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dead game genny?
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>archived at 519 posts
VOLVMES
when will wowcg migrate to /vm/ with other dead games?
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it's time to move to /vm/
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been raiding for like 5 weeks, got almost all my bis for the phase now + enchants + epic flying. how are we farming gold bros? i've been getting primal nethers and crafting my 100-200g recipes, but i can only get so many primals. i want to help my buddies get their epic flying but just selling crafted materials is too slow
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>insane how good brd/lbrs is compared to everything else in the game
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best vanilla raid
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there isnt much of a reason to raid tbf like you get gear so you can... pvp and farm gold easier?
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>thread 404'd
volumes edition
bluds still think classic+retail will save it too kek double u
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5'0
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where is he?
did he meet a new single mom
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How to fix TBC anniversary
>All level 70 normal dungeon loot can be purchased for Badges of Justice. (Sethekk N, Black Morass N and so on)
>All HC dungeon bosses drop 1 additional item from their loot table.
>Bosses in Gruul's Lair and Magtheridon's lair drop 1 additional item and 1 additional class token.
>You can buy a mystery bag of random high level herbs/ores/leathers for Badges of Justice
The tank/healer shortage is because once you've gotten your first 80 badges or so there is zero reasons to do dungeons. I haven't done daily HC on my tank for 2+ weeks.
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/wowcg/ is dead because we are all simping here
https://www.twitch.tv/xxgwendolina
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So the solution is to make it eaven easier for them to get gear and not do heroics? Lol come on dude, its piss easy to get gear and badges yet you fucking want them to practically give the hc gear to you the moment you ding 70
Fuck off
Roll a tank/healer is the solution to the problem. Everyone just wants to aoe sneed and watch their numbers go up
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why is this general so dead?
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>>563221783
LIke all gay progressives, you never answer the question. You deflect and try to point blame at something else. In this case, the government. You still are a pedo freak and you play a game game and support pedo jews.
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why hasn't anyone posted a single in game screenshot?
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>>563222575
NOOOOOO YOU CANT RATE DRAENEI THAT HIGHLY THEY ARE A SHIT RETCON MEME RACE NOOOOOO
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sort of, the Draenei already existed sort of as lost ones and the dude in the Blasted Lands, they just made a new model based off of the Eredar. Like how they changed the High Elf models in game to be all Blood Elf-esque.
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>. Also I need 5k gold
I don't know how you don't achieve it just doing all the quests + selling greens you get. I actually don't understand how people are broke, are you guys just constantly dying and spending it on repairs?
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I had a Slave Pens (normal since I was only 63) run ruined by people I assume were boosted because I don't believe people who leveled this much could be THIS bad at the class. I didn't think it was actually possible for a pally to be so terrible at maintaining aoe threat, a fucking paladin of all classes. He would drop consecration then fucking run out of it and thus pull the mobs out too.
I have no proof this guy was boosted, and yet how could a non-boosted person not know the very first thing about paladin tanking?
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are you okay troondle troondle are you okay troondle
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>>563240332
it might not be for MoP, like the Bloodwater elemental that was datamined from MoP recently but isn't actually in the game. it's most likely for the Chinese titanforged servers or something else entirely and they're just using the MoP build to test it for whatever reason.
that or they're going to launch a bunch of cash shop shit for MoP with Siege which would be weird considering they've basically abandoned the game mode otherwise.
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The undercoins from sod were great and they kept people playing the game. It kept people doing endgame dungeons, it kept them doing molten core when naxx was out, it let fresh characters basically get carried on MC because people would just blast through it for coins
It let geared players buy bags of materials so they could get some gold
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Basically badges. They dropped from lvl 55+ dungeons, and later got added to old raids (despite aggrend saying it would never happen because aggrend is a retarded fat cunt)
You could buy toys with them, and some decent starting epics or relics/liberals/totems. But also crates that had a few random high end materials in them.
As the game progressed they added extra things to the vendor like full T1, and T2 bracers/boots, and they updated the crates to have AQ mats/ZG coins etc
So geared people carried old raids or did dungeons to buy crates to sell mats
Sod was so good, shame it has the same problem all "classic" versions have: the people playing it are insufferable, greedy,entitled soulless meta golem parsetrannies
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>the people playing it are insufferable, greedy,entitled soulless meta golem parsetrannies
amen
give me an RP server ffs. sure the people are cringe in a different way but its such a good filter against the abrasive fuckniggers infesting this game
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>>563279002
All they have to do ij anni is to ensure that people roll tanks and healers
There are tons of people leveling, they have to figure out a way to appeal to the crowd that only plays dps.
Loot issues for newbies is a phase 4-5 problem (though t4 content is so easy i dont think it will ever be a problem in tbc)
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>>563279325
Never gonna happen, see my last paragraph as to why.
>REEEEEEEEEE DID YOU JUST PULL AN EXTRA MOB? THAT'S NOT OPTIMAL
>WHY ARENT YOU BIS FULLY E'CHANTED? SHIT TANK
>browns and pinks reserving your loot despite being DPS because "well I'm going to tank soon" (they never do)
>zugniggers spamming aoe the moment consecrate goes down, charging into mobs to fuck up your corner pulls so you lose agro followed by TANK NOOB
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Some heroics hit so hard that people become self conscious and think that they are bad tanks or not def capped enough or whatever
Resistance gear is more important than people realise even for heroics if you are undergeared
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Is TBC just the broke bitch expansion? I've never spent more gold trying to keep up than in any other expansion... Crafted gear, enchants, consumes, gems, rep items, profession leveling... I've spent well over 5K by now and I haven't even stocked up on consumes for the rest of the expansion and they're bound to blow up in price when layers start dropping off.
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Kungen is Yung Lean of WoW
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The absolute state of this game
>login to do a heroic 5man
>guy invites me
>clear trash to first boss
>tank is full t4 geared
>keeps losing threat every pull even when dps plays chill and follows marks
>get to boss
>tank dies
>check healer
>hes wearing lvl 60 items and some lvl 70 stuff with no gems or enchants
>try second attempt at boss
>hunter md pulls when we just ressed
>altf4s
>we wipe
>group disbands
>hearth
>log out
the players are the worst part of this game.
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>>pugs in an mmo
>>gets the pug experience
>>rage quits
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>polish
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sounds comfy
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>>563303943
>and I had an alt to farm herbs and craft flasks
Good fucking luck trying to do that now. Thirdworlders are all flying around on 280% speed mounts.
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Hello friends, I need spoonfeeding for every decision I make, so I have a question.
Now installing TBC Anniversary. I was even more retarded 20 years ago so I didn't know what I was doing back then, and in Classic I skipped TBC entirely, so it's all new to me.
What professions are worth getting? I'll probably play a Warlock. Is Mining a good money maker, or would flight form druids cuck me out of all gatherables? Is Engineering the quality pick is has always been? Does Tailoring matter at all as a cloth caster in TBC? Or is there some other choice I am missing
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I am so sick of hearing big name and small shitty ass dick riding content creators saying that the community in TBC is so much 'less skilled than last time,' no one fucking cares unc we play for fun
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Pic extremely related for TBC
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>>563321716
the usual suspects are warrior hates
>green parsers
>subhuman non-Whites
>generally morons
I'm in an actually good guild and yes we do run 3 warriors per raid, but they are all top 3 dmg done overall in every raid atm, unless they get bad rng then maybe a hunter is top and they are 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Also warriors get glaive prio, rogues will never see glaives unless they are a good pvper that is going for gladiator, 2 warriors 1 hunter have received dst so far. You may all proceed to cope and seethe about it.
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I hate streamers/content creators for wow so much its unreal
>they influence devs to do retarded shit so they can clipfarm (hardcore)
>once one of their simps tells them about a good gold farm they take advantage of it for a couple of weeks off-stream then post a video about it to effectively kill the farm
>they are basically beggars/whores for money
total streamer/youtuber death.
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dang..
I'm just not wanting to end up cucked by supply costs later on. Warlocks seem like a shit class to PvE farm, so I feel like I've gotta adopt some money making professiongot distracted watching slop on YouTube and now it's late, so I'll start WoW tomorrow
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Classic + is actually gonna be fun to play and I look forward to it.
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anyone else here that used to play many years ago and has just gotten worse at the game as they got older?
>used to be 2400 rating in original wotlk
>2300-2400 rating in original cata
>came back for classic 2019 did some wpvp did ok
>tried arena this fresh
>hardstuck 1900
is this just reaction time and awareness getting worst because im older now?
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people played just way way worse back then
getting older doesnt help but the reason for you being stuck low raiting now is more likely that people just play way better and only play when they actually have a real comp
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engineering should've been a class, tinker, and it should have been gnome and gobbo exclusive,
at the moment the iconic gnome class is mage and old man humans just look so much cooler, lock gnome makes no fucking sense, everybody knows this.
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I dont wanna be that "everyone is worse now" guy but holy shit, these people are either bots are severely mentally stunted
Grouped with 2 mages to do some quests
>stands there doing nothing, waiting 5 seconds to cast frostbolt, walks up to mob, arcane explosion
>The other would mount up, run into a mobs, and blizzard them
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https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/blizzard-wins-injunction-against- turtlewow-private-server-ordered-to -cease-and-381192
blizzBULLS, we've won
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>>563341906
why? you've got no downtime and you're constantly at max hp/mana so you can easily respond to a gank attempt.
only problem is, 40% of hordenigs are immune to your cc. hopefully the racials get a nerf in classic+
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>no one is playing on your meme pvp server little fella
ah yes, world of peacecraft, my favorite game. nothing helps me roleplay in this roleplaying game like watching the enemy faction slaughter my faction's NPCs in front of me while I watch and jerk off
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any ausfags here?
thinking about getting back into the game, and heard the aus based servers were nuked. Are there any decent guilds on dreamsythe? I don't really wanna be on a pvp realm with bad ping
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im bored and thinking about coming back I have a semi geared bear tank did 3 clears but it was a pain in the ass dealing with basically running raids because I was the tank. I want to play boomkin how hard is it to get into pugs for them right now? is it still a instant join even if my gear is just crap from the ah and vendor pvp gear?
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Yeah imagine if the classic team gave enough fucks to just add these with tbc resources to the badge vendor
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I hope not.
I hope blizztard grows a nutsack and just straight up goes:
Buying gold? 3 month ban that builds up to a perma for repeat offenders
Selling? Perma
Boosting? Not allowed. Play the game.
Gdkp? Banned
Selling tank services? Banned.
Imagine a server where you little faggots actually have to play the game.
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Tramadol anon here again.
That was the best fucking sleep I had in years. Woke up with energy levels of a young zoom zoom instead of the usual cryboom lethargy. back pain completely gone. Guess the tramadol gave me the serotonin/melatonin that I needed...
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No. The best we can hope for is the removal of scarcity. This hopefully kills any incentive for thirdies to plague the game up. It was largely solved in SoD with the undermine real bag, don't know why they haven't implemented it in TBC yet. Imagine getting 3-4 black lotus for running a few dungeons then being able to craft 6-8 flasks.
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Why is no one doing scholomance? I liked that dungeon
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>reinstall WoW
>get through character creation, then onto the hardest part, a name
>try 5 names, all taken
>"Creation of that type of character is currently throttled."
Are you fucking kidding me
I apparently have to 10-30 minutes to TRY and make a fucking character, because I couldn't find an available name immediately
Fucking hell Blizzard.
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>>563386669
How are you managing to blame me, for them adding a system where you get locked out of the game for checking if names are available several times (I wasn't spamming for hours, literally about 5 attempts)
I have literally never seen this in an MMO, this is ridiculous
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ok I'm in
Holy shit when did this game get the Edit Mode thing from retail, this feels AMAZING
I remember having to fuck around with so many addons to do such basic things, and even then it barely worked the way I wanted. It's made like 5 addons completely unnecessary for me.
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>>563373706
>Imagine getting 3-4 black lotus for running a few dungeons then being able to craft 6-8 flasks.
it's funny because they also implemented this in peaknight where there's a crafting item used in all professions (including flasks) that you can only get from running endgame group content. We'll probably see something similar in classic+
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they did this in SoD all consumes were so easy to get mats for they were dirt cheap. they have to do this in c+ too. fuck all the thirdies and their bot farm mafias.
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Ok guys, how fucked am I?
I stopped playing @ lvl 68, just getting back now.
Idk if I'm too behind but honestly I just wanna try to get T4 or something, farm reps and that's it, the sweats probably won't let me advance much further.
I assume the economy is pretty much ruined by the bots all over again and I don't wanna buy gold or waste hours of my time farming gold just for consumables.
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I've always played Alliance in Classic, I only ever played Horde in Retail (which obviously has revamped Cata quest zones).
Came back to the game and figured I'd play Horde, but holy cow Durator feels so dull and lifeless compared to good old Elwynn, or even Dun Morogh. Do Horde zones get comfier?
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Yeah the blood elf zones (and blood elves themselves) are very pretty, but it didn't look exactly easy to get there as an orc and I didn't really want to roll a belf just for the zones (maybe I should have)
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Alliance = comfy but slow
Horde = fast but dull
Honestly just lvl in belf zones, finish ghostlands, you'll get a really nice weapon and skip most of the dull areas.
If you don't like the barrens you can lvl in silverpine etc, but if you wanna skip so much you might as well play alliance.
Lvling in the barrens and all the BS that happens there including barrens chat is a rite of passage every hordie must endure.
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>>563399094
What are you talking about? lmao
Go to Org entrance.
Then you'll find the zeppelin tower to your right, take the zep to Undercity
As soon as you go through UC gates, to your right you'll find a place with a red orb, click on it
Grats, you're in Silvermoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbG3uo8qhEI
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>>563399918
Okay thank you, you convinced me I'll go to the elf lands soon
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But my Orc is a woman!! ... unless.. haha..
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>>563405803
Man being orc must be tough
>your homeplanet, where you were living in peace with nature, gets invaded by the dranei
>they try to oppress and genocide you
>fight back and earn your freedom
>try to make a new living in another world
>humans refuse to share with you, and try to genocide you once again
>during this war, your planet gets blown up
>humans then proceed to enslave the orcs that were left behind
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Is there a sane person ITT that can explain why anyone would come and post in this general? It's the exact same posts every thread EXACT SAME
>goonpost
>some twitch stream link
>something about polish
>something about a troon
EVERY GENERAL SAME POSTS why not just kys instead of posting here?
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>>563412452
It is good when the game is popular, but as people lose interest we are left with the autistic dregs who just spam the nonsense you are mentioning. Also there is no other place to discuss wow. the official forums are filled with reddit cucks.
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>>563406606
It explains why orcs are so angry in general. Orcs burn and pillage everything they see and rape all the elf and human pussy they find before murdering them, that's pretty much canon, specially the Warsong clan. The nelves are worried about a different kind of logging.
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>>563402092
You should feel bad.
If you're gonna do that, say so right at the beginning
"Hey guys, everyone ok with me rolling need on caster gear?"
Or, make your own group and be clear about it as you invite people
I swear that most players have 0 social skills, I started to achieve so much more in this game just by stepping up and saying things that people are afraid to say or making my own groups.
Most people are extremely introverted and will just do whatever you're saying or give you all the gear.
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>>563419020
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24094/heart-fire-warhammer
I rolled for my resto offspec. I mean I get it's mostly for ret meme specs but it's still much better than what I had before
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TBC is the quintessential third worlders expansion. Absolute perfect conditions for them to shit up the game to the point where no one can compete against them so they can farm unmolested all so they can RMT.
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>Started a gnome back in 2019
>Friend made a druid
>"I'll just run over"
>Learn mining and engineering along the way
>Get to Teldrassil
>Do the small starting area
>Branch out in the the main area
>"wait... where's all the copper nodes?"
>Look it up
>Teldrassil has none
WHAT THE FUCK.
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>>563431743
Teldrassil is the best/fastest place to level 1-100 herbalism in the game. And almost everything in Teldrassil is skinnable too. The whole zone is densely packed with skinnable animals.
Teldrassil is a tree and because it was made back when Blizzard had some modicum of care for the setting, they made it logically follow that a tree wouldn't have mining. That's why all of the entry level mining/blacksmithing/engineering trainers are in Darkshore instead, and I'm pretty sure the NPCs even remark about these professions being damaging to the environment because they were still written as hippy elves back in the day.
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>>563438212
nonny needs stress relief..
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Everyone ITT. Do the needful.
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>>563444530
If you care about rep grinding, you're going to have a rough time. Otherwise just get the bare amount of gear needed for heroics then get some heroic dungeon/badge gear and walk into Kara. I'd tell you to just walk into Kara now but groups will not take you unless you're at least wearing some pre bis despite not needing any of it.
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Turtie status?
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>grifting blizzdrones are happy about Turtle because "ploos is closer and closer"
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>>563464461
>one costs money to play
>one doesn't
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>>563477752
because it's not 2005 anymore, and drugs are needed to reach the same level of dopamine and wonder.
I try not to drink anymore, but I have an absolute fucking blast playing drunk. Even questing becomes joy
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One xpac away from absolute kino.
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>>563492235
It's mainly the dark runes, greens and raw coin that add up. Dark runes go for 14g on my server and they will continue to go up in SSC/TK. I don't know the specifics of the pally farm as I just crank it as a geared fury warr
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>>563422493
it's genuinely better because it encourages communication in the game rather than merely showing up for a raid and having it accessible right then and there and the bosses actually seeming dangerous with the other faction there
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>>563492235
If you're just doing the normal 210 pull then it's around 200-250g/hr. If you do the live side pulls then it jumps to around 350. Live side requires decent raid gear though. If you can't kill them within a min or two they all start stunlocking you due to the new anti boost mechanic (thanks Iran).
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>>563183081
Leveling progress takes a nosedive right around then and the novelty of your first set of skills wears off. I don't know about you but when I force myself to 20 I get a burst of interest until 30 and then the cycle continues.
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I have a new hobby, logging into SoD every once in a while and just walk around major cities. The few dozen people online usually freak the fuck out, constantly targeting me, following me or whispering me asking if I'm new and if I need gold or bags.
It's cute and sad at the same time, some people just can' let go
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>guys should i spend a week or two leveling a character (or paying 60 bucks to boost it to 58 then a week leveling)
>then is it worth gearing that character to get the epic flight quest done (because you need gear to do sh hc even at p2)
>then should i spend 5k to train epic flying to use epic flight form?
>so that i can spend time farming herbs to then make back all the gold for the time and effort and gold i spent?
>huh? is it worth it guys?
Did your mom take tylenol weed and drank alcohol while she had you? Then did she push in your soft spot on your head and bounce your head around like a basketball?
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>Play Alliance
>Literally win every BG
>Play H*rde
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https://x.com/AggrendWoW/status/2042754447529644243
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Million times this. I rolled horde because the pvp gear looks better but I regret doing this every day.
I swear some horde players have severe retardation. They can't read, can't follow basic instructions, constantly complaining about problems of their own making.
Average AB
>yooo guise!! ALL BS gogogogogo!!!!!
>yoooooo whut, we lost LM and farm?? Noooo leave BS and come back!!
>yooooo whut, we lost BS??? And the other stuf???
>Allianz 5 cap??? U GUYS SUK"
If faction change was a thing I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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Honestly comfy experience, retards banning together to beat something despite their retardedness is the reason to play the game. If you don't like it, you should probably try retail.
As a healer I can't stand this new experience of retail brained retards who are trying to min-max their way through a dungeon by doing "spell cleave" non-sense. I've joined 5 spell cleave groups and every single one of them is dogshit and goes the exact same way.
1. Tank is a paladin who has no idea how to maintain threat and has no idea what size group constitutes as a consistent good pull that won't absolutely mog the groups ability. Also has zero communication ability, doesn't inform group what he's pulling or to where or when.
2. Pulls enormous group
3. Threat changes (paladin does not manage it)
4. Mob instantly tears through shield I throw on and one shots mage even when im spamming flash heal.
5. Mob instantly tears through second shield and one shots other mage or tank finally gets threat but is overwhelmed immediately because my focus was on other mage.
6. Group wipes
7. either rinse repeat or someone leaves
I have not experienced one instance of this working as intended. I get the impression a bunch of these retards saw a streamer do it and now they think they can do it. They want to trade ez consistency for gogogo and it's beyond maddening.
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Wowheadsays that levelling as Destro Lock is a bad idea. But for me, I don't really want to manage multitarget dotting, or do boringass Voidtanking with life drain.
Is Destruction really that bad for solo levelling Is it just the mana related downtime that sucks? Spamming shadow bolt sounds more comfy, things die way before my dots have their full effects.
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>>563530992
you sit on your ass sipping söylent after every fight like a m*ge but you don't get free water, anyone who tries to level as destro gives up in few levels and goes back to draintanking which is actually efficient and has zero downtime
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It doesn't matter if you're a poorfag or a moralfag, gold is dirt cheap and people that buy it are automatically a million miles ahead everyone else. I don't like the way things are either, but if you wanna play classic anniversary, that's just the way it is. You can cry about it here or on plebbit, doesn't matter. Brown latinos will keep farming gold and ruining the economy.
So, you can go ahead and boost a druid, then waste dozens of hours getting lvl 70 + farming mats and gold for epic flying, then dozens more of mindless farming just to get 1k gold
While I can spend 10 bucks which is literally nothing nowadays, saving myself all those hours.
And what will I do with all the time I just saved? Actually PLAY the game.
But don't worry lil bro, send me your name and I'll make sure to buy your stuff whenever I'm grabbing more consumables to raid, just to help ya out.
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Just get it from reputable people, trade items with the seller, not just gold (like a stack of food or some other shit) and don't talk about the transaction in game, most of the people that get banned are due to that.
That being said, you will never get perma banned since blizzard doesn't ban people for that anymore, you get a 2 week ban and that's it. 2 weeks is less than what most people will take to get 1k gold anyway.
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>>563542510
I completely agree with you. If we're all even and there are no chink bots teleporting between nodes, making you waste 30+ minutes just to find a node that wasn't tapped yet
I love doing that on private servers like turtle wow, but classic? Nope
If that's your idea of fun, by all means go ahead
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Don't get it wrong. They farm grey items that they vendor to create the gold in the game to sell you. Playing the economy with rare profession mats is just getting back the gold they already created to resell to you.
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>>563553092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzf3NqSeVAg
Take me back bros
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He was totally and unequivocally correct, we all thought we did but we don't.
>level boost sales through the roof, no one wants the ''MEANINGFULL JOURNEY THROUGH AZEROTH''.
>gold sales from g2g through the roof, no one wants to grind gold.
>people asked for mega servers, no more small community feeling where you recognize players
>honor system changes, lol.
>lfg tool
You just don't. You never did.
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I apologize, ponytail-sama. You were so right.
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Posting belf as a gesture of good faith. I'll do whatever it takes to get twinked out by anon...
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>>563556951
Kek, no wonder he went silent
He is looking forward to getting drafted to eyeran
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Blizz as always trying to maximize profit from botters
>the amount of loot in dungeons determined by the number of players
theyre just forcing the thirdie botters to have 5 bot accounts per instance ID they are farming, thus increasing their sub profit from botters 5x. Genius. This will fix nothing about the economy, just help blizz inflame their sub numbers from botters. gg.
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>this post triggered the toilet troon
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I am leveling every class in tandem and using all my own profession gear with each profession spread across the classes. My paladin just hit 20 and got the sindorei warblade in Ghostlands, feeling pretty fucking strong now. I got a prot warrior at 18 that just ran through a soulful RFC group. Everything else is spread out at lower levels. I wonder if I'll get everything to 70 before TBC ends. Not using faggy guides, just doing every single quest.
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>many years ago
>me noob solo questing around with shit talents and gear
>make friend along the way
>foreign but has near perfect english and same sense of humour
>helps me out with quests and some gold and advice
>we play together every night for a long time
>running around questing and joking and laughing and sharing stories and getting into wpvp hijinks with alliance
>he suddenly isn't able to play with me much anymore
>weird
>give up asking if he wants to do something after a few weeks because he says he can't nearly every time
>eventually notice he's always standing around in city with a fembelf priest doing nothing
>he introduces me
>she won't even say hello to me
>friend gradually stops talking to me
>lose contact
>i'm alone again
>it's over
>quit game soon after
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>Me when I ask "Enhancement or Elemental shaman?"
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>people are twinking at 69 because it's the only insane gear power gap available that has queues and isn't contested
>people have given up on raiding they just want to flex on the last remaining people levelling in the game
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>plays it anyways
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>>563604350
You're a retard fighting for the wrong thing. There's a reason why people buy gold and it's because of dumb decisions made by the community.
Everyone shilled 24/7 over and over and over again demanding the death of GDKP, hyping about buffs and extensive usage of consumables for piss easy content etc, which all lead to the situation we're in right now.
Want things to be different? Fix all the above. That massively drops the necessity for gold by like 80% overnight. If people don't need as much gold, gold sellers will move to some other game, taking the bots with them.
People will farm for gold or play the AH here and there like we always did and we will be fine.
But nope, let's just permaban gold buyers! Yep that'll teach em.
That mentality did wonders with drugs, nobody buys crack anymore now thats illegal to do so.
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There isn't even a huge need for gold right now. The people buying gold to fund gems/enchants right now are just short-sighted ADHD reddit dads who are already crying that they're bored of P1 and there isn't anything to do.
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>love 'nilla
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>always think about playing
>never actually play because of the playerbase
At least not playing is free. Guess I'm just nostalgic for something that will never be again because the minmax has been discovered - even if it's entirely unnecessary.
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>>563608314
Just don't care about others anon
It's hard I know, but just do your own thing.
Enjoy your time leveling, make some friends, raid casually just for the vibes. Don't listen to streamers/youtubers trying to fill you with FOMO.
That's what I do, nobody in my raid team uses consumables, freak out about buffs or give a shit about anything. And we still clear stuff just fine, maybe not in the first week but we never finish a phase without clearing all the content at least once.
If you don't play but constantly get bombarded by all the trannies and sweats vomiting fomo all day, you'll just tarnish the memory of our beloved game for no reason.
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>make some friends
That's the hard part. Established groups are hard to break into as a newcomer outsider like me. I had one, but that was five years ago, when I was still living on neetbux and had all the time in the world. Now I have a degree and a job and our schedules wouldn't match even if the group still exists. It kinda broke up during very early classic since people wanted vastly different things.
But, maybe. Sinking time into WoW again and trying to find a pearl of a group in the sewer of that community is probably time better spent than doomscrolling and shitposting anyways.
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>player needs the final boss' drop, just to DE it
>I was the only person who could have used it, and I wanted it
>talks shit in French
This is my third day playing this game again. And my first group experience.
I fucking hate these people, fuck the French.
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I always came back to these threads because I experienced a sense of belonging
But after 20 years of playing this game, I realize what a waste of fucking time it is and I'd rather be doing ANYTHING else than waste another moment(haven't played since week 1 of TBCC release)
I wasted THOUSANDS of hours, now 37 and, although I'm doing alright, I could've done and experienced so much more
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>$15 from every bot sub
It's not just that.
>useless ban waves forces botters to sub all over again
>gold buying works as a retention mechanism, since instead of quitting because you can't farm enough gold, you can just buy it
Also, notice all the changes being made to "fight against boosting"
They completely kill dungeon farming or at least make it very hard for the average guy to do so. A million people complained about it and blizzard completely ignored all feedback.
Why?
They don't want you to have legit gold. For them, it's best to have you buy gold and keep the system going.
This is what some people don't understand, they think blizzard is just lazy and naive when that's not what's going on
This is why every move you'll ever see regarding bots and gold sellers will be just a slap on the wrist, with mild 2 week bans if you're very unlucky.
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>After 18 lockouts finally got my leishen trinket
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asians (honorary whites) use an army of bots to farm gold
shitskins (peruvians, iranians, argentinians) unironically manually farm strat for 200g per hour
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rip twow, the best wowclassic experience i ever had and its not even close
dont give blizz your money
convicted sexual assault devs and washed plebs cashing out on a 20yr old franchise
priv servers are the way
lets find a new one chat
we can do it chat
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the WoW experience is giving all your time and support to a tank, only for them to act like a cunt and bitch behind your back.
I've only met (1) tank whilst levelling so far that was a team player and it was a dual-spec human paladin.
They'll tell everyone what to do but if they make a mistake it's YOUR fault.
In Vanilla it was just warriors like this, now it's all the tanks.
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>rogue doing 340 dps, Shaman 600, mage 700
>I'm healing 1,3k as a tree and after 2 wipes we finally finish OHB heroic
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warriors:
>uhh I'm providing a special service by showing up here hello! I deserve all the gear, for uhh, payment, pvp and pve, everything in the game, so I can sell it, disenchant it and funnel it.
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>ackshually I'm a hybrid class and I haven't made my mind up yet so just give me all the gear in case or I'll have a fit OK?
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>>563670195
I mean every single class has roughly the same reskinned toolkit apart from a few features like stealth, pets, armour. The game needs a lot more non-combat class-exclusives to make it feel like an MMO and not just Team Fortress 2 battlegrounds.
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>all the gold selling shitskins crying about the dungeon changes
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Usually whenever I see a nelf male, they have a cat for shadowmelding with, I haven't played Alliance much, are these the blood elf females of the Alliance? A lot of them tend to be temperamental like gnome players, although not all.
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Fucking niggers I just leveled a paladin to get some comfy gold farm so I can gear him nicely and now this shit happens, while everyone else had months to enjoy the free gold.
Fuck you blizzard, if you arent fixing this shit I'm not playing, im done. Let me just fucking get my fucking gold just fucking once you dumb niggers
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Fucking niggers I just leveled a paladin to get some comfy gold farm so I can gear him nicely and now this shit happens, while everyone else had months to enjoy the free gold.
Fuck you blizzard, if you arent fixing this shit I'm not playing, im done. Let me just fucking get my fucking gold just fucking once you dumb niggers
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It goes a lot further than that. The state of the world is pushing people to hyper optimize everything. Look at how birth rates are falling in already developed countries. No one wants to have a kid when everything is so expensive. That's optimization. You don't see this in poor third world countries which is why their birth rates are so high. They can't think past the present day so they make decisions in the moment.
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It goes a lot further than that. The state of the world is pushing people to hyper optimize everything. Look at how birth rates are falling in already developed countries. No one wants to have a kid when everything is so expensive. That's optimization. You don't see this in poor third world countries which is why their birth rates are so high. They can't think past the present day so they make decisions in the moment.
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no its set to my native 2k resolution, tried turning vsync off and on again, messing with anti-ailiasing etc to no abail
game text is fine on nameplates and everywhere else but for some reason at a certain distance the names themselves seem blurry when they arent usually. Cant figure out why
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To the guy who keeps saying "ban gold buying"
Is it morally wrong and violate the spirit of the game? Yes
Can you do anything about it? Never
Nothing stops me from
>luring players into Discord
>Explaining to them that I want each of them to send me 50 silver in game and I will then send them $5 for every 50 silver
Yes I know that's a rip for me but I don't care, I got money to blow
>the transaction happens
Blizzard has no way to proove I bought the in-game money
Blizzard has no way to proove it's friends sending friends gifts
The only way to prevent this is by banning player trading of copper, silver and gold
Which means you ban the auction house
Unless you want to do item for item swapping
But don't worry, I'll find a way to abuse that system too
This fundamentally alters the game in a way which all players will hate
Look at any MMO that tried to ban the buying and selling of gold by getting rid of player trading
The players immediately hated the game and most quit
Blizzard then loses subscription fees because the player base is hemorrhaging
The flaw of buying gold is fundamentally a part of the game
It's a flaw which cannot be changed
Want to argue over the pay to win token buying? I.E. buying gold directly from Blizzard themselves
"Only rich people get ahead in the game because they're already ahead in life and that's not fair"stop being mazed and go get a life
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To the guy who keeps saying "ban gold buying"
Is it morally wrong and violate the spirit of the game? Yes
Can you do anything about it? Never
Nothing stops me from
>luring players into Discord
>Explaining to them that I want each of them to send me 50 silver in game and I will then send them $5 for every 50 silver
Yes I know that's a rip for me but I don't care, I got money to blow
>the transaction happens
Blizzard has no way to proove I bought the in-game money
Blizzard has no way to proove it's friends sending friends gifts
The only way to prevent this is by banning player trading of copper, silver and gold
Which means you ban the auction house
Unless you want to do item for item swapping
But don't worry, I'll find a way to abuse that system too
This fundamentally alters the game in a way which all players will hate
Look at any MMO that tried to ban the buying and selling of gold by getting rid of player trading
The players immediately hated the game and most quit
Blizzard then loses subscription fees because the player base is hemorrhaging
The flaw of buying gold is fundamentally a part of the game
It's a flaw which cannot be changed
Want to argue over the pay to win token buying? I.E. buying gold directly from Blizzard themselves
"Only rich people get ahead in the game because they're already ahead in life and that's not fair"stop being mazed and go get a life
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Afaik, that wolf was a rare with a unique skin, it used to be special, like how Warp Stalkers were more special before mounts.
It doesn't sit right with me, they don't even have to tame a pet....
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It goes a lot further than that. The state of the world is pushing people to hyper optimize everything. Look at how birth rates are falling in already developed countries. No one wants to have a kid when everything is so expensive. That's optimization. You don't see this in poor third world countries which is why their birth rates are so high. They can't think past the present day so they make decisions in the moment.
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You don't get it. Classic players feel they are entittled to legendary items and BIS gear every single phase (despite that's mathematically impossible). They feel that if they can't get those things it's a waste of time. If their parses are not purple or orange, they are failures. Because of this mentality and because blizzard has destroyed the game with boosts, cash apps, and the general degeneracy of the company hiring trannies, I will never give this company another diem. It's dead. I'm having so much fun playing Stellaris right now, I don't give a fuck about WoW. Tomorrow I'll play a different game and not give a fuck about WoW. Life is better when you don't play with people or give money to a company that hates you.
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my talent tree choices are absolutely chaotic and make no sense other than to cater to my niche tastes for what I want to play. Every time I load up an arena talent tree, I think it's miserable to play, just chaining CCs. Dumb.
I understand if you hate Bobby Kotick's maze, but you can actually enjoy the game, you just have to prepare that yeah, you won't be geared, or you won't access that talent.
I just got 14 kills on a tree that I made up myself, not top of the leaderboard, but I had more fun than I did before, you do not need Gruul's Gapeblade to play.
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It's going well.
Approaching 80k of the 100k goal.
Decided my 13th book will be about my experience having seen a Sasquatch and the resulting research I've done
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>Pretty cozy lads.
lonely*
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the absolute state of wow classic
>login
>blasted with adverts for joining a discord to buy gear from raids and boosting slabs runs
>try to do a 5man
>tanks and healers all selling ''services'' wont play the game unless you give them all boes and unwanted blues
>go to stormwind to check AH
>CASINO GANG ROLL 66-98 AND WIN WAOH WAOH GANG GANG CASINO GANG
>noob3546 whispers you: hey can you spare 2g for my abilities
>finally get to AH
>check prices for my craftable materials for my preraid bis items
>still overpriced as fuck
total classic player death. just kill em all fuck em all.
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>>563718228
The game isn't made for 30K players in mind. It also wasn't made to have third world gold farmers hogging all the nodes 24/7. Blizzard back then made it a point to ban bots in the overworld since they would detract people from doing shit. This was all in the interview with Kaplan from last month.
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>>563730137
All the creators of niller are irrelevant. The game practically made itself. All they did was mindlessly crunch since they didnt have enough time to properly think things through.
They just copied popular culture and that was good enough for the first great mmo.
Its funny, a whole generation of schooled game devs after them could not make a better game because they overdesign everything.
The same can be said for other games:
Take silent hill, the first few games are just japs making a horror game for the western audience, so they just copied western books, films etc... and they were great games.
The later games start cannibalising on what silent hill is supposed to be, get overdesigned and fail.
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>thread almost a week old
just kill this shit already
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>>563732563
Not that anon, but I need 5k to do my epic flying quest as a druid, need to change my profession from skinning to enchanting so I can enchant my own shit, I also need to buy consumables to raid. 10k gold would resolve my problems, but I'll not rush it, we still have 8 months of tbc
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>>563733936
>but I need 5k to do my epic flying quest as a druid
You should probably explain that your game BiS idol is locked behind a 5K gold quest and that your group members will resent you if you don't have it despite not helping you with it at all.
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>>563183769
but what if I overdose???
I can always take world of warcraft outside but i cant take adderal outside
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wanting classic plus just proves he was correct
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>>563738460
Im one shotting t4 content every week with suboptimal pugs (raid leading), and doing heroics here and there.
90% of the people i see are not even remotely interested in learning the mechanics or special speedrun tactics
To the point that i think im going to see a lot of wipes in t5 pugs since the grps are shoeing really low effort
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>level 70 paladin tanking a single enemy by using seal of wisdom and spamming consecration for threat
I've seen this happen multiple times with multiple paladins. Why are they like this? How can you know so little about your class?
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>>563740481
whales who have more money than sense, "oh boy I want to roll a flavour of the month hunter" and then they start at level 58 with a pet, unnamed, and get Beast Lord and log off because they find Beast Mastery boring. The same with the people running frost mage.
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My WoW subscription runs out in a month, so I figured I'd spend that time doing some chill leveling on era. What's the state of era population? If I were to make a warrior and be willing to tank dungeons, would I be able to find Deadmines etc. groups while leveling, or are all the levelers on hardcore servers and the only people on era are GDKP runners?
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Started playing again. I saw a rogue with the Rend buff on my server earlier.
But, the usual site I used back in vanilla / HC (whenbuff) has literally nothing scheduled for my server, ever.
Am I missing something, do world buffs still happen on TBC servers? I mean I guess they do, because I saw one, but they apparently also don't?
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>>563750137
>Am I missing something, do world buffs still happen on TBC servers?
Yes, there are just so many layers that it's impossible to organize. You just wait in Org or Barrens and wait if you really want it.
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>>563751406
I see, that makes sense
I did wonder if people even did those world buff quests any more.
>>563751559
Dang does it really work like that now? I remember in HC it seemed to transcend all layers
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If I'm going to beg my friends to get into this game with me, should I just wait for classic+ for best results? Seems like the marketing push is probably going to be huge for it. I have been enjoying TBC anniversary and classic era a bit but it seems like the majority of players there are maxed out running raids already
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>>563752720
Spring 27 is the earliest it can really be based on the current TBC schedule they have already published. Summer 27 seems the most likely.
>>563752352
I just stopped myself short of resubbing because of classic+ since I like 'nilla better than TBC anyways.
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Can't they just roll the classic/anniversary expansion releases into retail somehow? I feel like one of the intended outcomes of doing classic+ would be consolidating the playerbase. All these separate experiences aren't going to be sustainable the way they've been doing them