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Stay a While and Listen Edition
>Season 12: Season of Slaughter
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244648/become-the-butcher-in -season-of-slaughter
>Patch Notes:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24244466/diablo-iv-patch-notes
>Resources for builds:
https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4
https://maxroll.gg/d4
https://d4builds.gg
https://diablo4.gg/
>Miscellaneous (event countdown, leaderboards etc.):
https://helltides.com/
>Trade:
https://diablo.trade/
>Codex:
https://diablo4.cc/
Previously in the Sanctuary: >>2243491
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>>2307632
>beta
That was a completely different game back then. For some reason they thought ultra slow pace would work long term for the game. It's good they turned that around and started bringing back features from D3 and PoE.
Also Horn is yesterday's news bro. Shield crest is the new metric.
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For posterity, the interview with Zaven about some of the upcoming changes to the game activities (and the source)
https://www.buffed.de/Diablo-4-Spiel-55956/Specials/D4-Die-Playlist-fu ers-Endgame-Dev-Einblicke-in-die-Kr iegsplaene-von-LoH-1521367/
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Made a barb today and i got bloodied keys, i didn't get any of these on my paladin. I didn't know these existed.
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>"By three they come!"
>almost three years later
>only one has come
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>>2308236
that's why nobody cares about the horn, because why bother if you can't get it. there's no appeal in that. you can still get the crest if you farm long enough, which you need to spend a fuckload of time considering abysmal drop rates. horn might as well not be in the game for how non-existent (at 0) chances are to see someone using it. I've played since launch and the only time I saw the horn was in season 1 and once in season 2.
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>>2308236
you guys look at other peoples horses? to see what bling they have? interesting.
the crest dropped from the secret 4 way boss battle right? does that mean the shrines are still there?
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I see that the seething still continues.
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>>2308313
I'm losing sleep over it after all this time still yes.
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>>2308325
as one should, over pointless pixel garbo
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>>2308650
Well shit. I just finished target farming all my doom coins so i probably won't log in again
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>>2309533
they better not eff it up...
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>>2309548
they can add a lot of power to your build, which is why the gear that gives +to passives is sought-after in endgame
it's the little diamond nodes off the skill tree that says "20% more holy and fire damage" or whatever
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The lack of dependable obducide farm is killing my motivation to keep playing this. Before we could at least spam infernal hordes. Now we have to pray for the random key to drop and randomly have the right modifier. I literally can't progress and upgrade anything because I have no way of farming the obducite
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are either of these active?
>>2309891
sheeeit i wonder where i can find it. i'll have to do all the quests finally.
>>2309822
i can run some with you, i have a bunch of strongroom sigils and escalations.
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>>2309932
you sound gay. you're not allowed in.
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>>2310463
i was going to log in earlier, but i guess battlenet was down for maintenance or something, so it wouldn't even let me sign in :/
>>2310706
yeah i don't feel like making a new char and playing around with this old skill tree that is going to be completely changed in a months time. i know i'll be on for a good long time when expansion drops, cause i'm going to hunt all the new achievements down
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>>2310463
I admit I just went ahead and quickly completed BP, finished the journey and collected all weapon transmogs. I only once came out with a ascendance tribute run tbqh. I will most definitely be more active with the launch of next season for sure.
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>>2311469
yeah they do. git gud
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>>2311486
fite me n00b
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This slaughterhouse shit or whatever is mad boring.
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Has anyone managed to get the Fresh Meat achievement over 9000 killstreak? This fucking game doesn't spawn enough enemy for this shit. Can kill everything instantly but they don't give you enough to kill. Then there is the lag that fucks up the streak timer.
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>>2311501
yes. see previous thread.
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>>2297378
annoying as fuck when your killstreak is high and you just miss getting the cheevo, nearly screamed when i fucked up the second time.
make sure to have high mobility but at the same time, not necessarily obliterate mobs too quickly, and turn crossplay off.
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>>2311519
when i started out trying for this, i got to a killstreak of 8,673 and was so excited that it was the closest i had come to the 9,000 mark --and then helltide abruptly ended and everything despawned, leaving me with my limp killstreak in my hands and no title. yeah i was a little mad. i had to turn the game off and walk away for a while...
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do i need to run bloodsoaked bosses to get shit like this? i've never seen a 3x passives amulet ever.
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oops lol
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>>2311519
Okay I did it. After turning crossplay off I could solo blood maiden. I think she summons 1000 enemy each time. It was pretty easy after that. Problem was all these npc's running around stealing kills.
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im not the only one who does this, right?
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Why does diablo 4 get boring so quickly? There is no endgame still after all of these years. After you max glyphs and get the gear you need there is nothing to use it on. The only thing left is chasing quad greater affixes. The game still feels a mile wide but an inch deep.
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>>2315030
I was thinking that if they at least kept the hidden title for fully completing the season journey I would still play. I need something to grind out. The fun is so fleeting in Diablo 4. Once you get to where you one shot everything in torment 4 the fun ends. There is no aspirational gear to really scale your character even further.
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>>2315581
No and no. Wait until it comes out to make a decision. The game is pretty much the same as a year ago. They keep changing the same things back and forth. for example
>removed 4th stat but then added it back
>removed toughness then added it back
>removed the trials then added back a half ass version called the tower
>Make new class stupid overpowered to sell it then nerf it to the ground
The game lacks identity. Blizzard doesn't know what they want Diablo 4 to be.
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>>2318008
Why the push for /vg/ though? This board is fine for how each season plays out. People drop in and out, on and off and it's nicely paced.
If there's need to get more people here then one could consider a thread on /v/ every once in a while.
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>>2319384
if there are no cosmetics unlock that carries over to the next season, i dont care. shrimple as
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>>2319385
That's fair. I also stopped caring about the title that comes with it after 5+ tries. It's not that enticing anymore. With everything unlocked and completed sans that one achievement I can await the expansion in peace.
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>>2319382
Same.
Here's hoping LoD actually improves classesand that the story isn't as bad as VoH.
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>>2319387
I'm still not sure whether to get the xpac. I have been playing the base game for both S11 and S12. Might play around with the new skill trees first and wait for a discount unless they finally managed to make the endgame interesting
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>>2319391
>that the story isn't as bad as VoH.
Hear hear. After the base campaign I set my expecations low for VoH but that plot was Mariana Trench levels of bad. My point is, it'd be very difficult for them to make LoH story worse than its predecessor. Unless they shove in more gurlbosses everywhere and the little asian gypsy girl comes back to smack another prime evil around.
>>2319392
I couldn't imagine to tell anybody what to do with their income so I won't tell you to get it. I did pre order it though because I wanted to play the paladin so I'm kinda stuck with LoH either way. It seems like they are (maybe) starting to course correct with introducing some endgame content. See >>2307906
It's too early to call it a success, we'll have to wait until next month. I keep my fingers crossed but I'm not getting my hopes up yet so as to avoid setting myself up for disappointment.
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>>2319392
>unless they finally managed to make the endgame interesting
Isn't the solution just going to be "warplans"? Tbh it sounds exactly like the vault in retail WoW with a few more steps and I doubt that will fix anything.
Sometimes I think the only real fix is just to add in raids like wow/ffxiv. Either that or structured challenge maps, sort of like l4d/vermintide. But idk, could be in the minority here.
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>>2319396
if they really want people to play the game more often than 1 wk/season, they should add in weeklies/dailies with some kind of lucrative reward. that's proven to keep people signing in at least once a week/every couple days. do X thing once/week to get a guaranteed spark or something. do X thing once/day to get extra heap of obducite.
also, if they added in a clan base like the den but accessible to all clannies, people could drop gear into a box for anyone to grab from, then people would maybe consider making another class or build from whatever extra thingies they find in there = play for longer. add some kind of resource thing into the clan den that is interactable: one clan member has to click a garden plot once a day, and then everyone can claim a bunch of herbs for potions or whatnot.
idk, from what i see, it's not so much "muh endgame" but the actual playtime/retention that is low-hanging fruit. but ehh it is what it is for now: complete season and then leave.
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I came back from launch and have two battle pass unlocks on my account, so I have a quick question about that. If I use my unlock for the 1,000 plat version, would I be able to upgrade to the deluxe for any discounts, or would I still have to somehow pay 2,800 or so?
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>>2321743
I simply treated this "season" as something I do on the side when I'm bored. Very little to do, Butcher mechanic is ok but not good enough to stand on its own as a seasonal system (something to bring as a mini-event imho).
It was painfully obvious even before S12 started that it's nothing more than content mashed together before they bring out (hopefully) the big guns with the expansion.
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Those are easy to get when you do lair bosses and you get to keep nice transmogs for future sessions. Not terrible overall.
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>>2319387
german beavis found a killstreak counting bug on spiritborn. he was getting like 3x or something the kills per monster with his evade payback build. he said he got to the 9,000 killstreak in 7 minutes. idk if you're still interested (and i'm sure blizz hasn't fixed it yet), you could try to quick make an evade sb and get the fresh meat title
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>>2324156
ohh if you want the doom mats, you have to kill elites. i think i got most of those running helltides and NMD. i still see them pop up all the time, and i'm completely done with that reliquary.
just finished the last seasonal objective tonight: kill 250 elite enemies in pvp zone ughhh what a slog.
>>2323628
this is the most fun event that d4 has done yet! a giant chicken boss that drops chicken weapons kekek i love it!
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>>2318008
Diablo 4 is a few more bad season from going into maintenance mode and your worried about spinning a way to get it into /vg/? Be lucky the game is still getting seasons because if it continues down the path its been going it won't last the end of the year.
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>>2325552
Diablo 4 is Blizzard's highest grossing game, ever. The Paladin release broke the store on December 11th, it had so many people trying to buy it. It's too much of a normie game for most anons, and it doesn't have underage-looking anime-esque avatars, so it doesn't get much discussion on 4chan.
Always amazed when I come to this website and see some of the wildest takes from complete retards.
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>>2325890
lol
lamo even
Diablo Immortal gets the same skins/theme events as Diablo 4 except Diablo Immortal gets them for free because IT makes Blizzard money unlike Diablo 4. Blizzard is an American company and American companies only care about short term profits not long term. Yes Diablo 4 MIGHT of sold a decent amount of expansions but they care WAY MORE about how many skins sell between those expansions and when seasons launch broken HALF the time and shit the other HALF people aren't going to show up and or stick around to buy skins. The degree that seasons/classes launch broken in this game is fucking criminal and is ultimately whats going to kill this game before the end of the year.
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And never forget that this game has over 100 plus uniques and actually had build diversity but now everyone has to play the same 1-2 builds per class and this is because with the launch of the LAST expansion they bricked 90% of all existing uniques with the stat squish (that did literally nothing but make the game worse) and ALL of those uniques are still bricked to this very day.
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>>2327092
>D4 restricts top content to the shop
I'm genuinely baffled by that. At what point did they go "oh yeah we need good to best looking cosmetics relegated to being shop exclusive content". Really, considering what D:I is pulling, especially before D4 launch, this would be a no-brainer to get people to buy your game with even more shit.
Unless, and it's a huge stretch from me, they can't or won't cannibalize their games by applying the same strategy. Either that or they are completely oblivious to what makes people tick.
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>>2327097
They don't even play their own game anon. The one time they showed someone playing it during one of their sit downs it was a fat troon on a bis barb on normal difficulty auto-attacking 90% of the time while dying every few packs (on normal difficulty)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-G3j00RQ1U
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>They don't even play their own game anon.
>The one time they showed someone playing it during one of their sit downs it was a fat troon on a bis barb on normal difficulty auto-attacking 90% of the time while dying every few packs (on normal difficulty)
I know Anon, I know I've been there when it happened sadly. Fact of the matter is those two fat cunts where supposedly ONLY dungeon designers. Not that it absolves them. On the contrary, they should fucking now how basic mechanics work to properly design levels, which shows they know fuck all about it.
Thing is you have dudes like that Colin or Zaven who seem to know what they are talking about. Former more than the latter imho, but still. Yet very little comes out of that. D4 went through so many iterations that only now it may be looking better and it's only due to making it closer to D3. Which wouldn't be a bad thing if the foundations were at least solid (toughness being removed then added again for instance). Maybe it's the case of too many cooks in the kitchen. I don't really know...
That entire cosmetics in D:I vs D4 debacle still boggles the mind though.
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>>2328110
which reminds me
>proper use of "their"
bros, if the expansion story changes everybody's "her" or "his" to "their" again, i'm going to punch a wall. the last expansion story sucked so much in general, but the liberally sprinkled "their" all the time in the dialogue was the icing on the cake of crap writing. "uhhhh who??" "what is even going on? who is going where? all of them??" freaking political correctness is the death of any story or game.
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>>2329900
Blizzard is the most woke gaming company in the industry that hasn't sunk or gotten the axe yet so yes until one of those two things happen all the writing will be woke as fuck. I mean hell just last week they announced they are adding trans events to World of Warcraft.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/darkspear-dash-wows-first-official-pride- event-coming-in-patch-12-0-5-380974
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so what was the inspiration behind this tattoo
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I only played Fire Warlock and only reached mid-50, but the gameplay was sort of like Necro where you find a big group, you place circles on the ground, run looking for more as the circles proceed to turn them to ashes. Despite having 10k+ hours of Diablo retarded dedication, I cannot really explain its playstyle compared to other classes because I'm fixated on D2's slow movement compared to D3's sanic fast or D4's pseudo sanic fast.
But I'll say in a nutshell
>Run, place circles on big group, run, circle explodes, place circles on big group
>Rinse and repeat
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https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24266710/diablo-ii-resurrected -ptr-3-2-coming-soon
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Official Skovos map from the vid
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So is the DOOM / Berserk thing still going or is a blink and you miss it type of deal?
I swear I am always on the verge of getting this game if not because Blizzard are turbo jews.
Also let's say I would had gotten the game last month, was even realistic to start from a LVL1 to Endgame and get the skins?
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>>2347448
Yeah, somebody already made it into a pic in the previous thread.
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>>2347449
But like, is it over?
I have been asking about details and it only says it will run for a season and games treat seasons differently.
Sometimes it is 3 months, sometimes a couple of weeks.
Let's say I get the game at the end of the month, do I miss out? DIV was already on my radar but I wanted to see how it panned out.
All l I wanted was to make a Pally, give it the Doom cosmetics and play Lord of Hatred but Blizzard is unclear about all of this. Like how much would it be in total and how long I have to get the items.
I would not be surprised if it was $200, and I could *sigh fork that over but I hate doing so and missing on the Doom stuff, which is what happened one time with another game and a different crossover, and the game in question was bad (Fall Guys).
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>>2347457
>But like, is it over?
Bersersk - yes. DOOM one is still going.
Generally those collabs last for the duration of a season (so about a month or few weeks) and they're gone after.
>Let's say I get the game at the end of the month, do I miss out?
The current season and by extension DOOM event w/ skins end on April 27th. If you get the game after that then yeah you will miss out. The thing is, there's also some cosmetic transmogs for weapons to grind for that let you complete the set. Unless you care only for the armor stuff which is a paid cosmetic anyway you could, in theory get the game on 27th or sometime before and just grab those bundles from the store. Otherwise it'd be better to get it sooner so that you can get the most out of this Event.
At the end of the day it's your money bro. And your decision!
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>>2347467
Dumb follow up question....is it fun?
Also was newbie what do I get? I was looking at the version Battle net is selling and I thought Lord of Hatred ultimate included everything but that is for people who have the expansion.
So I dunno, do I grab the bundle from Steam or Battle net?
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>>2347478
not that guy but I got the base game on steam sale a few months back and I enjoyed it. once your build comes online, it's pretty fast and brainless to farm the DOOM currency needed to purchase the free cosmetics. the current patch adds some fun mechanics like killstreaks letting you meathook groups of enemies together
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>>2347478
the game is fun yes, especially for a new player that isn't jaded and sunk hundreds of hours into the game. this season kind of sucks, but it'll still be fun for a new player. the game should get a lot better in two weeks!
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>>2347478
I'd say you will get your money's worth. Like >>2347516 said, it's only after you've played for very long do you realize devs really should give stuff to do long term or short term (depending on how you look at MAU numbers and player retention). There's enough for you to do, don't worry. Especially when you're only just starting. Plus, with the expansion coming up in two weeks there's a good chance they will add some more stuff beyond what was announced. We'll see.
>Also was newbie what do I get? I was looking at the version Battle net is selling and I thought Lord of Hatred ultimate included everything but that is for people who have the expansion.
I got the base on Bnet before launch but I if I knew back then they'd release it on Steam I would've waited to get it there. It's just a more reliable platform imho. You can still play with people who have it on console and/or Bnet of course so it's not like it's locking you out of anything.
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The saga has finally come to an end. I managed to do it with my pally though I did resort to a glitch. But after having tried and failed due to bullshittery I feel vindicated. I just need to nab the big chicken and I can finally rest.
Also, the latency after last patch are horrendous. What the hell blizz.
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>>2347637
Fair and unbiased reviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-igesRBly84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLDYLJw0Vn8
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Its because the expansion is going to be a nothing burger just like the last one. If I had to bet money the biggest thing we will get outta the expansion is them re-working all the unique items that got bricked with the first expansion launch. Aka we paid for an expansion that bricked them and now we are paying for an expansion so they can unbrick them, its fucking rediculious. When they did the D2 & D4 anni reveal I don't even remember wtf they announced for D4 because none of it sounded good enough to remember, it was all more mediocre shit plus the warlock and after playing the D2 warlock aint no way in hell the D4 one will be anywhere close to as cool as the D2 one is.
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Take me back sisters, I want to return to the abattoi-
>The Gauntlet hype
... Nevermind...
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>>2352307
>anywhere close to as cool as the D2
Be that as it may D2 warlock is an OP fuck and it's pretty much P2W class. I agree that they've yet to identify what they want D4 to be besides taking D3 and making work on modern hardware to look "better"
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>>2352321
Fuck the OP shit with the D2 Warlock, the cool factor comes from him being able to charm just about any demon in the game, the D4 Warlock will fail in comparison to this single thing. Its like say for example the D4 Warlock will be able to do the same thing? Can you even name anything youd wanna charm?
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>>2352307
The expansion is likely a whole load of nothing. The same old dungeons, infernal hordes, helltides but War Plans which boils down to even more drops. The drops are already shit in the game. Who cares if we get 2x the amount of shit. They haven't revealed any new endgame activities to make the gear even useful. Same old pit grinding different expansion. If they had something truly exciting they would sing songs about it for weeks leading up to the launch. They wont even show us the new skill trees because I bet it just lazy increased damage numbers.
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The expansion will be good because it lets me fight crabs.
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>>2352331
not him but on a related note
>the cool factor comes from him being able to charm just about any demon in the game
that is cool and what not but it goes so against the rule established in the world of diablo that I can't see it as anything but a "muh OC donut steel" class that can "charm" demons and practically wield demonic powers without getting consumed by them or end up corrupted
>inb4 rule of cool again
it has its place but it needs to be coherent because why not bend prime evils to our will at this point? where do we draw the line?
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>>2352331
>Fuck the OP shit with the D2 Warlock
No my man, we can't just brush aside the fact he makes other classes null and void. That'd be like saying "oh it's cool that spiritborn/pally is OP" even though other classes suffer getting shafted due to lack of balance and let's just leave them like that with minor tweaks (which is still the case btw). And I get it, new classes gotta be OP otherwise they won't sell or feel much different to some. But there's OP and there's being outright broken, which D2 warlock simply is. But I will say this - D4 won't match these levels of power imo. That doesn't make D2R situation any better though.
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>>2352387
Little asian/gypsy bitch overstayed her welcome a long time ago. I wish they could kill her off in the mos gruesome way so that there's not even a slightest possibility of her being present in the sanctuary.
Fucking Cali "writing".
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>>2345608
It's definitely smaller than Nahantu. But this gives them opportunity to pack it with content
>Or maybe Blizz will find a way to disappoint me.
Always be tentatively optimistic with them Bro. It's never a bad mindset.
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Thenks fren
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>I just need to nab the big chicken
How do you even get this WB? Ive been looking at helltides tracker and it's never there. Does it replace the boss UI claims it be eg. it says ashava but it's actually the chicken but the game doesn't say that?
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Wanderer, prepare for the Reckoning! Our next livestream begins on April 23, 11:00 a.m. PT and gives an in-depth look at content releasing with the Lord of Hatred expansion and upcoming seasonal updates.
https://news.blizzard.com/en-gb/article/24261474/tune-in-to-the-pre-la unch-livestream