>>737151451
it's liner shit ano

>>737151451
A perfect end to the trilogy Demon's Souls started.

>>737151451
I like it. It's still my least favorite. I still like it though.

>>737151582
that alone makes it better than elden ring

>>737151451
its OK. Im playing it now.
Things i like
>smithing stones drop like crazy, being guaranteed drops off of some respawnable enemies, so i can experiment more freely without grinding as much.
>level design is decent
>some of the bosses are cool.
>nice variety of spells
Things I dont like
>lack of poise, (i know I know, pvp fags hate poise)
>lock on has a super short range (wtf, i barely ever use lock on and mostly use it for using ranged attacks but its so short in 3?)
>some spammy enemies
>progress to far and break quests randomly, worse than Elden Ring in that regard.
>some "secrets" are just annoying, like I can see an item on a ledge and i know I have to climb a ladder then jump over a thing and walk along the ramp because i can clearly see thats what you have to do I dont feel clever or perceptive for getting the item it feels like the game just added a chore, in some cases.

I don't know what I'm doing buildwise (I forgot how hollowshit works) and enemies enemies being basically unstaggerable, unlike ER, is shit, but it's playable. I'd never go back tho. ER and beyond for life.

>>737152094
>if i have to set my own goals and figure things out for myself its bad!
you arent beating the NPC allegations.

Start was great but by the end everything just felt so samey; same boss designs, same enemy designs, nothing really stood out as unique. I remember Lothric Castle, the poison swamp, the cave, and the snow areas which I liked, but I could draw a map of Dark Souls 1/2/Bloodborne with no reference and probably get everything right while I couldn't possibly do the same for 3

If Dark Souls is Ocarina of Time and Dark Souls II is Wind Waker, Dark Souls III is Twilight Princess. Personally, I like Twilight Princess.

>>737152306
>Elden Ring
>set your own goals

Such as? Riding your magic horse through empty fields killing the same wolves and ghouls for 150 hours? Getting into the same copy pasted Oblivion-style dungeons?
>figure things out for myself
ER has the most straightforward questlines in all of Souls games. You have to be a massive retard to miss any of them

>>737152094
Fuck you.

>>737151451
i played ds3 when it came out and i didn't understand. i just got my head caved in over and over on the high wall of lothric. i put it down without ever making it to vordt. then after elden ring i came back and really enjoyed it. i think the best place was probably around cathedral of the deep because of how well it linked back into itself.
ds3 good.

>>737152440
t- wiki gamer

>>737151451
Better than Elden Ring because it's just the fun part (dungeons) without having to mindlessly cross vast distances between them.
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>>737152443
Wow you're really butthurt.

I have played both recently and it holds well. Basically this last months soulslop is almost only games I have been playing and I have never played any of them before.
Here is my rank on all soulslop I have played from top to down
Elden Ring (Kino)
DS3 (Kino)
Wuchang (Thanks anon on /v/ for recommending it to me. annoyances like only 4 tools and magic/feathering should work with more weapons imo)
Lords Of Fallen 2.5 (only umbral mechanic sucked)
Lies Of P (It was good but atmosphere with Pinocchio shit ruined it a bit wish it had a more of a dark setting)
Wukong not soulslop but close enough ( A lot of weird shit in it both good and bad)
DS2 (yeah its not that bad with 2 mods that fixes controls + graphics)
BloodBorne (Yeah its okay but dont understand why ppl love it so much the last boss was fucking hard, fuck him and fuck that you cant respec character, so I had to install cheatengine for that
DS1 (old jank maybe I should have checked NexusMods and it would have fixed it, but back in time it was prob Kino)

--not good ones
Khazan (overrated Soulless shit)
Mortal Shell played because second looks amazing, it was short and kinda bad
Bleak Faith

>when I first played it
Hated that it was slower than Bloodborne. Fuck the linearity. Fuck redniggers that destroyed the balance for PvERs. Fuck no poise. Fuck poison swamps. Fuck samey magic. Fuck covenenat item drop rates. Fuck demon ruins. Fuck harald knights Rest is fine.
>now
Fuck no poise. Fuck linearity.

>>737152129
>smithing stone
holy newfag

>>737152945
>no love for BB
>hating on Khazan and Mortal Shell
If I saw you I would legit throw a fucking brick at you.

>>737153175
He's right about mortal shell though, it was shit

>>737153304
Why?

It's the least remarkable of the Dark Souls trilogy.
1 does everithing right and is only held back by being first and not having the various incremental improvements in gameplay and QoL.
2 tries to be very different, but is also very flawed
3 is just there, a shadow of 1 without the uniqueness of 2, but the shadow of titan still causes awe, it's got the bloodline

Honestly who cares if the areas aren't interconnected? As long as you can explore inside the area, that's all that matters. 1 > 3 > ER > 2. ER's legacy dungeons are okay, but everything else is a chore.

>>737153398
Low quality and boring

>>737153175
BB was fine no hate for it, it was still good game

Mortal Shell is not that bad for a 3 man devs and the atmosphere in it was really nice! But we are being fair here and comparing it with big boys, the last huge map wasnt that well executed and game was kinda short. If we dont compare with others its still okay and upcoming Mortal Shell 2 looks amazing

Khazan I cant defend I am sorry you will have to fight me over it, the only good thing with khazan was the skills the rest sucked so much. Side quests reused bosses and i think other places reused bosses and atmosphere in game sucked so much I just couldn't feel it, everything from locations to NPCs was uninteresting to me.
Lies of P had similar problem but at least it had some comfy vibes and some soul poured into it and interesting NPCs

>>737153441
nah 3 is better than 2

Best game in the trilogy

the series ended on a high note at least after the abortion that was 2

>>737153576
True true, only bitches hate that DS triple

>>737151451
Has the most fast paced and fun combat of any souls game with some of the very best bosses too. Everything else sucks though, I did not like the level designs and even thinking back to it about 90% of the game was just catacombs or swamps.

>>737153513
>low quality
Well it was an indie game. Debatable
>boring
>there's no fishing gallery shooting horseshoe throwing lookatthatmountainyoucanclimbit 40 minute custscene
Nah fuck you.

I like it less and less with time, already thought it was weak on release. Still better than Elden Nig.

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>>737151451
Fun game. Its just a short high octane jaunt when compared to the rest.
DLC on the otherhand is my kryptonite. Ive have soloed every boss in Souls, every fucking boss! I cant beat anyone in the DLC besides the grave warden. I do not understand it at all.
Also Siegward of Catarina is the absolute GoaT from from.

>>737153546
>last huge map wasnt that well executed and game was kinda short.
True
>If we dont compare with others its still okay
Does its own thing well imo, comparison is not even a thing for me. Fuck the parry flash forever though.
>Mortal Shell 2 looks amazing
Damn right
>Khazan I cant defend I am sorry you will have to fight me over it, the only good thing with khazan was the skills the rest sucked so much.
Loot? Loot. Bosses are spongy
>atmosphere in game sucked
Oh yeah we fighting, but gentlemanlike.
>Lies of P had similar problem but at least it had some comfy vibes and some soul poured into it and interesting NPCs
Haven't played yet

>>737153796
man it's just a shit game, don't know what to say

>>737152435
Why you have to do 2 dirty like that.

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My favorite souls game. Enjoyed it more than Elden Ring.

>>737153004
Fuck harald knights still. FOUR fire dagger hornet ring ripostes!?

>>737154118
Which souls and soukslikes do you like best? What are your favorite ganes outside of souls?

>>737152435
>If Dark Souls is Best Zelda and Dark Souls II is the last good 3d zelda, Dark Souls III is liquid shit. Personally, I like liquid shit.
huh?

>>737153175
>Mortal Shell
It's a dumpster. No idea how they scrapped enough $$$ for a sequel. Prolly some gov gibs.

>>737154174
I get it. I rank it middle and Elden Ring top but I get it. Other entries are an experience well DS3 is a game. Go out, have fun.

>>737154285
I don't like mortal shell

>>737154296
Really? WW over TP huh. TP is mid at best but WW?

It's the only great Dark Souls game and the last great Fromslop game. Only flaw is the lack of a Velka bossfight.

>>737154107
Yeah you see good that we agree, you can check my list i played them all recently and ask away if you are interested in any game.

What loot? The whole loot mechanism in Khazan felt like AC creed shit. I played only Spear and there was like 2 good sets and one farming set and thats it, the only time i started crafting was in the end because you outleveled you damn gear pretty fast.Well you will like Lies Of P way more or I hope so, because it had way more memorable bosses NPCs and gear.

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>>737154314
I also rank Dark Souls 2 above Elden Ring.
The open world is slop.

what do you mean ten years ago It just came out and I was gonna get around to playing it one d-

fuck

>>737154452
Loot system sucks. It's like Nioh's.

>>737154368
Exploring in WW was enjoyable. One of my favourite parts in zelda games is when you need to find something with minimal clues so you just take a step back and go explore at random.

>>737152945
Wuchang really 3rd? Also did they really go bankrupt?
You dont have lords of the fallen on here, not sure if thats a mistake. If I hated 1 would I like 2.

>>737154496
>.webm
amazing

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>>737154496
DS2 is the best in the trilogy. Its unlimited imagination combined with the wisdom of Neitzchie.
I still rank it below ER and BB though.
Also that gif is fucking awesome.

>>737154937
>>737154496
I like DS2 the best because of the atmosphere and the semi-linear grand adventure gameplay. ER is too big and overwhelming, it's not as comfy as DS2
Also DS2 barely feels like a Souls game at times which makes it even more unique

>>737154643
You know what, I retract my incredulity. Im not a fan of WW but it does have the most soul. I love DS2 but its definitely got its gameplay flaws, just so much soul. You were right. I kneel!

Why does nobody ever talk about Sekiro?

>>737154663
Yeah I heard they had some issues with Wuchang asked AI and got this "Team Dissolution: Reports indicate the core development team at Leenzee Games has been dissolved after staff refused to transition to an outsourced support role"
Such a shame the game was pretty good the way maps connected.
Bosses and enemies were good and of great variety
Side Content was pretty good although its easy to miss, so you kinda need guides and even with that i missed 2 bosses.
Loot with enough variety for different builds
Skill system was pretty decent also with free respec

About Lords Of Fallen as I know there is an early version but its shit and I never played it, then they released new version of Lords Of Fallen and it have had several major patches and currently have patch called 2.5 and that's the one I played and I've had fun with it.

>>737155130
Too hard (for /v/). No build variety.

3 is when From went all in on the "Enemy has a 3 minute long seizure during which you can't attack, has perfect tracking, and reads inputs so the seizure is extended with an animation cancel if you try to attack when it ends" that plagued Elden Ring.

>>737155239
Is it really considered harder than the rest?

>>737151691
Wut?

>>737155349
It's the only one where the gitgud meme actually applies because of its anti-grind anti-cheese design

>>737155130
too different to be a soulslike

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>>737155321
Use a shield and pyromancy, thats what i did. I played souls since ds1 and was there for the "gatekeeping" where we made fun of people for using shields and called spells easy mode. I feel like that kinda made sense when the bosses were super easy just dodging and rolling, but its not fun to "learn" attack timings through trial and error of perfect rolling when enemies are spamming attacks like in 3. I beat pontif dude by using magic shield to block all his damage then a big AoE spell to kill his clone on spawn. Felt super satisfying, that caster bitch who spams spells on you then teleports away with a big 'fuck you' aoe that specifically fucks over melee was also super easy to deal with by chucking a few fireballs at her. Dont feel like fighting a knight? throw some fire at it. Are dogs being super annoying? just hold up a shield and hit them when they recoil. Not sure the timing of that attack? just hold up a shield.

I would've enjoyed it better if it had released as Dark Souls 2, but by the time I played it (last year), I was already tired of the genre.

>>737151451
It's the worst Souls game honestly

>>737155349
Elden Ring, objectively the most accomodating of the series, was filtering tards on here North South East West and Center. What do you think a game like Sekiro woukd do to those pinkies? Hahahaha.

Dark souls 3 made me very certain about dark souls 1 being the best souls game

>>737155846
That's not two.

>>737155906
I'd say ER is harder than 2 at least, probably 1 too, but I'd have to play it again to be sure.

>>737155948
many are saying this

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Game's kind of a mess overall, but it still has some of my favorite bosses in the series. I've started whole playthroughs just to fight the Abyss Watchers or Champion Gundyr again. Hell, something I found really disappointing about Elden Ring is that if they were going to recycle bosses so much, I would have rather they literally dropped a shameless Pontiff Sulyvahn or Nameless King copy down instead of yet another Ulcerated Tree Spirit or Sentinel.

>>737156232
i dont think of "Great Enemies" as bosses, i think of them as just regular enemies that take longer to kill, fighting them is cathartic like popping bubble wrap. Its like a nice break to having to learn a new boss, you fight the same 1 with maybe a minor twist which can be kinda comfy when its not some crazy gank fight like 2 watchdogs and 8 gargoyles.

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For me the reasons I don't like 3 that much are death by a thousand cuts
>very little wiggle room in map progression, as opposed to 1 which was very open to the point you could go to most areas within the first half of the game without killing a single boss, or 2/DeS where you can choose a given 'lane' and progress down that for a given build, made repeat playthroughs very samey
>combat is balanced horrendously. the best build in the game by far is a pair of twinblades you start with and some resin. miracles are complete shit until literal endgame, hexes are barely even in the game anymore and are also complete shit (except for the bleed orbs which are HIDEOUSLY broken, bleed is just disgustingly good), poison is shit, slow weapons are shit, heavy armour is shit, bows are shit, crossbows and greatbows are ATROCIOUS
>fashion is terrible, not much was really designed with a mix and match attitude. most of the helmets show off your neck, shit textures galore
>blatant nostalgiafaggotry, most of the game is 'remember THIS from DeS/DaS1?' to the point of just literally copypasting Siegmeyer and renaming him, and Andre is just THERE, oh my god do you remember Anor Londo guys???
>multiplayer is way less interesting than 2, unique covenant interactions and PvEvP stuff got removed in favour of 'here's bog standard invasions three times over with slightly different colours'
>gear inclusions piss me off, skipping out on Silver Knight weapons (with the stupidest reason I ever saw coming from a BAMCO HR guy), Ciaran and Gough's gear when their counterparts are in the game
>further simplification of the infuse system, also going back on being able to infuse unique gear sucks and further makes the bog standard generic weapons plain better most of the time, not to mention the damage formula that makes split weapons shit returning
As a STR/FAIfag who loved the multiplayer interactions of the previous game it just felt like Miyazaki shitting on me specifically
still a 7/10 thoughever

>>737155976
I didn't like DS2 either, but I found it to be a mediocre game at worst while DS3 was a total mess. DS2 is a bad attempt to recapture what was great about Demon's Souls and DS1 whereas DS3 throws everything great about those games out the fucking window