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The Nightmare is ongoing... >>563249828
>Preseason notes
https://x.com/CZN_Official_EN/status/2039583608030347497
>Diana (NEW) Character PV
https://x.com/CZN_Official_EN/status/2039628905502413007
>Galactic News Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4rvb_PYd0g
>Dev notes 04/07
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/12945661
>Roadmap Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4
>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xtb66f3i
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant
>Current Featured Banner
[ Diana ] Passion - Hunter
Rate Up Period: 04/08/2026 - 05/05/2026
>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Check the Rentry
>Deckbuilders
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/deck-builder
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What went wrong?
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lmao
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why is this general so negative?
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>>563458802
focus on minmaxing save data burned out a lot of people (me included)
The new Chaos where you cant have save data and theres crazy effects is pretty fun. I want more of that with more challenges inside of it.
I genuinely believe Sortie will be what the game needs. Hopefully they dont fuck it up
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>>563458802
Nothing went wrong. The devs are constantly making improvements to the game each season. There's just nothing to spend on even for whales since everyone and their mother has 600+ pulls and can get any new unit at will.
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>>563459652
Aren't they doing the wishlist thing where you can choose who you want to roll for in standard? Not sure if it will use standard or premium rolls. If they're doing that then I doubt we get reruns except for limiteds.
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>>563456394
Wait for the next unit that has built in shockwave into their deck.
She'll be the one to beat him easily.
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TICK TOCK
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>>563460562
That is literally just Wuwa.
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>>563458802
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It’s Sereniel. It’s the same exact shit every korean gacha that does limited seasonal units suffer. People start saving and watch out for the next one or holiday or summer or whatever.
So while Sereniel was intended as a Christmas Unit, people naturally watched out if at the end of Season 2 there’d be something like her, or if during Easter there’d be one. And now close to Half-Anniversary
Hell, Blue Archive had this years back. The bunnies saved their game but people started playing safe in comparison. Then with half and anniversaries having busted limited units people started skipping and saving because they knew each 6 months that would happen and they’d have to plan around that. Until they got surprised at the one that got 2 od those instead of 1.
Look at Nikke right now: they did a gigantic VN event for blue girls. But of course people would play safe because they are close to such occasion.
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>>563460562
this is all i need to see
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>>563458802
Game needs more Haru and Rei, the recent characters are too old
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>>563461573
Pretty much.
These devs literally have zero fucking intelligence.
Limiteds kill the fucking game since everyone starts saving for them and only them and abandon the game after being bored because they haven't rolled for anyone new for several months.
Game will suffer from low sales with HUGE spikes with every new limited.
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>>563463573
Don't EVER reply to my post until you know the context I'm talking about.
Now call yourself a stupid BITCH.
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>>563463778
>it worked for genshin
BAHAHAAHA no it didn't.
Alloy was their limited unit, and she sucked total fucking ass and was a major skip for everyone.
So no one took limited seriously ever again.
Big difference with Sereniel, who not only is she limited but she was shilled extensively and a dominant force far beyond everyone else with to this day the very best Ego 2 out there.
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>>563463485
>he denies C&C supremacy
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>>563462628
Dumb disabled gooks wont release Luche so I've converted to huge tiddies
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>>563465407
Kind of. She works well enough with Nia but you either need Renoa or Veronica for a third character, or somehow you empty out the third unit's deck for her to function well.
She seems to be designed around Renoa for the matter as her cards trigger generic bullets AND can apply Quietus to them (so Renoa shoots twice per bullet and exhausts them before they clog the deck)
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>>563465908
Meant for >>563465706 >>563465794
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>>563465908
She supports my dick, retard
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>>563468082
You would always get 80 for here and 60 if you choose the item. This '2x' event is a ploy to nerf and gaslight the community. 80 x 2 is 160, not 120. And they will be changing to to 60 after the event, bet.
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>>563468763
Totally, my nigguh
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>>563468763
where do you think those cakes go
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What's good my Nica?
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>>563487317
It's not going to get better I dont know why you fags cope and hope with this rewrite meme being potentially better when it's simply marketing. The gameplay is peak, dont be greedy like the dumb gooks.
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>>563489485
b-b-but the modding!
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I still have 2 remove left. Should I remove those upgrade cards? Also I'm like 75% in lab 0 and not seeing a single lab0 equips and neutral in shop at all. Did I miss something?
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Thinking nothing will change is delulu.
With the Chinese release in combination they will change a lot I believe.
They also HAVE TO fix the story for the CN release
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>>563487317
Stay in your garbage thread
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>>563492374
Remoa will get cucked until she completely breaks and begs for sex
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>>563494086
The amount of healing you'll need depends on how quickly you can drop his hit stacks to 0 before you start drawing his turd cards with vulnerable because that lets him start spanking you for big damage.
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>>563494086
read
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Protip: discarding a hand full of quietus bullets does wonders to his bullshit stack. So does firing Diana's ego skill bullet with a hand full of bullet cards.
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Not that one, I think? The boss often act (attacks) again, hence I said double attacks. I guess depleting the stacks in one turn would force the boss to do the deck shuffling move instead but I don't think many characters can do that. I don't have Diana or Meilin so I've been trying to do it with Renoa, Vero and Nia.
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Nia heals a lot as long as you can provide a constant source of Elasticity - get the upgrade soul rip that gives 1 elasticity 1 decibel every time you discard a card and force reshuffles a lot. Your survivability problems will disappear.
The problem is that the easiest way to force reshuffling is abusing Quietus activation. So you need Quietus persona cards or Diana.
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Tier 0 Yuki will save this half-anniv.
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>>563505063
>Protos will never experience something like this
Smilegate need to change the game direction.
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>>563497817
I was busy trying to bruteforce 9/9 Colossus with my mid decks
It didn't work, I'm going to give up for now and wait for next banners >>563459820
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>>563497817
personas are a flop
anyone engaged with the game mechanics understands that nothing matters besides draw 1 support divines which are boring and gay horrible to farm antigameplay even with the epic +25% divine odds boost. no changes to this btw.
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>>563506184
aw hell naw I'm not joining any /vg/ tryhard guild for this game
I already have a bad past with them due to other gachas, and tryharding in CZN is even more of a chore
casual guild or bust
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Stickerlets need not apply
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I have yet to even attempt the new boss rush mode.
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>>563512124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhEtdYrpWPM
your lucas?
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>>563521995
Toki >>>>> Asuna > Karin > Neru >>>>>>>>> Akane
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>>563523802
You already said that in /ssg/
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>>563499929
But deluge is already the strongest card in the game
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day 1 player I still dont own Luke or hugo. I legitimately dont understand how everyone called hugo broken S tier subDPS month 1 and now he's dead garbage. I havent read his kit carefully I just dont get how both of those things are possible given how damage works in this game. Am looking forward to owning him some day so I can finally "get it"
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Dead general goddamn. Btw I have yet to clear diana story part 1 because im not lvl 40 lol, cant even beat the first story boss
Other gachas would at least have some fucking noob tier scaling or what not, but no I'm literally level gated for the last whole week unless i spend on Ether or use up all the reserve ether items
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>>563528752
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=face_of_the_peopl e_who_sank_all_their_money_into_the _fx_%28meme%29+
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I wish there were things to post about
>>563543068
Grats bwo
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>>563551396
isn't this one a mod? >>563537941
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>>563551396
>bro doesn't have the Tiphera rape mod installed
ngmi
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i'm not very good at this please help me
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>>563552289
Have you tried SENMETSUing the middle boss?
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>>563552289
Rita is a brick on the last boss. Either use Orlea to buff Nine or run a draw engine like divine Mika or Veronica. You can be lasy and make a massacre hew Nine.
You have the comp for the first boss so either your decks are shit or you need to level character stats more.
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>>563553267
I did the last boss 2 stars with Rita sole dps and her deck was not even that well optimized. It's probably feasible to get 3 stars with her, but I couldn't really bother as I got the 6 total stars for the gems.
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>>563570932
it's okay then i guess its less worse than i anticipated
since we're monday and it says 14d left i thought it was today the new reset
i leveled up random character with only horniness love and desire but i wonder if i'll be able to clear all of the levels with them
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N-nia?
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>>563573474
Yeah, these broken characters in the restaurant is kind of funny.
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>>563575092
Don't get my hopes up.
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>>563574961
Noooo I have been farming justice mats because the new monsters are blue!
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>>563574961
>Picked Renoa for standard selector to play with Diana
>This releases
AIEEEEEEEEEE BRICKED
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guys its this chick
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>>563579309
You can tell by the shape of the shadow on the side of her head it's that thing on the chibi sprite.
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>new girl
that makes way more sense.
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>>563578961
her hair is really weird
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>>563581624
nah selfmade from someone
https://x.com/X_h_i_r_o/status/2043652560213639449
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>>563584663
>>corrupted Renoa
Keep telling yourself that.
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>White rose
Will she fight Renoa and be my baby momma
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Actually Renoa 1.0 is the corrupted version remember season 3 is where they going to introduce Orlea and Hugo corrupted version.
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Slurp
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Are we back?
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I missed you bwos and this dead ass thread
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>>563588268
Need to remove background then figure out how to reimport it
Very sloppy grok
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>Takomayuyi for Half Anni
I'm going to impregnate her by mere thoughts alone from all the cum i'm going to pump for her.
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>>563590218
Yes, please, we need an axe wielder.
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Does nobody use the old and busted 4* characters? Can they even compete in the bowl? The latest event obviously is for paypiggers so I have no hopes in them revisiting and balancing free characters, but isn't it a bit too blatant to make the latest event all about the new character you must pull to get the max scores? You won't see any one in the top leaderboards without Diana for this event for sure...
Anyway, chaos is too punishing reeee
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https://x.com/i/status/2043652560213639449
Game needs more merch
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>>563590634
those be some horrific filters and surgeries. yeesh ...
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This is your next Seasonal say something nice
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>>563590910
All fights are designed to be cleared by 4* teams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhEtdYrpWPM
Stop making excuses.
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>>563590910
>The latest event obviously is for paypiggers
Wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhEtdYrpWPM
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>>563595167
>goalpost status?
>moved
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>>563595870
nightmare
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>>563595870
Imperial marshal butt
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>>563595870
Story to be rewritten
You are here for deckbuilding with a sanity gauge
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>>563595870
Impending EOS. Without me stirring the copium huffers to reply how that ain't true, the thread would've already page 10 out of existence.
>>563598489
Except that's wrong. It's not going to be rewritten, only "improved", modified in parts to make it appear as if the player has more agency. Expect more superficial glazing by a harem of girls manifested quicker than instant noodles and Owen and other males trivialized or entirely pushed aside.
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>>563591756
I know they dig that double eyelids thing but this shit is ridiculous.
>>563590910
We get posts like this evey season and mid-season and we'll continue to do so, but the game looks designed to be cleareable (NOT to be confused with top rankeable) with the 4-stars units.
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>>563590848
>vtuberfags
>in MY /czn/
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what are renoa's weak spots
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I would like more renoas.
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>>563601468
Hololive did the cover song for the game and we're going to get idolshit next season anyway
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>>563602743
there's something about main girls that scream cuckquean
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also that
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>>563604180
They should have added Nerissa to the game
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I don't get how this is goalpost moving. I have 3 thousand hours in Warframe, all free to play. I won't say it's not pay to win- because bringing to attention that spending 20x as many hours as someone who paid his way to obtain gear and frames without ever grinding is not moving the goalpost. I don't understand why people are okay being raped by corporations like this, and then constantly defending them.
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>>563595730
Yeah but did he paypig though, answer the question
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>>563608434
That's because you don't know what "pay to win" means. It's an specific term used to describe an unfair advantage in a competition that can ONLY be acquired by spending money.
If you can interchange money for gameplay hours and get the same results (defeating the event bosses with 900k+), it's not pay to win. You can argue that doesn't apply to the season ladderboards but that's not the point discussed here.
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>they give you enough free pulls to get that
Only for oldfags. It's basically mandatory for newfags to buy an account.
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>>563608434
Nigga please dissect the term "pay to win" and what meaning the words in the term have
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>It's basically mandatory for newfags to buy an account
No but it's mandatory to have a brain to enjoy this game, seriously what is your point? Just hit the damn gacha, read the damn mechanics and play the damn cards, it's not that complicated.
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>>563610416
This is peak pilpul
>Oh you can obtain this paid advantage without spending money!
>Just sell your soul and firstborn to the devil, see? No money involved! IT'S NOT PAY TO WIN! Heck you can even spend a million hours in the coal mines too if you want!
When the alternative to spending money is basically slavery or death, then no, it's not an alternative
kill yourself my dude
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>alternative to spending money is basically slavery or death
It looks like you are a little bitch that wants things handed to you without any effort. If you don't like playing the game, you shouldn't torture yourself by doing so.
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>E6 Luke
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>>563610784
Whatever, go choke on dicks
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The irony of calling a statement "pilpul" is crazy, stop projecting
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>>563611314
Sorry meant the better brother.
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>>563612780
What I DON'T want to see is another limited unit
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Triggered lmao
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This game is literally p2w. Idk why you guys think otherwise. I like it though because I earn more in 30 min and it saves me time hours of my life. Poorfags can disagree but don't think it's literally anything else.
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>>563612947
You'll likely get another one soon.
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Please buy it and win the game, anon.
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Is it too hard to ignore pointless shit flinging, it's not like devs are going to read it and change their mind
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Thoughts???
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your accusations of poorfaggotry are humorous at best. But I agree, spending money would be much easier and a better use of my time, but unfortunately I still have the poorfag time wasting habits from back then despite having the money now to whale on anything I want. I have yet to spend on any gacha to this day...
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>>563614912
Everyone shared the link to your friends for 100 gems, right?I just shared it on my solo discord server I use for moving files from my phone
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>>563616761
anon out here just openly admitting to fraud
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>>563615584
looks like the Idol that is singing with Tenebria isn't playable
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Gachafags are retarded. Their Overton windows have been raped so hard that they consider gachashit not P2W just because it's not as P2W as the worst bottom of the barrel offenders. Add to that a massive amount of tribalism and being "F2P friendly" being a badge of honor and ammo you can use against other gacha it's no wonder they will cope and seethe like mad to not admit their gacha (like all gacha) is P2W. Also the fact that they call "only" buying the monthly F2P+ is fucking hilarious
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What are you paying to win against in this game? It's a bunch of single player shit that you can waste money on if you want to and the only thing you get from being better than others is some completely useless badge next to your name and bragging rights on /czn/
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You can pay to get an advantage over other players thus it's pay to win
These kinds of
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>noooo it doesn't count it's not pvp
>noooo it doesn't count there's no REAL competition
>noooo it doesn't count the rewards don't pass my arbitrary bar
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And like I explained, that advantage doesn't really mean much. In CZN if you pay more money, you have easier time getting your characters to max power and have more options for lineups. But then what? 100% of the game is singleplayer (at least for now) and the only thing where you compete against other players is the dumb Great Rift leaderboard where you barely get anything for tryharding and placing high.
P2W is largely relevant only in multiplayer games where you actually compete against other players and having an advantage there make the experience way more shit to the players who aren't paying or aren't paying as much. In singleplayer games it's kinda whatever unless the whole game is designed in a way where you are kneecapped hard if you don't pay which isn't the case at all for CZN.
I'm not losing sleep over someone paying money for a E6 Yuki so they can clear chaos faster
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You're just back at the old copes now. You can pay to get an advantage over other players thus it's pay to win. No amount of going
>oh but the advantage isn't that big
>oh but the advantage doesn't really give you anything
Will change that fact. And it's always funny how the arbitrary line of "big enough of an advantage/reward" always changes to be just juuust right so the gachafag in question's favorite gacha isn't P2W by their retarded, arbitrary definition. The gacha doesn't have PVP? Oh no no you see a game needs PVP to be pay to win. The gacha doesn't have leaderboards? Oh no no you see a game needs leaderboards to be pay to win. The gacha has PvP leaderboards? Oh cmon it's just a couple rolls you're losing that doesn't count. You get the point.
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Dunno, you seem to be fighting some imaginary battle against gacha game players and assuming a whole lot of things. I don't really know what you are even trying to argue when the game is f2p and has monetisation typical to a gacha game. I don't think anyone here is disputing that there are some p2w elements in the game, but the point is that they don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
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>>563621496
A single XP booster is an advantage over the other players. Game doesn't even have to be a gacha.
Thus your statement doesn't make any sense. You HAVE to define a threshold or you are simply being against the business model.
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Yeah it worked, thanks for sharing back.
Hope you got the gems too!
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>I don't think anyone here is disputing that there are some p2w elements in the game
People were doing that in this very thread my man
>>563621794
CS2. Dota2. There are plenty of such games where the only things you can buy are purely cosmetic.
>>563622192
Yes, games that have purchasable XP boosters are obviously P2W too. The fact that you think this is a gotcha is fucking insane
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No shit, the business model is a superset of the problem in gacha, and every dogshit Korean game I play has it, every nexon title with their boosters and cosmetics with insane stat boosts like in vindictus. I don't see how him being against gacha p2w doesn't mean he won't be against the business model. I'm the original poster who was just appalled by the lengths you faggots take it up the ass defending it
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>>563622521
Dota 2 is p2w, some skins have different effects on abilities that can make them harder to detect. There's also Dota+ that gives you a bunch of extra information about the game, so by all accounts it's p2w too
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It's okay anon, you can hate the business model. I actually do too. But that's not what reasonable people understand as P2W. You can create your own fancy word and not sound like a retard.
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>>563591756
love the tummy, want to bite it and put a baby in
But imagine your child man it will not look like it's mother at all since the mom is plastic...
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>>563622661
Oh you said gacha. Fucking hell you really are tribalismbrained to hell
There isn't a non-P2W gacha. They're all P2W. I never claimed otherwise.Well maybe there's some obscure one that's skin only I wouldn't know
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>Dota 2 is p2w, some skins have different effects on abilities that can make them harder to detect
lol now this is an insane reach
If this were truly the case either every pro player would be rocking these skins or tournaments would ban skins altogether. Neither are the case
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>actually reasonable people don't consider (my) gacha P2W
This is why everyone makes fun of gacha players
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>>563623195
Its got nothing to do with tribalism, it's just pointing out how it's retarded to act like the small differences between the games in terms of monetization don't matter when it's something they all engage in.
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>lol now this is an insane reach
>If this were truly the case either every pro player would be rocking these skins or tournaments would ban skins altogether. Neither are the case
How is it insane? There are skins that affect how abilities look and some of the abilities are easier or harder to detect when using said skin. It does provide an advantage during the game.
You also get further information advantage when using Dota+ even though you might argue about its quality. If we want to call something pw2 based on money giving you an advantage over a player not paying that money, Dota 2 has the two things I talked about that will constitute as pw2 no matter how small they might be.
This is why the term p2w is such a retarded thing to throw around because you can apply it to most games that allow for any sort of micro transaction whether its cosmetic or not. Hell, there are even some skins in Dota 2 that can give you information advantage because they track some sort of actions you do during the game. Dunno if it was fixed, but you could for example see how many razes you hit on an invisible enemy with the Shadow Fiend arcana.
tldr: Don't obsess over p2w and use your brain when talking about it
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>>563623421
It doesn't matter when it comes to being P2W. The same way when it comes to the label of criminal it doesn't matter if you're a murderer or a thief. You are still a criminal. Yes, a murderer is worse than a thief but that doesn't mean you can go
>ayo I jus stole sum stuff I ain't no criminal
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>It does provide an advantage during the game.
Nope. If it provided an actual advantage professional players would be taking advantage of it en masse or it would be banned during professional play.
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>Nope. If it provided an actual advantage professional players would be taking advantage of it en masse or it would be banned during professional play.
Dunno, if you just want to ignore all the arguments I presented, go ahead, it doesn't really help your case if you want to convince people otherwise. I do agree that the benefit you get from skins is minimal, but the advantage still exists whether it's prevented in tournament play or not. And professional play is a small part of the overall game that is being played, most matches are played by ordinary players who can benefit from these small advantages. Easy examples are some aoe abilities that don't show the area of effect completely on some skins compared to others where its much more pronounced where the ability ends.
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I'm thinking I'm in the mood for some Idolm@ster doujins.
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>>563624198
>X gives you an advantage
>how come the professional players fighting for dozens of millions of dollars at a level where even the tiniest advantage matters don't use X?
>crickets
You don't have an argument.
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>accusing others of being low IQ while being unable to keep track of such a simple conversation
kek
>This is why everyone makes fun of gacha players
This was in response to thinking a convoluted 150 word definition of P2W that makes it so your gacha isn't P2W is something the average Joe agrees with. I am saying that level of delusion is why people make fun of you.
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>>563624553
Dunno, you're the one who started to bitch and moan about p2w stuff so I just presented you examples that should clearly demonstrate how a thing you can buy ingame provides a bit of an advantage over not using it. I could even bring out the example of how some map skins make the juke paths more visible, but this of course does not affect pro players in a major way because they should know most of the paths by heart. It still does provide you with an advantage if you can see the juke paths as a nonprofessional player.
I'm not arguing that Dota is a p2w game, I'm arguing that your whole fixation on p2w is retarded
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>>563625276
Why should I address that point when my argument is not dependent on it? I could go through most pro players for Dota to see if there are some patterns on their skin preferences, but it doesn't make or break the argument whether they exist or not. You just need to be able to get advantage of them, the argument is not dependent on someone actually doing it
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Should I grab Veronica or Orlea from the 300 pulls in combatant rescue? From what I've understood from thread those are the best options and can go in most teams. So far I've gotten Mei Lin, Renoa, Kayron and Chizuru from the gacha.
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>>563631848
Orlea is a bit more suited to specific teams and niches, like big nukes and retain comps. Veronica is generally more splashable and like a no-brainer choice for 99% of characters. Can't actually think of a team who would really hate to have her on it.
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>>563637825
I don't know.
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>>563637825
WG still has the best tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz5gbeoKhH0
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>time to build a basic deck for Renoa
>exterior
>delete instant judgement
>get the flower with the discard3 epiphany
>reach the boss
>no flower in the copy event
>ragequit, repeat
>no flower in the copy event
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>try again
>delete instant judgement and last-ditch assault
>shit epiphany on the flower, rerolls coudn't fix it
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>reach the interior boss with epiphany only on the flower
>garbage persona, garbage items, garbage epiphany reroll options
Sometimes I really fucking hate this game.
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This game is literally CZN 2.
They had to confirm in the dev. stream that there will be no more males, story is not immersive enough and will be worked on bla bla, they have the full Korean mixed toilet experience.
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>>563629880
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This whole time I thought ending my turn and discarding the cards in my hand was actually discarding cards but no it's not actually counting as discarding a card and we have to manually use cards that discard cards
Why
Wow
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>>563655613
I think Quietus cards in particular need effect to discard like Dark World monsters. Renoa’s bullets definitely don’t need such effects as she always attacks when you discard at the end of the turn. Like Fabled monsters.
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>>563655323
Bro stop sending me malware
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>>563655458
How is it projection, it's literally what you said >>563654804
>wait,even this game has homo unit in it?
>why they gotta force cocks for everyone
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>>563655759
This is the problem. I played renoa and her trauma story in the early tutorial hours of the game and ever since then I thought ending my turn counts as discarding the cards, because, well, it fucking did for renoa. So now I have been wracking my head wondering why the fuck Nia and her discard shit isn't working on turn end, voila- because it doesn't fucking count for anyone except Renoa. Fucking dumb shit gooks can't explain shit. Maybe they should add quietus to her bullets because that's what they are
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>>563657090
She also got a lot of people poverty diamond last rift, which is why they will nerf her into the ground
If spores remained seasonally irrelevant perhaps she would've been fine, but since old seasonal cards are carrying over she's a goner
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>>563654435
Is this just edit breakdowns?
I only masturbate to POV vanilla
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Idol lobbies are gonna be the most boring possible shit. They better release lobbies like
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4chan is so laggy and shit today idk how it posted 2 times
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>>563669785
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>make a loli character
>get fan arts
It's that simple. SG is retarded.
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>>563676574
Yeah, it kinda sucks that her mini-story was pretty much repurposed Judas and she didn't get a trauma code, she was the character I was waiting for the most.
The good thing, however, is that she's incredibly fun to play and she's cute to boot.
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>>563675132
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Yeah, it kinda sucks that her mini-story was pretty much repurposed Judas and she didn't get a trauma code, she was the character I was waiting for the most.
The good thing, however, is that she's incredibly fun to play and she's cute to boot.
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Could also be that they will rewrite Judas' plot and so they salvaged the original plotline for her.
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>>563461338
>It wasnt even powercreep. It was just their aggressive shilling for S2 characters.
It was both. You guys keep forgetting that they buffed practically every 5* character *except* Sereniel, while also inflating HP of enemies. They did nerf Sereniel, it was just an extremely intentionally targeted, indirect nerf to her, because you can't have a gacha that blatantly nerfs a Limited unit right after the Limited comes out, especially when the directed told everyone on the apology stream that there aren't any Limited units or anything like that in CZN.
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>>563679019
Why did they make a Tiph covered in semen?
>>563681391
I keep telling you guys, she went from sleepwalking through ~115 bug planet to losing to the first boss unless I get good epiphanies with the update. It's not just the season that fucked Sereniel.
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Is it possible to mod this game Hoyo-WuWa style?
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>>563692150
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>live stream
God I hope not, shit makes me feel secondhand embarrassment from the sheer lack of charisma the host has
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That's the sword of arising, it goes into the heirs urethra (probably kanchou's urethra this time) so the penis can finally arise.
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>>563695140
Aw yeah, we're adding a weapon gacha, bros!
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>Tenebria half anniversary banner
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>all the E7 SEAniggers come out
Stay in your dead thread >>563532363, holy fuck the absolute state of your general is putrid
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Every character is here except ONE
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>>563712160
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I'm really really interested in a female Owen
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>>563612986
You pay with your time or you pay with your money. Free lunch and all. Ultimately the true autists aim for Divines anyway so I am not sure if this would be worth my shekels.
Anyway, does anyone know who this is supposed to belong to? Luche maybe?
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>>563611285
Anon he's a gacha player, of course he things gameplay should be abolished and gins should be given. Only enjoyment most people like that get is the pull dopamine, be it seeing the hoard grow larger or pulling the unit they want.
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Can someone explain why the monetization model is so retarded? It costs me 17,99€ to get 10 rolls which is a completely ridiculous rate. If I buy crystals the rate is even worse outside the first time I would buy them where you get double crystals (which still is fucking horrible value).
Like legit what sort of brain damage do you need to have to waste money on the cash shop? Ignoring the general idea of how stupid its to use money on gacha games, you need to use such large sums of money to get enough roll currency that it's just dumb.
I wouldn't mind spending some money outside the 30 day log in thing because the game is quite fun, but buying anything else feels like you are getting fucked in the ass raw
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But isn't that rate complete ass? In CZN you need 70 rolls for pity, so you need $105 for a guaranteed 5 star and $210 for a guaranteed banner character. Like what the fuck that is the price of 3 normal games for a character. If you want a guaranteed E6 of a character, it's over 1k unless you roll well.
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For amazing game like CZN $100 for character is cheap, you have no idea how much effort the dev team put on the game, they give us CZN for free paying extra for playable character is way too generous.
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I have legit seen the same type of posts in other gacha generals please cut me some slack. I know the average "human" posting on here cannot even be considered one
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Probably a lot would be my guess, she was my fav girl too.
I was in favor of a rework but i didn't expect them to completely gut her.
Inane disappointment. And a huge loss of trust. I basically do not trust them with anything they say anymore
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Gookcels saw how much attention the other girls were giving to Own in the story (i.e. any at all) and screamed that the game was NTR bait, and the devs are clearly trying to pretend he doesn't exist in reaction. Considering he's also arguably the worst unit in the game with a miserably boring kit, he doesn't have many fans even among those that aren't psychos who want every male gacha character burned alive. I think the plan is just to let everyone forget he exists.
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I wonder what the plan there is then. Are they just going to rearrange the Blue Pot/Tutorial situation so Tressa joins immediately instead of Owen? The problem is that Owen is a really fucking good tutorial character as far as teaching the game goes.
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>to celebrate here are some images of people having a mental breakdown
>use them for your amusement
Theres something a bit morbid about this.
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AFAIK the korean version was written slightly differently so the girls were more disrespectful/cold/uncaring to the player, but they all cared about Owen, and one of basically admitted Owen was her pet character that they wanted or something. Im not sure on the details of the latter, but I distinctly remember people saying she admitted to Owen being her oc donut in some way.
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Sorry, but someone can give me a quick rundown on this Owen situation? I started playing recently and really liked the game and never felt anything negative about Owen.
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There was also some stuff about rewrites because the director nepo-hired some female writers and they all bullied the original writer into leaving so they could have more influence on the story. I'm not sure how true the control part is because you would assume the director would have complete control, but they apparently admitted to the former on an apology stream.
There's so much to unpack that a QRD leaves a lot of details out that might be relevant.
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He has a bit of a strange look but he is consistent and he keeps it real
https://youtube.com/@gachajoshirl
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Because NTR
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>>563737758
Long story short: korean's script of the game is seemingly worse than ours, taking quips directly at the players or with connotations of stuff they dislike. Not just that pinch gesture.
It's to the point they even used OUR english localization as proof their version is worse. Mind you, we did have some small controversy when Kiara said the Protos has a tiny pistol.
The devs bullied the writer seemingly responsible for the setting and that was doing a good job. Apparently he is the one resposible for the start of the game and Renoa's trauma code, recognized as good pieces of writing. But after being forced to rewrite the story about 4 times over he left (he got hired into Blue Archive since then and is doing well over there)
So that was already bad enough. But when we get to Orlea's introduction, we need to take on a sidequest to the Foretold Ruin, I think about Chapter 4 of the story, and then the story takes a nosedive. You KNOW someone else wrote that. The competent crew with some wacky antics are not complete incompetent retards losing sight of the mission and each other, the story bends over backwards while wasting your time and then Owen disappears without everyone noticing and is taken control by the Chaos, forcing us to rescue him, everyone console him and then he gets talked by Diallos.
Because of that, the koreans went crazy with shitposting Owen is the actual protagonist, Owen the only one people care about, the story is about Owen etc.
It's overblown, but in my opinion he is just symptom of a bigger issue. You can and should have a growth arc for the cast, you can't do so at the expense of everyone involved.
Due to that, Owen is now the NTR posterboy. And the devs know they fucked up so he has been getting less presence since then in spite of being one of the young trio. Notice that after Judas is dealt with, they tend to be sent in a separate way from the Captain and Renoa.
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>>563761107
AAAAA NOOOOO I AM GOING INSANE!
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-KkQUFrjD_2Un3zMDmypCwZFVF5Vmo wswqYdLt9MOw8/edit?gid=1103247606#g id=1103247606
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https://en.namu.wiki/w/%EC%B9%B4%EC%98%A4%EC%8A%A4%20%EC%A0%9C%EB%A1%9 C%20%EB%82%98%EC%9D%B4%ED%8A%B8%EB% A9%94%EC%96%B4/%EB%85%BC%EB%9E%80%2 0%EB%B0%8F%20%EC%82%AC%EA%B1%B4%20% EC%82%AC%EA%B3%A0
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Thank you guys, now I understand the situation much better, I just hope that this controversy (together with the other ones detailed in the korean wiki of grievences, koreans dont fuck around) does not impede in the continuation of this game, this is the first gacha that I played in a decade that I truly liked beyond being a fun time waster.
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This was their goal and one indisputable success when they amde CZN: the gameplay is legitimately good. But it was cursed with the development hell of dumb ideas. Seriously, 10 writers basically meant a controversy or two would happen sooner or later. FGO is proof of how something like that can work and can backfire royally.
Yuki's Season was basically the damage control season, you can feel straight away they were doing everything to fix up their messes. And it got progressively good with Nine's Season even though they clearly cut corners in the end with Rita's subplot.
So I think at least we are safe. From what I see from >>>revenue charts, while the KR one has a worse performance, it got really good performance in JP and Global.
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