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Clara daughter-wife!
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>What is Sword of Convallaria?
Sword of Convallaria is part gacha, part full-length SRPG in the vein of FFT and Tactics Ogre, with very light rogue elements. Originally released in the country of Taiwan, also has a separate CN version, a JP version and a Global version.
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The best SoC girl
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Sex with Acambe and Kvare
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>>561912009
yes
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>>561912009
There isn't anything there TO understand, she just turns away from every conversation to say "huh, must be the wind" until the other party gives up on communication
Do lay out the hidden meaning that you've gleaned, please
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>>561918384
I use her every day, in every type of content, and this is the build I always use. Not sure if it's the best, but it works.
You can check the character ranking, the #1 Luvata is different from mine, using the other reaction and her fire teleport instead of searing gaze.
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I've only gotten one roaring flint ever so I rock the necklace instead. I also switch meteor flame to fiery wings sometimes if I know I'm going to be hitting one target since it should be slightly higher damage including the DOT.
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SEX WITHALEXEI'S DADDY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o7-Y5A78z4
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>>561966934
Hmmm...at least he looks more useful than SP Faycal. I loved that ToA stage where we move cargo on the docks and get to place a gazillion exploding traps to nuke crowds of enemies and push them around and freeze them, and Finn gives us a bit of that gameplay. Duo unit with the wolf is neat, and the ability to swap people with the wolf while granting defensive buffs sounds handy.
I get the impression that he's one of those unfortunate characters that actually get an interesting kit that lends more tactical depth to battles, but will be eclipsed by the big dick damage dealers that remove the need for strategy entirely.
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>>561982241
Those Vlder with traps are the only ones with no Legendary equivalent so i'm glad we finally had one. Hopefully his traps has interrupt.
SP Faycal is such a disaster. Should've given him a SoC Aura to make slotting him much more attractive.
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And there we go, a perfect win. With this win alone, I'm set to clear out the rest of the shop when it unlocks. Many of these fights came down to one vs ones, with that 3rd place win being Alexei in overtime (unyielding had proc'd) and just barely getting the win, same with the finals where Lilywill shot an Iron Thorn defender in the back just before expiring to red card DoT.
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>>561992872
is this shit permanent?
would've been a fun mode to farm gold if they didn't made the gold exchange limited
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>>561966934
Yser dagger stonks up
>>561998342
Yes
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I wish VOD was here
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>>562033123
I still got Nydia, Yserinde, Geralt and now Lukamar waiting on the bench. Yen and Triss'll be done in a couple weeks. Would be nice to get stars up on regular Inanna now that I have her unique ascension, and Rico before Luccia hits.
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>>561966934
I'll put him to the test
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>>562042502
>All Defenders are dogshit
Ayisha is underwhelming but decent (her counter build is beyond shit though)
Cocoa is aight
>All Archers are dogshit
Nydia is literally /socg/'s underdog and second favorite girl
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>>562091541
>I just use the r13 for the breakfast for allies in 4 tiles after using a skill
Oh, that's any skill? I thought it meant casting those 2 skills it specifies. Guess I'll swap the pan back to treasure chest then.
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Watch out for Ofina in the arena. She looks like Lightning, but her trait is cracked. Three ST dodges each round, it's very rare more than 3 ai-controlled units will attack her so she's effectively invincible unless you have a big aoe like Flavia or Afra. Even then, the same cracked trait also gives her 50% aoe damage reduction
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I say that, and then get completely fucked against SP Inanna. On the same map (the underground canyon, very narrow starting position with everyone bunched) yesterday, I bet on SP Inanna. All she had to do is take 2 steps forward and nuke the enemy team with her fuckhuge aoe nuke. Instead, she moved her full movement behind her team and cast Call of Freedom on herself, then ended her turn without doing anything and nulling the act again she gave herself.
Today, I bet against her on the same map, and she nuked my whole team and then killed Ofina with a ST attack on her act again, which wasn't dodged for some reason. And Miguel kicked Team Meteor off a cliff, the only one who avoided the big aoe. These things are a coinflip.
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Team Meteor and Hook Captain vs Afra and Alexei in the first round. These would be free finals picks if there were in different brackets.
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>>562125613
The "bruteforce RNG" method for this mode is just to run it until that team of 5 Silver Wolf mercs pops up and then go all in on them. It's the only team I've seen to have a 100% win rate. And Bruno is wild, yeah. Walks up to enemy team, puts chains on them all and sucks out all their health, it's crazy.
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thank you Teadon for your broken gear
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The fuck is this
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>>562162587
Didn't check the rules in the first match but it must've been something incredible stupid because the ref was handing out cards on literally every single action for both teams. It took like 5 mins just to get to round 2.
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>>562208703
Yeah, we seem to have either content droughts or binges. This week we're getting
>second half of Elaman SoD
>new Universal Derivation
>last set of Molten Blood Trials
>second half of the rerun event unlocks
>new banner (not content but w/e)
Though I think the MBTs come out the day before Friday.
>>562209089
Awooooooooooooooo!
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I can't believe it. Plant Squad, literally 8 flowers, threw off all my predictions and won the championship of eight. This'll be 3 eight team tourneys in a row I've got zero coins on the prediction payout screen. Good thing I have more than I need.
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>>562219636
I don't think I finished the new super ultra hard bonus stages they added last time that didn't give significant rewards iirc. I'm stronger now, so hopefully I can slog through 'em this time around.
But probably won't touch it for the first few days as I'm way more interested in the new story.
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>>562261525
It's a possible skill you can get from her Casual Search ability. The Beryl in the arena has her ascension which allows her to blow herself up turn 1.
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>check guild chat
>Anon let us know he'll be offline for a week because he's gonna be busy
>ask why
>this retard as a joke bought a bra at Victoria’s Secret, hid it in his glove compartment, and “accidentally” left the receipt on the passenger seat
>thought April Fools would be hilarious
>wife finds it, goes nuclear
>takes their kid and she’s already talking to a lawyer
>“bro why would you even do that”
>he says we're always joking about cheating on our wives and he thought it’d be a funny prank
>now he’s sleeping on a buddy’s couch while our guild chat is clowning his ass
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I'm a good husband to my wife Beryl though
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>>562262296
Turns out it wasn't.
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Refs run this game.
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Finally
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>>562209089
Nice hair.
>>562269190
The only winning move is not to play. But that's also a losing move.
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>>562262674
Kek
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What the fuck are the new molten blood trials today?
Just tried the first one with the witches and flowers. The flowers one shot my units from across the map before they act, and the one attack I got off (Yen's magic surged elemental storm) barely tickled them!
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After an hour of retrying the first 2 rounds, I give up. It's not currently possible for my account. It's permanent, so I'll come back when Luccia comes out and Ivan can stomp it. No team I make can survive Luna. I thought I could disable her on death nuke, but it's tied to her trait, not a passive or reaction. Most I can get is all named enemies dead but four or more flowers remain.
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>>562319119
Who has that aura again?
Team limit is way too tight as it is, I only got 5 slots and Taair is mandatory to outspeed turn 1, Cam is mandatory 'cause everyone else does shit damage and he needs to go deep and stun Luna turn 1 (her on death frosty breath is 2x power so no one can survive 1x frosty breath plus 2x). Lutfi and Kvare's debuffs have been useful as the enemy doesn't seem to be immune to debuffs and at least Nora's on death aoe nuke can be passive nulled. I've been using Yen to double portal deep strike Kvare+Lutfi for max rain+decoy but it's still not enough.
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I wish I had Afra. I bet her huge aoe sleep would solve this. Was just about to ask if anyone else has an aoe stun besides Cam, because that's so clutch. If Luvata gets her 2 turn, it's GG. If Beryl gets her first turn, someone dies to Chuu. If Luna gets any turn without active skill null, it's gg. It's so deviously set up, the white flower goes after the others so if anyone who gets targeted it lucky enough to survive 2 flower attacks, the white one picks up the kill and spawns a new full health enemy on kill.
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>try SP Saf with Co-Defense, stacking her with 3 Irian allies to cap the extra 40% DEF gains
>one shot by basic red flower from full hp
lol, lmao even. Taair's damage share, the go to move for surviving ridiculously overtuned damage, just kills your team faster since aoes get multiplied.
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I just went in with Kvare nuke, Yen portaling SP Inanna & Sam in for more nuke and Luvata nuking the remaining flowers. End of round 1 was only Beryl/Luna/Abyss. Flavia got off her shitty nuke (her flower was dead) which triggered Kvare's shield reaction so Luna's nuke didn't do any actual damage. Luvata also tanked Chu3 with her fire barrier.
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>>562324123
Can you please upload a replay of that clear?
As well of images of every unit on your team, all equipment and tarot substats? No Cam seems baffling, all aoe specialists like Sam and Luvata do less than half of his damage, aoe nukes only do like 10% of Flavia's health.
It seems truly, truly impossible. Kvare's shield reaction cannot block normal Luna's frosty breath, let alone the double strength death one. You somehow ate 3 frosty breaths because you didn't stop Luna on turn 1. You also ate an extra Chu from Beryl round 1 and an aoe from Nora which does about half of most units' health. Kvare can't hit everyone with his aoe unless you use one of your 2 portals on him, which you didn't.
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Gave it a try and the strat looks fairly solid, I'm just missing a few key components. Ended with a TPK round 2 with only Luna and the two leftmost flowers still alive, the tank one and the toxic red one. I would've won if it wasn't for Luna's turn 1 frosty breath going off, which instakilled SP Sam and Luvata. Actually, I wouldn't have won if I survived that, because killing Luna would trigger the same thing at double power. Is there anyone who can massively buff the whole party's magical defense?
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Rare Taiir
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Did it! Tried to see if anyone had uploaded a youtube clear yet, found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUiAAL155s
Now, my run was pretty scuffed, the tank flower and one toxic flower survived the huge nuke instead of just Luna. But I was able to finish them off with SP Inanna and SP Sam, the only survivors of the first frosty breath, and was able to keep out of range of Luna until act again+Heal was back up, which was enough for SP Inanna to tank the final frosty breath.
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>>562262674
It was just a prank bro
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>>562331885
thank you for posting
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Dammit Afra! She would've gone all the way to the top if TM didn't outmaneuver her and then bump her into the tiny water pool in the middle of the desert map. Can't wait to get this last tempering level and drop this mode until the limited time arena betting events come out in the future
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Pooch will come on the discounted 10 roll or not at all.
I was going to post the yapdoc tier-list update but despite the arrows the only unit that actually changed tiers was Ayishah from t2.5 to t2.
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>>562350330
She's so darn cute, but yeah, same here. Only doing the discount tenner. Her unique debuff that triggers at start of turn instead of end of turn is cool though. With some luck, it could kill a dying foe before they can act, or weaken a foe's damage by bringing them over the injured or dying thresholds before their attack goes off.
For those of you who want to actually use her, she needs Lukamar for those liberation stacks, similar to Shams. After Shams, devs realized they shouldn't make all Elaman units dependant on Lukamar to work, so the later ones have better stack generation assuming you get them to higher stars (or so I hear).
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I never wanted to breed with anyone more than I want to with Homa. That perfect, curvy body. Those bountiful breasts. The child bearing hips of a literal goddess. It honestly fucking hurts knowing that I'll never mate with her, pass my genes through her, and have her birth a set of perfect offspring. I'd do fucking ANYTHING for the chance to get Homa pregnant. A N Y T H I N G. And the fact that I can't is quite honestly too much to fucking bear. Why would the Elaman create something so perfect? To fucking tantalize us? Fucking laugh in our faces?! Honestly guys, I just fucking can't anymore. Fuck.
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Probably should have asked a few minutes ago but nothing bad will happen if someone hypothetically sends a satisfaction survey back with racial slurs all over it, right?
It's not actually in-game and nobody can see the slurs to bring the game into disrepute
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Told them to ban Hawky necause he breaks ToS
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>calls her a brick for months
>get her first in the discount pull
umm Shams BRICK, Clara BRICK, Selina Brick, Yeganeh BRICK, Hashan BRICK, Shanhaz BRICK, KIANSHIR BRICK!!!
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>>562414562
Congrats!
>>562422107
She's more useful than SP Failure, but that's the lowest bar. I guess if you wanna use DoTs, she'd be part of the dream team. Might be decent for soloing early UD stages with her dodge counter.
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>>562433790
Meta's been swinging back to ST in Luccia. Luccians dominate that future meta, the Elamans that stay higher are the same ones that will be considered good in Elaman: Shahnaz, Heshan, Lukamar and Shams, with Clara and Kianshir finding solid niches.
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I did my discounted tenner...what does it mean?
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>>562319660
Momo among others, Falin has the better version, I think Papal Ice has one opposite a skill you would rather have
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as a near day 1 player I just unga'd the stage with Kvare,Cam,Sam,Spanana. and Taair because you made it sound tough
admittedly on the first go I disregarded one bottom plant and it finished the 3 that survived Luna's death AOE so that was funny
on rollback I had Cam make sure to finish Nora before she moved instead, that abyss maidservant who makes booze tiles, because you take more magic damage on them, left Luna free to act and she barely tickled anyone
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Nice, I'm day 1 but maybe I haven't been focusing on tarots and engravings enough, 'cause it seems like you've got way more damage and defense than I do. Lemme know if you manage to beat the other 3 stages. 18 is all the Vlder in the game plus some Vlder minions, 19 is all the Luccians and 20 is Sword of Convallaria including the SP versions. I can take out a couple of the Vlder but then they swarm up the cliff and tear me to pieces. Iggy's got that Behemoth Hunting nuke, reminds me of Magnus' Mountain Breaker how it oneshots people if he's given boss stats.
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I did beat the Vlder and Luccians but could not do much to Maitha
tagged in my own Cocoa for Vlder as I imagined theirs would gomen someone to death otherwise, Iggy went down before he got the NRG for his real skill, Cam and Sam cleared easily but looking at enemy stats it does feel like it could just as easily go the other way if you're a bit short of finishing them before they can act
luccians nabbed me the first time with Bruto's chain but going unga bunga on the Agata side instead did the trick
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I do have that +10% (it would get better at 5*) damage buff sword on Spanana and maxed breaker offense talents, otherwise tarots in the not amazing but good range like atk atk% hp%
I don't imagine Maitha can be brute forced though, have not retried but maybe if one can make Lutfi go first and make the judge jump in front of him to take the Piro lock ons. but not sure I could chew through even a lone Maitha fast enough desu
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Wasn't going to do my usual blog post ritual for a single discounted multi, but I somehow got the Poochy! Though it seems that's most people's pulling experience for this banner lol. Kinda regret going all the way to 179 pulls on Nungal Alter, since after grabbing my "free" Lukamar and getting lucky with the ball fondler, I'm only 20 pulls deep into the Elaman season and I barely have any of the new low rarity units. Guess I'll have to wait till Shams' banner.
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>>562473605
I got a shiny new Nergal and Iggy chasing Nungal Alter so I know the pain lol. I think I'd rather have gotten a character I had at 5 stars for the memory crystals, since those two will forever be at 1 star.
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>>562473743
Down to 120 pulls worth now so I'm probably gonna have to skip Shams to get gravity boobs.
>>562474140
Yeah those are definitely worse jumpscares. I'm sorry for your loss as well.
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>>562473605
My condolences
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now I'm feeling sad for Pooch...
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It's real tough finding the space. I try to get every unit I intend to use to at least 3 stars, but that's a 27 day hiatus for someone already in the mines . Lukamar is staying in for sure, so I guess Yserinde and Nydia will take a break from their 5 star training arc (I'm autistic about keeping the sisters at the same level) and I'll sub in Maitha with ball fondler until Shamwow arrives.
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Poochy's the kind of girl that you be a little bit kinda nice to so she develops an emotional dependence on you and then you take her away and she naturally falls into servitude but she doesn't even notice that she's living as your slave totally voluntarily being paid only in occasional praise and when people try to tell her that you're abusing her she gets mad at them and defends you
Also you cheat on her
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Can anyone explain what sigils are exactly? They seem like a cornerstone of Elaman society, to the point that Elamanian arc ends the way it did (not going to spoiler) as in everyone needing them?
Maybe I'm just retarded or something got lost in translation because I can't understand why every social class needs them so much.
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>>562513328
A sigil is just a symbol for focusing power and thoughts for a particular purpose so I assume the Elamanian sigils are just a means of using fine, specific luxite blessings
I've still got lots left to play through so that guess is based wholly on the word sigil itself
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Seeing a flashback to 985 with Heshan got me thinking: he hasn't aged a day in 15 years, unlike Saf and Rawi, maybe Vlder live notably longer than humans? And that made me realize we've never seen an elderly Vlder. I'm used to beastfolk have shorter or comparable lifespans to humans in other fantasy settings, but it may be the opposite here. If they didn't all die from slaver-induced injuries, disease, suicide or being killed in battle, I wonder how long they'd live.
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I haven' finished the story yet, I think I'm around act 35 of 50, so I'm not sure where they'll end with it, but I'll put this in spoiler text anyway:The sigil technology Shahnaz talks about is the one part of Elaman arc I don't like and really wish they hadn't included in the setting 'cause it jumps the shark on things. The applications are mindboggling and if fully realized, would jump the setting far into sci-fi overnight from military to medical and more. Being able to rewrite the human brain to fix or enhance the body is crazy, it's basically the Coordinator tech from Gundam SEED.
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Honestly I think it's more likely that you're overthinking things
To be so long-lived they would only rarely procreate or the population would balloon out of control but that can't be how they work or they'd have died out with how often they get worked to death or killed outright in slavery
Rawiyah didn't age a day in however many years either until they decided to make enough content to warrant designing a new version of her, her FJ chapter should have her much younger than it does
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>>562519278
Yeah, it's probably just the devs being lazy with art/sprites and not wanting to make younger versions for a 2 minute cutscene. Still, it did make me realize we've never seen a Vlder survive until old age. Hopefully Schaklulu'll be the first, I think she's probably the oldest one currently around.
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Wish they added this pose in available ones for the house.Reminded me of Pink Guy vs Bane meme
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HOLY KINOTHANKS XDEO /SOCG/IMA
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Pooch isn't that bad desu, her circus ball attack nukes pretty hard and she has infinity dodges+counterattacks. But she's shackled to Lukamar and you have to check enemies attacks on every map to make sure they don't AoE nuke her which is pretty lame.
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>Pink Guy
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>>562539545
Yeah, it did feel shorter. Shame we didn't get an animated scene at the end like other ones, or a special song like Night Crimson, but I still enjoyed it and liked the ending. Speaking of the ending (major spoilers),HOLY SHIT I CAN'T BELIEVE I JUST MADE A GUNDAM COMPARISON EARLIER ONLY FOR THE FINAL SCENE TO REVEAL IT'S LITERALLY A GUNDAM PLOT! The Elaman Civil War was a testing ground for some shady, presumably Menian, group to explore how sigil technology can be used to modify human beings to better pilot mecha. What the FUCK?
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And speaking of kino, when you guys get to the miniboss before the final battle, check their trait for a bit of extra kino in the flavor text.
>>562513328
Will probably run out of words and have to make a second post, but here goes:
>Can anyone explain what sigils are exactly?As with everything, it comes down to Luxite. The old Hashah's queen was a Papal States scholar kicked out of her country for doing forbidden research on a Luxite relic called "Divine Light". In Elaman, she continued her research which led to her creating the Prime Sigil (I assume it is some sort of copy or derivative of the Divine Light relic).
Sigil technology's applications are practically limitless as Shahnaz says in Pt 1. They can rewrite neural pathways to fix her amnesia, or give slaves and craftsman superhuman manual dexterity, or "optimize" the human body's performance to make Shams' Sunfire Corps better/stronger/faster than any other warriors.
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>I can't understand why every social class needs them so much.
Going from the bottom up:Slaves and artisans need them to achieve the superhuman manual dexterity in their hands to craft things like Cooling Powder and all manner of Elamanian crafts. But these lowest tier sigils run out of juice over team and can only be recharged by the upper tier sigils worn by nobility. The nobility charge artisans tons of money for the service of maintaining their sigils and with slaves, it's part of how they maintain control over them (like the old craftsman slave who betrays you to return to his master once freed in Pt 1; you gave him freedom but he felt his life was meaningless without the ability to do the one thing he had done all his life. It's kind of like drug addiction, or a person who lives to run losing use of their legs and only special rich people can restore the use of them.
Above the upper tier/noble sigils is the Prime Sigil, which is powered by the imperial bloodline so it determines who rules as Hashah. There's a bit of a missing link here between the noble's sigils and the Prime Sigil as the story never says this outright, but my hypothesis is that besides giving the user insane personal power of a one man army (see Shams, serious Lukamar in the final battle and Shahnaz using her artificial Prime Sigil), the Prime Sigil must be needed to maintain the nobility's sigils. Otherwise, they don't really have a need to follow a ruler if they already have superpowers from their sigils and the ability to hold sway over the lesser sigils of the common populace. We never see the noble's sigils being used for anything, but I suspect it might've been sigil tech that let a fattie like Hashem turn into Mike Tyson.
tl;dr ancient luxite tech that enhances humans, and the poor people's sigils are dependent on the noble's sigils, whose sigils in turn are dependent on the Prime Sigil.
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Units in dust take % dmg.
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Her damage never impressed me. I've only ever used clones and teleport which still makes her a pretty good support.
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I wouldn't know since the fix but it's easily testable with Homa with whatever skills you end up going with.
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I like to use her elemental storm when I need to clear lots of mobs spread out wider than Sam's 3 tile wide aoe. If portal's on cooldown, I'll fire a ball lightning to get a solid chunk out of a single foe, or put down fire/ice tiles with her wall of fire or hail spells. Been using her a lot lately, she's become a staple. Not sure if I should be using her ult or not though, I'm not taking advantage of her healing at all.
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Acambe is for (us) only
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I really hope they explore his backstory a little more in the Fool's journey mode or something because I still don't understand why he's crying on his splash art if he's supposedly an asshole who only cares about the realm. He can't be crying about losing the Vltar Mountain.
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Coming to SoC after playing hoyo games IMO SoC story and characters feel better to me. Besides Inanna story. I dislike Inanna story in particular because it kind of feels like Inanna's idealistic dream under Afra's drugs. A bit too cliche.
If bigger and more popular gacha game's stories straight up suck then SoC is doing good for a gacha.
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What did he do? Is it something from the old Elaman route that I didn't play or just personal dislike? I get hating Lutfi but Acambe and Taair so far didn't strike me as characters that are irritating.
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>There's a bit of a missing link here between the noble's sigils and the Prime Sigil as the story never says this outright
I kinda feel like it was said outright after old mate runs back to his slave job and they get the run down on how someone becomes a noble slaver with imperial blessing
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it's not asoiaf or malazan but it has better dialogue than Sandersons or red rising etc.
SoC has a good story and dialogue for a gacha game. My only complain is the inconsistency with the use of anachronism in the language.
People say Limbus and FGO has the best gacha story but it has the trappings of anime pretentiousness in dialogue and character interactions that makes anime usually cringe. At least SoC is straight to the point.
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So you're telling me that even at 1 star, Pooch can trivialize some of the hardest content in the game? Do chinks just build their tierlists in reverse because they live on the other side of the world?
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Well, the last few are tougher than any ToA, UD Crisis Challenge or Fireside we've gotten other than maybe the first Fireside and that was more because of what we had access to at the time. Hard Mode FJ with all the difficulty modifiers turn on is probably harder, but there's not much else comparable when it comes to high difficulty content in this game. Oh, and the highest Ranking Challenges are likely harder too but I almost forgot those exist because there's no reward for doing them.
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All done now. 18 was the hardest, I used Pooch+SP Sam+Camelot+Yenn+SP Inanna and Pooch's Scarring Rend killed the last few enemies right before she died.
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Man, I'm tempted to pull for Pooch now that people are using her and showing how good she is. Why did the chinks even consider her so low tier/skippable? I gotta pray she spooks me, 'cause I want too many upcoming characters to afford a hard pity right now.
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>Momo
>Nydia
>now Pooch
I wonder which character in the Luccian arc will be god tier in /socg/ and low tier everywhere else.
Speaking of Nydia, my Triss'll be maxed tomorrow so I'll finally begin my months long journey of taking her from 3* to 5*. Watched a vid of her completely nuking half the map in blood trial 18 and 19, she's so cool.
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Dammit, okay. I'll do some pulls on her banner. If I don't get her, I guess that's building pity toward Shams. I do like DoTs and debuff and she'd go nice with my Lutfi and Kvare, but I was under the impression she was really bad for some reason. Was it because of this >>562647607?
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Got her in 62, not bad. Got a Caris dupe along the way to bring her up to 3* which was nice. Caris really wants 5* but I think the only way I'll get her there is via pulling four more dupes.
What are you guys running on your Pooch? The Show Begins! and Spotlight Entrance seem obvious, as does her unique reaction and basic attack. Maybe Rousing Dance in the last slot to give her more Liberation stacks until My Lukamar is 5*? Or maybe the dodge passive, Illusive Spectacle? I don't think she needs the heal (Intermission) since I can heal her with someone else, though it does give dodge stacks, dmg reduction and an atk buff to increase her DoT damage. Scarring Rend's DoT scales off HER p.atk, not the enemy's, right?
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Rousing if you aren't using Lukamar with her, Illusive if you are. Yes it scales off Pooch's patk. You will want some form of cooldown reduction for her (banner/Credenza/etc) otherwise she has 1 turn of dodge downtime where she just fucking dies. The heal active can be useful if you aren't able to do that as it gives her 2 dodge stacks on her off-turn.
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Dammit. Been trying to follow this vid and it works up until the final action. It plays so quickly I didn't even realize the reason this whole thing works is he has the OG Sam inherit reaction onto SP Sam, which I don't have. Was wondering why my Judgment Brand didn't proc and finish off the last enemy; it's because before he can do that the judge's DoT procs, he dies, is resurrected at full hp and then the brand goes off, but I just die. Guess I need to find a way to squeeze an extra heal onto Sam somehow.
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There'll be more reason to do it in the future, it's surprisingly not an abandoned game mode. When the second half of the shop opens up, so will Bladecraft Chess, which is a kind of roguelite mode, and they periodically run arena events (CN's getting a new one right around now). Plus even though our tempering level is capped at 35, they eventually double that to 70 with more rewards for each level like we had for the first 35.
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3* lets her start with 10 stacks of Restraint, her unique damage reduction buff, and increases her DoT aura to 25% more DoT damage instead of 15%, and lets her trigger her DoT counter 3 times per round instead of 2, so I'd go for 3* if you can.
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It would be much easier if Luna's on death nuke was tied to a passive skill or her reaction but it's in her trait so there's no way to nullify it. The bosses of these trials aren't immune to debuffs, so they can be disabled.
There's a number of youtube clears by now, so check out some vids and see if ya can get some inspiration. I still have 18 and 19 to do, gonna save vlder for last
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Can anyone tell me how this guy's Sam has 5 movement at 1:24 in this vid? Same has base 3 movement and Inanna casting Light of Convallaria gives her +1. I'm one square shy of pulling off this clear.
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Nevermind, figured it out. He must have Fafnir on her, which I don't have, so there's that idea down the drain. The other strats I've found require a 5* Taair or a 5* Nydia, both of mine are at 3*.
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all the trials are easily cheesed by Pooch+SP Sam
Pooch to disable all active skills on enemies
SP Sam because she can revive 5 billion times in a row if you have her inherit reaction skill from OG Sam and feed her NRG with Taair or something.
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Speaking of that ToA, this week's 9-5 in the Tower of Conquest is a preview of that final floor, the fight against Hashem and his guards in the desert. You can check out his skills now, it makes it quite obvious you gotta use ST, which is why Lukamar and Shams are the preferred units for that floor.
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Thanks, will do.
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>>562913056
Both of those are dropping Apr 26.
This week we're getting double shards and the voyagers' conundrum guild event. Next week we'll get the Bladecraft Chess stuff for the Crucible Arena. Then there's ascension skill update and lighthouse update. Then the week after there's ToA. Then the next week is the Elaman Proof of Strength update.
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Lorefags, don't forget to check the encyclopedia in Destiny Traces after clearing the Elaman arc for a few further details on things. It's mostly just stuff we knew already or confirming things that were already theorized with more direct language.
I thought Shams' Sunfire Corps, the betrayal he felt and his thirst for revenge came from events that happened near the end of the 2nd Radiant War, but he actually formed them after the war as a nationalist movement protesting the capitulation Kianshir made to the Papal States to end the war. Shams and the boyz went on to fight in various minor border skirmishes after the war, but he won too many fights vs the Papal States which threatened the relative peace between the two nations, so Kianshir and the Papal States joined forces to "completely annihilate the Sunfire Corps" in some undetailed incident/battle.
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>>563023861
What I've found more annoying is that the ai can't handle being blind in a dust cloud
If they have no aoe to use instead they will just skip their turn rather than stepping out of the dust and using a single target attack
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It's honestly impressive how the devs manage to make UD worse with every iteration. I just finished 16 I think and I'm already seeing infinitely stackable DOT for sandstorm just being on the map with the sandstorm conjurerer always outside of your movement and attack range turn 1 and also invalidates any single target only character by going untargetable, significant piercing damage just for starting your turn in a dust cloud, enemies that have 3 tile knockback and/or DoT with dust cloud summoning on every attack, and those assholes with flowers that make every skill trigger 4 times, flowers that just yoink a unit off the battlefield, whatever the fuck that Percival fight was supposed to be. AND an escort mission. This shit is so time consuming and not fun it completely revokes any bonus points the event gets for being an easy source of astral shards.
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Well that's comforting to know. I guess it makes sense given the gimmick tends to change every 5-10 stages but man this is legit as unenjoyable as the version where every enemy got double HP physical and magical shields that would be fully restored if you had to reenter the battle.
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>>563043306
I like how each one I have more 5*, r13 legendaries so I can go a bit further each time before refreshing. Makes me wonder if I'll hit a point years from now where I can do it without refreshing. Thank God gear doesn't lock to units
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>>563126803
My understanding is Shahnaz is the next big must have unit. Between her there are some good units but not meta defining. Shams is new dps flavour of month. Clara has a shield niche. Heshan is the next support and gives crit buffs amount other things. Anna seems important (mandatory has been thrown around) for her arc but CN overstates everything.
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>>563131105
>Anna seems important (mandatory has been thrown around) for her arc but CN overstates everything.
There's massive backlash going on because of how mandatory all the Luccians are for all the new(luccian) content.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iblVrqCXMOg
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I would love to hear a non-chink opinion on this. I know there's unique mechanics relating to monsters in the Luccia update, but does it actually effectively hardlock you into Luccian units with the specific counter skills and negate every normal cheese strategy like dodge, infection, piercing damage, sleep etc., or is it just bugmen whining because they can't auto it with whatever meme unit they were last told to pull by the retard who makes that atrocious tier list?
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From what I've seen, in Luccia you're mostly fighting monsters/beasts instead of people, and they all have this new mechanic called "Nature's Guardian" where their role icon will have a shield behind it and they're basically invincible until you break that status. I'm not 100% sure on how you break each one, it might be using counter roles? But all Luccians, including our current ones like Rico and Agata once they get their Luccian unique ascension skills, flat-out ignore the mechanic so it's the classic gacha dev strategy of making a new problem to sell you the solution.
There's also some annoying gimmick enemies like flying bugs that immune to everything except ST ranged attacks. Anna seems to be the most "must pull" tier since she deals with any and all of the new gimmicks by herself, Ivan seems OP and Finn seems interesting from a technical standpoint but idk if his numbers make his gimmicks useful enough or not.
>or is it just bugmen whining because they can't auto it with whatever meme unit they were last told to pull by the retard who makes that atrocious tier list?
They are really, really mad the devs have specifically made Luccian content much harder/impossible to auto.
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>Is poochie worth pulling
Others have addressed the banner schedule, so just to add, I've used her in big boy content at 1* and she immediately pulls her weight. You'll always read some qualifying statement on how her gimmick doesn't work if there's AOEs and such and taunt doesn't always work, and that's all true, but those statements always neglect the fact that like 80-90% of units do nothing but single target attacks or are susceptible to taunt anyway. Coochie soloing 3/4ths of the enemies on a given map while the rest of your team takes care of everything she can't handle is still pretty good. If you like the DoT playstyle, the idea of dodge tanking or cheesy units at all, she's worth a couple pulls, definitely.
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Defender as in green units, or as in a tank?
For the former, definitely no. She won't get the offensive or defensive bonus against Seekers. Also, most Defender units usually bring some sort of support, healing, or both to the table, like the upcoming Clara and Heshan, and Pooch does none of that.
She can operate as a tank, but works unusually in that regard since rather than taking attacks for your other nearby units, her playstyle is all about going into a group of enemies and taunting them to attack her instead; offensive tanking, if you will. In fact, she wants to be away from the rest of your team, rather than in the middle of it. It's very effective, but doesn't cover every situation, so you'll want another normal tank as well, long-term.
I think the upcoming Clara isn't bad for that role, she should be next after the Shams banner if I'm not mistaken.
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>rompetormenta S
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https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ysx5xoPxxJY
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This might be the first time the content in this game has overwhelmed me. Maybe other stuff going on too but I'd usually have usered most of UD by now and I'm struggling to just get 10 stages autoed by reset every night.
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So the chinks went from crying that Finn isn't overpowered enough, to now saying that everything is too strong and needs to be nerfed? Who is giving them their marching orders and why do they flip flop so much with their whining? Pick a lane.
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>Finish new Elaman story
>Now miss the feeling of playing it for the first time
Not sure if it's the characters, me liking middle east themed regions in games, the story or all combined. I wish the story was longer and with deeper dive into certain characters' backstories because I'm still curious about them (like Kianshir still feels like a mystery nigga).
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Aoe damage. A lot. She's apparently the only "tier 0" to come out of the Elaman arc, the next SP Samantha. Chinks are mad that none of the new Luccians that come after her have as high base stat totals as her, she's the queen. Yes, they're also mad that the game's too hard even with her being busted OP.
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Something looks off about this game when I look at it but 123k on steam and a bunch of people saying it blows botw/totk out of the water has me intrigued. Also nobody gives a shit about this genre of game except weirdos, not at all a fair comparison to make.a /vm/ thread I frequent moves faster than here
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Inanna becomes the Queen of Rhodinia and you act her proxy to further her globalist agenda.
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Entered with Shams at 80% HP and SoC Team just destroyed him
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by playing since day 1, logging mornings and evenings and spending all that excess NRG on talent stages, as well as nrg potions whenever there are 99 extra attempts on them
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Kinda, or at one point she was and you could build her for defence. This is the setup I've had on her forever but some people use erosive power.
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>>563568901
This is what I use too but sometimes I switch meteor for her repulsion skill.
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39 and 40 today. Probably never crisis because I'm lazy.
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I have a mighty need!
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Is molten trial permanent? Can't beat stages 17 and further even with yt guidance because I just don't do enough damage. Either my builds suck or my talent tree is not upgraded enough. Anyways, I'll need time to fix both issues and need to know if the event is time-gated.
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>>563588790
I remembered the maps so I knew they were tough but my brain can't compute using such shit units anymore. Assist stages that come out now you can just auto Being forced to use Garcia as a dps is suffering.
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>>563595197
It was a strange feeling where I remember not feeling great about using the characters the first time because I didn't have them and didn't know how they worked yet, this time they felt bad because I'm too familiar with using them with their fancy buffs like unique ascensions, gear skills and massive stats
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Made it to CC 4, man these ghost fights are rough. And this time, they put the nameless grave way in the back behind enemies? This is gonna be rough, I'm gonna have to use an attempt just to break that thing. I think I might go to CC 5, not sure.
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>>563634109
Not necessarily right up to. If you're running the alert trinket and triggering once when an enemy steps in and then again as they attack her, normal enemies are usually injured and deal less damage when is then further reduced by her trait's barrier. She also gets lifesteal while the alert is active, so she ends up being decently tanky in a lot of content
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It is done. Thank you, double shard week.
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Depending on how my Shams pulls go, I may actually pull on the weapon banner for once. His sig is nuts, 20% crit and damage at one star (doubling to 40% at 5*) is worth it for him, I think. At the very least, I still have 10 of those free weapon tickets.
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>>563527610
Now that I'm trying these crisis stages and using at least one refresh per stage, it's blowing my mind how impressive this anon is for clearing all 10 so early. Dude must've used almost no refreshes, 2 or 3 tops.
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That was 4 refresh
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I remember clearing all the mobs except Rico and Teadon before i was able to destroy those graves
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>>563673776
That's, that what ended up happening. Idk how Cam one shot the light conjurer with his ult despite both graves being active and giving her all that dmg reduction. Now I've finally popped one, and Rico+Teadon are the only ones left so I'm trying to make my way across to the far one.
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Got the graves but
>only Rico and Teadon left
>stage still has 70% hp overall
Sweet Jesus, they each have over 1 million hp and barely take damage even with the dmg reduction sources removed. This is gonna be a bit of a slog, but I know I can get past it eventually.
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hi Anon. I haven't played the game for some time, last year really. so now i'm back to get my fix of grid-based TRPG.
before i start, i want to know if there is any new for (You) girls in SOD? off the top of my head the well known ones are inanna, gloria, samantha & the vlder dance group hag. it's not essential for my enjoyment, but a new waifu would boost my motivation to play.
(also wow, this general really died out compared to last year)
& wtf is going on with 4chinz. system keeps blocking my posts for no reason.
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hi Anon. I haven't played the game for some time, last year really. so now i'm back to get my fix of grid-based TRPG.
before i start, i want to know if there is any new for (You) girls in SOD? off the top of my head the well known ones are inanna, gloria, samantha & the vlder dance group hag. it's not essential for my enjoyment, but a new waifu would boost my motivation to play.
(also wow, this general really died out compared to last year)
& wtf is going on with 4chinz. keeps blocking my posts arbitrarily.
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.hi Anon. I haven't played the game for some time, last year really. so now i'm back to get my fix of grid-based TRPG.
before i start, i want to know if there is any new for (You) girls in SOD? off the top of my head the well known ones are inanna, gloria, samantha & the vlder dance group hag. it's not essential for my enjoyment, but a new waifu would boost my motivation to play.
(also wow, this general really died out compared to last year)
& wtf is going on with 4chinz! keeps blocking my posts arbitrarily
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Shut the fuck up! It's clearly working again!
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>before i start, i want to know if there is any new for (You) girls in SOD? off the top of my head the well known ones are inanna, gloria, samantha & the vlder dance group hag. it's not essential for my enjoyment, but a new waifu would boost my motivation to play.
The latest story arc, the new Elaman one, has two new gals who love the MC, Clara and Shahnaz. The former is the next banner after the one coming this week, and the later's getting released with a skin later and is extremely powerful (Clara's good too, just not the tip top like Shahnaz).
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oh shit, are we back?
test
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Soon-ishnot really
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Is this a good keep for a new account? Just started an hour or so ago
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>>563704682
You'll establish a large roster in no time, so it doesn't matter too much.
Pamina's one of my favorite units, and Ayishah just won most popular character for what it's worth (not much).
More notably, Shams' banner's about to go up, and he's the strongest single-target dealer in the game.
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it's decent
all characters (except collabs) goes to the general pool so your roster will grow.
Use this guidance:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X426ozb4RIFXzuWa_npt_jUoUd6Pp8FSv6 ilNGNVIIE/edit?tab=t.0
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>>563704682
You'll be okay. Both of those two were very high usage for me until SP Samantha came out which basically reset the entire tier list for everyone who came before. Angel is a good healer in the beginning.
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And she lived happily ever after...
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Many thanks to Great Hashah Lukamar for her kind giftDoes that mean he's for (me) now?
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They're finally translating these again.
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Thanks guys. I'm not tied to this account, should I wait a day and get this sham guy instead?
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>>563744058
One thing to keep in mind about Shams: he's tied to his oneesan to feed him liberation stacks every turn and since you don't have Lukamar, he won't do as well for you as he'd do for many others.
I'm personally not 100% if you should reroll for him or not. Shams+Lukamar+SP Inanna would be the god roll.
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>>563758049
Nah, you'll be fine. They're both still seeing some use even in modern CN. The only thing you'd be bricked on for skipping Shams would be if you're shooting for the top in the rankings for the next ToAs.
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>>563760661
Two weeks. Then a new banner comes along, they don't overlap like some games. And as soon as a character's debut banner ends, they are made a permanent part of the gacha pool.
Reminds me of a funny twist of fate back when Kvare, Luvata and then Estra debuted in that order. I pulled on all three to get them, but on Estra's banner I pulled a Kvare dupe and Luvata dupe so I was like "why did I even pull on the previous two banners lol?"
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Ahh~