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>Recent News
Blizzard & Turtle WoW have settled, official announcement maybe in 2 days.
https://whitemane.org/en/news/whitemane-2
MoP (June 6) & TBC Fresh soon!

>Released Servers
Turtle WoW - https://turtlecraft.gg (Vanilla+)
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (Vanilla World+Retail, Classless, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (WOTLK)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (WoD on Legion client, Legion content coming soon)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)
Stormforge - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC, WOTLK+, MoP)

>Active Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, then whisper anyone for an invite. If you search Evil, sort by "Guild" (not "Zone") to filter the list.
<gulag> - Tauri, Evermoon realm, Alliance
<Evil> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, raids at 18:00 server time
<Branded> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire realm, crossfaction, raids at 20:00 server time >>>/trash/heals guild

>BBC+
https://github.com/ascensionhandynotespoi/HandyNotes_Ascension_POI
https://bronzebeardmaps.pages.dev/

>Turtle
All Turtle addons (copy & paste github links on the launcher) - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtlecraft.gg | https://talents.turtlecraft.gg | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtletimers.com

>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/9C4nXnUC

>Previous Thread
>>563679985
+Showing all 257 replies.
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Why do you chuds want turtle wow to die?
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I think turtle is closing down so i'm going to roll on a wotlk server. can anyone tell me about class balance?
i've only ever played vanilla through private servers and have never played wow via blizzard or any other wow expansion.
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Trans rights are human rights.
Copyright law is fascism.
Trump is Hitler.
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>>563787984
You can play most anything in Wrath, although there are obviously disparities between any given spec. Is there something in particular that you want to play? Would be easier to then say "yeah, this is pretty good" vs "sorry, this sucks".
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Now that the dust has settled, I think we can all agree drakes as mounts on a server with no flying look fucking stupid
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This is what Shenna is buying with your money
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>>563787983
I don't want it to die, I just want to know whether it is dead or not
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>>563787984
I assume it's 3.3.5. Most things are viable but stuff like Ret Paladins and DPS warriors really struggle until they get really high end gear. If you want an easy one size fits all, DKs are broken as fuck.
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>>563787984
WotLK is the peak casual player expansion. Every class is viable and piss easy to play and all content is piss easy to clear so just do whatever you want.
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>>563788132
How are druid/ death knight tanks?
Is feral (dps) still autistic to play like in vanilla?
It's a tank or I'll just play warlock I guess, love warlock.
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>>563788196
Only if you agree that goblins were oppressed.
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>>563788196
if you agree goblins were oppressed I'll agree drakes were stupid.
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>>563788320
That doesn't look like vacations in Montenigger, newfriend.
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>>563788408
google wrath feral flowchart.

JOHN FUCKING MADDEN
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>>563788710
an ancient classic kek
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>>563788658
Who is this person?
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>>563788408
>Druid/DK tank
You'll have no problem playing either of these.
>Feral DPS
Different kind of autistic. One of the hardest specs, but it's not like it's brain-breakingly difficult. If you're interested in Feral Druid you'll be fine.
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I'm still fuming that we did not see goblin priests selling holy* water
*may backfire and treat you like undead when thrown with 20% chance
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>>563788807
Crogge 3 months into HRT.
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>>563787983
It's gonna be a busy month for funeral homes (tombstones engraved with birth names, no exceptions)
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>>563788573
>>563788648
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4jv6li0N7k
how long has this been going on?
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>>563788964
man this upsets me.
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>>563788964
This image fills me with a kind of belligerent rage.
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just ninjalooted this, what do we think? the server is shutting down anyway.
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>>563788964
I am mildly annoyed when I look at this image
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>>563789249
we don't get kino like this anymored.
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why did someone put a bot to post in our general
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>>563788964
LEAVE MY WIFE ALONE
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>>563789360
>what do we think?
That you are a nigger, of course.
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>>563789360
nice, burn it all down.
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>>563790124
why are you so angry? I am the tank so I get to decide what I will do with the loot.
I will see if the scythe wants to drop today.
if it does, then I will take it. I don't care.
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>>563790338
>if it does, then I will take it. I don't care.
you have the power do it.
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>>563791637
damn girl lay off the mana bisquits!
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None of the rules matter anymore.
Go wild.
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Yeah guys idk if I can play epoch. There's just not enough players and you're playing on pure hopium the dev team will eventually care enough to add more content, I don't wanna get stuck raiding MC for months.
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>>563793835
>he thinks epoch will get MC in the first place
heh...
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>people glazing retail on BBC+ chat
Where did all these blizzjeets come from
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>>563793926
they took all the earnings from the lawsuit to hire a bunch of jeets to scatter across pservers as shills
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Shut it all down.
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so, where are /we/ REALLY going if and when turtle shuts down?
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>>563795402
Back to retail
GLOBOFOMO welcomes all 4channers
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>>563795402
Azerotica
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>>563795402
i just go wherever the plaps are posted
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>>563795662
My retail character is actually in Nerub Silkweaving forum.
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>>563795402
>Epoch
>Kronos 5
>Tauri
>Stormforge/Warmane
>Ascension slop (lmao)
Pick your poison.
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Are players better on Nord because holy shit low level dungeons on Amber make me want to kill myself
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>>563795402
Epoch of course
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>>563797414
Anyone doing low level dungeons on a server about to shut down is a retard
100% of them
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See you all later my friends
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>>563797414
They are not better. Nord population is mostly dad gamers, people completely new to the game or roleplayers. You will find less people HRing stuff, leaving group or other antisocial behavior but you will still find a lot of bad players.
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>>563788710
Legend
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Bronzebeard needs a class rework to make all of the classes feel like the classes in CoA.
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>>563800527
going from 1 button to 25 buttons you mash
what an upgrade
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>>563788807
>>563788658
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>>563800774
More complexity is a good thing, cryboomer.
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>>563800892
If I wanted button bloat I'd be playing MoP Classic.
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>>563800892
nothing about CoA classes are complex you subhuman turd worlder
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>>563800976
>>563801008
Seething, dilating troons, turtle troons at that.
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>>563801119
But I like MoP. I just don't want to play it right now?
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>>563801119
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>>563801215
Your server is dead, tranny.
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>>563800786
KEK
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>>563800527
They need to release CoA.
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>server dead
>general dead
sad!
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>>563802651
At least my loot luck is well and alive!
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Evil vs Branded?
KY vs Astroglide?
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>>563787460
which guild did anons join in Epoch
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Does anyone here play Warmane ?
I started playing it this week because /wowg/ recommended it
but I saw everyone here just talks about turtle and epoch
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>>563805243
I played it a while ago for like 2 weeks and stopped because I realized I wasn't having fun
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>>563805243
>Log in
>See people in full ICC25 Heroic Gear + Shadowmourne
>Log out
boring, everyone's geared there
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>>563805243
warmane players look like THAT?
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>>563805243
>>563805410 (me)
lol I thought this said Warframe but the statement still stands
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>>563806083
Aged like fine wine.
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>>563806083
>lies about shenna being torta
>lies about crogge being bowser
>lies about making money
your community manager good sir
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>>563806083
trannies not lying for longer than five seconds challenge: impossible
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Whats the most played class in BBC+?
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>tucker left an abusive guild of groomers and found true love and acceptance
I love a happy ending.
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You lost, tranny.
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So is CoA just a delusional dream that will never actually come true?
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>>563806928
>this is the guy who camped quest npcs for an entire day back on nost
completely fitting
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>>563788658
she's so pretty...
i'd initiate litigation against her wow server just to get her to talk to me...
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>>563795402
I'll be going into a 72 hour involuntary evaluation and inpatient treatment.
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keyholder please put a leash on your warriors so they don't get lost and walk into traps all alone

https://litter.catbox.moe/cuzkr6.webm
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>>563806928
And what was evil doing for him? Maybe you guys need more sexual stuff there thats not in the officer only channel maybe, ya know to keep anons around.
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>>563808212
Brandoids lost all their duels against Evil
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>>563808328
Sexual stuff is bad
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pochie friday!!
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>>563810506
i disagree.
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>>563808212
this clip cuts off because I fucking killed you easily bitch
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>>563811873
don't make me upload the rest
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>>563812290
do it faggot
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>>563808212
After the first time he should have just walked around the trap lol, but its a helf brownie so what do you expect.
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Gonna eventually pull a femboy on female situation on one of these troons and turn them straight
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>>563812360
i don't respond to subhumans (warriors in pvp without healsluts) aka free kills
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any kronos 5 anon guild...
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>>563813081
doesn't this launch next month
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>give Synastria a shot
>same handful of attention-seeking niggers shitting up the world chat 24/7
>throw a tantrum like some of you newfags when they're called out
wew
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>>563813181
ye, just wanna know
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>>563813451
well everyone is dooming about turtle and some are starting characters on epoch so I don't think anyone is really excited for pure vanilla fresh
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Epoch spelled backwards reads cope. If it took you this long to notice, you're probably retarded.
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>>563813887
you got it wrong epoch spelled backwards reads no mc
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>Last post 30 minutes ago
Dead fucking game LOL
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When Turtle dies how many of us are going to spam "YWNBA" in chat in the last moments?
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>>563815934
Its "YMCA" silly
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>>563815934
Not me, my newfag friend. :-)
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>>563814192
>you got it wrong
GET OUT OF MY HEAD SANDRO
EVEN IN /wpsg/ IM NOT SAFE
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>>563816805
>SANDRO
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>>563806928
Good for him, <Evil> is full of assholes that tell there 'friends' to kill themselves.
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there are actual twinks in fucking epoch lvl 19 bracket....
fucking unbelievable
you'd think these people would have moved onto other more populated servers where they can do this toxic shit
200 fucking pop and this piece of shit chooses to twink at 19 to fuck over people leveling, giving the server a chance
what a short-sighted retard
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>>563806928
Why are you being insincere? What's wrong with anything in that picture? You would not see it if you did not have ttrp installed.
It is from some RP addon, you decided to install it and view NSFW profiles.
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>>563817791
Any server that adds xp to bgs but refuses to deal with twinks is not worth playing
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>>563817791
>>563817882
I thought xp capping was disabled, at least I remember some butthurt twinks complaining about it
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>>563817791
YO LMAO EPOCH IS FULL OF TWINKS HAHAHA
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>>563819157
I need to roll on Epoch what the fuck. I want a twink.
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>Turtle WoW dying
>suddenly all other servers become more lively
>anons more willing to try out other servers
is this supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>563820314
everyone with half a brain recognizes the whole private server landscape would be better off if turtle dies
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>>563820314
Lets hear the options, tell me where to hop on that has no flying mounts and more than one raid boss released
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>>563820645
>no flying mounts
any server that's locked to the vanilla world
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we are comfy chromiecrafting now
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>>563820786
I'm all ears, which ones
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>>563820880
isnt it kinda dead?
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>>563820645
Kronos fresh soon, and pochie onyxia is a 3 bosses raid, so update that
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I can't believe Epoch killed the Turtle star.
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>>563820885
Ashen-WoW
Kronos 5 (soon)
VANILLAPLUS IS MAKING A COMEBACK
Ascension slop servers technically meet your criteria
Epoch too
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>>563820314
Now we just need molten to die as well
Although I assume most longterm wow players are creatures of habit and will just quit the game outright if they can't get their usual fix
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>>563821265
Warmane never dies.
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WoW classic went from nearly 400,000 monthly active users in April 2025, to less than 30,000 in May 2025... 3 months later they're at 3,000 and they launch the lawsuit against TWoW... Coincidence?
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>>563821624
>Wow classic
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>>563806928
Average undead player
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What server to play on?
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>>563820954
Holy shit, that's triple the amount of bosses I thought it had. That must be over half an hour of raiding available each week
>>563821164
>Ashen-WoW No custom changes
So abysmal dogshit
>Kronos 5 (soon)
I don't see anything about throwing world buffs into the garbage and it seems they still had them last FRESH so abysmal dogshit
>VANILLAPLUS IS MAKING A COMEBACK
This sounded promising so I started watching the feature overview they made and 90 seconds in he admits it's a pvp server so into the trash it goes
>Ascension slop
About a year ago I thought I'd download that to give it a try while I watched some shill video. The man unironically showed himself logging in and collecting daily login rewards, in a video that's supposed to trick you into playing on his server like he didn't realize that triggers an immediate disgust response
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>>563822440
I'm coping on twow
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>>563820314
turtle wow dying will save the pserver scene.
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>>563806928
>Romance: In a relationship
This is why the thread seethes so hard at this guy.
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>>563795402
California
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Guys did the statement come out yet?
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>>563817791
same issue on turtle
I don't know why these retarded server owners dont turn off enchants for pre 60 BGs it would 100% solve the issue over night
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>>563823772
Yes. The announcement is that they will make the announcement in five more days. Yes they really did this. Look on the discord.
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>>563817570
>told to kms
>get rape threats constantly
>told to go back to the kitchen
>called every name under the sun
>always reply with "hehehehe" and they seethe even more
take the hehehehepill
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The girlfriend of the TurtleWoW CN owner is going around on Weibo showing off
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>>563823884
10-19 on turtle is so retarded, back when I played I couldn't finish the crossroads pvp quest for a blue axe because these niggers twinks didn't want to finish wsg and there's no time limit in twow. I gave up after awhile and just did the quest past level 20.
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>>563824194
thats honestly unlucky, usually you can just queue and lose real quick for the mark

but yeah low lvl twinks are the biggest losers on the planet right next to level 1 warmode gankers
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>AFK experience leeches malding about twinks
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>>563824112
Brother please. I can no longer tolerate the young masters and young misses of the CCP.
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>>563822692
Basically yeah.
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Where the official announcement?
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>>563825032
why are you replying to yourself
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>>563788658
God, i want to impregnate her so bad, bros.
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>>563824194
I decided to not do that chain because it teleports you to Westfall from TB. I'd rather keep a free TP than a weapon I can replace in Deadmines.
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>>563789360
I'm doing Naxx tonight and i'm goona need the Ashbringer if it drops (i am a mage).
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>>563825217
Do it fuck them.
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>>563820954
>pochie onyxia is a 3 bosses raid
Is it actually in the game right now? Or planned to release never?
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what proffesions should I roll on epoch
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>>563825535
the server developer profession
because they dont have any
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>>563825620
Where can I learn it?
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>>563825324
No Onyxia is live on the server and a pretty fun fight.

>>563825535
Early gear crafting seems pretty fucking strong, you can get some pretty strong green gear. Alchemy has 2 hour lasting elixers and +25% efficiency so Trollblood for the HP Regen is pretty good on a solo warrior or rogue. Tailoring gets very strong cloak enchants early on and more cloth drops. Mining gives more HP and a chance for Arcanite drops.
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>>563824112
Doesn't this kind of behaviour online get you gulag'd and reeducated in China?
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>>563806928
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
SHE SHOULD BE HOLDING MY KEY NOT HIS
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>>563824323
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>>563826093
Theyre pretty clearly connected to the party or simply don't give a fuck.
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>>563826093
That is how all the kids of high-ranking party members behave.
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>>563826093
for what? China is just state capitalism plus socialist aesthetics, sure the state can disappear rich people but it's not that common
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>>563826339
her eyes look weird as fuck to me for some reason
my brain does not recognize this person as human
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>>563826803
It's a filter.
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>>563825324
It's been out for around two months now
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>>563826093
Are you joking? The only people with that much are family members of the party.
China doesn't give a fuck if you're rich, they only give a shit if you're against the leader of CCP.
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>>563826093
why would it
did you really think China was communist or something
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I'm playing epoch but i've not seen any of the world items?
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I cant even install the ascension launcher.
I get to the "pick a folder to install into", click Next and nothing happens.
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Hello? Announcement?
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>>563828442
haha anon you silly goose, he meant 3-5 days after he edited the original message, not 3-5 days after the message was originally sent! He's still got 3 days!
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>>563811873
>>563812290
>>563812360
>>563812556
do you have fun larping as other people?
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>>563811873
>>563812290
>>563812360
>>563812556
Sorry for my previous post, I forgot to take my meds. I've taken them now and will no longer have delusions of you pretending to be someone else.
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>>563828542
This post angered me. But that's probably the exact logic these cretins are using.
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blizzard destroyed the turtle wow dream
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I dunno what's funnier, if they make an announcement today or move the deadline again.
Wildcard option: Just shut the server and the discord down without saying anything.
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>>563825079
Because I am every anon in this thread duh.
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>>563830646
and that's a good thing
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turtie....
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i dont want to lose my turtle wow friends
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It's a good thing Turtle shuts down
Many other cool servers will rise up :)
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Redownloaded Epoch out of curiousity after seeing threads about it. The server has had a lot of bad luck, but I really believe that with population and support Gurubashi would be the greatest vanila+ PvP realm out there.
Though it seems my arrows won't be sated by orc blood this day.
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>>563832182
Why would a server dare to release when Blizzard is so trigger happy with lawsuits?
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>>563832514
For a month or so, Epoch was genuinely one of the best WoW experiences I've had in a good while. Was a good balance of custom content where it still felt like WoW unlike a lot of private servers which I think take things a bit too far.
It's a shame that you actually need a dev team for a server to be successful
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>>563831879
I was playing during the original chinkocalypse and stopped when it became unbearable to play the game. I met this cute helf rogue girl from here that helped me out and we had loads of fun while i was leveling. I really wanted her to dom my human mage girl with her futa cock in the blue recluse inn basement...
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>>563826921
taxidermy filter
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>>563788964
>feel nothing but know it would upset me if the chick wasn't a subhuman goblin
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>>563832695
You're mentally ill.
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>>563833303
More like mentally based. I was too much of a pussy to ask her to randomly violate me in the outback forests and caves, maybe even walk me around Stormwind on a leash while i'm completely naked (default underwear).
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TURTLETRANNIES IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT
EVERYBODY GONNA HAVE A GOOD TIME
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We're going home.
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but most turdle trannies are already playing epoch
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>>563832671
POCHIE
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Keep saying it.
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HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT
[/spoiler]Today Kara40 releases on the South America server
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lets play wowcircle
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what ever happened to gummy's server
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>>563834576
gamer's district or nothing
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Any other BVLLS wanna plap in Thunder Bluff one last time before the server dies for good?
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>>563833746
M'lady, here's the report on the situation:
>560 players yesterday, triple than the usual
>Expecting 600+ later today for the community event
>Vibes immaculate
>Kaytotes playing overwatch 2
>Ross looking sharp
>Turtle just got hit with a second lawsuit
>No clue where loli Ony is
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>>563832695
>>563833550
>Girl
>Her
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>shilling this hard
you will always be the second option
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Now that all the guilds have moved over to Project Epoch, what classes do you guys need? I'm working on leveling something right now to get ready for end game raiding.
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how do I play Epoch? bronzebeard works fine for me.
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I miss Felkiss.
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>>563835239
Second to none, soon.
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The fuck is this shit?
I uninstalled the launcher months ago.
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>>563835239
what's the first option?
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>>563835659
Retail
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only paladins can be scarlet crusaders in the tabard just paladins ok???i dont want to see fucking warrior in the tabard ONLY paladins got it!!!!
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>>563836090
but the scarlet crusade has warriors too
and mages
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>>563833550
Giving me flashbacks with a post like that...
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>>563836090
scarlet houndmaster = HUNTAR
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>>563835709
Lets check out how retail is doing
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Ambershitters will never be able to experience the kino that is Timbermaw Hold.
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>>563837230
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>>563836325
NO the crusade is for PALADINS not fucking warriors lol its a holy order you idiot
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>>563837431
Herod is/was a warrior
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>>563837431
Bosses in SM:
>Rogue
>Mage
>Hunter
>Warrior
>Priest
>Paladin
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>>563837924
Those dont count
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>>563837230
this has to be fake the writing cannot be this bad
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>>563834505
So are the jajas just skipping t2.5, t3, and timbermaw entirely?
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>>563835383
my fix was to just run ascension.exe from the resources/epoch folder.
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>>563837405
the two things i hate are graffiti and irony
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>>563838303
Whitemane is a priest.
Does she not count as well hmm?
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Community event on Epoch today at 2PM EST, 8PM EU, 60-lvl players are rolling alts to join new wave of fresh players in leveling and running low-lvl dungeons and battlegrounds together

We're redistributing goodies for new people to so they'll have a smoother beginning, bags, wands, potions etc

Useful links:
https://project-epoch-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Project_Epoch_Wiki#Class_Changes

https://project-epoch-wow.fandom.com/wiki/AddOns

https://project-epoch-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Project_Epoch_Wiki#Professions_&_Economy

https://warperia.com/search/all/epoch/

https://github.com/reneas/AtlasLootProjectEpoch
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>>563837590
herod was a chump. he's not even the final boss of the main cathedral HAHAHAHA
just face it, warriors aren't the ELITE. that is Paladins. you play second fiddle to them
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>>563839780
is rogue still complete ass in pvp?
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>>563839863
I played rogue and they were completely fine after they fixed the poisons
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>>563839863
no it's not
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Look I appreciate turtles done a lot but where's the announcement?
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>>563839780
Many already started, currently 118 players in the 1-10 level range
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The only reason the announcement could be delayed this much is they're fucked, right?
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>>563839814
>a single paladin boss and a PRIEST is still above him
Sit down.
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>>563839990
I announce you retarded
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I cant auto attack mobs anymore on Epoch. I can use my abilities but not my auto.
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>>563840307
Relog
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>>563840181
and she has to raise him when he jobs only for him to job again
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>>563840181
turtle is THE Paladin server lil bro. literally build for Paladins (Prot and Ret specifically). warriors are dickheads, deal with it
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>>563840447
>paladin
>needs resses and heals
Pretty pathetic tbqh famalam
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>>563839780
Keep shilling it.
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>>563839780
ascension is malware though??
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There's not going to be an announcement
They are just stringing people along to give them time to move money out of their bank accounts before the inevitable flood of chargebacks from people who bought shit right before they closed the shop
The server will unceremoniously close on whatever day of the month they're supposed to pay the server host is
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>>563840447
The entirety of the Scarlet Crusade are jobbers lmao
This post made by Argent Dawn chads
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blizzard sent warperia a copyright notice
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>>563839780
Did Epoch ever even get molten core raid release???
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lvl 28 of slow&steady
Ran out of green and yellow quests
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>>563841263
bruh we already on naxx and have been for a while
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>>563841263
So far only Onyxia with 3 bosses, and first season of pvp with the stranglethorn bg. MC will be released soon.
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>>563841323
do arathi basin and get a full level up in 3 wins

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