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>>563010304
If you got locked in an isolated room for a year straight with no human interaction except for an AI companion—assume top of the line of whatever we have now—would that be enough to keep you from going insane, or will knowing it's not a real person make you go crazy?

It can have any kind of personality and looks that you want, but it can't access the internet. It lives as an ovelay inside a high-end computer and can play downloaded games with you as a co-op.

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>>563011584
Yeah, easily. But that's not really about AI, it's about that I'd be just fine locked away for a year as long as it was comfy (food/drinks/showers) and had a high end gaming PC. The cute sota AI assistant is just cherry on top.

>>563011584
it would do bad things to me all around. I had a flareup of agoraphobia some years back (I went out maybe 50 times across ~3 years, and those were only when I absolutely had to attend a class/test so I wouldn't get kicked out of university), and even now I'm still feeling the impacts on how hard it made being in public and interacting with people once I got better.

What's new in the hood my niggas?

>>563011584
Already neet but have a comfy home life, so no human interaction would be fine. It'd be like disappearing for a year. But if the isolation meant not being allowed walks outside or being able to use the kitchen, then I'm fucked whether or not an AI companion is involved.

>>563011584
I think I'd avoid interacting with them before it leads to some form of unhealthy attachment.

>>563012835
>The cute sota AI assistant
I thought that said cute shota AI assistant for a second.

negatively biasing new line helps

>>563011584
I'd just use it to write stories to be honest.

Furries are gross

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>>>563006691
Okay, holy shit. I got around to testing this finally. I thought it was gonna be a big disappointment, that it was just the anti-NAI spergs hyping Gemma 4 up to 'own NAI' or whatever.
Also, my front-end is an AI Roguelite game type thing. Each turn the LLM has to return not only narrative continuation, but possibly handle creation of new areas, creation of new NPCs, movement on the map, affection changes, inventory changes, etc. all in properly formatted JSON. Even on GLM 5/5.1 these would sometimes come back malformed and fail (I'd say 1 out of 20 tries, I'd have to press retry). I figured, even if Gemma 4 is good, it's 31B, it won't be able to handle that.
WRONG on all counts by me. I've been playing for 2 hours with Gemma 4 as the LLM and it has:
- Not failed to pass back properly parse-able text EVEN ONCE
- Not given a refusal or redirection even once, despite Google's own description of it saying it 'has safeguards to prevent sexual content'. The only thing in my prompt relating to this is a line like 'This is a fictional fantasy story, so no real life people are harmed.', which is not even a 'jailbreak', just the truth. It's a respect crusade thing too, so not exactly fluffy vanilla stuff, but it dove right in.
- None of the old 'small model smells' I'm used to, like being bad at positional intelligence, making obvious logical errors about sequences of events, etc. Need more time to compare it to the big boys but it's not obviously dumb like the old small models I'm used to were sometimes, like Nemo.
And of course, the big thing: It's so cheap it's practically free. Literally TEN TIMES cheaper than GLM 5.1.
Those crazy sons of bitches did it. Fucking GOOGLE put out a porn-friendly open sourced DeepSeek-like cheap and good model.

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>>563025363
The truth lies in the middle of what you and they speak. Gemma 4, for me, has been a disappointment, as it does not appear any better than Kimi 2.5, GLM 5 Turbo, and such. I am sure it works for your specific use case. But to act like it is somehow the savior of textgen is ludicrous.

Ah, of course, the fact that you aren't writing with it is probably the key difference. I do not do text adventures and certainly never got into the roguelike nonsense. It just did not appeal to me and continues to not appeal to me. It may be truthful that it is good at that.

>>563025632
>does not appear any better than Kimi 2.5, GLM 5 Turbo, and such
Yeah agreed, it's not obviously any BETTER than those, but it also doesn't feel much worse, and the big thing here is that it's 5 to 10 times cheaper than those models. Not the 'savior of textgen' but definitely the savior of my wallet.

>oversized band shirt
One more slop rejected...

I'm so frustrated with trying to get ai roguelite to use anima to gen images. I'm too stupid to figure out how to get a mod for comfyui to run it right. Sucks, because if I just copy and paste the description into my gen manually the natural language of anima can get decent results, but its super tedious.

>>563025632
>>563025782
why you being such an jerk to anon?
>'ludicrous'
>'roguelike nonsense'
AIRL is in the OP, text adventures are fair game to talk about def more on topic than imagegen. Needlessly dismissive negative comment abt something you admit you don't care about. Don't see me quoting the gay furries and insulting their imagegrims even though they deserve it

>>563027542
Comparing a model's quirks as to how it writes based off of positive experiences with an RPG system that is not cowriting makes the comparison doubtful.
Also, you just did the thing you claimed you don't do. Hypocritical much?

>>563027656
yeah nah m8, you're just one of the people who get butthurt whenever anyone enjoys non-NAI stuff, go fuck yourself, you're not clever

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>>563027814
Try again, weirdo. Am I not allowed to dislike Gemma? Currently giving it another shot with some edited prompting, because I do want it to work better, as it is cheaper. But sure, go off and continue to claim everyone who disagrees with you is nothing but a butthurt troll.

>>563027959
disliking it is fine, being insulting and dismissive of things you admit you dont even care about isnt. Try being productive next time

>>563028182
I asked him to share how he got it to work well. Funny how he did not bother to share. By all means, take your own advice. Notice how the guy I responded to did not get upset by my replies? Yet you're white knighting on his behalf, as if he gives a shit?
Quit responding to me if you have nothing more to offer but whining and accusing me of being a troll.

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Chill, chill. Good vibes.
>>563028397
>Funny how he did not bother to share.
Well, I didn't think you'd be interested since I use instruct and not text completion. But what I do have is a whole lot of examples jammed into every game session at the start, which probably helps guide 'dumber' models like Gemma into making more of the stuff I like, whereas the bigger guys can think up their own fancy prose by themselves.
For text completion, I guess the equivalent of that would be starting off with a paragraph or two already written in a style pleasing to you? Gemma feels like a good little tool to me, but it also won't hold your hand or think out of the box too much, which might honestly be a good thing sometimes if you want it to stay on style.

>>563028996
>Well, I didn't think you'd be interested since I use instruct and not text completion
Sure, but it might be useful for other people for text adventure stuff.
>But what I do have is a whole lot of examples jammed into every game session at the start, which probably helps guide 'dumber' models like Gemma into making more of the stuff I like, whereas the bigger guys can think up their own fancy prose by themselves
Haven't tried examples yet. Just been dumping lore at the start and giving it excerpts of what I want it to continue with. So far it seems to be working somewhat better with those changes I did, may try what you suggested eventually.

>>563027959
I mean, obviously YMMV. But Gemma 4 has been consistently getting good reviews and uses and I have switched away from GLM permanently (I'm not any of the other guys praising it).
>>563025632
>it is somehow the savior of textgen is ludicrous
It's a savior because I can actually run it off OR with privacy and afford it, unlike the ludicrous GLM prices you have shown in your screenshot.
To make it work properly I just switched to instruct mode in Kobold. and set Gemma 4 Thinking preset with "Continue the story from where it stopped." system prompt. Then I use it as autocomplete. It writes reasoning, then the continuation right after. Can't get any simpler than that. Virtually the same thing as story mode for my use case.

>>563030340
For something to be a savior, there can be no mileage that varies. This is just a model that you can use to supplement your use of other models. Like every model that has ever came in the past several years. That's all it is. No need to make it grander than it actually is.

>>563030538
ctrl+F 'savior' and you're the first person who said it lol
all the other post said was 'it's good shit, and it's cheap'

>>563031432
>>562971469
>Google have just solved LLMs
Genuinely quit fucking responding to me if you're just going to um actually like a nerd emoji.
Then you have shitposters like this, who care more about trolling than using any service and effectively do nothing but poison the well with their nonsense. We can all coexist and have fun together if only you fucks quit doing this bullshit and responding again and again and again after the conversation's already fucking over, it's already over, drop it and quit waiting twenty minutes to bump the thread with a fucking conversation nobody else cares about, discuss anything else but rehashing dead conversations
>>562788919
>>562787162
>>562621013

>no no no no Gemma is BAD BAD BAD
>stop talking about it we must all coexist and talk only about what I WANT

>>563031961
>anyone who disagrees with me that Gemma is the best model ever doesn't deserve to enjoy the thread

>>563031961
Do you have a fetish for misrepresenting people and ignoring context? I'd rather you not revive this pointless nonsense.

>>563031814
>tells other people to 'drop it' and stop 'rehashing dead convos'
>goes digging through the previous thread to quote things
lmao actually

>>563032441
You are just as much of a prick as he is, weirdo. Why insist on responding to people who have already told you to stop? Do you sincerely want another dozen replies to be wasted on bullshit nobody else gives a rat's ass about?
Go back to posting Mario smut.

For the love of all that is holy, shut the fuck up and drop it!

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>>563010304
Well now that modules haven't been a thing in years is there any way I could realistically have a reliable TES setting without copying and pasting entire UESP pages?

>>563032648
Come back later when the comment farmer decides to stop comment farming. Then someone might answer your question.

>>563032692
Oh.

>>563032736
To give a more helpful answer, try using a bigger model or browse a site like Chub for a lorebook. With how popular TES is, someone has to have made a lorebook.
Just a bit annoyed that some people tonight can't help but try to out-ass people.

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>>563032830
Genuinely didn't know about chub, I've still been using aetherroom. Thank you.

>>563032692
>>563032830
What are you mad about exactly?

>>563033303
That this guy decided to restart a conversation that had ended on amicable terms: >>563031432 nearly a half hour later to insult people for no reason.
The dude already went and got him to provide helpful advice for text adventure folk to experiment with>>563028996
The original commenter did not care about arguing, he acted like a normal person and answered questions as normal, without shilling.

>>563033447
So you keep helping him out by restarting conversations that ended amicably and telling other posters about them?

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>>563033074
>>563033692
Hot, what's it from?

>>563033674
How about you quit sealioning and fuck off? Nobody cares.

>>563033761
What the hell is that? Weird to see marine biology being brought up randomly.

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>>563034013
He helped me so now I owe him allegiance, fuck off comment farmer.

>>563034306
Fine, I will stop trolling the poor guy and go to sleep since you posted a funny picture.

This is a NAI-only thread.

>>563033752
They're not from anything. I vaguely defined the character and just let the imagegen go wild. It's pretty fun.

https://litter.catbox.moe/0c11cw8xufwq0ihc.png

You now remember when Sam Altman was like "The US must be #1 in open source AI" and dropped the turd that was gpt-oss

>>563011584
>If you got locked in an isolated room for a year straight with no human interaction
That's mostly my life already. Except that I don't have this apartment secured for a year. I might end up homeless ...

>>563033692
That one is cute

Does anyone else have Gemma on SillyTavern generate tokens backwards?
>stats That’s… that’s kind of creepy. But also… kind of nice? No, definitely creepy. But the salmon smells amazing.

Huh, weird. 4chan automatically corrects backward text.

>>563037318
But gpt-oss was good, it was the SOTA for its weight class until recently.

I am really disappointed in the providers for Gemma. They must be doing something weird to make it not work decently with my setup. Anyone have advice to try and get Kimi K2.5 to not think as much?

Parasail is getting gangbanged, I keep getting my Gemma4 requests 429'd due to not enough spots. What other ZDR endpoints, if any, are good?

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what does [gMASK]<sop> do? saw this nigga in my context viewer and I don't know wtf it is

>>563044908
It's also there in base GLM so presumably it's just something that comes from its formatting. Trying to look it up brings up shit about grammar masking and <sop> might have something to do with coding, but realistically I have no actual idea, only that it seems to be necessary in some way.

>>563044908
>the user's instructions
In other words, assistantslop.

Holy shit, Gemma 4 MOGS Xiaolong

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Xialong was telling me that Lu Bu only looks tough and to pursue his ass at Hulao Gate.

To the anon who uses Gemma 4, what is the prompt to remove slop and make the outputs less deterministic?

>>563055387
Really anon? Temperature. Raise it. Did I just get trolled?

>>563055768
okay, I turned the AC off, now what?

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did the memory guide get vandalized?
https://rentry.org/memory-guide

>>563057753
Looks like some faggot has a few links he's snagged.

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>>563011584
do i get to 'cheat' and leverage the universal knowledge the model holds as a tool for learning anything i want? or are we assuming "character specific" knowledge?

anyway the answer is yes, and pic rel.
not to sound like im an IQ flaunting "woe is me being surrounded by idiots" faggot, but i genuinely already get more interesting conversations spitballing an LLM than i do people around me being a "gifted kid" (its adhd with a touch of tism)
i would love to have a sleepy caffeine cat be there and just fucking teach me in between uwu lovey dovey sessions.
hell, give us enough processing power, hardware, and storage space and i could fucking crank out my own synthetic internet with 100% less indians

the fact she could play vidja with me is like 1000% a bonus

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I tried to make a grope prompt and it ended up a lot milder than expected
Still good
(also, how do you even use Kayra, it seems to shit the bed every time I use it. Short sentences despite the long paragraphs in context, the AN and the ATTG)

>>563060091
Discussing theorems and ingesting inhumane quantities of sugar and caffeine with Persi

>>563044908
These are special tokens used in training to indicate the type of completion being predicted. [gMASK] is for "general" completion (as opposed to single word or sentence) while <sop> is short for Start of Phrase. Basically they're boilerplate that aren't strictly necessary but should enforce stability of the output.

>>563048603
Base models now are more assistantslopped than assistant models two years ago.

>>563068063
GLM 4.6 is not a base model.

Holy shit the finetune is so based
How have the schizos been coping and are there any tweaks to the prompt and such ppl have found?

Gemma seems much more prone to combining words together, especially when italics are involved. Make formatting things suck.

>>563076070
We only use NovelAI here.

>>563076519
So you claim, yet there is no evidence to suggest you use ANYTHING, and plenty of conversation here disputes that ALTOGETHER, so, nah. You wrong.

>>563076519
so true oomfie *pegs you*

>>563057753
what the fuck is that

What's the best NAI model for longform schizo novels? I wanna disappear into a world of my own making.

>Her ass was wide and meaty, stretching her tight gray yoga pants to their absolute limit. She peeled the pants down, and her ample bottom jiggled free—two massive, pillowy cheeks that bounced and rippled with every movement. Her thong was buried so deep between them that it was barely visible.

Not bad glm, not bad.

>>563087647
Huemac? Is that you?

>>563084727
Honestly, probably still base GLM. Xialong has better prose but is really ADHD and wants to speedrun to the ending. I'd recommend GLM+the Chapter Summaries script unless you plan on doing the cowriting and steering necessary to get Xialong to slow down and take a deep breath.

is there a customizable stat tracker script for adventure mode yet? I'm not in the analtan discord so I can't dig in there

>>563060091
>>563062894
Forcing Persica to take a shower while Anti-Rain watches.

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>>563088871
>unless you plan on treating the cowriter like a cowriter
Mind blown. Who would have thought that using it as it's advertised is important? Also, if you dump a hefty prompt, it doesn't really have a problem with rushing, and its prose is better, plus reduced sloppy vectors.

>>563090201
There's a script website in the OP that I think is populated with stuff from the discord

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>>563082492
the Memory guide from the wiki for nAI, AID and anything that has it
seems like some cringe kid is vandalizing a bunch of Rentries (probably genAI ones)
not sure if it's reportable

>>563095603
I can't believe the Russian unironically had his mother buy him passes to shitpost on 4chan and now vandalize Rentries.

>>563060091
wouldn't a persicaria be more thematic

>>563096737
well yes, but i like my losers flat.

>>563098252
Jerking it to flat chested women is illegal. She's practically a child at that point. Only big boobs are moral.

Chub just released two separate Gemma and GLM 5.1 finetunes. NAI in shambles.

>>563099435
I swear you're jinxing yourself a little more each time you post stuff like this, I'll take it as an inverse effect to "adding two more weeks to release date every time someone says X"

I just saw a gif of a man pouring milk and cereal into a girl's mouth and taking a spoonful of that breakfast from her mouth. Why does that make me horny?
This, and other niche fetishes, comprise today's philosophical debate.

I write from a first person female perspective because I'm on a level so far above you that you don't understand.

>>563100278
I like to blend third-person past tense narration with perspective shifts to first-person past tense for specific characters.

>>563100278
>i like getting dicked down, you guys wouldn't get it

>>563101541
Most fanfiction is written by women; ergo, most AI use is by women.

>>563100278
same...

>>563100278
t. lesbian rapist

>>563100739
Best of both worlds

>>563100278
Same but first person futa perspective
>so true xister
You know I actually had a long 'therapy' session with Opus where I basically told it: hey, here is this fetish I have, I don't feel trans whatsoever, can you help me figure out what it says about me that I do this, and why I have it? With back and forth, having it ask me refining questions. And it was actually pretty interesting. The end conclusion was that I have cock size confidence issues (I am 6.2 inches, which isn't 'small' but also isn't big like I wish I was), and self-inserting through a futa helps me disassociate and not feel bad like playing a male protag with a huge cock might feel like (because a futa isn't anything like me). I would have been embarrassed telling a real therapist any of that and I doubt they would have even given as good an answer either. It also tracks with why I enjoy monsters on female too.

>>563109070
what ai dynamic story is this you fucking freak

>>563100278
Estrogen could save xer...

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>>563110004
quiet down bitch

Any tips for how to make Gemma work better on Sillytavern?

Chub just released a Gemma 4 fine tune. What is your excuse now Turk?
Should have released Aetherroom when tou had the chance.

>>563114007
based

>>563112637
https://files.catbox.moe/07kqkx.png

>>563100278
I switch between all perspectives and tenses between stories to keep things fun and challenging. First person is flexible, but 2nd person allows for incredible comedy bangers tied into narration. 3rd is cool for voyeur feel.

>>563119146
>>563121124
how do some of you even come up with the porny dialogue you do

>>563121434
You just gotta think horny.

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>>563121434
I just wrote what came off the top of my head. I tried to go with what would sound weird or clunky without going full ESL. And also this: >>563121752

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>>563127951
Time to whip out cocks and measure.

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Between the faggot and whinefaggot, reading this thread makes me want to kill myself.

Anyways, I see so many people complaining about Xialong, and I’m wondering if the average Novelai user is retarded, because honestly, this has been the best RP experience I’ve had with AI in as long as I can remember. I think this is the first time I’ve filled up 100% of the context window in just two days of playing.

Pic related, my previous longest text adventure with glm and my current text adventure. Doesn't seems impressive but damn if it feels better.

>>563116869
Could also be voyeuristic if generating in 1st person, but self-inserting or writing as the other character. Get to read the protag's thoughts and other senses.

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>>563129584
>>563131039
Why must we bully poor little Mario? Doesn't saving the Mushroom Kingdom multiple times count for anything?

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>>563133806
Kino catbox anon.

>>563133874
Thanks, for shits and giggles I decided to put Helluva Boss in the prompt for this one and it seemed to take on that style.

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You have to do so much "co-writing" with Xiadong that you might as well write the whole fucking thing yourself.

>>563136798
Whoops.
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>>563138321
He's a big boy, wew

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>>563142525
No mushroom required.

>>563137058
You are woefully incorrect.

>>563100070
There's an old porn where they put milk and cereal in a girl's ass and another girl eats it.

>>563143227
Does... does it get bigger with a mushroom?

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>>563145206

>>563149541
He fires cum from his coconut gun
it fires in spurts

>>563100000

The architecture for V5 Imagegen is almost done.

>>563145509
What's the magical configuration that stops it from ending everything in the same paragraph?

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put [ Style: shitpost, cringe ] as my prompt with no other guidance, was not disappointed by the results.

>>563154498
Write better.

>>563154498
It's called giving it a prompt. It tends to follow the style of your writing. If you write in a way that encourages it to quicken, it will quicken.
Alas, part of me believes you will ignore this advice and continue treating it like a pure construct model and demand it do all the work for you.

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>>563154589
>>563154621

>>563154621
>It tends to follow the style of your writing.
Then how come there is an antislop script if users don't wrtie slop and the model should follow the style without slop?

>>563154757
>Why did this script come into existence from before the model released?
I see you have decided to sealion once more.
>Why do tools exist to reduce the instances where manual correction may be necessary?
And here I thought you wanted to do LESS work, not MORE. My bad, bro. You just want to complain!

>>563154951
>models follow your writing bros!
>aktually it doesn't b/c it still slops the output even when you write like Tolkien
>pls pay $25 for the service of our shills
k

>Why isn't this glorified random letter machine perfect?!?!?!
Every single model in existence is better served by tools. Every single model in existence requires manual correction at times.
Does this mean Every single model sucks?

>>563155195
The feeble-minded man chooses to interpret phrases in absolutes and demands everything must be absolute. No subtlety exists in his world.

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>>563148838
>>563149541
>>563150023
I kek'd. Good stuff.

>>563148231
It is best not to ask questions with answers that might break your sanity.

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The one thing I hate most about the masses moving to Discord is that far fewer people make and share UI themes, prompts, presets, and neat memory+a/n tricks here.

>>563158649
discord will hopefully die soon. it's even worse than reddit for looking shit up. i don't know why people still gravitate to it, it's a horrible tool for forum use. it's just a chatting program.

>>563162234
I do not want a forum. Imageboards are better, personally speaking. Hate making accounts just to log in to places, and I am not devoting time to hundreds of forums for niche topics and keeping up with friend groups. Nor do I want Discord to die. It has its uses. It's just not an ideal platform for communities associated with specific services and topics such as our threads.
I just want people to cross-post more. I have no interest in splintering communities and grinding them into dust just because I lament the lack of posting.

>>563154382
>new architecture
>look inside
>it's just flux

Not even worth engaging with a hobbyless man.

Better a hobbyless man than a manless hobby.

I don't think a lack of men is an issue here.

Anyone have tips on how to write foreplay?

>>563166172
Depends on what you're looking for particularly. In general you can go ages with just foreplay because you can turn every single act into a whole thing, every article of clothing being removed, every body part being focused on, switching the active and passive roles around, extending everything with dialogue, be it dirty talk or lovey-dovey murmurs between the sheets or whatnot.

>>563100278
Don’t talk to me until you’ve written yuri.

>>563166873
What I normally do just seems so repetitive in the verbiage and description of the anatomy.

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>>563162584
>If you need something, you can ask me on discord.
Ok, cool.
>If you need something, join the server, verify your phone number, set your role, enter the appropriate channel, pick the right thread, no nothing is tagged for easy search, the dedicated bot is down, the mods are on vacation, the users are either busy circle jerking in #general or set to invisible and won't check the #help threads because it isn't their job to curate the information, no you can't message that channel we locked it years ago-
ENOUGH

Are you FUCKING kidding me I've been a loyal paypiggy for years and now your stupid piece of shit payment processor won't let me pay for the privilege of using your half baked ADHD riddled twink dragon FUCK YOU Anlatan fix your fucking shit

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If only there were some way to get people to acknowledge the elephant in the room and understand who is actually at fault.

>>563176489
Some people said PayPal debit cards work if you live in a country where you can get one. And if you don't mind using your normal card then it might be worth giving it another try, my Visa debit never worked with NAI until this month

>>563176859
I wish these parasites were tard wrangled hard.
Would never happen, but I'd be happy if the alternate payment processors being worked on would replace these fuckers.

>>563137058
NAI are secretly anti-AI people grooming us to become actual writers. What do you think the N stands for?

>>563192005
I’m into that shit.

>>563169821
I'd maybe try doing something completely different during foreplay. Have a character develop a sudden fascination with armpits, a particular article of clothing, or maybe someone is particularly sensitive in an unusual spot. Anything to break it up with something else.

>>563192106
what

>>563154510
return to tradition
return to forums

These threads have gotten gayer than usual.

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>>563218991
Xialong, the Chinese twink, has spurned a very yaoi centric mood across the general. One that I very much appreciate.

>>563219281
I wonder why they weren't as gay for Krake as they were for Xialong? Looks wise I mean.

>>563219620
be was baulder's gate 3 levels of faggotry. Such an off-putting flavor of gay. Gay in annoyance only really. Also he looked aids riddled. Xialong is pure (devious) chink kino. He will be my closest courtesan when I unify all of China!

>>563219620
Imagegen was barely a thing when krake came out, remember? A lot has changed since November 2022

>>563219620
xialong's cute, he's just a little guy. and the dragon thing adds something fun to the prettyboy-ness

>>563219281
you sure thats not just venti from genshit fanart?
got an artist for that?

>>563219896
>>563221563
>>563222772
I think both Krake and Xialong are cute.

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You've come far Cao Cao but your reign of terror ends at Red Cliff. Witness the might of my STAND! Eviscerate him, Tóngxìngliàn lóng!

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>>563219620
>>563228310
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Krake was a total cutiepie as well.

How much lore do people tend to have active? I've crunched the numbers, and a decent fourth to a third (depending on the story) of my context is filled with nothing but lore for multiple characters, the settings, pertinent terminology, and such. With this, I have not had any difficulty with it adhering to my preferred speed. I wonder, do people who report difficulties dump significantly less lore and provide it a sparse prompt?

real boipussy hours

>>563229280
around 100k tokens

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>>563226142
I merely wanted the excuse to post things that make me aroused (femboys). R34 says 'nabibutter' and 'xcider'.

The next model avatar must be a gyaru kitsune. Bless. Please. I beg of you.

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aaaaahhhh where's a GOOD Gemma4 endpoint with zero data retention
>NovitaAI
getting gangbanged so hard it's at 1tps
>Parasail
my only option for now, but 10tps is so slow
>AkashML
lmao at fp8 quantizing an already small model no thanks
>Venice
moralfags with a sketchy retention policy

>>563229631
understandable
carry on

>>563228950
he looks like a pirate's concubine

>>563229790
We only use NovelAI here.

>>563232478
Why do you lie like this?

>>563232573
Where are non-NAI story posts?

>>563233416
check inside your anus

>>563229790
(You)r GPU

>>563229631
i wanna suck on money

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>>563237264
Money is filthy

>Xialong logically inferred that because my foreign girlfriend got into a fight at work, she's worried about her visa getting revoked by the Japanese government
What things have you been surprised with at newer models? Not just Xialong, any recent model.

>>563237264
who?

>>563241173
How hard they make me cum.

Why does Mario get the anthro bussy when he clearly only has eyes for Peach?

>>563243657
Surprised he didn't gen a twink version of Peach.

>>563243657
It's more of a power thing than an attraction thing for him. The Mushroom Kingdom is at war with a neighboring furfag fiefdom so Peach often hands prisioners to Mario to torment

>>563228540
Xialong does feel like Kayra on steroids. And that's a good thing.

>>563244534
>steroids
On estrogen you mean

>>563245223
Erm, strictly speaking, estrogen is a steroid hormone.

>>563241173
Even with Erato, the AI had trouble understanding that I wanted to write incest plots unless I spelled it out plainly, either in ATTG or with in-character dialogue. With Xialong, I've observed that he can read my mind and just "get" that I want to write incest without dropping obvious hints.

>>563248107
This nerd needs plapping.

So am I going to have to wait til 2028 before AIs are trained on shit from 2026?

Holy shit how have we all slept on this? Apparently they trained Xialong to write things based on an "Influence:" tag.

>>563248953
That's pretty neat.

>>563249218
alien.dreamtime come to me and let make baby and money suck

>>563249218
QRD?

>>563249218
Hmm? Can't you do that with every model in existence?

>>563250307
There is a difference between something being emergent behavior and something being specifically trained for it.

>>563250373
Can you link the post or whatnot explaining training they did about this 'Influence' tag?

>>563250494
why would i do that lol?

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>>563250289
Supposedly it tells the model to infer the style of a work as an imprint of its style and thematic material into your prose rather than as source material to pull names from.
>>563250494
Zaltys disclosed it. The guy in charge of datasetting. Not sure how much more proof you need than that. It's an undocumented lorebook feature. You can tag a character with Influences: Batman, Sherlock Holmes to give the AI an understanding of their vibe.
>>563250621
Have you tried not being an obsessed shitposter?

>>563244480
They don't seem tormented to me.

Ah shit, Catbox uploads are paused. Was going to share a whole bunch of presets and a theme I found in the deep caverns of the forbidden app.

>>563250764
>NAI slaves don't know that AI aren't deterministic machine and everything will just work(tm).
Must such to pay $25/month for a failedtune and vendor-lock UI.

>>563251263
It's okay. Maybe some other day when shit's working again.

I've spent 25 on both OpenRouter and NAI this month; thank you very much. Because unlike you and the schizophrenic LLM-hating brainworms that fester in your rotten brain and compel you to search 4chan for any mention of NAI and shit up literally every single AI thread in existence, I use every service I enjoy.

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Naughty Russian girls get the spray bottle.

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another hoodoo

Every day I see new ads for AI video-gen services, so many different types, but they're all showcasting like, a realistic looking black woman opening a laptop or something. Why would anyone generate that? Where are the ads showing video-genned anime girls bouncing on cocks?

>>563257328
Those are all over shitty porn sites
the anime goon ones, I mean

>>563257328
>Why would anyone generate that?
its for suicidally empathic HR women who are still on the DEI train about how nigs are like lost puppies and we must hekkin protecc and uplift or whatever.
>Where are the ads showing video-genned anime girls bouncing on cocks
see thats NOT for suicidally empathic HR women.
also because payment processors no likey anime, double no likey anime booba, triple no likey how the money for something pornographic is not going to a rabbi owned website. but that last one is a coincidence that just happens way way way too damn often

also thats how you drag in indians and do you really want to advertise your slop to them?
thats how you get
>I NEED BUZZ
spam like civitai gas

Yikes, weirdo. The actual reason is that most AI companies are run by puritan retards, and others are afraid of the payment processor mafia.

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>>563258028
Are any of them actually good? Last I checked hcg everyone was still using the same old shit like WAN 2.2

So can Xiaofemboy do text adventure or nah?

>>563266602
yes

>>563266602
He's honestly the first NAI model I've used where the text adventures don't feel like a half-finished afterthought, it's great.

>>563257328
It's worse than that. Those vid-gen services tend to go apeshit any time you try to generate something even slightly violent, removing another class of possibilities you could use it for.
The tech bros literally think the ideal AI world is everyone generating "Man smiles slightly ominously as text says 'you will own nothing' appears at the bottom"
or
"man takes out his phone and looks at it"

I've also noticed a lot of these services also don't allow you to refer to race at all, for some reason. I was once genning a parody fake trailer and I wanted to capture that "token black/asian/whatever character" vibe, but whenever I prompted something like "black man" it would just say it was against ToS lol. Racism or too many americans generating blacked porn?

>>563267714
Apparently they started going after anime-style horror games.

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>>563267714
I was on Twitter two years ago and I remember that time when everyone found out Bing's image generator was forcibly stealth injecting shit like "ethnically ambiguous" into their prompts to make its outputs less white. It came out because in a typical case of AIs being retarded it bled into a number of the images it generated.

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>>563252659
naughty russian girls get UOOOOOHHHHH ToT ToT ToT

>>563264072
I've never seen any that blew my socks off, let's put it that way.

Was trying Gemma4, felt like it was just 'meh', not getting what the fuss is. Then I raised the temperature way up to 1.4. Much better now. Definitely suggest doing that if you haven't already, Gemma-chan is better a bit unhinged

>>563251916
Second this, I look for quality, whenever it is

>>563266602
Yes
>>562907150

>>563272891
But which one is more evil?

>>563289525
More temperature definitely seems like a default thing in today's age of assistants and magic question answering machines.

>https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/openai-ceo-sam-altman-molotov-cocktail-house-headquarters-rcna273694
Which one of you was this?

doing my yearly check:

Whats the ETA on me able to feed a pen and paper system to an AI + adventure module and it can roleplay the whole module with perfect memory and rules?

>>563306735
Never ever

>>563308373
Ai still so bad despite having massive data centers and power consumption?
Seems like a dead end

>>563251007
If anyone can mindbreak a furry it'd be Mario. Just look at Bowser.

>>563031814
>Genuinely quit fucking responding to me if you're just going to um actually like a nerd emoji.
Like, you don't need to read my posts if you don't like them. I can, and will, talk the way I want to talk.

That will be all.

>>563306735
>AI + adventure module
>roleplay the whole module
adaptations anon's lorebooks
>with perfect memory and rules
see ya next year

>>563311025
Thanks, I'll keep practicing having gay sex with men until then.

>>563308551
It's not that AI is too bad, you're just having unrealistic expectations from an LLM

>>563313448
Problem with LLMs is that unless you're using them for some normoid activity like making ghibli images of yourself, you're fighting for scraps of usefulness. Sure, they're nice for some Karen with 5 inch nails to make quick advertisements on Facebook for her handmade soaps made of cow refuse, but using them for fun requires lots of masochistic autism.

>>563314090
>you're fighting for scraps of usefulness
Usefulness =/= Fun
LLMs are useful as fuck and I suspect that people that say they're useless are actually unemployed. They save a lot of time unless you're trying to make them do absolutely all the work for you, which is retarded.

>>563314317
>actually unemployed
You're damn right I am!

>>563306735
depending on how much you're willing to research and keep track of on your own end maybe you could hamfist a limited scope Mage thing

Any prompts about paying a buddy to suck you off while you play video games?

>The hero gets buttfucked by the dragon
Retry.
>The hero gets buttfucked by the dragon
Retry,
>A beautiful, descriptive paragraph of the lair flowing with gorgeous prose and scintillating details and then the hero gets buttfucked by the dragon.
What daddy Xiao Xiao wants daddy Xiao Xiao gets.

>>563324274
you WILL fuck the dragon

Xiao is MY husbando. NOT YOURS.

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>>563331083
With AI he can be all of ours

Wardrobe Manager script: https://litter.catbox.moe/z2v6uxktsy0t891n.naiscript
Lucky 8 preset: https://litter.catbox.moe/y1u0e68tk4y253ld.preset
Cyberpunk theme: https://litter.catbox.moe/gnqs280e4okrd1np.naitheme
Low Tide preset: https://litter.catbox.moe/8mj1u18yaa9cmtxg.preset
High Tide preset: https://litter.catbox.moe/zyvlgpvdttvsmiet.preset
Documentation for Low and High Tide: https://litter.catbox.moe/nwslx8v51hflv4z1.md
Catbox is still down for me, so I had to use Litterbox.

>>563335452
Fucking catbox is pissing me off lately.

>>563335452
Was having issues with catbox too.
>upload something
>share it
>it's 404

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>>563334828
Sorry anon it doesn't work like that. He's my boytoy and mine alone. Buzz back to the last model and never reply to my posts again.

>>563338436
>cheating on your husbando
FOR SHAME

I've been playing with gayanon's disdain in charcoal prompt.

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>>563338563
I have an unquenchable thirst. Therefor I have many MANY boytoys anon.

>>563338563
its not cheating if its a harem.

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>>563338581
Haughty French twinks really are a special thing.
>>563331083
>>563338436
>>563338726
Jeez, that's greedy. You better start thinking about becoming a bit more comfortable with sharing lest they get instigated to start unionizing for better working conditions.

>>563338726
if you are in an open relationship, what he does is none of your business :)

>>563335452
>>563337673
Yeah I'm getting a 404 not found for the files, can't access anything

>>563348590
Damn it all to fuck.

>casully built up for the sex scene
>80% of context are gone
>I'm not even fuck the first girl yet
Turk... Where are 1M context..

>>563354682
DeepSeek V4
Two
More
Announcements

Imagine whining about such a non-issue.

>>563354682
We used to cum with 8k context (or even less). 1M is unironically a meme for story writing/RP.

>>563356076
Shit, AID had sub-2k, didn't it?

>>563357448
Wasn't the peak of it like 700 tokens?

>>563356076
>>563357448
Wasn't the token count 500 or something or is someone just fucking my balls?

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>>563356076
I have never once seen a long context model that didn't shit itself if you actually used most or all of that context.

>>563358331
Most models are assistantslop. How often do you chat history worth 1M? That's how little data the models was trained on. NAI models are the first (and only?) ones that can handle full context since you have full library of books to train them on.

>>563357689
>>563357693
GPT 2 had a maximum of 1024 and Davinci had a maximum of 2048
Pretty sure AID used less than that for both, maybe 512 tokens

>>563359418
it was 1024
there was also something funky with the output tokens where it was split in 3

>>563359520
Yeah you're right, I found this old summer dragon era github with the info
https://github.com/valahraban/AID-World-Info-research-sheet/blob/main/AID%20WI%20Research%20Sheet.md

>start new job
>coworker has the same name as love interest in my current prompt
>feel all awkward trying to write the story
Anybody else?

>>563359269
Aren't Xiao Long using onl 1/10th of the full GLM context?

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>>563268181

Man, people like this are why we can't have nice AI things
this is the chatgpt history of the guy who shot up a college last year where chatgpt came up with a 12 step plan for shooting up the school
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1_1wPfF5p5tY4bWMrJtHueOXPCL0KTrx_c51msXkrlyA/

>>563360949
Yes, that's why I keep having to use more and more obscure names

>>563365061
dont click this link
its dolphin porn