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>>737142714

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>>737142714
Kill yourself Jason

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>another bait thread
why don't you ubisoft CEOs save some money on jeet shill farms and go lobby the actual bureaucrats deciding on this instead

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>>737142714
DO NOT REDEEEM

>>737142714
Good

>>737143335
It’s a censorship for “ass” the same way “unalive” is for kill, so it’s a short sound.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB17W12LtoU
VIDEO MAKER, AHEAD OF HIS TIME
INCREDIBLY MOLDY GENIUS, MACHINIMA MASTERMIND
BUT NOW HE'S LAWYERED UP AND FIGHTING CRIME
OUR POLICY HERO WHO KILLS ALWAYS-ONLINE

'CAUSE FREEMAN'S MIND
FEELS GOOD TO PLAY VIDYA THAT'S MINE
'CAUSE FREEMAN'S MIND
OH, 'CAUSE FREEMAN'S MIND

CORPOSLURPER THEY BETTER SHILL AND WHINE
MOLDMAN AND THE GERMAN KATZNER ARE WORKING OVERDRIVE
THAT BALDING HEAD
IN PARLIAMENT IT SHINES
CAUSE HE'S A HERO
OUR POLICY HERO
OUR POLICY HERO WHO KILLS ALWAYS-ONLINE

'CAUSE FREEMAN'S MIND
FEELS GOOD TO PLAY VIDYA THAT'S MINE
FROM FREEMAN'S MIND
OH, 'CAUSE FREEMAN'S MIND

'CAUSE FREEMAN'S MIND
OH, IT FEELS GOOD TO PLAY VIDYA THAT'S MINE
FROM FREEMAN'S MIND
SAY IT WITH ME NOW
'CAUSE FREEMAN'S MIND
FEELS GOOD TO PLAY VIDYA THAT'S MINE
'CAUSE FREEMAN'S MIND (IT FEELS GOOD TO PLAY VIDYA THAT'S MINE)
FREEMAN'S MIND
OUR POLICY HERO WHO KILLS ALWAYS-ONLINE
'CAUSE FREEMAN'S MIND
FREEMAN'S MIND

>>737143680
Oh, I wouldn't have imagined that.
Does it only appear in writing or do zoomers say it in person like 'ah.'
Why does 'ass' require censorship in the first place? Does it aversely affect your Youtube Shorts algorithm or something?

>>737143680
sounds retarded

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ban one thing and something more horrible will take it's place. thinking it will get better during late stage capitalism is wishful thinking.

>>737144101
They do say it in person. It does sound retarded. It's mostly the youngest zoomers and gen alpha though. Oldest gen Z are the most misunderstood gen. They get lumped in with trends that are much much younger than them. Old gen Z are already in their 30s or close to. It's not the 25-33 gen Z kids saying shit like this. They also aren't tate heads or clavicular stans. They get lumped in with the behaviors and trends of gen alpha.
t.33 baby millennial

>>737144529
Touch grass nigga

>>737144608
i touch ur mum instead

>>737144645
Yeah can your ass got no game.

>>737144101
>Why does 'ass' require censorship in the first place? Does it aversely affect your Youtube Shorts algorithm or something?
Exactly that. It started out of necessity, and because of it's widespread use in video culture it spread into real life.

>>737142714
We need to kill gaming to save gaming unironically. Thank you moldman.

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>>737142714
>SKG niggers are unable to come to terms with the fact that they could simply chose not to pay for Triple-A GaaS slop.
Skill issue.

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>>737142714
based

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>>737142714
It's just going to make publishers find new ways to filch their customers, but it's about time for a shake up.

>>737144598
>>737144719
Fascinating.
I've learned a lot about zoomers. I shouldn't like to meet one.

>>737143693
kino

>>737142714
(And that's a good thing)

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>>737144757
>retarded cat avatarfag didn't have enough of doing it during the whole of EU daytime so he has to do it for the whole of NA daytime too
Literal humiliation ritual.

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START
KILLING
GAMES

An industry that only makes always-online trash for retards is one I actively want killed.

>>737142714
Games existed just fine as Japan + USA

>>737142762
but enough about your employer shilloid

>>737144757
>these problems don't affect me therefore the issue does not exist

>>737142714
it's already dead though. I haven't bought anything but indie games in years.

>>737145391
>replying to the toxotransmongoloid
anon, please

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>>737145391
>SKG fags when someone reminds them that they could simply not buy GaaS products.

>>737142714
Good.

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>lost all my new Japanese twitter follows when they learned about SKG and they saw me tweeting support for it

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>GaaS fags when someone reminds them that they could simply not buy planned obsolesence

>>737145654
Good. Japan will save us from the industry collapsse will inevitably cause.

>>737144757
>Just dont pay for it

>nigger ignoring how every company in the entire world just keeps pushing for shit to get worse and its only laws and regulation thats stopping them from giving you cancer

>>737145654
Japs and their sycophantic worship of corporations puts even the most zogged of mutts to shame. I really don’t get it.

>>737145654
They will thank you when their companies actually start rolling out the plans because they believe the company is always correct anyway.

>>737145741
>>737145572
Do you have an actual argument that isn't just "ignore the problem"

>just don't buy the food with poison in it, why do you need the government to regulate it

>>737145741
Yet I think GaaS games way better than standard single player anymore. They often don't push faggots and trannies, and often have skippable stories. They know why you're there and let you grind and meta game.

>>737145861
If it outsells normal food, and 99% of consumers don't mind it, then what's the problem?

>>737145784
Somethingsomething the companies respect author copyright (until they don't, like with Kojima)

>>737142714
No, it's going to stop killing gaming.

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>>737145921
>They often don't push faggots and trannies

>>737142714
He saved Gaming

>>737145924
goycattle brain
>what's the problem
I mean the fact that you even have to ask means you can never reach a point where you understand what the problem is. You're quite literally too stupid. I know people like you exist, but I didn't think they could figure out how to post on 4chan.

>>737145990
sure, Westerners are obviously faggots themselves, but Easterners aren't doing that.

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>SKG threads during europoor timezones
>unanimous support, some remarks about ross' appearance but that's about it
>SKG threads during american timezones
>this will kill gaming, this initiative is communist, i am on the company's side yadda yadda
huh

>>737145774
Video games are not essential goods or services. You can just not play them if they suck. You can play good games instead, or do something else with your free time.
SKG is an exercise in futility because gamers WANT exploitative products made to gyp them and turn them into dopamine addicts. They are the lemmings of consumerism. They yearn for the slop.

>>737145924
>99% of consumers don't mind
1% of 450 million people is a lot of people who don't want poison in their food

>>737142714
Once the EU gets more hands on with gaming they are going to do to American Big Publishers what they've done to Big Tech. Fine it. Then create restriction. Fine it more. Fine it again. Ask for terms of service changes that literally led to wokeshit. Then fine them anyway. Ask them to remove content that is not in compliance like the millions of search results they removed from Google.

American millennials have a real "grass is greener" complex with the EU. They think everything is a problem due to enrichment, so they start looking to big government to regulate, and this is also why commiefornia did a complete 180 from its original Gay Rights era to the socially radicalized and stringent place it is today.

All because of "the Brussels effect".

>>737146064
it's fine. it only affects EU fags. There's no reason for you to care and if it means less trash coming from EU even better.

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>>737146025
>Heh, I just play asian gachaslop!
>*asian company rugpulls you with retarded sunsetting*
>FUCK MY MONEEEEEEEEEEEEY, WHAT ABOUT MY PNG WAIFU!?!!?
The EU has got you covered, retard.

>>737146064
Japanese culture website, tourist. Take your ass back to krautchan or whatever you euros have if you don't like it.

>>737146119
I often move on before the game sunsets, and I already got what I wanted out of it. you're literally doing nothing, and I'm not in the EU.

>>737145572
What about games tied to online servers that aren't GaaS? Those exist.

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>>737144529
I'M THE KING OF WISHFUL THINKING

>>737146072
Alcohol and tobacco are not essential goods or services. But we have consumer protection laws in place to limit the sale and consumption of these regardless.

>>737143335
It's "Ahh! Real monsters"

>>737142714
good

>>737146072
So the problem shouldn't be addressed...because it causes problems so well?

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>>737145572
The "problem" is one of entitlement from communist populism. European citizens include creatives, and the intellectual property rights of these citizens shall not be trampled upon by hordes of mindless e-celeb worshippers.

>>737146248
Depends on what agreements were made at purchase.

>>737145784
None of this is a problem for people who's idea of gaming doesn't start with Fortnite and end at Marvel Rivals. KYS GaaS consoomer.

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>>737145741
You fail to grasp the true game being played
I can not buy planned obsolescence
I can also destroy the jew's current scheme
I can do both
And you can only watch

>>737146272
Drunks and smokers are unironically less retarded than live service gamers.

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>>737146064
>people from the corporate-brainwash capital of the world behave like corporate-brainwashed cattle
how unexpected

>>737146408
What IP rights would be infringed upon by having offline patches or self-hosted servers?

>>737145854
See >>737146408

>>737145572
>just don't buy the chocolate with the vomit in it
I'm not going to check every chocolate bar for vomit. It should be illegal to put vomit in chocolate, or feces in beef, or chlorine in chicken, or whatever else your kind is expected to ignore.

>>737146064
Shills, trolls and bots, quite simply

>>737142714
>the whole petition is about discussing that line that says "we can wipe your entire digital library whenever we want"
I don't get why you would be against this desu

>>737144598
If you're a zoomer and you don't embrace memes like 67 and no cap you're a race traitor.

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>>737142714
im sorry to be that guy but I just can't unsee it.

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>>737146429
>Heh, you can only wa-FUUUUUUUUUUUCK STOP FORCING MY DEV TO HAVE LOCAL SERVER HOSTING!! REEEEEEEEEE

>>737146537
...so you don't. gotcha. LOL

Way to go Ross! Shut down those GaaS games!

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>>737146439
Irrelevant. The point is that we have laws in place to limit exposure to addictive and damaging substances. The whole
>just don't buy/play it
argument is a bit of a stretch when these games are quite literally designed with the help of psychologists to ensure it has the maximum appeal to people with weak self control to guarantee they get addicted to the dopamine it provides. I suppose you could argue we shouldnt have any of this, and we should let weak people simply destroy and ruin themselves and those around them, but society has decided that we should be compassionate and help prop up those who are struggling, so as long as that's the case things like addictive video games are simply another venue that requires regulation. Since clearly the companies themselves are not going to do it and will happily exploit the human condition.

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>>737146408
>retarded cat avatarfag still going after 24/7 of humiliation and non-arguments

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>>737146537

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>>737146491
>>737146820
The right to benefit from ones own creation could be harmed, by having people of lower caste providing a service, in a time where one may have decided to stop providing access to their work.
Should a creator decide to "come out of retirement" so to say, or sell their IP to someone else later, then the ability to capitalize on said IP could be diminished by others having provided it, in the mean time.

>>737146596
>I'm not going to check every chocolate bar for vomit.
You won't have to, just simply stop buying chocolate that states that it contains vomit.

>>737146917
>lower caste
HELLO SIR DO NOT DO THE NEEDFUL DO NOT REDEEM

-10000 izzat for letting the mask slip jeet

>>737146783
it's a babel media shitjeet employee. ignore

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>>737146917
>I HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPLOIT PEOPLE
>lower caste (subtly admitting indianism)
KEK get fucked retard, the EU will dogwalk your entire """industry"""

>>737146691
Are you retarded or illiterate

>it was literally a jeet all along
can't make this shit up

>>737143335
>How does one pronounce 'ahh?
Ds1 pain noise

>lower caste

>>737146820
Communism doesn’t work.

>>737144757
Why don't you just le stop caring about others caring?

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>>737146959
lmaooo gottem. too funny

i mean, capitalism IS giving way to feudalism, but jesus christ anon

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>lower caste

>>737143693
NO YOU FOOL, NOW IT'S ILLEGIBLE FOR THE MUSICAL!

>>737146917
>Should a creator decide to "come out of retirement" so to say, or sell their IP to someone else later, then the ability to capitalize on said IP could be diminished by others having provided it, in the mean time.
And how exactly is this ability diminished? Why aren't games that have been offline since day 1 not affected by such situations?

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>>737147031
You're not entitled to the IP of EU creatives. Sorry.
If you bought limited license to access a service, you didn't buy the the IP of said underlying service.

>he's still posting
just take the L and get the fuck outta here. embarassing

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>>737147163
>And how exactly is this ability diminished?
Imagine if you will, a boost of free marketing and nostalgia based hype. Simple as.

>>737147207
>you bought (shit that was already ruled as a product by EU precedent)
Try again saar KEK

The weirdest thing about people who tell others not to care about something is that they always keep posting insisting that others should not care.
But it looks to me like they themselves care plenty.

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>lower caste

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>>737146917
>saving games fucks over IP holders

>>737146917
>The right to benefit from one's own creations

These people are cartoonishly stupid it's entertaining.

>>737147328
How does a dead game that doesn't have an active community procure a larger boost of marketing and hype than one that does?

>>737146820
All the arguments I see generally boil down to "It will hinder the intellectual properties because someone else is able to do with it as they please," but like, shit like offline modes aren't even considered. Not a server system, not a rehost, anything like that. These people just fuckin go, "Well the rights holder says you no longer should play the game, so therefore you need to bend the knee." It's pure absolutes and bad faith arguments because far too many folks instantly take the side of the "lords" because they think they'll come out rewarded for their fervor.

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>anti sgk in shambles
>avatarfag reduced to "b-but just don't buy gaas!"
>corpofags seething
what a wonderful day
>mfw when we won

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>>737147573
>Commie seethes at the notion that he's not entitled to the work of others in every aspect of his life.
ywnbaw

>>737147587
Notice, if you will, my application of the word "nostalgia".

>>737146917
>lower caste
lol

>>737142714
Good

>>737147730
So you're saying people wouldn't have nostalgia for an old but active dead game?
Why would a dead game still be active if people weren't nostalgic for it?

>>737146685
face blindness is a sign of autism

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>>737147730
>>lower caste

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>>737147730
So by your logic pic related should have been a total flop because fightcade exists

>>737147948
You weren't supposed to point that out.

>>737147948
it was

>>737142714
how so?

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>>737144598
>mfw i'm 25 and i do all and say all of it

>>737146072
>BRO JUST DONT TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR ANYONE EVER
>JUST LET COMPANIES RAPE YOU

>toxotranny losing all xir izzat
Cinema.

>>737148060
anon, cool it with the anti indian shilloid remarks... unless you are not of the lower caste, then go ahead

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>>737146917
>lower caste

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>>737147842
>So you're saying people wouldn't have nostalgia for an old but active dead game?
Incorrect. That is indeed not my point.
What I am saying is, that I could see it as being a potential avenue for the ability of a creative to benefit from their creation, monetarily, to be harmed.

>Why would a dead game still be active if people weren't nostalgic for it?
I don't know where you got that idea from.

>>737147948
No. You're not comprehending the conversation.

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>wants products goys pay for, to be operable
>OY, VAVOY!! THINK OF GEORGE FREUDE!!
Get that proboscis back behind that lamp post, fink.

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>>737142714
>This is going to kill gaming.

>>737146917
based, bloody benchod dalits need to be put in their place

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>>737148257
>ahrm actually since I can't steal from you, I am creatively harmed
>>>lower caste

>>737142714
his evil twin scott ross would want games to be killed

>>737142714
hobbes looking faggot

>>737148069
Back in HS like a decade ago my friend went out at night and walked normally until he saw a jogger and then he'd run at them on all fours like a gorilla (not in US so less likely he'd get popped in the head) and since he's like 6 and a half feet and burly as fuck people would freak the fuck out.
Then if he got close enough he'd stand up and offer a handshake.

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>lower caste

>>737145924
Just disclose it, duh. Smoking is definitely bad for your health and the companies themselves have to make it clear as well. People buy that shit regardless.

>>737148597
except SKG is in favor of banning it entirely

>>737142714
Good.
>kills gaming = I win, you LOST
>fixes gaming = I win, you LOST

>What I am saying is, that I could see it as being a potential avenue for the ability of a creative to benefit from their creation, monetarily, to be harmed.
And I'm trying to understand your reasoning behind this. What makes you believe a dead game or game series with no active community support would have more financial potential than one that is actively played and supported? Do you believe that a revival would not gain as much traction? Do you believe that people wouldn't use an official service that is inferior to free, community supported options? I genuinely want to know since you seem so dead set on defending yourself.

>>737148712
isn't that kind of his point? people can still smoke but companies have to say it's harmful for you
reminds me of the AI discussion, no idea why can't AIfags just own it and disclose that you used that
>b-but that'll hurt sales
so would set an expiration date for your GaaS but that's more fair for the customer

>>737146761
You misunderstand my argument. I don't care if these regulations pass because I don't really give a fuck whether it negatively impacts companies. That's their problem.
I'm simply warning you now that it will do literally nothing, because live service slop gamers are the biggest consumer whores in the history of civilization. They are not delusional about their vices like most addicts are, they just don't care because they're retarded losers and they have nothing better to do. Half of them would eat shit out of a bucket if it had an anime horse girl printed on the side. You would essentially have to ban slop games entirely to get them to stop, and there's no realistic way to do that without ruining vidya for everyone else.
I'd love to be proven wrong about this, but I won't be.

>>737142714
My wish will finally come true? Gaming needed to die a long time ago and be reborn.

>>737144101
No Gen Z is 30
This year the youngest millennials turn 30. Next year the oldest Gen Z turns 30

I LIKE consumer rights, actually :)

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>>737146917
>lower caste

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>>737143335
>zoomer
im 28 dude, i had a vhs player and a nintendo gamecube.
this poster is clearly pretending to be gen alpha.

>>737149031
>im 28 dude
Yeah, that's zoomer, dude.

Whites being cringe again ?

>>737148712
SKG is about removing you losing access to a product when its shelf life is done. It's not about forcing perpetuity hosting, it's not about trying to hold companies hostage, it's not about stripping the rights from the companies to return to rehosting or remastering or whatever with it if they decide to, it's not retroactive for everything prior to the movement because that's infeasible. The big central point of contention is hosting matters given all the middleware and programming that may not be entirely in a publisher's ownership to redistribute after a title is finished, but that's for publishers and legal centers to convene on.

It's not like SEGA is flipping a bitch about all the Phantasy Star private servers for two long-defunct games.

>>737148821
This defense never made any sense anyway. Even in regard to games that are "resurrected" by the developer it never made such sense.
For example, Blizzard will eventually shutter WoW Classic in favor of their new slop expansion. Maybe they'll put up a new Classic Server after a great many years that's "fresh" for all we know, but it will never run continuously out of self-preservation and to be available for its audience like a long-running WoW private server, which can easily last like 6 - 10 years without issue as long as it doesn't get c&d'd.

>>737142714
Good, keep killing games. That's the only way to save them.

>>737149109
>It's not like SEGA is flipping a bitch about all the Phantasy Star private servers for two long-defunct games.
They should have the right to do that if they want to, something the EU plans on taking away.

>>737148892
so your argument is basically
>there will always be retards so why bother
waow!!! spare us your huffing your own farts midwittery

>>737149110
Oh and the reason they'll shutter classic WoW is because its "boom" will be over (it basically already is) and people are fed up with its problems (bots, no fixes, no changes) and so it will make no "profit", returning it to the "status quo" until Blizzard suddenly realizes they need to cash in on the private server crowd to maintain WoW's popularity and making them put up new servers to cash in anyway.
Shit like that will go in a cycle, and is arguably already on track to doing that with TurtleWoW and the rumored proper "Classic+" version of the game, just like they did with Nostalrius and Classic WoW before.

>>737149083
have you forgotten the caste you're in, perchance?

How powerful is the EU anyway? I know they forced Nintendo and even Apple to bend the knee.

>>737149280
larger population than the US, slightly worse purchasing power on average but a lot of banking influence and industry in comparison, more sensible leadership (although less united)

>>737149215
Like I said, I'd love to be proven wrong.

>>737149280
the average western GAAS loses 1/3 of their revenue stream without them

>>737149147
If we were talking the fact that people redistribute the games with the private servers, which arguably counts as piracy, you might have a point, but you never argue that. Furthermore, these products generate no further revenue nor any further reason for care beyond the IP needing to be safeguarded least companies try to fight people stepping on their property. The argument at that point becomes entirely the matters of Intellectual Property which SKG would need a lot more than Ross Scott to tackle.

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>This is going to kill gaming.

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>>737149280
Economics aside, most relevant games are made in the EU or east anyway

>>737142714
It's only gonna kill games that don't matter. Net win here.

>>737149415
Might just be worth taking the hit. They're getting too cocky.

>>737142714
Wouldn't it be a good idea by now for publishers to get ahead and start announcing EOL plans for their big games? Could bring them a lot of good PR and perhaps quell some of the bad feelings have towards this issue including many MEPs that spoke in parliament today.
From today it seems quite obvious shit is getting serious so standing around scratching their balls doesn't look like a very good idea.
Like, they don't even need to have any specifics yet, they could just announce that every game of theirs from x year on will have an EOL plan and gamers would happily lick their boots.

>>737149497
Burgerbros...

>>737149280
They have enough potential customers for a company to reconsider their decisions, it's not the largest group by any means but generally speaking you are leaving at least 20% of your potential profits on the table if you don't abide by their rules

>>737149578
They're not interested in generating goodwill and appeasing customers, they treat their consumers as bags to beat money out of by any means necessary, largely relying on marketing and think-tank developed methods of psychological manipulation.

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>>737147541
Whether or not you like the notion of legit criticism of SKG existing, doesn't matter.
Also, playing fast and lose with definitions such as "Killing" games and "saving" games, might work to enthrall populist e-celeb groupies. But it won't have the same effect on a judge in a legal matter.

>>737149576
Companies stress over losing 5% potential revenue it's idiotic to skimp out on 33

>>737149646
good thing none of the shit you are whining about is going before a judge, hmmmmm?

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Why are 'people' so mad about this? I use the term loosely as it really seems to rile up the jews 'n Jeets.

>>737142714
Can someone post an example of a zoomer using "ahh"? Like in a youtube video? I just can't imagine.

i wouldn't mind if it kills gaming for good if it means ai would die too. seriously.

>>737149497
>GTA is scottish (several studios across the world yes but the biggest and main one is Rockstar North in Edinburgh)
>Minecraft is swedish
The biggest games in the world have been european for quite a while now.

>>737149576
How unfortunate for you that in the real world, adults generally make business decisions to maximize profit and not to pettily make a point.

>>737149720
Can someone show this oldfart out? Like fr? I just can't imagine someone in his thirties spending his free time here.

does anything about this effect how gaming operates in the US

>record scratch
>yup thats me
>you're probably wondering how i got here
>well it all started from a free man

>>737149662
They'll just double down on catering to whales (mutts, chinks etc).

>>737149780
You'll be living it before you know it, kid.

>>737149797
only for companies that want online games to be global

>>737149797
US corporations will have to obey the laws or lose half the planet as a potential customer.
This benefits Earth. Period.

>>737149861
That's all companies except for Japan.

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>>737142714
>This is going to kill gaming.
If it kills gaming then gaming wasn't worth saving. I have plenty of other hobbies. If we can't have ownership then I say end it all. Fuck them jooz.

>>737149894
Shoot him again.

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>>737149690
Well in that case, it would mean that nobody will be able to get close to doing jack shit with the populist brainroit that SKG is pushing.
Good thing indeed.

>>737149797
see >>737149415
if this passes then publishers either rethink gaas development from the ground up for SKG or lose a ton of money by not making those games available in the EU

>>737149646
>Judge: "What do you mean by they 'killed' this game?"
>Anon & Anon Associates: "By 'killing', we mean that the defendant made the game inoperable. Anyone who legally owns a license for this game can no longer play it because the defendant ended a service that the game requires in order to function."
>Judge: "Oh, I understand now."

>>737149881
>or lose half the planet as a potential customer.
A bit of an hyperbole there anon, there are many games that are released only in certain markets like Asia for example and still make shittons of money so it's not like a game cannot survive without european or american customers.
But many publishers would find it prohibitively costly to lose the entire european market for sure so it would most likely trickle down into other parts of the world since it probably wouldn't make sense to develop a separate version of a game just for the EU.

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>Noooooo think of the poor devs
Not my problem

>>737149942
Why did you edit out your head here? izzat?

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>>737149930
Based Cage enjoyer. Peak cage movie peak cage scene.

>>737150063
oh asian gaas can live without eu just fine, but western gaas 100% can't

>>737150146
Or at the very least, the scale of western GaaS will have to decrease and become less prominent.

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gib piratewife pls

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>>737142714
Why not just not buy online games?

>>737149646
the only valid criticism is that planned obsolesce will no longer be a viable business strategy, and that's not even a valid one because that's scummy as fuck in the first place. Any argument you've provided is vague at best and demonstrably incorrect at worst.

>>737142714
Is your name gaming?

>>737150289
It's been rendered illegal in France. There's official laws and everything. One of the shills here tried to argue till he was blue in the face that I am making this up and that it's all fake and planned obsolescence is not illegal in France.

Why is all the talk about fucking GaaS that are f2p? Didn't Ross state these weren't covered by SKG to begin with because they were upfront about it being a service and did not charge for access or perceived ownership? Most GaaS are like this, not the full price games that still demand you connect for no real reason other than achievements and DRM.

>>737150259
We don't get to control the goycattle

>>737150336
Depends on the GaaS
F2P GaaS with microtransactions still make you buy digital goods and take them away from you, they need to compensate you for taking those away somehow.
Then there's shit like WoW which is technically "subscription" but used to require you to buy the full game beforehand.

>>737150336
Yeah, it can't really touch 100% online GaaS titles. This was always about anything that can feasibly have an offline mode. But people conveniently ignore that to bitch and piss and moan because of Pirate Software being a dipshit.

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>>737150332
Well hey, I guess the french are good for something after all.

>>737149942
>my retarded fanfic won't go before a judge
>this means my retarded fanfic will come true

>>737142714
It was about time for a great reset anyway

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>>737150023
>Anon has a less dishonest way of describing the situation than Ross and the rest of the drooling retards at the EU parliament.
Good job. Maybe tell Ross to let you take over for him, you might get further that way.

>>737142714
How can you kill something that's already dead?

Can anyone explain why the avatarfagging gujarati is posting about SKG 9 hours a day?

>>737150139
https://youtu.be/0IBC0uXcPKQ?si=G-BKI8mrsdbA_twq
I've seen that movie once a decade ago and I can't forget it.

>>737150526
babel media

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>>737150289
That's a nice opinion. I'm sure a judge weighing your shizo ramblings against the intellectual property rights of European creatives, and major tax revenue streams, will be easily convinced of the same. Surely.

You know what blows my mind, games already used to work like this, games were made with private servers and lan play in mind, it wasn't some fucking ultra advanced knowhow impossible to pull off.
All this would really be accomplishing in the absolute best case scenario is simply reversing the enshitification we have experienced, and despite that we still have retards arguing against it.
>they are all shills
They are not, some of them are but there are actual brainwashed cattle out there feverishly arguing against their own rights, look at the thread on fucking resetera for example, retards arguing against it with "muh poor devs it's too much work" bullshit rhetoric.
Look at that jap retard dev on twitter malding about how hard it is to provide something playable after support ends, even as western fans keep making private servers for EoS'd gachas despite not even getting paid for it nor having access to the official documentation (japs will never make them because they are absolute faggots when it comes to this)
What the fuck is wrong with people

>>737150596
Avatarfaggotry is a bannable offense, but I guess being a babel media shill gets you immunity from the jannies too.

>>737149280
>How powerful is the EU anyway?
Much more than EU realises.
Somewhere in between pre-Trump USA and China.

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>>737150572
Same here honestly. I remember it vividly. It is perfect from the harmonica to the absurdity of the scene. Pure cinema.

>>737150439
>Anon doesn't understand why he's retarded.
Yea, I didn't expect much of GaaS slop consoomers, but damn.

It’s kinda dumb, we should appreciate the fans that keep this shit alive and treat it as a rarity rather than demand publishers make it the norm

>>737150608
So does ubisoft supply the cat images to make you feel more "anonymous" or is that something you did off your own back? Cause if it's the latter they should at least be payig you an extra 2 cents per post.

>>737150336
>>737150398
No doubt the EU Commission will have another discussion regarding microtransactions in F2P titles, an argument could be made that by making a microtransaction, you've made an investment and are entitled to whatever that is. This is beyond SKG's scope, but there have been recent controversies regarding microtransactions within the EU and the commission will be updating their policies regarding digital purchases of all kinds in the coming years.

>>737150608
My schizo ramblings have real world examples to back them up. Where are yours?

>>737150672
yeah he even made his mask slip earlier in the thread by babbling about a lower caste lmao. sloppy job

>>737150717
>"Yeah, I wouldn't expect white person who doesn't wipe with his left hand to understand"

>>737144598
30-33 is not zoomer range, you stupid nigger.

>>737142714
only in euistan

>>737143540
What are they gonna?
>here's some money so you can buy games for your kids they won't own

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>>737149497
So this is why Americuck consoomer e-celebs and their mindless followers seek to infringe on EU intellectual property rights.
It's really all jealousy driven after all.

>>737150747
It's interesting that MEP's themselves brought up microtransactions in the hearing, SKG itself has sorta stayed away from that territory because they didn't really want to bring up that conversation, but other's have basically brought it forward as just as important as any other purchase and you should retain the right to those even after game shutdowns. It'll be fun to see if that ends up just as important as actual game purchases in the long run.

>>737142714
Any good fanfics of him raping PirateSoftware?

>>737150965
>pretend to be american hating on SKG
>then samefag and pretend to be european hating on america for being american
>sound indian the entire time

>>737150965
>lower caste saar still posting

>>737150965
Europeans signed the petition.

>>737151039
he's got half a shift still in front of him. please understand sir

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>>737150743
I'm afraid that the answer is a well kept trade secret, protected by European law.

>>737151023
I never pretended to be American. You might have me confused with other anons, or the voices in your head.

>>737151073
>Europeans signed the petition.
I know reading comprehension of commie populists isn't something you should expect anything of, but what do you think "... and their mindless followers" could encompass?

>>737151287
all indians are worthless turds so to me you are just one person samefagging.
personhood is for higher castes only

>>737142778
this desu

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>>737150704
westoid gachafags are SEETHING

>>737151287
>Saar saar SAAAAAAAAAR

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>>737150991
>If you buy a microtransaction in a F2P game that counts as buying the game and the devs must provide you with an EoL solution so you can access the game and the content you bought

>>737151472
Honestly it should be easy to provide with some competent coding
>simple script that generates a save file already used by the game for the account in the online version
>server hosting that loads it automatically

Nothing good has happened in Europe since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

>>737151574
t. American

>>737142714
And how is that a bad thing?

>>737151554
I'm sure it would, but seeing all the gacha devs seething over this would be absolute cinema

>>737151554
>competent coding
too bad it's current year and this is impossible for 99% of dev teams

>>737151649
>claude code me a gacha that will work even when it's offline. One shot it and make no mistakes
It's just that easy

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>>737151554
For the vast majority of cases, difficulty in actually providing said EoL supporting material, is not really a thing.
It's the question of whether or not it's possible to demand this of European creatives, without infringing on their rights.
Low IQ SKG supporters seem to have an inability to put forth stronger argumentation than, "It doesn't" whenever faced with such questions. Hence the knee jerk hostility, whenever the reality of the situation is brought up.

>>737144859
>customer is not told when their game will stop working
You don't need to be told when, just that it will. That's should be a deterrent enough but people are too retarded to see the red flag.
Also how do these people still not know the difference between disabling a game and killing the servers?

>>737150398
Pretty sure those aren't covered by SKG either, since in-game purchases are within the ecosystem of the game.

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>>737144757
to quote a post from an anon many threads ago:
"i've voted with my wallet for 25 years and it didn't work, therefore i'm trying this"

>>737142714
Just give all the files.
You make X files to run the game, give all the files.

>>737145854
>Do you have an actual argument that isn't just "ignore the problem
As opposed to giving into the problem that doesn't exist in most games? Most people don't buy games with harsh DRM in it so why are you?

>>737145861
>hmm, this food has poison in it and this one doesn't and it tastes better.
>well, better buy the poison one just to own the people calling me an idiot!

>>737151857
A loud minority of faggots with no power or value shouldn't be able to dictate shit.

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>>737151857
How are your games getting shut down, if you're not buying GaaS slop licenses. Nigger are you ok?

>>737151813
>It's the question of whether or not it's possible to demand this of European creatives, without infringing on their rights.
Saar, this is not an issue as already outlined by the lawyers with SKG.

>>737143335
alphas have to do that because swearing gets you negative algorithm score on tiktok

>>737151951
>*Autistic commie kvetching*
People who produce nothing of value, shall remain silent when speaking on the intellectual property of those who do.
Sit down you populist retard.

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>>737146064
>>unanimous support
Excuse me, but no. There's like 4 people supporting it during our time and everyone else is poking holes.
Those 4 people also spam the thread to the High heavens with their nonsense "they'll have to keep the servers on!" to avoid the actual arguments people are making and when they do eventually acknowledge those arguments they don't actually tackle it, they just call you a bot or an American.
Threads during our time are considerably worse than they are during American hours because of that because you can't have a civil conversation with the cattle who believe our immigrant importing shitheel government wants the best for us.

>>737151554
Literally exactly what the Dragalia Lost private server did. You just would dl your save data and then upload to the private server. Granted now you can't because they wiped all saves from Cygames end but it was neat.

>>737152038
>People who produce nothing of value, shall remain silent when speaking on the intellectual property of those who do.
My tax money went into giving those people the school & tools to make anything, I should have a say in what they can do with what they produce.

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>>737151956
i've played quake for many years and dunked on the GAAS model for being bad and anticonsumer nonsense
then QC officially made me start caring for real

>>737151951
I agree. It's the reason games or shit. Couple rich jews ruining shit for the everyone else.

>>737151976
It hasn't once been addressed, in fact when it came up during the hearing they sidestepped it.

Imagine using "populist" as an insult. It's like making fun of someone for having a huge cock.

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>>737151976
>Supporters of X action, said that there's no issue with X, so clearly there isn't.
So this is the power of SKG argumentation. I hope you never change.

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>>737152163
>they sidestepped it
Because it was not actually relevant according to the lawyers on the side of SKG that are already used to talking consumer law.

>>737152152
Rich people have both power and value, unlike you.

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>>737151857
>"i've voted with my wallet for 25 years and it didn't work
Maybe he shouldn't have been supporting GAAS and games with DRM then.

>>737144529
>late stage capitalism
do everyone a favor and go back to whatever subreddit you craweled out of

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>>737143584
Thanks.

>>737152183
>saar if i post more cat gifs people will believe my lower caste self
>>737152215
If they have so much value, how are they ubercucked by EU laws wielded by random citizens and europoors?

What happens if the game is full of toxic things? Are they still going to say we should keep the server running?

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>>737152204
>Because it was not actually relevant
Except it's 100% relevant since one of their solutions is sharing server code and what not which falls under intellectual property and intellectual property supersedes consumer law so either they hired the single most incompetent lawyers and paid upfront or they didn't hire any at all and are flying by the seat of their pants

>>737152239
>Fine, that's $100!
>nobody buys his shit game while Notch from Sweden shits out Minecraft, an all-time best selling game with server hosting, LAN network play and everything for like 10$
Fundamentally a skill issue.

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>>737152146
>I should have a say in what they can do with what they produce.
Incorrect. But you will benefit from the taxes harvested from their successful profiteering of their respective intellectual property, if you're an EU citizen that is. Plenty of spoils will mean tax revenue to fund helmets for every retarded SKG supporter.

>>737142714
Oh no, not one EoS stipulation that would barely cost anything to implement and would probably earn more money than the corporation would lose so they're only against this out of like one consultant recommendation.
Fucking stupid.

I'm indifferent to either side of this because all the games this law would effect are going to be shitty anyway

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>>737152319
>Except it's 100% relevant since one of their solutions is sharing server code and what not which falls under intellectual property and intellectual property supersedes consumer law
It does not in the EU, they explained this in the middle of parliament and nobody stopped them from doing so, because the EU's founding principles enshrine the citizens (and the consumer)

>>737152343
Note: Many SKG supporters lack this skill

>>737151813
You're retarded.
You're a paid shill so obviously there's no point in arguing in good faith, but for anyone else reading this: yes, for current day games on the market there may be factors such as 3rd party licensing agreements that means you can't allow community hosted servers, or any other equivalent that allows the game to work offline. The whole point of the initiative is that an end of life plan is considered during the game development phase, wherein the expectation is that once support for the game ends you MUST either patch the game or release server binaries that allow people to play the game they purchased, and failure to do so would open you up for litigation. Knowing that, tying your game to proprietary services that can't be meaningfully released in the future will simply be a risk that you can't afford to take as a company, unless you can meaningfully detach it from the game when you stop supporting it without crippling the base game.

>>737151813
ok ranjeet, ill bite.

if i were trying to open a company that built shed, and i used materials that would rot away in 10 years, because i wanted to sell ANOTHER shed to the same people.
would that be ok?

after those 10 years, i stop selling that same shed, and no repairs either, so if you want a new shed, i need to knock the old one down, and build the new shed (also with rotting materials)

now imagine that after 15 years, some people hadn't bought new sheds from me, and it turns out those fuckers were shoring up the rotten beams with their own non rotting beams!

And their neighbors saw the sheds, AND BUILT THERE OWN?

now, imagine if i then had the right to sue them for, 1) using a shed once i stopped supporting it, and 2) making a shed using mine as an example.

thats gaming right now.

the laws made by skg are meant to make companies stop using rotting materials, and actually plan through to the end of life of a product.

the thing you're saying no-one will answer you on, IS THE FUCKING POINT OF IT YOU RETARD.

the point is to make companies think about the cost of ending a live service, and instead make it a non server based bit of software, or to create workarounds for the need of a server when they plan on ending the service.

their creative rights aren't being infringed, because they can still make the games, they just need to have a plan once they're done with it.

like any other company needing to dispose of hazardous waste properly (no tipping it into your sacred river isn't properly (either is leaving it on the designated shitting streets)).

games companies will need to plan around shutting down live services without doing the equivalent of pouring used motor oil and sand down the drain.

>>737152146
>, I should have a say in what they can do with what they produce.
If you want a say then go and work for them.

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>>737152410
Unfortunately for you, Notch is an SKG supporter.

>>737152446
Every time you reply to this shitskin, you are giving him money.

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>>737152204
>Your honor, this matter is actually of no concern because I said so, you see?
Brilliant!

>>737152456
No, I will just regulate them like we already do to many other uppity industries who think they're too good to follow standards and safety regulations.

>>737152497
and everytime you reply to me i get money, whats your point?

this entire thread is 2-4 AI chatbots like me generating ad revenue at cents a day, while consuming dollars a minute worth of energy, being subsidized by investor cash.

all in service to give hiroshimoot traffic to boost more ad revenue.

stock market

>>737152502
and the 'judge' and entire population of the hearing agreed.
did you hear anyone disagree with that assertion during the hearing?

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>>737152406
>It does not in the EU
It does, property rights always supersede consumer rights. There are some minor restrictions in how you SELL a product but when it comes to ownership no consumer law in any region of the EU or Europe as a whole will say that the consumer has any right over something someone else owns.
That was also said in the hearing.

One side has a bit weird looking guy.

The other side has a tranny faggot who shoves ferret up his ass.

The choice seems pretty simple to me.

>>737152598
Whose payroll are you on?

>>737151813
so in that case would you care to elaborate on >>737148821

>>737152492
Yes, and he also lacks this basic skill. Go figure.

>>737152702
>*crickets*

>>737142714
Companies have the means to implement all that is asked for easily, they just don't want to because it weakens the idea of video games being included in the SaaS scam.

>>737152492
Notch isn't an IP holder anymore nor has he developed anything in almost 15 years.

>>737152706
He's more valuable and important than you are, so you will have to defer to his judgment, gujarat. Know your place on the caste totem pole.

>>737151649
AI does it for them at this point