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Why wasn't Phantasy Star as popular as Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy?
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sega spergs were basically the ball and gun gamers of that era.
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>>737149842
No one played it comparatively
master system sold like ass except in brazil and they dont care for rpgs back then
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>>737150024
Quite frankly it’s a miracle PS 2-4, Online and all the spin-offs were even made.

I’m currently developing a RPG meant to serve as a spiritual successor to the OG games (1-4), so seeing this thread was a nice surprise.
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>>737149842
because they didn't make a 5 and pivoted to an MMO-lite. Granted, that game was a big success and very good, so it's no shock they stuck with it and never went back to the JRPGs.
People of the time did like the games, though.
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>>737150364
>miracle
Sega tried to turn it into their Dragon Quest and it helps most of the games are really good even if obscure, sadly it never got huge like Final fantasy that would have been fun
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>>737149842
1 is not very good and the chick is annoying but it's still a better game than FF1. I am shocked that FF made it to 3 when it started getting better considering how shit the first two games are
>t. I was there
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>>737150421
I think Shining Force fading away was more tragic. It is way better than Fire Emblem in both gameplay and story (sorry Kaga)
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>>737150421
I always thought SEGA was trying to make it their Final Fantasy, hence “Phantasy” and the hard lean into MMO stuff with the Online games.
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Phantasy Star 4 was good but no one who likes RPGs are going to by a Genesis just for one game. The only people who bought a Genesis were for sportsball and Mortal Kombat.
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>>737150604
Play the Sega Ages Switch version. It has QoL stuff that makes it more palatable.
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>>737149842
Because it was on the Master System and not the NES.
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>>737150414
>Challenge: Beginner
Based. I always thought it was easy yet I see modern retards claim it's too fucking hard.
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>>737150820
I think Gay Pros rated post JRPGs low in difficulty. Modern retards are literally just that bad at vidya. All PS4 needs you to do is macro abilities in order. That's it.
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>>737150975
most*
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IT'S CALLED STARSHIP EARTH
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I like the Phantasy Star science fantasy aesthetic. Sega really needs to revive this series and Shining Force.
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>>737149842
It has no story, the combat isn't fun, and the game is tedious. The only thing it has going for it is the very minimal space elements and the first person dungeon segments.
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>>737151358
>It has no story
if you're gay and retarded on your very first point then there is no need to read the rest
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>>737151358
>t. filtered by Owl Bears
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>>737149842
Sega. That's basically it.
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>>737150421
Genesis shining wasn't that bad of a substitute for it desu.
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>>737149842
I wouldn't mind a HD remake of Phantasy Star. Played the first one and it was good
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>>737151310
The character designs are one of the best things about it. Peak 90's anime with a unique touch to it
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>>737154113
I think that’s been done, but all the sprites got replaced with WoW 3 Reforged-esque soulless updated interpretations.
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>>737154914
you're right I just looked it up. Though it was only released in Japan
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>>737149842
Your pic literally tells you why. Who in the fuck owned a Master System? Now who owned an NES? Probably isn't easy to sell people on your hip new IP when everybody and their dog is focused on your competition. That was honestly SEGA's biggest problem. They made good games, but the company itself was always lagging behind Nintendo and eventually Sony to gain people's attention. The Mega Drive/Genesis was their big break then it all went downhill with the Saturn.
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>>737149842
Should I play the ps2 remake? I just love that the pso guy did cover art for it because it's one of my favourite character design/styles in all of videogames.
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>>737150820
Because people don't actually play the games they post about and they heard PSII's a constant kick in the dick and assumed the rest of the series was the same.
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>>737150414
I have that issue. GamePro always gave Genesis games lower scores. It's laughable they gave the graphics and sound such weak scores though.
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>>737154914
Is not that bad, but personally I think the real deal breaker is that the remake simplifies the mapping too much. Phantasy Star 1 is legit the sweet spot of allowing the player to get lost and enjoy it but without pulling non-euclidean Wizardry levels of bullshit
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>>737155229
Yes, if you like the art and want some QoL go for it
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>>737149842
Because no one had a Master System/Mark III
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My older brother loved it, but he had to draw out huge grid maps for the dungeons. I think that would filter a lot of people, even back then.
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>>737155854
>I think that would filter a lot of people, even back then.
That was literally the standard for RPGs back then.
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>>737155854
Anon, Phantasy Star mapping was EASY (except for a couple of things at the end of the game). Compare with Wizardry
>Dark zones
>Teleporters
>Rotators
>Fake walls and hidden doors
>Pits and mines
>One way doors
>Chests with traps, including random teleporters
>Your only in-game tool to know where you are is fucking Dumapic, which only tells your coordinates and where are you facing.
And around the time we're talking Wizardry IV was soon to be released, which included even more bullshit
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>>737156595
Hearing all the stories of Wizardry IV, you have to be a sadist to play it.
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>>737149842
Because they werent as good, with the exception of Phantasy Start 4 which is one up there as one of the most perfect JRPGs ever created IMO.
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>>737156759
At least is an amazing read
https://lparchive.org/Wizardry-IV/
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Phantasy Star V when
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>>737156836
Im reading it. I would play an easier version of this game. I can also see so much of Shin Megami Tensei in the game mechanics.
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>>737157257
It has an easier versión, the PS1 one and don't know if is fully translated but some months/a year ago people finally translated the Saturn version of Wizardry VI, so there's hope to see the not so bullshit edition of Wizardry IV in english

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