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>Recent News
Blizzard & Turtle WoW have settled, official announcement maybe in 2 days.
https://whitemane.org/en/news/whitemane-2
MoP (June 6) & TBC Fresh soon!

>Released Servers
Turtle WoW - https://turtlecraft.gg (Vanilla+)
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Vanilla World+Retail, Classless, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (WOTLK)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (WoD on Legion client, Legion content coming soon)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)
Stormforge - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC, WOTLK+, MoP)

>Active Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, then whisper anyone for an invite. If you search Evil, sort by "Guild" (not "Zone") to filter the list.
<gulag> - Tauri, Evermoon realm, Alliance
<Evil> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, raids at 18:00 server time
<Branded> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, raids at 20:00 server time

>BBC+
https://github.com/ascensionhandynotespoi/HandyNotes_Ascension_POI
https://bronzebeardmaps.pages.dev/

>Turtle
All Turtle addons (copy & paste github links on the launcher) - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtlecraft.gg | https://talents.turtlecraft.gg | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtletimers.com

>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/9C4nXnUC

>Previous Thread
>>563603773
+Showing all 632 replies.
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sorry! couldn't bake with a full image, it kept timing out.
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>>563679985
>Whitemane MoP fresh
chances they fuck it up somehow? I'm not really familiar with them
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Just collected my first bounty on Synestria with a shit green cloak.
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>>563680396
just about to try this shit out, how is it? im a fan of the weird wow private servers like hour of twilight. i tried ebonhold too but im pretty sure that shits some kind of scam with how retarded the devs are
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>get into AV on nord
>t3.5 pallies beeline for relief hut and try to back cap it
>if they fail the entire ally team forces a 2 hour turtle and throws tantrums in general chat
why are they like this
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>>563680396
i had to pay 1,5k for a stupid glyph
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>>563680297
>Whitemane
My wife
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T-two more weeks doomer blizzsxsters...
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>>563680560
thrall....
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>>563680528
because
>pinky trannies
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>>563680497
>how is it?
I am having fun, but I have a long way to go before I can solo even low level wrath dungeons.
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>>563680297
>x3 rates
Already fucked up
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>sh*mans making up fake scenarios just to seethe about a bunch of green geared retardins in a 90% winrate bg for them
why are noshoes like this?
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>>563680750
cata revamped world is so fucking boring that this is a bonus for me
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>>563680297
>chances they fuck it up somehow
They are working with Stormforge, so hopefully it works out.
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>>563673121
you really ought to just level shadow (or disc till 40 then shadow depending on your preferences / the server changes you're on) and simply not have shadowform on during dungeons, you already have mad heals and focus on int by default so you will be able to extremely effectively heal dungeons up to cap without even specializing in any healing talents, that way you can run the dungeons you don't prefer once for quests or 0 times at all if you really hate them and focus on the ones you like. priest doesn't do the highest dps soloing but it's basically impossible to kill as well and is /cozy/

though frankly i have no idea what your problem with either of those dungeons are imo they're great and your fav WC is one of the wackest dungeons in classic, like it's got a great atmosphere but it's a big wonky maze a lot of noobs get lost in, i do think if you like it the most you'll love most later dungeons though as theyre built similarly but more players are less likely to get lost and confused by higher levels
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https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71235075/blizzard-entertainment-inc-v-turtle-wow/ got an update. It's not looking very good.
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>>563681632
>level shadow or disc
dont do either of these in vanilla. best thing to do is go wand spec into spirit tap and then down the holy tree for the smite/holy fire cast time reduction
priest spells are fucking garbage early on and mind flay is less damage than a vendor wand until rank 3 minimum. disc on twow is also mediocre for leveling as you get less damage from early talents than you would grabbing 5% crit and 0.5s cast time reduction from holy
only at 40 should you respec to shadow since youll have rank 3 mind flay, shadowform and pain spike on twow. disc is in a similar boat but also has more issues pre-60 since you need the holy talents for your best output
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>>563681842
Not looking good for Blizzard that is cause Turtle aint going anywhere
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>>563681842
that's not an update, that's just the judge saying
>okay both parties agreed to the judgement, here is my stamp
and then the last one is
>deleted all the pending court dates from the calendar, if the settlement is not finalized we will bring those back
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>>563680528
i've gotten hate whispers from allies as the literal sole defender because i didn't let them just take hut with a whopping 3 people while the rest of their team defended. their expectations are absolutely bizarre.
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Why is no one leveling on Ambershire? Starter zones are completely dead??
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>>563682662
take a guess retardkun
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>>563682662
>servers are getting shutdown soon
>why is the game dead?!?!?!
whats the point in playing something that has its lifespan measured in days rather than years? lol
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>GMs know nothing
>Shenna and Crogge radio silent
Yeah I'm sure everything's fine and the server will live forever.
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still waiting on an announcement of an announcement of what's next for Shenna Crogge and their chinese crew?

meanwhile we beat the shit out of Arugal

come try Epoch, it's more fun than waiting on some russian to show she "cares" for her playerbase
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>>563683068
how many players are around usually?
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>>563683051
p-Please say something, my wife's son is crying and my wife's boyfriend will hit me if he doesn't stop!
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I want to run Deadmines with You Anon.
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in the end, turtle won because they showed just how pathetic blizzard is. they cant even compete with a bunch of third worlders
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>>563682939
>>563683051
Stop DOOOOMING retards its going to be fine
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>>563683231
you're gonna overdose on that copium
shenna is licking bill gates' sweaty asshole right now to avoid prison time, how much of a winner do you think she feels like?
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>>563683214
do you like other nelfies..?
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>>563683141
player pop rises with each day, today's peak was ~380 players with over 200 players in 1-30 lvl bracket

yesterday we were happy to see 200 players, today was nearly 400, who knows how many will come tomorrow
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Why is no one leveling on Ambershire? Starter zones are completely dead??
>>563683141
We hit 400 on Kezan today, during EU downtime it's around 200.

Friday a community releveling event is happening, basically a soft relaunch.
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Two more weeks
Two more weeks until what
Two more weeks until we have to wait two more weeks
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not playing on a faildomme server
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>>563683480
>>563683473
interesting. ill give it a shot later on, maybe. might also just say to hell with WoW and go back to shooting 'borgs and 'bots in Neocron desu
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>>563683406
Of course i do! You can find me in Wsg.
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What class does EPOCH need?
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>>563683480
>copypasting the "why is nobody leveling on ambie" line
so its just epochniggers doomposting to get people onto their somehow-more-dead-than-troontle server
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>every single post from the last thread got deleted
What da hell?
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>>563683684
Someone who can code, lol
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>>563683331
what is there to cope about? blizzard shut them down because they couldnt beat them. 2004 blizzard wouldnt have had to do this since people would have chosen the official product over any private server.
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>>563683684
Bee urself, any class is needed

Ask in /world if you need anything, people are constantly giving out gold, bags, wands and leveling greens.
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>>563683684
if you're planning on playing as Horde they are in need of casters
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>>563683668
I'm too shy to queue wsg.... The last one I did we lost bad
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>as turtle wow’s numbers continue to shrink, epoch is on the rise
How the turn tables…
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>Bowser spoke to the chinks to tell them to prepare for shutdown because most of the development is done by EU
>They told him to fuck off
>Announcement got delayed
He's totally shitting himself cause he expected the gooks to comply isn't he?
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THE END IS COMING
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STOP THE COUNT
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Are warriors any good on Epoch?
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>>563684920
chinks telling him to fuck off and taking over is the funniest shit
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>>563684920
I cant even blame the chinks, they probably make good money off the server and are under zero threat of being hit with any effective legal action.
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>>563684920
>>563685059
>>563685275
>crogge gets his project stolen from him
That's just karma.
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I'm sick of retards who barely speak English whispering me to ask for clarification about something I said in world chat, and for this reason I want Turtle to shut down.
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>NO YOU HAVE TO SHUT DOWN TURTLE SEA IT BELONGS TO US SO YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO US
There’s something immensely hilarious about a pirate server getting outpirated by other pirates. Maybe Shenna should send the Chinese a DMCA hahahaha
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pochie... arise my champion
>>563685028
yes they are retarded strong and you may even get free anon priestess gf
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>>563682939
>join guilds weekly raids
>groups fill up for 6 days of raiding from mc to kara
>queue into av for free av day honour
>watch 5X lowbies on their slow mounts getting picked off
>run around chopping trees to level survival
>see people leveling in every zone
>check /who in the evening
>same 4k nord has had since ambershire sucked up the fresh of the month crowd
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Bronzebeard is fucking boring, the class design is so sterile. Mage for instance, you just cast scorch and fire blast over and over again. I thought this was supposed to be Retail-, where the fuck are my phoenix flames?
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>Paladin: 258 (16.75%)
>Hunter: 224 (14.55%)
>Warrior: 195 (12.66%)
>Druid: 166 (10.78%)
>Shaman: 156 (10.13%)
>Rogue: 152 (9.87%)
>Priest: 141 (9.16%)
>Mage: 127 (8.25%)
>Warlock: 121 (7.86%)
1-60 pochis
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>>563685534
what did that has to do with turtle? how does that affect you personally?
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>>563685028
they are quite good, similar to state of TBC plus additions like Bladestorm ability etc
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>>563685791
So much cope
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these pieces of shit not making an announcement they truly deserve to get shut down
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>>563685028
>only class who gets nu-wow skills
Ha ha bladestorm go brrr
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Nord has 2268 players on right now.
Ambershire has 2448 players on right now.
Both servers used to easily pull 6 to 8k players at this time.
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>>563683068
>Penance
yeah. that happened.
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Is there ERP on Pochie?
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>Language & Community
>Language Policy: Strict English-only requirement and enforcement in any and all public channels to ensure a unified community.

No wonder all turdies are so mad at Epoch jej
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>>563686814
still a very good amount considering it may go poof any time.
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>noshoes autistically defend every tower
>in exchange they get this
>they start leaving
you get what you fucking deserve
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>>563686872
yes it's a tranny server
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>>563686872
Nobody roleplays. I downloaded Total RP 3 and have not once seen a profile.
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>>563680816
>making stuff up
explain >>563687068 then?
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I don't even have any stake in this, I haven't played WoW or a WoW server in years. I just wanna see the shitshow, I wanna see the turtle players on speedrun the stages of grief, I wanna see them beg for the server to come back, I wanna see them lash out and drop the wholesome chungus personality, I wanna see them threaten to sue Blizzard and other dumb shit.
I just wanna see some action.
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Why did Blizzard deem going after Turtle to be worthwhile anyway? It's not going to convince people to subscribe.
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>>563687068
The reality is Alliance always have 5 to 10 on defense at the start, and tries to cap towers and graveyards with one or two people. When Horde realizes the capped towers and graveyards are left undefended or with a single defender, they go back and recap when the respawn south because they died pushing north to defense.
You should be going full offense at the start and just race. It results in quick games where even the losers win. But you're a rogue on defense so obviously you aren't very smart.
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>>563687287
Keep waiting cause nothing is going to happen
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>>563687287
for turdle players first will come the cope
then comes the rope
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>>563687149
This kind of makes me not want to play. Is it fun anyways?
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>>563687302
announcing their own classic+
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Are people such bitches that they only initiate ERP with people who have a tranny addon installed? No wonder you're all faildoms.
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>>563687068
you're so cringe
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>>563683480
epoch fags are so dumb
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>>563687287
i havent played turtle in months cause other games and my guild and friends all left already
its sad to see my favorite server go but i dont have any moral or legal defence for private servers without resorting to fuck your IP let us pirate your shit, so i accepted this premise when i joined the server. i didn't get attached to it, i won't cry, i had my fun and now the fun is over.
the only struggle i'm having is trying to pick a new server to play
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>>563687302
Turtle flew too close to the sun, started mocking Blizzard openly, making trailers with hundreds of thousands of views.

Blizzard doesn't actually give a shit, the 4-6k pop is a drop in the bucket for them. But according to US copyright law a company HAS to defend its trademarked products or risk losing their rights to it. If it stays under the radar (like with Warmane, Henhouse, Stormforge, etc) they'll never pursue litigation but once you start pulling in 10k+ numbers and openly mocking the company that you're actively STEALING from they're simply forced to take legal action.
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>>563686814
>Both servers used to easily pull 6 to 8k
None of the servers has hit 8k for months now and I don't think nord would often go above 5k
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>>563687068
You aren't turtling because the towers got backcapped, the towers got backcapped because you were turtling. If you had more people south defending them then they would never get taken back. When alliance isn't being retarded and turtling they usually get more honor than the horde despite the horde "winning" because speedrunning horde skips/doesn't defend the first two bunkers while the alliance will take every tower.
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Anyone wanna level together on Epoch Kezan together?

I was thinking of making a femhuman priest but I don't mind going Horde either
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Priests have so many healing spells compared to other classes which ones am I supposed to use
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You lost, tranny.
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I think I found my final resting place
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>>563687068
Based
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>play other game while waiting for dungeon queue
>see icon turn orange on the taskbar and tab back thinking my queue popped
>it was actually just alerting me that I got logged out for being afk
I'm never playing a dps only class again.
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>>563687973
For dungeons?

>Greater Heal
For sustained damage on the tank. This is the best heal for dungeons, let the tank get damaged over half his HP, cast your fattest GH, proceed to wand for the next 15 seconds so your mana can Regen.
>Prayer of Healing
AoE party heal, mana intensive
>Renew
Very light damage, usually used to top someone off
>Power Word: Shield
Usually an emergency stop-gap, can also be used pre-emptively to stop big incoming damage. Warrior and Bear tanks don't like getting shielded on pull since they need to be HIT in order to get rage. No rage is no threat. No threat is a dead you. Still useful to stop massive damage intake and get the time to cast a fat heal. Go wild with this one on Paladins, they don't mind.
>Flash Heal
Emergency Heal during big damage spikes, mana intensive, you're usually better off using Greater Heal in dungeons, sees more usage in raids, especially downranked.
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>>563687973
For leveling/dungeons, I generally stuck to two main heal abilities and you generally want to use your efficient ones aka Heal and Greater Heal at 40. One that's mana efficient and does like 20-30% and one big heal for clutch situations. If the incoming damage is fairly linear, I wait for the tank to fall to ~40% health before healing to full and ending with renew, and then go back to wanding and regening mana. Very rarely used flash heal and your shields are for fuck ups
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>>563688503
despite tank shortage i still have trouble queueing, mostly due to healers
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The perfect AV game is a game where both teams push for the other team's base, nobody defends, everything gets capped but undefended. Games like this will last around ten minutes. It won't even matter who wins the match because everyone wins with quick matches.
When you defend and turtle, you just fuck over yourself because you're slowing your own game down and getting less honor.
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>>563687068
fuck em, expecting free passes for playing like retards
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w-why are everyone so interested in going priest all of a sudden...
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Insider here, the server is staying up, they're waiting for Friday night to make an announcement so they can generate huge hype and get their highest player count ever to rub in Blizzard's face.
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>>563684804
>people only play epoch because theres nothing else
nice self own!
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>>563688093
Where is that?
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rogue or hunter for pochie?
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>>563680528
>play containment minigame for mentally ill players
>there are mentally ill players in the containment minigame for mentally ill players
i don't know what you expect.
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I'm going to check out Synastria. Anybody have any experience with this?
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>>563688093
I feel compelled to log back in and rest somewhere, if it really is all over.
Winterspring or Ashenvale maybe.
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>>563687953
are you somewhat submissive?
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what the fuck is going with this site lately
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>there hasn't been a single server that blizzard took down in asia
>project epoch still playable
>everlook wow still playable
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How are the tanks on epoch? I want to play one but can't decide between them.
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>>563689782
extremely addicting

>>563689294
wow doesn't end on turtle
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Dutch status?
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>>563691081
currently in negotiations to buy out the chink turtlewow branch
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>>563691081
All according to keikaku.
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Good riddance to the Turt world trash being barred from interacting with their customers, losing their entire base to their competitors, paying blizzard all their money, facing exclusion from the first world, waiving their right to appeal on a judgement that leads to over $100m damages, submitting to the jurisdiction of a US court in perpetuity
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>and those persons or companies in active concert or participation with Defendant who receive actual notice of this Order by personal service or otherwise, shall immediately and permanently cease and desist
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>>563691081
Raking in millions despite all of his servers feeling completely stale and boring.
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epoch sounds kinda shit, and apparently will be in court next (already got cease and desist letters served)
what else is there? just back to jank blizzlike servers?
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>>563693208
embarrassing turtle cope
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>>563688093
If Gnomes were real they would all be pregnant with my children.
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>>563693354
nice rebuttal. Wrath servers, Tbc talents, barely any new content. whats good about it? you make money from it?
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why do i randomly hear "you will die" ingame on pochie....
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>>563693771
They know you're a turdle refugee
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Shaman or priest for pvp support/healing?
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do we have a turtle announcement yet?
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>>563693634
>whats good about it?
It isn't going to die in a couple of days for one.
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>>563694554
Well yea cuz it was dead on arrival lmoa
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>>563695389
And despite that Epoch has only continued to grow while Turtle shrivels and dies.
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>>563694274
Priest, resto shaman is poo poo in pvp since chain heal is useless, healing wave is worse than other healers' single target spells, and totems only buff people in your group and unless you're in a premade odds are your group won't even be with you, let alone be all melee.
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just did 7 flips in a row
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>>563694415
yea
they delay the announcement for another 3-5 days
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Turtle is moving to the ascension launcher.
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Moppy waiting room
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>>563697753
you can play moppy right now without waiting though?
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>>563698130
lol
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Akalix told the court he made no money.
Blizzard showed Akalix his statements saying he has the most knowledge of turtle money and challenged him to corroborate which dragged Afkcraft into it.
Afkcraft, facing subpoenas with adverse costs gave up the paper trail which guaranteed RICO.
Settlement.
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>>563698612
Why did they hire this retard to be the CM? He said a lot of stupid shit in the discord and advertised TWoW on his linkedin, plus more importantly being in Michigan means hes so easy for Blizzard to hold hostage.
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>>563698943
Akalix licked the most ass but has no talents so Shenna threw her capo a pity job.
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Reminder Akalix said he had proof Torta was not Shenna
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>>563698943
Woman CEO cared about customer service during US hours
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>>563699603
Dumb because Americans barely play private servers.
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so...epoch?
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>>563704073
can't be assed to do vanilla 1x leveling again so I'm waiting for mop fresh or tauri legion
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Is there a list of compatible addons for epoch? I guess any wotlk addon will work? I just want a swing timer and cooldown numbers
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>>563704729
yeah any wotlk addon should be compatible
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EPOCH LEVELING IS GARBAGE
its the worst fucking shit i've ever played
they BUFFED ALL THE MOBS
every single mob has increase health, increased damage, AND SPELLS
the world is tuned expecting you to level IN A PARTY OF +3
SO NOW THAT THEY HAVE 100 POP THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE
you have to grind green mobs to level because they gave them such op shit that a random mob your same level will WIN THE 1V1
stupid fucks
you cant make the entire world require a group, its beyond stupid, theres a reason not even vanilla did that
I'm at lvl 15 now and I havent crossed another single fucking person yet, already 4 quests i've had to just abandon because they are completely impossible solo, even outleveling them
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>>563704073
Epoch!

The new quests and dungeon additions are great so far. I purposefully haven't installed Atlasloot so every new drop is a complete surprise which is fun. Playerbase on Kezan is very friendly, /world feels more alive and chatty than Turtle. Highly recommend starting now as the majority of its playerbase is 1-30 at the moment.

>>563704729
https://project-epoch-wow.fandom.com/wiki/AddOns

For swing timer try Quartz, cooldown OmniCC.

If using Pfquest make sure to use the Epoch converted one from Cuddlehorn the regular Wotlk one will lag your game to shit
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playing turtle wow and there is this hunter in kara10 with +2 fire damage with melee attacks on most of his gear and is doing a lot of damage, is this an actual build that i can try or im getting fooled by a gm? tried asking him but he was dismissive about it
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>>563705056
its some bug with shaman flametongue totem i think
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>>563704863
>>563704964
Thanks homies
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>>563704938
right now I have a quest to kill 24 level 13-14 mobs
I have 350 hp
the mobs come exclusively in packs of 2
every one of these mobs hits me for 60 hp
and they cast an instant 1s stun that deals 100 hp
these are not elite mobs
the only way i've gotten this far is suiciding to kill 1 mob, dying, rezzing, repeating
gaytotes was a fucking retard and its a good thing his server died on the vine, this shit is an abomination
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>>563704938
>>563705218
Posts screenshots of these mobs and their damage please
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>>563704938
>>563705218
I'm only level 20 so far but this hasn't been my experience at all. Only difference I've noticed so far is the addition of some extra rare mobs in the barrens, it hasn't been any harder than levelling on turtle was recently
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>>563705056
post his name so we can look him up in armory
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>>563705190
>>563705410
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>>563704964
>/world feels more alive and chatty than Turtle.

I get you want people to play Epoch but don't lie, 90% of the players are 60 just sitting around waiting for something to happen.
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>>563705432
the fiery weapon is proccing blade of eternal darkness, which does 100 damage and also gives 100 mana
sounds comfy for farming but 428 dps isn't good lol
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>>563704938
I would say the big thing is they made more quests elite which is a problem in low pop. Some of my guildies started to drop their alts due to this and struggling to find dungeon groups when the pop started to go below 1000.
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>>563705582
Because no one is playing there isn't any LFG spam in /world, so it feels more cosy and conversational despite being much quieter
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>>563705432
gay, spic and playing a warrior, what a combo
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>>563705626
thats the overall damage, we were close on single target
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>>563705432
Indendosaur set is good for Feral as well if i remember right.
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>>563705302
It's the stonesplitter troggs in loch modan, I've aleady fucked off to never return
dun morogh had some stupid quests too that were clearly intended to be done with a group
you have to avoid anything other than human/orc leveling zones because they were never tested
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>>563705728
im not gay
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>>563680528
Not what happened, we had half the team on offense and laughed at you for failing to grab the gy and backdoor, seethe more brahar.
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>>563705820
>calling yourself "the tasty cock"
>n-no im not gay
yeah right
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>>563705893
i also have this lock
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threadschizo was right, we do have a argensimian among us
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i dont frequent this general, i posted a bit 2 months ago when a druid had a meltdown because i needed wc pants with my warrior
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>less than 2000 players on Nordanaar and Ambershire
>server admins Missing in Action
>discord on fire and forced into Slow Mode
>donation shop still down
>launcher proxy still down
>China outright refusing to close and thieving from the biggest pair of thieves in the scene
>announcement delayed after delayed after delayed as they scramble to get their money out of Hong Kong like rats on a sinking ship
A slow death. One might say.. A Turtle's death...
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>>563706217
Slow and steady wins the r-ACK!
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I am not leaving Turtle

My Boyfriend won't allow it
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That fucking animal Skoll, I can't even say his name...
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My name is Harryretpal MOTHERFUCK
>*BANG BANG BANG*
LET ME INNNN!! LET ME LOG IN!!!
>*DING-DING-DING BAM BAM*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
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>>563707148
looks like tucker...
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>can't have thick nelfies
>no MC yet
>players may get randomly trogg'd
>shadow priest sucks
>no new zones
>majority of "new blood" is bored 60 on alts
>abandoned by ascension, no future
>all my pochie pals: MIA
is this your strongest soldier wpsg
are we truly finished
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>can't send my own bankalt on the same account some gold
retarded ass server
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>every server degraded into raidwank
i just want comfy openworld leveling
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>>563706590
Why is this allowed but naming yourself leakycage isn't, Gramble?
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Crogge release the announcement already you absolute piece of shit. Have some decency or get remembered worse than Kaytotes. Fucking imbecile bag of goblin shit.
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>>563698130
Everybody is sick of Aggrend's MoP funserver where they make up class balance, tuning and PVP mechanics only to completely abandon it.
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Does pochie still exist? I haven't played on a private server since the first several weeks of its launch (real).
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>>563707827
every leveling ends at cap...
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>>563708037
yeah, it's pretty dead but slowly gaining players now that turtle's future is uncertain
I don't know if they have devs though
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>>563708037
I am levelling on it now, it is pretty dead but seems like it'll be the only game in town when (if?) turtle gets die
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>>563708239
Levelcap gameplay in wow sucks tho.
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>>563707827
BBC+ has prestige among a ton of other shit
I sort of liked the new open world stuff they had but everything else about it turned me off pretty hard
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>>563708324
maybe but it's either raidwank or domination competition or mix of two and we invented nothing better to make us subbed
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Sorry the announcement is late. Gotta stay flexible, you know what I'm sayin'?
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>>563708407
dutch must release bbc- for turtle refugees
just bbc but without all that annoying ascension bullshit
if he sprinkles it with 1:1 turtle shop on top it will be THE server.
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>>563708713
he will never do that bro
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>>563708809
I don't know whats going in his head but trying to cram ascension gogogo fans and niller+ itslejorney folks into one server does not sound like a good idea
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>>563705432
>>563705626
>>563705432
i think i figured it out, each instance of add X damage to your melee attacks can proc blade of eternal darkness, he had 9 separate instances of that effect not counting the proc chances from items, so every attack has 9 chances to proc blade of eternal darkness
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>>563707873
gramble LOVES dog dick
this is okay, because I do too
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>>563706761
skoll and sylma were the cutest couple /wpsg/ ever had
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my ascension client is telling me its not a valid 32 bit application, what the fuck happened i want to RUNEMASTA . is this a personal issue or did they fuck something up like requiring a newer version of windows?
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>>563708927
that sentiment was shared by a lot of people
their youtube comments and even on the discord they had people telling them that it was retarded to have all that cool open world shit and then ruin it with in-your-face cash shop items and retail lite systems
I played it for a bit at launch and thought the cash shop wouldn't be a big deal, but when they enabled it after like a week it was so fucking cancer. I had vastly underestimated the average ascension whale
I stopped playing shortly after that
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>>563707873
Gramble is a zoophile furfag.
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>>563708713
The problem with dutch is that will only give them him some of the money, dutch wants all the money and low impulse individuals who only care about being able to play whatever version of wow on easy mode will always and I mean always pay. Dutch is just happy to collect.
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>>563710008
based
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If Branded gkicks Pupset (actual dog rapist) I will leave Evil and join it.
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wow sounds like a bunch of shit I don't care about
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Insane to me that anyone would be loyal to Shenna and Crogge of all people
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>>563708713
Dutch can just advertise Epoch again. Don't even need fresh servers cause it's pre MC.
Turtle refugees won't like Ascension, it's just retail -
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Already bored as hell at lvl 25 of slow&steady. Constant travel between barrens/stonetalon/hillsbrad/ashenvale for 1-2 quests at a time is such a chore.
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Don't think i saw a single dwarf on turtle in crossfaction zones.
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Blizzard will never be able to make anything as beautiful as Thalassian Highlands or Northwind or Balor
Even Turtle's Gilneas looks so much better
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>>563704938
>garbage
you misspelled fantastic and refreshing.
go back to retail if you want to steamroll the open world.
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>>563704938
>EPOCH LEVELING
Why are you playing on a dead server?
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>>563711463
the user behind this post has over 18 terabytes of CSAM and should actually be reported to the authorities
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Hows the story in Turtle WoW? I know they are doing an AU so I'm curious. It's probably already better than Midnight but on its own how is it and what changes did they make? I heard that they kill Genn Greymane in a dungeon so I am mostly curious what else happens differently
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>>563713481
>Hows the story in Turtle WoW?
An afterthought.
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Is it a good sign if the co owner is saying
>you can be lucky if you don’t have to pay very large sums to cover damages
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>>563711914
Doesn't help they nerfed dungeon XP and Nerfed rested xp.
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>>563713481
They kinda have a few interesting stories but nothing crazy
Northwind/ Balor is entirely self-contained and has one long quest chain across the two zones
Gilneas is good, albeit just more "dragon corrupts human kingdom" ala onyxia
The elves have a breadcrumb story about kaelthas actually being a good guy and coming back from outland to restore silvermoon... that we'll never see...
Other than that there isnt much
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>>563713481
>Hows the story in Turtle WoW?
Its aight. 3.6 Rontgen.
>I heard that they kill Genn Greymane in a dungeon so I am mostly curious what else happens differently
The Genn/Gilneas lore is some of the better stuff they have. It's quite sad but Genn has always been an incompetent moron so it fits his character.
>Gilneas builds the wall
>Isolationist shennanigans
>Worgen become a problem
>State of emergency
>Nobles try to take adventage of the situation to consolidate their own power. Abduct Liam Gerymane (Genn's only son and heir) and convince Genn that he died.
>Genn slowly goes insane from grief >Nobility uses his insanity as a reason to strip the crown of its power and redistribute it amongs themselves while Genn pretty much entirely loses his grasp on reality
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>>563714382
Then the two nobles controlling Genn turn out to be black dragons
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>>563713481
Genn kinda goes the way of Theoden in LotR where he's become a husk of his former self because of manipulative advisors. Except we have no way to fix him, so we have to kill him instead so his son can take the throne. It's painted in a very tragic way and is as much of a mercy kill as it is deposing a tyrant.
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is turtle dead yet?
where is the announcement?
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>>563715063
they delayed it 7 days, it's in some half dead state, people suspecting closure aren't logging in people who don't care keep playing and people uncertain are flipflopping.
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>>563715242
>it's in some half dead state
I'm leveling right now and every zone is heavily populated.
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>>563715063
Soon™
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>still no vanilla private server with gnome paladin or shaman
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>>563715063
crogge had to delay the announcement by a few days and is saying shit like >>563713952
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>>563713952
uh oh
>>563715513
it's ogre
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>>563715736
It is so fucking joever
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Reminder: Tel’abim was considered a “dead server” because it regularly had the same numbers Ambershire and Nordanaar have sunk to now.
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>>563715242
>make an announcement that you'll make an announcement in two days
>two days pass
>announce you'll make another announcement in seven days
Meanwhile, Turtle Wow burns.
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>>563716402
makes you wonder what's up
are they milking the last bit of cash before bailing? are they working on some big huge deal to transfer the servers or partner with some other group? are they getting high and fucking each other in the ass all day?
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>>563716637
>are they milking the last bit of cash before bailing?
Hard to do with donations disabled.
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The announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqRAt4snz_w
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>>563716678
not that hard when you can generate characters and gold and sell them
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>>563713952
He is explaining that it is very unlikely that people in these positions get paid off, because retards like you think this is common, same thing was said about gaytotes.
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>>563715513
twow got paid off they know torta is in russia and cant be stopped
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>>563716637
>are they working on some big huge deal to transfer the servers or partner with some other group
considering they signed a judgement saying they won't transfer any assets, it's over
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>>563716742
dutch is the one who paid off fagtotes to leave.
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The leaks are saying turtle will be allowed to continue to operate if they pay blizzard 60% of their revenue. It's the same deal Dutch has.
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>>563717409
this makes the most sense, why else go after turtle but not ascension & warmane who both make more money.
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>>563717409
absolute copium nonsense
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>>563717501
>why else go after turtle
because Blizzard isn't making a classless server, its too much work, and warmane is just a stock wotlk server
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The leaks are saying Turtle will be allowed to continue to operate if they provide Blizzard with the complete Skoll/Sylma logs.
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>>563717571
Bronzebeard and epoch were ascensions attempts to cash in on cllassic+ BB is slop but ascension did do a lot of work on it.
after TBC anni is done they'll do Wotlk anni
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>>563717409
I saw that leak too. I don't know if it's real. The part about Crogge needing to start HRT and become Bobby's slave seems weird.
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i'm not a doing a "challenge" ever again, shit's boring asf
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>>563718204
redpill me
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>>563718204
Yea the rewards just aren't worth it anymore.
Not since shenna killed people doing alt boosting on SS for shennacoins
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The leaks are saying Turtle will be allowed to continue to operate if they provide me with a harem of barefoot elves.
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A schizo made this thing https://theshellcase.io/ that scrapes relevant sites and evaluates statements in support or against twow/blizzard. It's well made
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>>563718549
>ai generated site
>YO DUDE BUT WHAT DOES TWITTER THINK ABOUT THE CASE?
Blizzard's employees were doing rapes and nobody gave a fuck.
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based blizzard of past
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they were making better games when they were rapists it's weird.
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>>563719451
>ambershire deleted
based
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>>563719451
could something like this actually be done? kek
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I wonder what the erp freaks will do when their degen sex simulator closes down.
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>>563719620
how many people would submit their face to some private server russians/chinks? you'd have to restrict it to europe and the anglosphere and ban all vpns but even then a few would slip through the cracks
also browns and chinks are whales and might boycott turtle in protest so no money
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>>563719646
Go back to Moon Guard
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>>563719646
Go back to my futa femra
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>leveling on Pochie
>already got gifted seven 14 slot bags and 30 gold
>ran more dungeons than I ever did on Turtle
>with actual English speaking people
>who communicate and CC
>join group and there's already 3 people ready to summon, no Juanitopally in Stormwind going "summ?? Summ???"
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>>563719832
>>563719620
I would just AI generate a face
>then we'll make you video
I'd AI generate a video
I could AI generate an alien hand right now, in fact fuck it.
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>>563719991
This might be Epoch propaganda.
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>>563709718
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA HELP
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>>563717409
If blizzard helps them port the game to the classic client then thats a good deal.
But i doubt that, this is not about money, blizzard cant let some modders humiliate them by making a better game day after day.
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>>563719646
>I wonder what the erp freaks will do when their degen sex simulator closes down.
F-list
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>>563719991
The best part of Epoch is the summoning stones.
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>>563720539
It's never going to happen. Blizzard letting the private server that humiliated them keep running as long as they pay them a monthly bribe would be absurdly bad PR. Retail players would hate it and call Blizzard weak and Turtle players would hate it because they hate Blizzard. Not to mention the legality, I doubt Microsoft wants any part of that.
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>>563718274
i'm doing the crafting challenge and i don't get any xp in bgs, i am not incentivized to play dungeons too, i can't use the tabard
it's just not worth it, too much masochism
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>>563720748
What do you get for doing this?
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Stop playing *po**.
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>troontle this
>Ecuck that
>BBC+ sissy hypno that
Enough nilla autism and "plus" slop.
Come home white man.
Northrend beckons.
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>>563720815
portable moonwell, it's just not worth it idk why i went for it. thought it would be funny
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>>563720556
Taurens don't look like that thobeit
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>>563720912
>Flap
>Flap
>Flap
>Crash
>Breathe
>rrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRROOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAARRRRREEEE
>Flap
>Flap
>Flap
Wrathbaby 4 life
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>>563720912
okay but what server
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>>563720912
where? molten?
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Is turtle shutting down a big W for epoch? Will it be gigahyped again?
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Epoch relaunch today! Get ready to see epoch in the triple digits!
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>>563720997
Tauren can look like that if they want to and dedicate themselves to the grind...
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>>563721132
Replace epoch with retail in your sentence and your answer becomes obvious
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>>563716637
The SEA and Chinese server owners wont comply is what I heard, which night bring even more trouble for the western team
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>>563698612
show proof or stfu
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>>563721207
not the same target audience? I would never stop turtle to go retail wtf?
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>>563720912
There's no good wrather servers either tho...
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>>563718549
>using ai to cope
Yes… Hahaha… Yes!
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>hear Bronzebeard has some custom areas and additions
>Excited to try it
>See they have F*saken paladins
Aaaaaaand dropped. I would rather go down with Turtle
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>>563721383
An undead fighting for justice from beyond the grave is the ludoest shit ever you wouldn't get it.
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>>563720912
Name 1 (one) server
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i miss draenei and naaru on turtle
i prefer all of this over high elves
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Frostmourne :^]
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Did ascension remove the item to leave turds on the ground? I know it was causing lag but I miss leaving turds on the floor of Ironforge.
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What is the best strategy to find female players in this game?
Since it doesnt have partyfinder like ff14
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>>563723258
Just be upfront about it in world chat.
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>>563723258
Most of them are going to be trannies.
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Does anyone here play Warmane ?
I started playing it this week because /wowg/ recommended it
but I saw everyone here just talks about turtle and epoch
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>>563689326
a tiny island a stonetoss off the coast of tanaris south of the pirate base
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>>563720912
WotLK is where wow went downhill
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There is literally zero reason for Ascension to not just take all of the Epoch content and slap it into their main server, it's odd that they haven't.
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>>563723616
People don't tend to like warmane here for three reasons.
>People have played a lot of stock Wrath of the lich king.
>They're fucking brokies
>Warmane players are human refuse.
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>>563723813
It's odd that they didn't shut that clownshow down completely.
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>>563724017
There's no reason to, it's free money.
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>>563723776
If you watch youtube video essays made by trannies maybe
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>>563723813
Kaytotes coded it all in some ancient script just to spite people. it'd be incredibly long and tedious to transfer it.
He refused to use azeroth core becasue he didn't want people taking his custom quests so instead he used some old fucking rip of trinity score and did it all in type script, you don't hate kaytotes enough.
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>>563724094
Just noggit the areas in, how hard could it be?
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>>563724017
Their strategy of buying Epoch to funnel into BBC worked really well. Even on 4chan, the Epoch general turned into the BBC general. And it seems like it was similar for the general populace, check some random discord account on Epoch discord server who posted around server opening and you will find them now posting about BBC on Ascension discord server.
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>>563724274
Too bad BBC is essentially retal- and not vanilla+.
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>>563724363
You keep saying this, but it plays nothing like retail. Retail is actually fun, BBC+ is one button bullshit.
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>>563723616
warmane's players are literal subhumans who will ask you to have raid gear to start doing heroic dungeons
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>>563679985
BLIZZDRONES BTFO
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BBC + is like take vanilla class design but retail world and dungeon design.
it's the best of both worlds.
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>>563724363
Yet they still played it and made money for Ascension, either by directly buying shit or by trading with a player who bought stuff.
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>>563724497
The worst of both worlds, more like.
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>>563724094
>Kaytotes coded it all in some ancient script
it's just typescript
>He refused to use azeroth core becasue he didn't want people taking his custom quests
this is true
>>563724497
then why did the general die in less than 3 days if it's so "good"
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>>563724497
>vanilla class design but retail world and dungeon design
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It feels like all the white people fled Turtle Wow. Every group I’ve gotten lately has been full of ESLs. World chat is barely coherent. 2000 players but only ten speak English fluently.
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>>563724585
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/BronzeBeard/type/op/
22 threads spanning two months
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Bronzebeard doesn't even have retail world deisgn. Retail zones are dynamic theme park attractions. Bronzebeard just takes the vanilla world and slaps free loot everywhere. Where are the pointless things?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgyudqNKD0E
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>>563724585
>then why did the general die in less than 3 days if it's so "good"
Dutch is a retard but it's not entirely his fault, Dutch doesn't have a clue what people want in a classic + server or maybe he does and he figured out it wouldn't make enough money for him.
The players deineftly don't know what they want from a classic + experience but they know what they don't want, BBC+.

BBC+ version of classsic + is like eating and healthy breakfast only to eat a tub of lard.
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>>563724840
where is the general now? why did the last 2 threads not even hit bump limit?
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>>563724274
BBC+ replaced Epoch because people realized Epoch was going to get zero development and was essentially the next Vanilla+ where it dies because it’s vaporware upon release. It’s only held on this long because it was good enough that some people powered through, enough so to warrant some updates. But basically Epoch was strangled in the crib for an inferior server which despite getting all the development has failed to capture players because it’s too retail.
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>>563725019
It died. The other anon is pointing out it lasted far more than three days.
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>>563725150
It's not retail enough to be fun to play, but it's too retail for the classic junkies.
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So where's the announcement huh? Is Bowser shitting himself because he told the chinese to shut it down and they told him to fuck off?
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>>563725267
The problem is it’s stuck in this weird place. I think it’s too vanilla for the retailbabbies and too retail for the vanillauncs.
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>>563725291
I refuse to believe he thought he could control them.
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>>563720539
It's not better. It's 1.12 with extra raids.
The classes are shit, the writing is shit, the custom areas are not tuned correctly, pvp changes are fucked. Nothing works correctly after patches, they make rafts of changes and don't even update the tooltips for the spells so you never know how anything works. The economy is a piece of shit. The players are all trannies with severe speech impediments, they believe anything they're told, rumours dominate thought, and they all spend much more money than retail players
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If Blizzard makes Classic+ and does a lot of what Turtle did like high elves while doing stuff they wouldn’t do like a monk spec for Priests and ogres and necromancers and Outlands raids then I’ll play Classic+.
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>>563725438
Truth nuke
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>>563725417
Well if the leaks are real that's exactly what happened.
It's honestly deserved after they let the gooks dominate turtle that they in turn get dominated by them. I hope it ruins his life over a fan recreation of a 20 year old video game.
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>>563722123
i hope they did. could you imagine the degenerate subhumans in this thread with that?
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you are a barely walking turd and every wpsg player is the same
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legion servers?
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Did they roll back some of Epoch (balance) changes? Playing warrior on it was hell, rage gen was bricked and some skills weren't firing properly
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>>563726090
>, rage gen was bricked and some skills weren't firing properly
that was a bug and was fixed a long time ago
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>>563726090
>skills weren't firing properly
That's epochs main feature.
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>>563725584
>if blizzard makes a good product
Bro, they greenlit SoD.
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Guys you didn't hear it from me but I know for a fact blizzard is going to offer the turtle team a position to work for them and basically start a turtle fresh in blizzard's client
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Shenna status?
Coa status?
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Do we have any guilds on Epoch? Just started now, looks fun
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The announcement will be posted today. It will be about moving servers to another country.
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I keep dying on epoch.
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you are not shilling hard enough
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>>563726156
That's good to hear, how about everything else? Heard game was pretty unbalanced at launch
>>563726243
Guess so..
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I have no interest in playing project epoch
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Lmao okay, we're editing messages now?
Timeframe changed my ass. Turtle is fucked, I'm not gonna bother with it anymore
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Turtletrannies...are we in the grave tonight?
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im gonna play retail
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im gonna play synestria
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>>563726859
Yea Bowser shouldn't have said anything until they were prepared to make a statement.
Honestly maybe he shouldn't be talking at all, the settlement is confidential.
Him saying hypotheticals is already enough to get him into hot water.
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>>563726420
No way they would do that, they're too retarded to do something smart
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>>563727149
>Blizzard Turtle WoW
>50$ subscription
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>>563726893
they are in limbo
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>>563721383
if forsaken priests exist, forsaken paladins exist. if you want to be upset at anyone, be upset at blizzard.
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You are playing pochie with sovlplorers contract and/or sovl of iron, right anon?
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where are my troll paladins?
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>>563727351
Im playing lotro.
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>>563727493
Zased.
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>>563727336
Yeah, undead casting holy magick is hilarious.
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If there's no conquest or turtle tranny shutdown within the next 2 days I'm going to eat a poisonous potato
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>>563727721
nobody is playing this shit
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>>563727721
tf is this
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>>563727721
Bro stay the fuck away from CoA. I love(d) it and am looking forward to release but it is less than vaporware right now. They've missed 3 separate release times and it hasn't been updated in 3 months and the devs are completely silent except for one guy who does bugfixes (that he can't even push to live because they are apparently doing a super secret big update that is totally real and exists trust me bro).
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Nobody wants to play on servers hosting my favorite expansions, this sucks. I don't want to play on 50 flavors of classic + tbc. Wotlk sucks ass. Everything beyond gets interesting and the servers always end up as a wasteland like 1 month into the launch
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>>563728743
that's the fate of modern wow, rush through the content and then there is no reason to interact with it anymore
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>>563724763
Which realm?
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Okay I'm going to play on Tauri
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>>563726859
The announcement has to be greenlit by Lizzard's lawyers before they can post it.
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>>563727889
It was supposed to be out Q3 2025.
The bugfixes and teasers always felt like cope, when do you think this shit's going to be released?
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>>563729776
never the hype keeps all of ascension alive.
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>>563729776
Realistically, not till next year at the earliest. They are apparently working on a massive rework, yet no testing is being done because daddy dutch put them in the cuckshed for doing nothing, missing deadlines and constantly pissing people off by lying on the discord and reworking the classes every 3 months causing delays. They have been told they literally aren't allowed to post on the discord anymore until it's actually ready.
So they need to get this massive update out purely on internal testing (they are already behind schedule on this alone btw) then that shit will need to be actually tested and finely tuned.

All this because they decided to hire a fucking youtube guy that made ascension videos as a lead dev, by the way. I hope you somehow read this post and kill yourself Dooby you stupid nigger.
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>>563730241
who's dooby?
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>>563730383
The youtube guy. He made videos about ascension all the time and played it (very badly) so obviously he deserves to be a lead class designer for Conquest of Azeroth.
Project has been on a steady trajectory downwards ever since he joined as he reworks the classes every few months and 9 times out of 10 makes them worse and gayer.
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>>563725380
nah it's nothing like that. Epoch was popping, hitting server capacity every day, and then they got a C&D and collectively shat their pants and abandoned the server. Dutch picked it up but it clearly wasn't his first priority and he didn't have a team ready for it. That sucked all the air out of the server.
I'm still curious what happened to the Epoch devs - they had to have known they'd get a C&D. Blizz must have really rattled them somehow
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>>563727493 I'm playing The Long Dark
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>>563730751
>Epoch was popping, hitting server capacity every day, and then they got a C&D and collectively shat their pants and abandoned the server.
anon...
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>>563730751
They had already abandoned the server as soon as they gave the keys to Ascension. C&D was just a convenient excuse to make it official.
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So.... when's the next classic+ fresh?
>twow: dead
>pochie: dead
>ascension: dev hell
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What image should I use for the Epoch thread?
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>>563730751
>I'm still curious what happened to the Epoch devs - they had to have known they'd get a C&D. Blizz must have really rattled them somehow
If i was being charitable to kaytotes I'd say the turtle lawsuit scared the fuck out of him.
If i was being uncharitable I'd say kaytotes sold the entire project to dutch, and always planned to leave the project after failing to launch for 3 weeks and getting death threats after ruining his dev teams lives with a 3 week crunch because he was stubborn to use a modern core.
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>>563731224
I think that the team was totally unprepared for the attention they received, they didn't do any stress testing of their servers, they couldn't handle the wow community outside of their reddit fagbox and they didn't have the funds to deal with turtle ddosing, I honestly believe the C&D was fake and a way to weasel out of their dev obligations to the Ascension team after selling the project to them
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>>563730751
>got a C&D
Ah yes, that thing that totally happened
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>>563730751
There was no C&D, totes was all smug saying he would trash any blizzard mail.
When it became obvious that the server can handle 2k players at most he had two choices.
Stand firm and limit player numbers, causing tens of thousand of players who were already doxxing your staff and sending death threats to be even more pissed off.
Other option was to switch to an architecture more suitable for high player numbers, risking tons of bugs and everything breaking in the process (this is what happened).
They probably tried salvaging everything but realized soon that they have months of patching and fixing ahead of them, with an extremely angry community poking them in the back.
Who knows who took the initiative but dutch offered them an easy way out and they took it, giving us the C&D fairy tale as an excuse.
They are off the hook and dutch's BBC would no longer have a competitor.
The fact that totes was so quick to give up a passion project that he poured years into makes me believe that epoch is fucked beyond belief in terms of scripting and bugs, that is probably part of the reason why progress is so slow.
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>>563731531
>>I think that the team was totally unprepared for the attention they received
>let's advertise our server everywhere
>oh no, so many ppl
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>>563731148
I can't believe I have to go back to that bullshit.....
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>>563730751
Literally the only source of this alleged Epoch C&D came from Kaytotes himself seconds before he dropped from the project and vanished from the internet entirely. No court documents, no list of people that have been targeted, nothing. 100% chace it was just a convenient excuse to leave the project, either because it was sold to Ascension and/or he just couldn't handle the fallout of the disastrous launch anymore. There was definitely some foul play involved.
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>>563731721
Nobody could have known that the 100k accounts created for the beta or stress test or whatever would mean that many people are intersted in playing, its a mystery how that happened.
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>>563731224
Don’t forget that in an interview, Trannytotes literally said that lawsuits and C&D letters were meaningless, and that servers that shut down because of that were the ones that wanted to quit anyway and were just looking for an excuse.

Then what happened after the shitty launch? He sold it all to Dutch at the first sight of a C&D letter.

Words cannot describe how much I want to beat the shit out of that guy.
Don’t even get me started on how he was the first to disappear from the community during the first botched launch, always being caught playing Overwatch 2, dilating, sucking dick, anything but actually appearing to give a fuck about his “decade-long passion project.”
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Single
Player
Project
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>>563725584
I would need playable ogres, no RMT, no bots, no GDKP, and transmog to convince me to play nu blizzard classic+
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>>563728743
Nekofren..
But you are right, wish we got actual MoP/WoD/Legion servers for once, they fun
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>>563728743
Your fault for being a latefag
most of us have played through retail trash for a decade and everything after vanilla is what honestly ruined the game overall.
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>>563730751
its weird that no one has spilled the beans. Kaytotes is not the only one who dropped everything, there were like half a dozen who spent the last 5 years developing the game and they all left at the same time
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Turtle won.
Torta won.
Shenna won.
Fuck US Law, eat a dick nigger.
I'm goingg to be an aryan high elf forever, time to buy 5k usd worth of TOKENS HAHAHAHAHAAH
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>>563732935
is that you in the gif?
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>>563732935
>buy 5k usd worth of TOKENS
How?
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Why is it always some anons that say there was no c&d but never post proof of it? I suspect after the disastrous weeks he saw the state of the server with all the new bugs and gave up, who knows though, still a faggot move.
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>>563686519
Chat is this true? The priest numbers seem so low. I'll roll one on Saturday once I get free from my wagecage.
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>>563732935
Least mentally ill high elf player
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>>563686519
>>563733315
Warlock is insane right now but there are very few of them lol
I think it's true, it really looks like its always the same people rolling the same class/race combo all the time.
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>>563733315
You'll get free from your wagecage but you'll never get free from your cage.
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>>563725584
If they add playable Naga and Nerubians and Dryads I might reconsider.
>but armour
They can't even apply armour to humanoid races
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>>563733739
>but armour
>They can't even apply armour to humanoid races
Yeah the UH WE CANT HAVE THIS RACE BECAUSE ARMOR WOULDN'T WORK ON THEM!!! excuse died with the Dracqueers. What a fucking abomination.
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>>563732935
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I love when people say "They'll just use Crypto and you can still connect to the Russiakstan servers with a VPN!" as if 90% of people aren't instantly gonna 180 and leave when they hear either of those phrases.
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>>563733894
delete this
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so basically this entire problem is becasue an american joined the turtle wow dev team?
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>>563734701
the rest of the team were EU citizens, except Shenna who is russian, a jew and a kazakh.
>>563734015
Problem is they already signed a consent judgement and the judge stamped it.
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How many more weeks until Turtle shuts down?
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>>563734701
based retard

turtle's team is like 100 people, more are US and EU citizens
their money go through western banks
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If it costs $10k a month to run the servers and they have no source of revenue now how long can they realistically continue to go on after losing money to lawyers and losing China's support?
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>>563734701
It's not just that one US dev, according to bowser most if not all of the server's continued development is done by EU staff. So in this magic world where it somehow stays up they'll need to replace 90% of their staff with russians who never ever EVER want to leave Russia (if they ever do they will be nuked from orbit).
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TURTLE TRANNIES IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT
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>>563734939
>$10k a month
They have millions.
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>>563734939
>If
That's a big "if".
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>blizzard sent a C&D to a server that didnt manage to stay up longer than an hour for 3 weeks
and the tooth fairy is real and the pajeet cow shit cures cancer
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>>563734939
if they dont shut down completely by june whatever - they get sued into oblivion

>>563734828
2 months
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>>563734939
shenna wouldn't pay 10k$ to save your life let alone to keep the servers up
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>>563735121
we are so owning the turtledweebs when classic+ comes out!!!

we get to enjoy nu blizzard body type 1 & 2!!!
I bet half the npcs will be gay and use the new wheelchair model from dragonflight and imagine how many bots and boosters will spam trade chat its going to be soooooo good I cant wait we should roll together!!!!
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>>563730751
>Epoch was popping, hitting server capacity every day,
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Man it's a good thing the owner of Turtle is a nice person who has never run away with as much money as possible at the slightest inconvenience and runs WoW servers out of their own pocket purely for the love of the game!
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Everlook got c'n'd the same time as Epoch and shutdown EU servers.
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So what? I'll just keep running the servers!
What're they gonna do? Knock my house down? Serve another C&D? Fine me?
Well they'd have to find us first, all the US devs have been "fired" *wink* *wink* so they can't do anything to them.
As for me and the boys, we already got a secondary server running from Malta and are sipping on martinis surrounded by hot babes. FUCK US COURT
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rolled a lock on epoch, got to lv8 (seeing like 2 people along the way in the HUMAN staring zone btw) saving up money for my wand, search ah for wand weapontype and there are literally 5 on the entire ah, for the entire level range 1-60. not one single lesser magic wand. and the ones that ARE up are 10x more expensive than they should be for their level.

like i want an excuse to experience the epoch custom content since this'll probably be the last time ever that it'll have a population bump but this shit feels so dead, like deader than any server ive ever played

do you think the alt fest tomorrow will really help things? do you think the pop will go up much further consistently even if turtle stays dead? as ascension really gonna let slide this one last perfect opportunity to get literally anything out of epoch? idk bros i might just go back to horizonxi for my /comfy/ old mmo content unless someone convinces me to keep at this
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>>563733315
it's just census+ output, it is as accurate as /who scraping is
priest numbers are this low for a reason they are garbage
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Tuari question. What is this game on? Is this technically legion when it comes to class balancing and skills and whatever? If it's legion, then what patch? Pre-patch? Or is it still on the last patch of WoD? It changes quite a lot and I'm not sure which class to roll because of that. I'm trying to think what to do
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>>563736017
balance is last patch of legion
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>>563734939
bro they settled in court, in turtle doesn't close down blizzard takes ownership of shennas womb and they use her as a seed bed like in starcraft, it's over.
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>>563736136
Holy shit this is so fucked lmao
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>>563735924
Literally just ask. I'm level 19 and I have received three 14 slot bags and tons of gold from other players I came across. People were posting dozens of lesser wands for 30 copper to help out new players.
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>>563735707
Slightest inconvenience would be the lawsuit starting.
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>>563735924
>search ah for wand weapontype
You're supposed to treat it like hyperfresh and pick up enchanting lmao noob
Jokes aside, community "fresh" is cute, but it's still a relatively old server with already fucked economy even disregarding all that grave spamming bullshit, epl chests, hyperspawned ores and so forth.
If dutch intends to capitalize on total turtle death, he will relaunch epoch from point 0.
But right now, there is still no clear information whether TTD is even going to happen.
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>>563735696
server capacity of 500 players at most
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>>563736224
Wait this is actually so fucked I can't wrap my head around it. So you're saying that the game is still in Warlords of Draenor in terms of content but uses the last balance patch of legion, which is fundamentally based around so many different variables like artifacts, artifact skills and the things you socket into them and LEGENDARIES? Does this shit even work at all?
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>>563735924
Whats your name playa, I got some wands earlier for 30c off the AH i didn't buy them all out becasue im not a jew but i got 2 sets but leveling I doubt I'll actually do more than one character. this servers already kicking my ass, just give name and I'll send them to you.
or you could just ask world chat plenty of people will give you gold or bags and especially wands.
I doubt the server will "live" but I'll keep playing for the content.
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>>563736595
>fundamentally based around so many different variables like artifacts, artifact skills and the things you socket into them and LEGENDARIES
WoD was only released as part of the Legion core to serve as a prepatch bug finding period.
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>>563736956
That sounds both so fucked and interesting, now I'm even more thrilled to play. Too bad my favorite specs got gutted during Antorus
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>>563736550
KEK
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>>563736956
And "people" shill that garbage unironically lmao
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https://strawpoll.com/xVg71rmzzyr
Will toortol shutdown?
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>>563735214
That's possible but you're talking about operating a server for $120k a year plus the time you sink into it for zero return in the investment. It's just a money pit at that point.
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>>563735707
Anon, torta had way better moments to cash-out, why would he do it now?
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2 more weeks
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epstein here, just got off a call with my good friends putin and trump, turtle stays up if they move servers to russia and add loli variants to all the playable player races
peace
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>>563737413
they have the only good MoP core and are making the only good Legion core.
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>>563736595
>>563736017
Cute zenners.
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>>563732843
I rather chop my balls off than believe they actually spent 5 years working on epoch. Maybe theorycrafting about class changes and whatever but actual work? Lol no, not at all

>>563735924
The fresh start will be great. A lot of people from turtle will join.

But yeah only expect a huge spike on new players with TTD.
If turtle dies, and I really think it will, or at least become some chink only server, you'll see a massive shift of players going to epoch.

If Dutch is smart about it ascension can make a massive win here. I'm sure they're watching the situation 24/7.
Epoch is great right now, it literally just need players.
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you are the dumbest blackest gorilla nigger if you unorinically believe shenna and crogge that running turdle takes 5 digits in monthly costs
even if they run one seperate server for each realm they have, even if we count dead shit like the SA realm or tel'aviv costing as much as nord, you are not going over 5k in monthly hosting costs
the retarded tranny jannies and redditors they have as GMs do it for FREE or some turdle tokens
everything else ends up in shenna's and crogge's pockets which i assume to be around maybe 2-3k each
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>>563738238
working on it for 5 years doesn't mean they put in 10 hours of work every day, probably closer to 10 hours a week. Still strange to me that no one has spilled the beans
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they just move infrastructure and probably looking for some payment provider that does not want any real informations.. this either is dead of fully working with nobody to sue over in the future.
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>>563732670
Who's us nigga most people here didn't touch retail in over 10 years don't tell me you played anything post wrath bruh
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>>563738238
The thing is that Ascension is already thinned due to the manpower, CoA is getting shipped with no bullshit this time, there is nothing to remake it and all is recorded for release.
SS team is working hard on the new custom expansion and zones.
Wrath dev is dead.

And BBC is full on overhauling even the raids to look better and more modernized in visuals, Onyxia was nice and BWL looks gud.
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Can someone explain to me how turtle got fucked but Acension is getting away scot free?
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>>563738447
This kek.
I work with web hosting. Being extremely generous about it, their costs could be 5k yearly.

But, shitty Russian services? For just 3 realms? 5k MONTHLY? absolutely fucking not.

I can rent a server which will absolutely host 3 realms for around 200 euros /month.
Yeah sure, they have their websites, databases etc etc let's make it 3 servers. 4. Doesn't matter, there's still a huge gap here and it's not shennas rotten vag.
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>>563732502
>actual MoP/WoD/Legion servers for once
Tauri is the only one doing MoP & Legion.
Stormforge & Whitemane got the MoP core from them.
>>563728743
They take way too long to script, even Warmane gave up on their MoP server attempt.
There are 2 cata servers out there.
Only one running a MoP server right now is Stormforge.
WoD nobody does.
Legion is soon.. maybe... on Tauri.
Beyond that are russian cashgrab servers that are just auto complete everything and completely broken with tons of exploits.
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>>563739190
Ascension isn't (or rather, wasn't until recently with BB) stepping on Blizzard's toes with a Classic+ server, Ascension didn't heavily market and monetize the fact that they were stealing all of Blizzard's IP and remaking it in UE5 and Ascension didn't constantly blatantly shit on Blizzard in public and tweet their fucking staff saying how much better they are than them every other day.
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>>563738873
*slaps yo butte*
sybau and watch ur tone with me little mister
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>>563739436
Dutch knows the Private server business and rules.
Shenna broke all of the rules alongside epochfags
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Can I get a tauri guild invite
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>>563739143
>CoA is getting shipped with no bullshit this time
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>>563739635
just whisper anyone online
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>>563739190
Did they publicly taunt blizzard in every social media out there? Which triggered many mainstream articles about such taunts?
Or bought ads on social media?
Or made their community not shut up about their server, going to reddit and blizzard forums talk about how it's so much better than classic wow?

Turtle wow got way too cocky. The team seriously believed they were untouchable.
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>>563739143
>CoA is getting shipped
Holy fucking shit funniest thing I've read all day.
CoA is (was) great but that shit isn't coming out for at least another year.
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Doesn’t this mean Acension won everything? They did fucking nothing…
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>>563739143
They barely need to do anything for a long time though.
Just relaunch the server with ony, MC etc. 0 effort. They might need to fix shit here and there to launch BWL but it's minor stuff. It's not like they're building shot from the ground up like CoA
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>>563739812
they did buy ads on social media
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>>563739812
>Or bought ads on social media?
Ascension has more ads than turtle
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It really doesn't make sense for blizzard to target turtle over ascension or warmane.
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>>563731689
>Other option was to switch to an architecture more suitable for high player numbers, risking tons of bugs and everything breaking in the process (this is what happened).
So they fucked themselves from the start?
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>>563740861
Turdle asked for it and got FAFO
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>>563731224
>>563731689
>muh death threats
imagine believing this shit
someone found the facebook of a retarded lolcow discord janny who took himself super seriously (you know the type) and he had a bunch of lolcow photos with a fedora and shit
then all the trannies go "omggg dats DOXXING his life is RUINED that's a DEATH THREAT"
give me a break... get real.
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>>563733138
>Why don't you post proof that something with no proof of existing, doesn't exist?

Please utilise your brain better
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>>563740861
It does when you remember troondlefags needing to bring up their server every time someone brings up classic+.
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>2 more weeks bro-ACKKKKKKK

turtle wonned.

blizztroonies ACKed
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Keep shilling it.
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>>563741226
kaytotes stole peoples vacation time.
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https://strawpoll.com/7MZ0kRX31go
lets settle it once and for all
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Why don't you just play Retail like a normal girl?
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AAAIIIIEEEEEE BLIZZSXSTERS WHY ISNT TURTLE DOWN YET
I CANT TAKE HAVING A BETTER VERSION OF THE GAME OUT THERE THATS ACTUALLY MADE BY PASSIONATE PEOPLE AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE
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>>563743689
what the fuck is that thing
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>>563743926
Shut the fuck up, you are black.
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>>563743809
Lmao shenna is passionate about dicks and money, she doesn't give a shit about you or the community.
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>>563742084
So it's speculation passed around as truth, ok.
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>>563743926
Its one of Retails heccin new wholesome races the Dracthyr! They are le dragons! :3
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>>563743926
A dragon furry
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>>563743926
New race for transgender people so they can fulfill their desires of transitioning all the time. They have a boytoy form so they can take orc dick, and a scaly, meanie form so they can pretend to fight against white males and bigotry in general.
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so fucked up that they'd sell gold, pay-to-win features, and quality-of-life perks. what's next? a monthly subscription?
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>>563744073
rather be black and chill with my niggadins than see this
>>563744207
>>563744498
>>563744517
yuck
may light forgive me for uttering this sentence but helves were mild, tame and lore friendly
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>>563723616
server works exceptionally well.
but your playing with dead people.
dungeon finder pops, you have autistic tanks that rush through the game, not a word is said besides 'gg'. soulless is the one word i'd describe it.
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>>563743689
>>563744073
>>563744836
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>>563744836
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>>563744836
I'm sorry but Night Elves do not look like this and you cannot make them look like this.
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>>563744836
give me a hint
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>>563744163
Your mom has a big fat cock and you are infact a shitty anal baby, now post proof that this isn't true
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>>563745493
Didn't I play with you 2 days ago already?
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>>563744836
>>563745493
Just make one of her getting annihilated by orcs already
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>>563745670
Im afraid not but we can change that.
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>>563745402
You have to post proof of what you're claiming it's the truth first.
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>goonbait
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what server should i play?
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>nuking the tranny coomer filth
based jannies. you earned your keep today.
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>>563746461
Ambershire TurtleWoW message Aecheur in <Evil> we need a resto shaman
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Nothing ever happens.
I just want some news I really don't care what the news is I just want something to happen
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>>563746661
but turtle is dead and shamans cannot wear shoes
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>>563746461
play other games and wait for fresh moppykino
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>>563746661
Nodanaar TurtleWoW message Sylma in <Full Moon Company> we need a BM hunter
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>>563746661
nta but if turtle wasn't on the verge of shutting down I would make a resto shaman right now
Probably a male orc so after I get full ele gear after healing a bazillion raids I can make a chain lightning montage and get 5 million views on youtube
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1 year from now:

>Retarded Baiting Obese Brown Anonoid (32minutes ago) 1999959159:
>"troondle is getting lawsuited!! they will be losted!! this time its for real!!" (0 (You's))

>Anonymous 19859366839 (white):
>"QRD me on feral druid leveling? also what's the best strating zone?" (8 (You's))
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>>563747415
1 year from now blizzards classic+ will be dead like SoD after the streamers, RMT cartel, bots, and boostees devour it to death.
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More like:
>Chinkanonymous 84748274738:
>Ni hao ching chong ping pong
>Chinkanonymous 73647383737:
>Nao ho wong tiddy suksuk chong ma
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>>563746260
Exactly, you stupid faggot retard
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>>563746661
if turtle wasn't about to die I'd join as an ele shaman.
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how tf do u even do elite quest at a low pop server? Im at turtle and finding members for elites is already hard and infuriating and almost impossible when done solo
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>>563747914
Exactly, that's the whole point, no proof provided but still claiming as truth that there was never a c&d. Could it be true? Yeah, but nothing to back it up, so it's just speculation.
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How do you prove a negative?
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>>563748425
You can not.
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The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence.
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I'm killing hc garry tonight
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>>563748568
Can't, we can only guess what happened without knowing if it's true or false.
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Alright fuck it, just had a dungeon group so bad I don't even care if Turtle dies now.
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>>563749368
elaborate.
What dungeon?
What went wrong?
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>Epoch is actually going to win
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Mages on Epoch can summon a water elemental?
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>>563746661
What class does Aecheur need?
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if u hate blizzard u r trans
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>>563750160
Kurt Angle is Knotes learning that he ran out of Perc
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>>563750160
You won, tranny.
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I'm so happy that turtle is going to shutdown. This general is so toxic and filled with right wing retards who treat people like me like trash. So yeah, good riddance <3
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Keep saying it.
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>>563750160
>no pop
>no devs
>no content (server is over a year old and MC isnt out)
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>>563750160
>>563750501
>>563750820
Based.

>>563748724
>>563748568
>>563747415
Cringe.
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>>563750160
bro the warhammer online pserver has more players than epoch cmon man
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>she spent money on turtle
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>563748457
I'm going to give you a good faith assumption that you arent trolling and are just a little retarded, or at least spell this out for any other retards who might read this; the original assertion is gaytotes not giving any proof or indication that him receiving a C&D was truthful.

You, being the retard that you are, are insisting that the onus is on everyone else to prove a negative, i.e: you can't prove that it's not true, after someone made a claim without any proof that it is true.
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>>563748354
bak off lad that ele gear is MINE
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>>563744564
a pump and dump scam that goes on for 8 years?
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>>563746260
Nope, you have to prove that you aren't the shitty anal baby of a tranny mother, I don't need to give you any proof of the claim, the absence of proof isn't proof of absence, you are a shitty anal baby to a massive cocked tranny mother and any claim otherwise is pure speculation
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>>563750820
regardless of turtle shutting down I will continue calling you a worthless little faggot and you will cum handsfree in your little cage because of it
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>>563751064
you're right about the other things but it's only 7 months old
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>>563750820
make sure to buy a dozen tokens on retail as revenge
maybe snag a boost or two to really drive it home
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>>563748425
play ranger and you can solo even dungeons
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>>563748425
use bubble
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Can't wait for the announcement timeframe to be moved again. Based Chinks absolutely ruining Crogge's life.
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slow and steady wins the race... right Shenna?
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uhhhh....
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>>563753582
>420 people left on ambershire
grim
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>>563750382
yeah
abysmal hit though it will miss a lot on bosses unless they fixed it
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>>563753582
600+ this weekend, leveling zones are getting pretty packed it's not difficult all to get DM/WC groups too and the fact you can TELEPORT there via the stones with just 2 people there is such a QoL improvement. Epoch unironically won.
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>>563751581
Random guy
>I have a car but I won't show you
You:
>Random guy 100% doesn't have a car because he didn't show it to me.
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>>563753983
>and the fact you can TELEPORT there via the stones with just 2 people
aaii my kryptonite the summoning stone my class identity ruined t. warlock
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>>563753983
human pov
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>>563754115
it's TBC warlocks with seed, they are broken as fuck
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nothing ever happens
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POCHIE
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>>563754002
You were that kid in school who told everyone that you totally had a girlfriend from another school but noone can meet her because she just coincidentally went on holiday and you don't know when she'll be back
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>>563754409
Epoch warlocks got their chains yanked around a lot in the balance works with trying to change their demonology capstone into some weird cooldown that did no damage. Did that shit ever get fixed?
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>>563755178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLlLaJlk56k
kek
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>>563753582
Amber is currently at 5000
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Guys can we just unironically give Epoch a chance?
Just make a character and play tomorrow, if you don't like it that's totally okay. I would really appreciate it. We're all (mostly) anons here but to me, you're my friends (very cringe I know).
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>>563755721
this is not about amber, pop on the screenshot is epoch - it has 400% more people than 4 days ago
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>>563755930
how many are playing already? what classes are they playing? what classes do they need? what is the future of epoch? is there a guild yet? will they update it beyond improbable MC?
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>Turtol announces they are partnering with Ascension
>Dutch announces new server GreenShell that has goblin and high elf class, but it's not a direct competitor or anything
>Both Pochie and turtle never receive updates
>Dutch buys his 12th BMW
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you shills are so pathetic
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HIGIIIII
YOUR MOTHERFUCKER SERVER IS DOWN
GET THAT SHIT BACK UP, WE TRYNNA PLAY
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While I would hate for turtle to go down I'm okay with an Epoch renaissance. If only we could coexist.
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Your Free to Play Private server sir
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>>563753798
You just know she gargled on that knot
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Gave Turtle a try and wow the goblins really got fucked compared to the high elves
Do the goblins even have a capital?
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>>563756336
sizzlin'
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;)
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>>563756392
they don't even have AH
that's right you read it correctly, goblins don't even have AH
meanwhile h-elves have AH+bank+mail in one place.
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>>563756392
Horde is like 25% of the pop on this gay ERP server
you are not a priority
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>>563756540
to be fair, little lad.
The little goblin town is right outside orgrimmar
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>>563756392
>>563756540
Wanna know the most fucked up part?
GNOMES have an Auction House
Go to the Gnomeregan Reclamation Facility
They have an Auction House
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>>563756493
Post more pics like this, do not resist.
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>>563756052
How do people unironically shill a server with 100 players and a raid boss(singular)
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>>563756712
lets keep it real big boy goblin town without AH is FAKE.
>>563756734
salting the wound
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lol
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>>563756814
That's what the thread is for
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They took tauri down because they're adding legion right now
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what server should I join?

>>563756392
Goblins right, do not have an AH, Do not have rep gear, Not even a jewel crafting trainer on their starting island despite their race specialty being jewelcrafting.
They don't have a flightpoint, they do have a fucking boat to the middle of bum fukcking nowhere, not even a boat to tanaris so you can say ah cool goblin to goblin travel like BB and Ratchet, but a fucking boat to get this the fucking hinterlands, The fucking hinterlands derick.
I wish I could step on the neck of whoever made that city.
also blackstone island kinda sucks.
Great for ore I guess but i mean outside that genuinely boring place to quest in with no rhythm or reason, very poorly structured geographically, real lack of stand out places, honestly feels my like a TBC zone than a starting zone which is the only compliment I'm willing to give it.
also every makes high elves so those fucking iritating elite quests, relatively easy todo, no one makes goblins, good luck killing the elite and even if you do find someone else, guess FUCKING WHAT SOME ABOSOLUTE FUCKING MONKEY DECIDED THIS RACE NEEDS ZERO FUCKING HEALERS, NO PRIEST, NO SHAMAN SO FUCK YOU
WHAT FUCKING RODENTS
ENJOY DYING AND GETTING NO HEALS WHILE FACE TANKING AN ELITE NIGGERs
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>wanting to replay Legion
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>>563756848
The amount of people on this discord who think they've managed to outwit every lawyer on the planet with their insane hacks is honestly astounding.
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>>563756848
>that 2nd post
why didn't Al Capone just change his name
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>>563757258
Epoch
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>>563756848
some real 2000s/early 2010s humor right here
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>>563757258
Errmmm lorelette chuddy??? Goblin priests and goblin shamans dont make heccin sense *snap snap*
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>>563757623
um sorry what xister??? Goblin SHAMEN and SHAWOMEN are 110% lore FRIENDLY and have different interactions with elementals it's official its blizzard made BRO
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I came back so hard in last wsg that my game crashed. I wish You were there Anon.
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>>563757327
these are the people who will make fun of sovereign citizens, then go on discord to make the same tier of arguments as them
instead of "I am not beholden to the law, because that's not my real name." it's "that company is totally dissolved bro, we are actually another company now!"
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>>563757803
>blizzard made
Uhhh theres your issue ch-chuddy
Heccin LIZZARD doesnt know their own lore! Goblins dont have faith in anything
"Contracts with the elements?" Uhhh sorry chuddy but that makes no sense. Shamans are about cooperation with the elements!
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>>563756848
I’ve heard this Dunning-Kruger cope hundreds of times now. “They’re shutting down Turtle Wow? But we’re Turtle CRAFT now! Checkmate atheists.” Even sovereign citizens aren’t this retarded.
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Not gonna lie I’ve been jacking it to the slop elf. If I ever find her in game I’m zug zugging her so damn hard.
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>>563756336
SUFFAH SHENNA
SUFFAH CROGGE
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>>563758430
Im done for today but You will definitely get Your chance at the same time tomorrow.
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wanting to try epoch after a few months, patch fails at 140/150mb. lame.
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>>563757623
I rather like the idea of Goblin priests being televangelist-style miracle workers (who of course only work their miracles for coin). Not a fan of goblin shamans though.
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>>563758873
Better watch your back, elfie. When I catch you, I’m gonna put you in an Orcish mating press and make you humble.
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>>563758915
I can’t even get the login to work for the Ascension patcher. I fucking hate servers where I have to use their gay ass patcher because they never fucking work right.
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>500 players on Kezan
Pochie is so back
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>>563757623
>>563759015
they could just made goblin shamans more akin to corrupt or evil shamans who force the elements to do their bidding then given them custom lore quests about how they're going out of their way to forcefully take the power of the elements
>but you cannot do
yes you can
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come join us on Kezan!

epogepogepog
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>>563759436
I think it is more the primitive nature that doesn’t really match the Wow goblin nature. But you are right that there are shamans who force the elements to do their bidding within the lore of the game.
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>>563756832
technically you guys have gadgetzan also
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>>563759542
might redownload, but ascension's anti cheat logs all your tab's names btw
so don't have your sissy porn open or the GMs will see it
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fucking turtleshits get the fuck off my general, your shitty server is finished
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>>563759664
It doesn't match goblins, it would have taken a lot of leg work honestly to make it fit.
Probably much like blood elves had all those custom quests in TBC about how they we're stealing the power of the nauru imprisoned in silvermoon.
You may of needed a quest line where you help a goblin warlock track down and subdue powerful elemental, maybe make it even harder than typical shaman quests and justify it by saying this is an evil path for goblins so it's harder for you.
Earth totem can be the same.
Fire elemental is in RFC as a new zone boss so people will actually help you kill him.
Water elemental is in BFD
Air Elemental is in Wildhorn canyon
Also you got to betray and kill the warlock who sent you around doing this at one point that results in the elements saying, we dislike you less than we disliked him so for now we'll cooperate but we're going to smash your skull in at one point.
Not quite the TBC redemption of the blood elves arc but something kind of interesting, but I think the reality is the devs play high elves they don't play goblins.
So all that shit to justify it really would have come from someone who cares, or hell maybe instead of kill elementals you just kill shamans and steal their totems,
kill and ogre, quill-boar and whatever race hogger is shaman. and you just loot the earth totem from a dead troll trainee, and instead of forcing them you're basically tricking the elements into thinking you're the original owner.
but again doing any of this shit would require someone to want to do extra work to just make the goblin starting experience feel smoother.
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>>563759542
dev status?
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>>563760653
>dev status?
absent
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>>563759015
I like goblin shamans. I think goblins viewing elementals as just another race that they can make deals with fits very well, and exchanging power for services fits them pretty well.
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>>563761128
grim
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Keep shilling it.
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what server do i roll?
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>>563761625
paymane
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>Finally decide to try healing
>Roll a priest
>Run two dungeons
>Both of them full of the most retarded niggers imaginable
I'm giving this shit one more try before shelving the healing role forever.
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>>563759710
What happens if you're running it through steam proton?
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>>563760278
Me as illidan
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>>563761915
>anon discover why nobody level as healer
It only works with RDF and even then is slower outside FRESH servers.
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>>563762479
But I love leveling as a healer...
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>>563762660
So do I, but, again, it only really works during the initial rush.
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Class for a zesty orc?
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>>563762660
So do i. but you need a fresh wave of players or a tank buddy to make it work...
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>>563761915
Ghostly?
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T-two more weeks blizzsxsters trust in the plan
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>>563761298
elementals aren't just another race, they work more on a spiritual level where intentions and symbolism have meaning, whoring out your powers to some green kike for gold doesnt fit them.
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>>563764268
I dont think they use gold to bribe the elementals
I think their contracts are more "you help me with X and I help you with Y"

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