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Crimson Desert edition
>What is BDO
Black Desert Online is a Korean MMORPG developed by Pearl Abyss. It features non-tab targeted action combat, RNG, guaranteed upgrade mechanics after you spend 4 times the item's worth and then they give the item away for free, more RNG, brand new fun pvp modes trust me, open world pvp and bullying/getting bullied, coomer outfits like slutkinis, shondoms, real rootin' tootin' American cowgirls, monkeys, infinite grinding in a circle or a private circle, +5% AP caps, RNG and a pseudo sandbox experience that doesn't matter now that marni exists.
>News and Updates
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice
https://www.kr.playblackdesert.com/ko-KR/News/Notice
https://www.sea.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice
https://www.global-lab.playblackdesert.com/News/Notice
>coupon codes, gear builder and grind spots info
https://garmoth.com/
https://bdolytics.com/en/NA
>waste your money sheets
https://bdoworkshop.com/
>guilds
NA: Jealousy
EU: Cuties
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1st for witches or something i guess
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This place has sure slowed down since I was last here. Yeesh.
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>maintenance
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Is there any reason for the Thankful boxes to not stack?
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I need 1 ap so fucking bad
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>Succ Striker buffs
Neat. But wouldn't Wolf's Explosive Fangs might as well be better off as part of the main kit than a rabam with how integrated it is?
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>succ drak has a slow ramp up leading to taking damage when committing
>rather than fix the root cause, just buff the healing
better than nothing i suppose
i don't play the character much, i just thought that bit was funny to me
i shouldn't be surprised honestly
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>>2312890
The buffs actually fucking suck, they just did a bunch of stuff he didn't really need. They'll pretend they did something good and continue to ignore him for another 4 years as the worst spec in the game by far. Ffs
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>>2313065
It's still a Top 10 grindan spec, could be me but a few things feel a bit more fluid? Guess time will tell if the devs think it's enough for PvP or not, all these classes and so little time for unfucking their internal balance.
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maybe too soon but has CD reached a milestone in gamming? which one? I haven't played the game.
Looks whale money was well spent this time.
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behold
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>>2313571
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I've spent almost 200 billion silver so far with this night vendor event, not sure if I'll be able to deplete my entire savings before the event ends next week but I'll for sure get close.
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>>2314044
Crons are 80% of the vendor price, so great but not quite costume value. I think the other bits are worth given the market value and scarcity right now, the only uncertain part is the Patrigio's boxes but I reckon it'll end up worth it.
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>>2314224
pretty good but bottlenecked by energy
and just today they took the energy regen shit off the market cause they want to increase their prices
if you dont have the need to grind for multiple hours in a row then it can be fairly competitive with how much you can make per hour of active gathering (you can barely get an hour of gathering in though, in most cases) (and that's with very high energy pool)
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>>2314669
same here.... I got the game for a dollar and it's been super fun so far, but I started outleveling the content of the storyline about 20 min into the game.
I'm almost 60 now and the only time I've used more than 1 skill to kill fight was against that griphon rift boss....
Most of my skills I have no clue what they even do.
Nevertheless the game is really fun.
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my main gripe so far is the absolute lack of group content so far....
I chose shai because I really love playing support in mmos and now I've got all these buffs and heals but no one to heal......
Does that change later in endgame? Do you just get thrown into endgame without ever getting a chance to learn the support game?
Also please give green skin so I can turn my shai into a goblin....
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>>2315219
you can do group content as a shai pretty early since people will want you for your buffs even if you have bad gear, just as long as you can survive the spot and properly buff your party and debuff the mobs. but no this game doesn't have a way to organically ease people into group content or learning how to play their class
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>>2315235
where do you queue up for that? just write in world-chat "lfg"?
Another thing that got me wondering...I read that you need to be careful with the shai bubble because "it can wipe your party"...why is that? some aggro reset or something?
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look at this bitch
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by the way, group content in bdo just means 3 people (no more, no less) attacking the same mobs, they're not harder other than having triple the hp and giving everyone some loot
its literally just a sidegrade for people that want to pretend to do group content when they're just 3 people solo grinding at the same spot
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>>2315404
Cute.
But not really. Maybe the tent? Only if you're seriously committed, and it's on a heavy discount. You can also craft a lesser one in game.
Events pretty much give out everything you might need, but it's sprinkled in so you just gotta stockpile over time as you play. Pets, Theiah's orbs, maids, outfit boxes etc.
Definitely get maids if an event offers them after you secure an outfit.
I wouldn't spend an additional cent on this game.
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>>2315404
Depends on what it is you're doing, but acquiring at least five pets is important for PvE later because they provide an autoloot function. There's a handful of free one-offs you can get by following the main questlines up to Mediah on top of whatever newbies get for attendance and also season seals. The buyable packs include Tier 3 ones, of wihch upgrading pets isn't exactly a fun affair if you don't want to risk going nowhere with them, but you'll probably get a fair few free ones from events overtime to alleviate it anyway.
Maids are good but you can also just overload vendor trash onto a horse if you're about to be over-encumbered if grindan. There's a tent item whose 'free' equivalence is mostly a daily silver upkeep and is probably the most notable usable paid item; PA does sell a fair few others now that have practical functions, but they're mostly superfluous, niche, or you can work around not having them. You also get a welfare mythical horse that will eliminate any and all actual need to worry about getting one with all the skills, so no need to fuss around with too many of the Training ones.
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>>2315548
I've always had a witch. I just play the game on and off, and she's been through many iterations. I also barely play her.
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>>2315404
You want to get a set of underwear for the 10% extra durability reduction anything else is already said.
Also if you have any Decade-infused Pearl you want to buy at least the following:
1. Choose your costume box (2200)
You get a free "lifeskill costume" from it, I suggest getting the Venecil(processing) set with it.
2. Radian Adventure Support Pack
2 Outfits for alts and a 30% off coupon for the cash store you can use on one Item
3.the two Maids 1200 per
You need them and can't have enough
4. Theiah's Orb
Used to roll skills on your fairy and normally p2w
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i found this slutte today
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and also this other slutte. before NW there's a gold mine of ass
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I haven't played in years upon years, would I still have access to my characters? I think I heard something about a merge or something that might have deleted them.
Have this picture of an abomination I saw featured on leddit when I last played 500 years ago.
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>>2315841
I lost my launch account too but I just started a new one this week and in hindsight nothing from my old account mattered anyhow and outfits and resources are pretty plentiful now
>check my old account name
>some fag with highest Lv50 claimed it and abandoned it a long time ago
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>>2315864
whoremancer uses the scythe, or magic talisman in the suckoff spec.
i agree with that other anon though, you should start again. the progression is much easier up to a point, but too bad about the pets and outfits especially if they were functional outfits like maid dress to process things from storage
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>>2315912
what bloom
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Finally some good luck
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please say hi to my shai
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please say hi to my tamer
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>>2316808
>g-guardian?
yes
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Nothing is wrong with Shai. Play her.
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It's been a while, post 'em
>>2316441
True, so you should have great times then right anon?
>>2316480
It's basically free money, even if you don't want to put in effort the lower Calamities are worth doing
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>C9
>07:27
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>True, so you should have great times then right anon?
No, I can't even do the easy ones like Bambooman cause of stupid AP requirements
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6-7 hours of overnight alchemy (the catalyst is worth 800m)
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>have 5 hammers, 3 more in olvia academy when i get off my ass
>powerful urge to use them on an oct khara neck
>remember dec attempts require 3.6k crons and should probably save them for those
>still have an urge to use them on the oct anyway
Man and here i thought i was safe with 100k crons when that isn't nearly enough it seems. I still gotta get my dp up to snuff too and getting to tet god armor is also expensive. What are the chances they reduce the pity on tet anytime soon?
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olvia academy is making me fight real mobs and I'm getting absolutely demolished...
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>>2318099
Played BDO and went back to Skyrim and noticed the lack of wet rain on character effects and could not un-see.
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Nice, I should think about that. I don't have loads of weight but at the same time I won't get down to quite as low a time, I can probably get a total of -10 seconds without any time-bound consumables. Not bad for low value crafts like reagents, and for getting byproducts for more CP.
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Rosa Cassius is still one of the best dk sets despite only being a classic set.
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Traditional elf attire
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How's life skilling in this game? I remember you could drive a cart around or something
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>>2319001
This is quite literally the trading rework we were promised like what, 2 years ago before they threw their hands up, said fuck it and removed it forever, what the hell lol. CD also has the climbing lifeskill they promised us in 2017. Does it also have painting?
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>>2317275
Ngl I don't think anything under c8 is worth it simply for the fact that c7 is way harder for absolutely no reason at all. I despised boss blitz at first but these days the rewards are so good and it's so much less frustrating that now I actually look forward to knocking them out each week.
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I didn't buy that outfit specifically because of the clipping issues with the shirt and the undershirt. I am now satisfied.
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Told you to buy the dip bros
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I'm wondering what to do with all the free Blackstar stuff they gave us in Olvia Academy.
I'm way past that on my main Musa but I have a semi-alt Maehwa that I've given most of the freebies and leftover gear to: PEN boss helmet, gloves and boots, TRI Fallen God, TET Blackstar Weapons and PEN Capotia accessories. I could use the PEN enhancement materials and the free PEN to make the primary weapon into a Sovereign, or I could just enhance to PEN and give the other free PEN/TET Blackstars to my next most favoured class, Drak.
Obviously the real solution is to not bother with any of this and just change my tag when I wan to play one of these classes, but I can't make any money off the free gear so I may as well try to use them.
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I've just remembered that I also have lots of embers of the Primordial so I could almost make two Sov main/awakenings from those.
>>2320319
I've done very little hunting so forgive me for not knowing, why is that important? Simply a better weapon that still remains equipped whilst you use a matchlock?
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>yfw it worked
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Oh so the fake text on the item was the troll all along, well played PA
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0.22% contribution per 1 turn in
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1 stonetail fodder per 1 turn in
So 1 CP is about stonetail fodders worth, and thats about 1.125 bil
Currently any new worker nodes I could invest in would return about 1m per cp per day
That would require over 3 years for the CP to get paid off
I guess I'm done using farming product for CP, not worth it
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Very imo, have you already got the ones from your Olvia Academy Coins?
If you only need 100 then grinding them out won't take too long, either the pity pieces themselves or going for Atanis' Element at somewhere like Fadus, Pollys, or Miru.
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grinding is fun, grinding for money feels like cancer. i just hunt for treasures pieces these days
gear progression got streamlined and it's good up to a point, then it gets harder and harder and it's cancer
open world pvp doesn't really exist anymore. reds are still very much a thing if that's what you wanna do.
NWs are alive
there's been a lot of QoL, like A LOT
If you want to burn a couple hours every day with 1h grind 1h node war pvp, i recommend playing.
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there's no reason to fight over a spot anymore except to grief someone with an insurmountable gear advantage and 6 dp gems. ppl grind on arsha for the drop rate until a loser asshole comes along to try to ruin their day with some gay shit. NW is alive even in NA but the class balance makes the pvp gay and boring.
if you remember how retardedly overloaded awk mystic was back in the day when any random retard could just reroll to her and mash buttons while hitting you with protected cc dps mobility skills and other obnoxious things like vacuums, cc mobility skills that go behind forward guard, heals and a self PA, all while breathing out of their mouth and drooling on their keyboard, then that's basically how they design modern classes nowadays. seraph is a very good example of this
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>Free maido
neat
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Been trying for quite many hours, just can't get the flow down. Kuno feels like it flows perfectly with every skill I do, while with seraph it doesn't feel as good.
And Seraph has so many skills and you don't know which one you should prioritize and use most.
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What does BDO do so much better than other KMMOs that is allowing it to survive and even thrive in the MMO space? I mean all the other KMMOs have died out completely. Lost Ark is most likely going EoS shortly, as they're laying off a lot of their Western staff. TnL same thing. But BDO maintains a fairly large audience by comparison.
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The controlled market is surely one of them completely eradicated bot problems and subhuman organizations trying to earn money from western players
Also BDO players disagree but its the best maintained MMO on the market in terms of updates and dev-care
Personal opinion, the lifeskilling and various casual pvp options add a massive amount of s0vl to the game
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>>2325122
I gave a fair chance (100ish hours) but ultimately dropped LA because of the gated content, the alts you had to play to pass on the materials and the bullshit currency exchange. It's hard to compare to BDO because they're so different, yes there's some gated content here too but beside that there isn't much. Class balance was also terrible, i like tanking so i made a shield&lance guy, got to entry level dungeons for the enhancement materials and i did 30k damage with small AoE. Made a wizard lady, got the to same point, and had a great time with 200k-1M huge AoE screen blasting. Yeah i know both classes can achieve good damage, but the starting experience was wildly different, and it felt like i wasted my time.
I didn't particularely care for the bots, they infested the game, and more than anything the refusal to address the problem had a bigger impact on LA's decline than the bots had. Just unwilling devs if not accomplices to the RMTing going on, or worse, incompetent devs were really bad marketing. This went on for years AFAIK.
TnL i knew i was going to drop from the start, as i'm sure did many others. It was built about the same as LA, same gated bullshit, same shallow RNG enhancing, but it had the mass pvp aspect. That's a negative in my opinion as it just rewarded whales even more, i've heard a whale could fend off 5-10 people with the gear difference.
I enjoyed the leveling campaign but after getting to endgame my choices were a bunch of quests of "kill 8 undead" to collect RNG shinies and i just stopped caring, i wasn't going to invest my time day after day on such low effort shit. Also i hated the "turn into a mount" system, i'd rather have something my character can ride than turn into a duck or some other animal, and it wasn't that much faster than running to be honest, we have it good with BDO gigafast mounts.
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some of the default faces are strangely unnerving
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I know am late to the party but i'm happy they finally added a real greatsword class for females with the Angel aesthetics.
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>>2309515
picked up the game for $1 during the sell, is it actrually worth getting into? I mainly got it so I could learn the lore before getting into Crimson Desert.
Playing through the first area and it seems fucking pointless, mindlessly one shotting enemies with a horrendous clusterfuck of a UI.
Some princess character screamed at the top of her lungs and made me kek thoughie
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>>2325122
Despite all of our bitching about the p2w gear treadmill and whatnot, it's still by far the least brutally p2w korean MMO that's ever existed. It's also a really solid overall game as an MMO, it doesn't have ridiculous insane powercreep in the way something like DN did. Like yeah we're basically playing BDO 3 at this point with how different classes are now compared to in 2016 or even in 2019, but if it were any other korean MMO every class would be a god with obnoxiously large screen wide AoEs with a million hits per skill by this point. It's definitely showing its age as a korean mmo with the large amount of bloat you'd typically expect, but they've at least tried to rear back on it over time so it's not as bloated as it could be.
Also the customer support is very good, getting a ticket answered within a week is unheard of with korean mmos. Nexon used to take literal months to respond when I played maple, dunno if it's like that now. Every ticket I've ever sent to PA was answered within a day or two, maybe a week at most. The CMs are active and actually have a presence in the game, a lot of people are familiar with them and recognize their names. Most of the CMs are veteran players who had a positive reputation in their region before they became a CM, they're relatable because they're all players and they aren't actually shitters either. At this point I think the most common complaint I've seen amongst long term players now is that PA doesn't do enough exciting, sweeping changes to the game that shake things up, and that it experiences long periods of stagnation, only really adding new gear and new samey grind spots here or there, or some new crystal, or a new lightstone upgrade, which I can kind of agree with.
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>>2326014
I still prefer drak's aesthetic despite her unwieldy moveset, but i won't object to more classes with a big fuck off great-weapon.
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>>2326129
You can turn off many UI elements but i think you need level 20 or something? In any case it's up to you to customize it, if you keep seeing things pop up on screen like horses being registred on the market you can turn those alerts off.
The story is mid, i wouldn't bother with it just for CD.
You will oneshot mobs until you're done with season, ideally around level 61+ (5-12 hours for a new player, 20+ if you take your time or even longer if you listen to the quests). After season you can go to spots that require you to do a skill combo rotation. Everything i said should have an asterisk though, there's exceptions and caveats. Game is notoriously super confusing for new players and a veteran explaining you shit is recommended.
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it's fun but a bit difficult to get into being a 10 year old MMORPG that was janky from the start and has an accumulated burden of knowledge to match
still there's a lot to dig into and it offers a lot of stuff CD doesn't have. And the new player experience has been fasttracked to an absurd level as you can see.
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Etsu, Corruption and Lemoria were pretty well rounded but of course they're washed since they're not actual players anymore, it's been years. Idunno about the EU CMs but I assume Ronin is or was a pvper. I think there's a fine line between someone who is a shitter and always was and someone who's washed up because they got a job at the company. The ones who aren't good at pvp are still fairly knowledgeable about the game since they were dedicated players before they were CMs. What I meant is that this makes them more relatable than some faceless literal who that doesn't interact with the community and has no experience with the game outside of it being a job for thema shitter, which historically has been most GMs throughout all korean mmos.
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>>2326129
Do they not ban you with that name?
At least I understand the shai hate now....
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This was my loot from the Patrigio Event, I got a total of 28,083 Crons from the regular boxes. I haven't opened my Patrigio's Secret Boxes yet but I have to do some irl stuff so perhaps later
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I think I spent more like 200-250 billion silver but it was definitely worth it!
Opening the Patrigio's Secret Boxes gave me 176 Hidden and four Stashed, then from the Hidden boxes another 22 Patrigio's Secret Boxes so in the end it was five total Stashed boxes and the rest Hidden. I got rather lucky with the Stashed boxes, in total from the whole event I got91,483Crons. Not pictured is also three +250 stacks and some Dim Origins.
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And all of a sudden I have a lot fewer Crons
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That was HEX but also the wrong screenshot of pitying HEX awakening ages ago lmao, now it was the same again for my offhand
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>thrive
lol lmao even
if by "thrive" you mean 80% of the players afk fishing while it's impossible to fill an RBF lobby outside of events because nobody actually plays the game anymore, sure
they simply perfected their retention mechanisms for pavlovian cattle, bdo will never reach the heights of other real MMOs because it is ultimately a p2w gookfest money extractor and whatever game exists is incidental to that
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>>2328320
A very apt description.
Anons post sexy BDO characters here. I usually take caps of weird characters.
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I've lewded powpowpow several times before, I don't even think that guy actually plays the game. Perma afk in velia but doesn't even fish
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>2 zerks arguing over who takes which hole
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I hope devs won't look at Crimson Desert's success thinking
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BDO will be ruined even further thanks to them, which is why we should be campaigning for a BDO classic while we still have the sway to do so
it will never be OSRS or WoW Classic, but it will be free from normie influence which already ruined the main game before CD
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>>2328813
Normalfags had nothing to do with BDO being ruined because they don't play korean MMORPGs to begin with. BDO got ruined because they listened to korean streamerswhich I suppose you could argue is a normalfag thing to be
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>>2328784
>Most people actually dont like overly sexualized shit in their games
Truth nuke.
And the worse the world gets, the more spiritual it becomes so more prudes and less emphasys on 'sex sells'.
We're witnessing the coomer holocaust.
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>>2329494
It is if you're not a subhuman degenerate gooner retard projecting his wants onto the general population
There is a reason the most successful anythings have barely any sex stuff in it, it's a niche interest
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>>2329506
You are extremely retarded, sex sells will be a constant as long as humanity exists.
Street Fighter 6 went full lewd compared to SF V and became ultra successful.
Attractive characters and ASSets only has a positive effect on sales or none at all, its definitely not a negative in any capacity.
you're a brainrotten zoomer who has no clue
Nobody ever even used the term "sexualized" until it was forced into the lexicon by the most insufferable cunts imaginable 10 years ago
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You are a literal retard living in your own reality.
Yes movies are famous for having no sexual content...
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As much as i consider myself to be a gooner and therefore prone to agree with other goones as we stick together (heh), i have to disagree. Sex doesn't sell, eroticism does. You don't find a sex shop next to a burger king, you find it in a dark alleyway. You don't see a pawg riding a huge dildo on a billboard, you see lingerie ads.
Everything sex related is done in privacy and as anonimously as possible, you might be confused because this website makes very little difference between a hot pic and something more hardcore. A sfw board is next to a nsfw, it's primarely a porn attraction and a gathering place for deviants with some jewish psyop thrown on top.
I especially have to disagree with >>2329521
>sex sells will be a constant as long as humanity exists.
For the past 10000 years, as long as there have been cities, it was quite the opposite. It was always something to be controlled and beside some short periods like when greeks fucked goats and little boys, covering up women was actually the norm. "Sex sells" wasn't even a thing 30ish years ago, not that you're old enough to remember.
So when you say sex sells... it does, to you. It's universally frowned upon that's why the NSFW acronym exists. That's why it's niche like that other anons says.
>inb4 OF
Yeah a woman having OF is a major turnoff for many people.
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>>2329544
Original comment implied as much, context matters here
>coomer-friendly playable characters like BDO.
>>2329547
The most popular movies/series have no sexual content, no sexualization that makes things awkward and if it has them they are kept to a very minimum
Yes there are some that are popular despite having some sexual content, but all the fondly remembered movies are low on the sexual content
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>>2329553
prostitution was extremely common and way more normalized throughout human history in every society, stop trying to invoke history when you literally know nothing about it. You aren't smart enough for this discussion
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>prostitution was extremely common and way more normalized
so was rape you stupid retard, you fucking midwit
whore has been an insult as long as whores existed, you think that's a sign of acceptance? fucking retard
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>>2328166
We have a similar monstrosity on EU, often seen on Ka2.
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>>2329761
what is there to reply to? You started whining about rape after mischaracterizing the past as more chaste than today.
You're an objective retard living in your own fantasy
way more partook in fucking prostitutes than do today, its not even close, you are extremely stupid
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>>2309515
>try a million other mmos
>still the only ones I enjoy are BDO and OSRS (Ironman, of course)
Am I just buck broken or what. Other mmos seem so shit, that design philosophy of "Hey play for 2 weeks after a patch then stop playing for 4 months" is so ass.
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>You're an objective retard living in your own fantasy
projecting gooner retard, you've been bitching about porn for 3 hours, get real go touch some grass. you coomed your last braincell out
you'd get stoned for adultery so what the fuck are you talking about, people weren't chaste? women covered their hair for thousands of years, you talk like a fucking retard who has never heard of religion and got his history lessons from r/witchesVSpatriarchy
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>>2329855
>covered hair for thousands of years
top kek is your entire brain just buzzwords and reddit? With each post you embarrass yourself showcasing your ignorance. Male "adulterers" were never "stoned" you fucktard.
Maybe try watching a movie made before 2014, if you're even old enough
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Anyway, post 'em.
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>>2335164
Then you are retarded bro
I can't do party spots with my guild cause they are 390 something AP, so I need to catch up
I can't do endgame bosses in Edania because I dont have enough AP and DP, need to catch up cause people talk about it and its fun content
I can't do Blackshrines with guild because I'm doing no damage and only getting carried, feels bad, need to catch up
I can't do uncapped pvp content with guild because so far behind that I get oneshot, need to catch up
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>>2335219
>I can't do party spots with my guild cause they are 390 something AP
wrong, you are blatantly lying because you are evil and malicious
>I can't do endgame bosses in Edania
not party content
>I can't do Blackshrines with guild because I'm doing no damage and only getting carried
boo hoo get carried until you aren't carried, it's party content for people who want content and want to play with their friends
>I can't do uncapped pvp content
you will never catch up enough to do uncapped pvp content and you have no interest in doing so anyway, because you are dishonest liar
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>>2335370
They removed duo spots because subhuman pinoy niggers used them to sell boosting services as 1 person can carry a useless retard there
>>2335361
I accept your dismissal of my valid and true points (floodlands is 390 and most people in my guild are at that level) as concession
Also no one said party content only, people want to catch up to be within the same range and have the same game experience as others in their community
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>people want to catch up to be within the same range and have the same game experience as others in their community
No they don't, they want the idea of catching up without actually doing anything MMORPG related then quitting for 6-8 months until the next round of freebie catchup mechanics come and you retarded tourists come around once a year with your dogshit opinions on a game you don't even care about, outside of le free dopamine cron coupons per ball. I already know this is true just by how you justified PA nerfing turos because of some retarded reason instead of simply banning pilots from shithole countries, then you proceed to complain about how a new group grind spot's AP cap is too high for you to grind with your friends, while intentionally ignoring that dehkia mirumok is a thing with a very low gear requirement that friends can grind together
>I accept your dismissal of my valid and true points
I addressed every point you made, you are a dishonest liar and "i accept your concession" is not the pwn you indians think it is. I don't know why jeets have latched onto that phrase so hard, whatever. Floodlands isn't the only party grind zone and you know this, but you'd never admit it because again, you are a dishonest evil person who is willing to lie just to pwn someone you don't like because being devil's advocate gives you a reason to breathe. I expect you'll flail and cry with some lame shitpost that just comes off as you deepthroating PA afterwards.
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>>2335445
>No they don't
Yes they (I) do, don't project your bitter shithead opinion
>while intentionally ignoring that dehkia mirumok is a thing with a very low gear requirement that friends can grind together
The problem with that spot is that no one wants to do it unless they're in the same AP range, so instead they go grind Sycraia
>I addressed every point you made
You didn't you said I was lying (I wasn't), you said nuh-uh it doesn't count (it counts), you said boo-hoo (lmao), you said nuh-uh it doesn't count (it counts)
I'm not a jeet
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Gear question: I took like a year long break and I'm coming back now because every other mmo fucking sucks. I still have not claimed my free DEC Tuvala Pen BS. I was one of the lucky ones a couple years back and tapped a pen BS with my free hammer, and claimed the awakening weapon with the free BS event a while back. So now only my offhand is not pen BS, its still the shit tier PEN Kutum with no caphras. It looks like I'm sitting on like 60k Cronstones. Would it be best to get a SOV succ/awak weapon, or get the BS offhand with my free pen BS to have all pen BS? I remember there was much discussion about this a while back.
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Best to post a screenshot of all your gear. You can get some more Blackstar weapon boxes from the Olvia Academy, one TET and one PEN with some means to enhance the TET as well, so you might be able to get both Mainhand and Awakening to Sovereign. I'm not sure if that's the recommended progression path but if you use the compare stats function in the Garmoth gear builder then you can see what you get from each path. Pic related is a quick mock-up example implying that all PEN BS is better than mainhand Sovereign (unenhanced, mind) but only by a few points of AP, mostly in DP.
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>>2335902
gotcha, good point. I put together everything of note in pic related. Not shown -
>My PEN BS box from the DEC Tuvala quest
>Vell's concenrated magic (I think this is what I was waiting for back when I quit)
>The free inverted Garmoth Heart
>like 6 transcendent hammer boxes
>~25b in raw silver
>like 20b worth of WON crystals (I think I was collecting these to get those Kharazod accessories?)
It seems like this Olvia Academy thing is super juiced, I haven't touched it yet but that definitely seems like I should do that first. I would assume use my current BS box to upgrade my Mainhand SOV, do Olvia for another pen BS to get my Awak SOV, then maybe get the TET BS from Olvia and tap it to PEN using some failstacks? I'm sitting on a lot of stacks/crons/hammers it seems like. Seems like I missed a lot of updates in the year and a half that I haven't played.
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>Fish in random spots
>Farm food
>Pick flowers
>Hunt
>Farm Mobs
>Cook
>Play the merchant
>Take screenshots
>Re-play quests with other classes
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>friend is detailing me a loophole with using alt accounts to make silver on the MP without multiboxing
>apparently it's 'not against TOS'
>allegedly able to make over 5bil an hour
Wonder how long he'll last, guess PA could spin it as being an exploit regardless.
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>>2337082
You can enrol until the 9th, which I presume means until next maintenance. Then you'll have a week to do all the quests which is plenty of time if you try. Check these out for more info:
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo= 9608&countryType=en-US#h_7228900153 17351769012839186 and https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.co m/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo= 9606&countryType=en-US
As for the next step in gearing I'm not certain the typical next progression for your current gear, but I think people probably save up silver and buy TET Debos to convert to PEN Kharazad and a JIN crystal. You can also make a DEC Tuvala Armour and Necklace to exchange for a TRI Slubmering Origin and TET Kharazad respectively, so look into doing that. Consider if you can or cannot sell one of your Griffons or Urugons when choosing the piece you want, but since you already have a Fallen God then typically Labreskas would be a good next choice. Embers and Flame of Resonance for making Ators Shoes are always sitting at min price, at least on EU, whilst sometimes the Embers and Flame of Frost go out of stock as very few people grind Jade these days.
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>>2337508
the season set is tuvala and there are weapon conversion tickets for it, the plump coelacanth shop (currency you get while fishing) has 3 sets available. They show up as rewards other places too.
That being said you get blackstar boxes and boss armor from stuff (graduation, challenges, olvia academy, magnus) so you don't even really need it anyway. my seasonal weapons are just sitting in the warehouse now and not even my alt needs them
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>aion pt.2
enjoy your teraslop whacky mounts and outfits
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I think I've made some decent progress over the last few months. I found an old picture for comparison.
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Thanks! I got my other ring to NOV on my 17th attempt yesterday. Now I'm planning to save up 200b to buy a Splendid Alchemy Stone of Destruction. In the meantime I'll save all the Cron Stones from the new events to later try tapping the rest of my accessories to DEC. I'm already 12/30 on the earring but I don't have any high failstacks left.
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>>2339270
Has it really been a year already? I hope they bring it back, it was really fun even if they flopped hard on it with retarded decisions. Lotsa potential for fun. I was hoping they'd add all the classes and kind of rotate locations or something at least.
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>>2339288
I hope they don't ever bring it back, pvp is something that can never be fixed and having a pvp centered mode only exacerbates the problem.
Worst of all they already had a pvp centered mode with all the classes, it was called shadow arena.
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>>2337536
so you're saying season gear is shit and you get better stuff elsewhere? did something change very recently cause everything ive read says go for a season character if youre new or returning. My gear was shit even by 5 years ago's standards
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>>2339554
the gear your season chara actually uses is irrelevant and mostly a stepping stone, the real shit comes when you graduate via trade in quests and selector boxes
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>barter update
Bartering more like fagtering. There's no way this bartering update was done by a barterer, it's so shit
>altar of blood
More like altar of poo. Yet another weekly shit you have to do and 99% of people can't even reach level 21 with its 395 AP requirement, challenge my ass get ready to tag a witch.
>new male class
>male
>gunslinger
AHAHHAHAHAHA necrofags on suicide watch
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>create demand of a lifeskill drop
>push people towards lifeskill as an alternative way to get silver
>lifeskillers are a minority of the playerbase and are mostly hoarding till a VP lets them sell
>devs release a band-aid event to fuck them up
>the cycle repeats every month
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how does this work? How can i make an already created character into a season one? is there like no way?
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>>2342813
You can only have one Season Char at a time. So either graduate or delete your char.
>>2342816
Do the Magnus
>https://garmoth.com/guides/post/abyss-one-the-magnus
Grind the leftover 40 pieces for your infinite HP pot and some cash
Protty cave is your friend
The adventure logs for the free AP/DP bonuses.
Start here: https://garmoth.com/guides/post/igor-bartalis-adventure-log
And the loml story quest to fight the weekly shrines
https://grumpygreen.cricket/loml-adventure-log/
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>>2344390
There's a few worthwhile things to do with CP: Build a worker empire, invest in nodes for grinding drop rate, rent storage, and rent fences for farming. I would recommend doing all of them in varying amounts.
Workers are passive income which require almost no thought, just topping up some food in your family inventory every so often depending on how many you have. Sure, as you say, they bring in lots of low value items, but if you ever want to do Alchemy or Cooking that's where a lot of the ingredients come from, and the good ones will be sold out on the central marketplace.
You can also have workers make trade crates with some of what they gather, either immediately by making ore or timber trade crates, or you can process those to ingots and plywood and make higher value trade crates. Some anons here don't like them and will tell you it's a waste of time and to just sell the base product, I disagree but either way is fine to make some background silver.
Farming is also mostly passive and is a good way to get more CP from the byproducts. I farm sunflowers to make more trade crates with, but you can also grow Alchemy and Cooking ingredients, or some people don't go for a product at all and they breed everything to get seeds, then sell all the excess seeds to a vendor for a small amount of silver. I think that's a waste.
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I forgot to use my two 30% discount coupons, I thought they expired this evening not yesterday evening. Oh well I was only going to use them to save some Pearls rather than buy something that I want. Will I learn from this? Not a chance.
Anyway, post 'em.
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>>2344390
some towns have small investment banks which are low to zero effort to use
mind you not the big inv banks, those are only available if you're the top resident, but small ones you can rent with your cp
enter the town node view and then in the upper right filter
roi is very low but bigger than zero
anyway, last night while genociding the kaffir centaurs as is the duty of every righteous mujahdeen of Aal, the blasphemers of PA had the audacity to mock my religious fervor.
Dogs! Tie me to a rocket and fire me at Calpheon, I am ready!
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>>2345024
the academy is closed this week, some shai went amok and....
no srsly semester 1 ended last week and semester 2 will start the 16th, you'll prolly get your inv then.
I had an inv open too which disappeared some days ago.
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>>2344390
This is a very useful tool for optimising nodes. If you don't like the idea of optimising that's fine, you could consider just getting the easy and efficient ones to start with.
https://shrddr.github.io/workerman/plantzones
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Space aside, how do you deal with the parley? At a somewhat decent skill level it's about 10k per trade, times 5 for the barter count, times 6 for the item tier. You trade for 5>6>7 and you're -900k and you can barely replenish your stock of items.
Seems to be, by design, to only allow 1 maybe 2 barter refreshes before you have to ignore the new tiers. Am i understanding this correctly? Unless i'm supposed to spam parley scrolls but then again they have a cooldown.
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>>2347515
I don't know much about Aaliahan doctrine other than they really don't like centaurs.
On the other hand the centaurs themselves worship this giant black crystal meteorite Kaaba thingy so.....
I'll stick to the simpler things in life, genociding my way through the Black Desert!
Maybe the real Jihad was the friends we made along the way?
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>>2347671
Yeah, tho my heart will always belong to my first BDO love, Eileen!
Alas, Eileen, when will you answer my weekly letters and acknowledge our love???
The weekly "Love-Interest of ..." title goes to the one with the highest amity? Is that across all region servers?
I wonder what I'm up against after 10 years of BDO....someone prolly capped the integer limit for the value '^.^
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>>2347971
What classes did you look at? Newer ones are more cucked, it look Archer like 2-3 years before he even got anything you could actually call a selection.
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Dosa is a good deal more recent, released later in 2024, and so he doesn't exactly have a ton of options. Reminder that 'Premium' is the full monty that aside from underwear, includes an awakening weapon cosmetic. 'Classic' boxes have a mainhand and subweapon, and just 'Outfit' ones have neither.
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>>2348361
Now you listen here son....don't you dare insult my lovely daughter.....be a good lad and bring me 1'500 more of those Clear Liquid Reagents....
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Would you guys say this game is heading towards death or is there a bright future for it, considering Crimson Desert and all.
I downloaded it yesterday, made a cute witch and been having fun since then, I'm debating if I should stick with it or move over to some other mmo.
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This is some truly some next-level kikery PA is engaged in here.
I can understand the hours of grinding and obnoxious amity-farming to get a cosmetic....that's just any MMO....but then at the end of it it's:
Oh you want to wear the cosmetic while PLAYING THE GAME? Not just for standing around like some dumb NPC?
Well that's gonna cost you 5 buckerinos kid!
Or the grandiose music quest for the Florin Festival of Kikery, where after spending hours running around gathering herbs, it sends you off to kill a Worldboss Karanda, and when you get back to righteously claim your well-earned reward you get a FUCKING 10% COUPON AND SEE YOU CAN GO BUY YOUR REWARD HERE IN THE PEARL STORE!!!
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>>2348830
>download free and f2p live service game
>"they charge FIVE DOLLARS for a skin!?!?! REEEEEEEEE"
Did you crawl out of a time machine from 30 years ago?
And if you want cool F2P skins, go kill bloody bastard nouver like 20 times, farm Kama/Ody zones for ~30 hours for La Orzeca, or make a full set of Edania armor (800b)
But you're not going to do any of those because they require actual effort for a cool reward instead of talking to random NPCs for a few minutes like what you're whining about
I say all that knowing the advice is completely wasted on you, as you're probably just some cringe-ass RP'er tourist from a theme park MMO.
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>>2347528
I've been giving all of the freebies that I don't need to my Maehwa alt, this is what gear she has right now. I also have another PEN and TET Blackstar box from Olvia Academy to use, as well as all the Blackstar Hammers, but I think I'm going to give a PEN Mainhand to my Drak and make that a Sov in a few weeks when I've saved enough embers.
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>>2348923
you think 30 hours is much?
Dude I farmed wow pets for entire years....
Anyway, not gonna start discussing which one of us has got less of a life, just saying having an NPC in a fantasy game reward me with a 10% coupon to BUY MY FUCKING REWARD in a dollar-star was a kikeish thing to do, which it is.
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>>2349041
Somewhat, you can still not waste your time with shitty horses by checking their coat/mane style
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>>2349055
Also this one, which is the most common tier7
if you see this faggot horse get it
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>>2347546
i tried my best lol
here is an edit of your drak
>>2348817
hey, first off- make sure your witch is a season character
second post her
3rd if you are having trouble you can ask the guild for help also be sure to join us for weekend bosses, its big money!
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>>2349144
nah witches are popular here, here is mine!
plus i think the collage guy is gone
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>>2349055
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>>2349092
well this wasn't so bad
just took a few more channel hops
seemed liked i was never finding one
i was just wondering if there was a place where they have a tendency to spawn more often
cheers m8s
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>>2348817
In measurable numbers(steam playercount and not counting the standalone client playercount), there were 25k players online on Steam exactly 6 years ago, and there were 25k online today as well.
At the very least, it's stable for sure. There may not be a massive growth or sudden leap into it being THE mainstream game EVERYONE is playing, but there's always going to be a steady amount of people playing.
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>>2349161
Oops, forgot the playercount chart.
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>>2349303
Fellow newcutie but from what I gather its completely dogshit until you get a caravel which lets you fire while you're steering the ship
But yeah this shit is so ass, the most I do with my cannons is blast cock pirates for the daily
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>>2349148
>what are you referring to?
that devilish costume-ization coupon
Ok it's not that expensive, but the mere vileness behind it is revolting.
I can farm all the mats and spend the time crafting the costume, but in the end I can't wear it AS a cosmetic, only as a full armor, which is completely useless for doing anything except standing around....
If I want to wear it as a cosmetic, I need to turn the COSTUME into a COSMETIC using a paid coupon...
That's some serious rent-seeking behaviour in my book...
Anyway, horses are lame, a true adventurer journeys forth on his trusted donkey.
So I shall venture forth into the desert on my beloved Skarsnik....
How fucked am I?
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>>2349881
it's both according to https://garmoth.com/guides/post/tailoring-coupon-guide
First you turn an armor into a costume and then you can heat the costume and you would get a crystal
I can kinda see transmoging a regular armor into a costume being a p2w thing, but creating an actual costume and then having to buy a coupon to turn the costume into a transmog costume is sneaky behaviour.
Prolly gonna buy it anyway at some point, but why be so sneaky about it...
Just sell it as a cosmetic from the get-go if you wanna charge for it.
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>>2349956
bro I think you're misunderstanding something but if you go that route with the tailoring coupon to convert a limited selections of armors into a costume you dont have to pay anything guaranteed
also they give those coupons out occasionally and you get one from trading questline which may or may not be a pain the ass depending on how autistic you are
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>>2350789
just spam magic seeds, it was actually way easier and faster than I expected. hunting all those wildsparks was worse. killing a hekaru in a dogshit sailboat was worse. and getting a fuckton of fairy's breath was the worst.
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>>2350810
im still forced to grow whatever they give me, im not too worried about bush leaves
i was actually lucky on the fairy's breath task and proc'd a minigame giving me 40
sailing is always sluggish to me and i have a deep hatred of the sea
wildsparks were dogwater, and i actually like hunting
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>do random sidequest from the middle of nowhere
>turns into short quest chain
>get a cute functional scuba helmet for FREE
BDO is okay sometimes
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>>2350161
nah it all makes sense no
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-us/Wiki?wikiNo=67
there are "functional" costumes, the ones you buy directly from the pearl store and "non-functional" costumes, the ones you craft yourself
the non-functional are meant to be turned into a functional costume using the coupon, and then y0ou can wear them as a cosmetc or process them further into a crystal by heating them.
This actually answers a lot of questions I've been having.
Like "Why are the Florin Herb Gatherer Clothes completely useless for gathering herbs?" (+1 crit stats)
"Why are the Florin Cook's Clothes completely useless for cooking?" (+2 Movement Speed)
It's because you're meant to spend money either turning them into a cosmetic item or into a stats crystal.
How absurd of me to craft Herb Gatherers Clothes thinking I could actually wear them to gather Herbs.......
And I know I'm shit-talking a lot here, but I'm still having tons of fun in this game.
Just the absurdity of some of these p2w schemes.....almost seems comical
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>>2351425
What's your DP? Put on 2x bitterness crystals if you feel too squishy, res crystals are def necessary if you're a squishy class or have gaps in your combo, cause they can indeed hurt you if you let them and will fuck you up if they cc you. Otherwise just keep back attacking and you won't have many issues
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>>2351521
424 displayed DP, nearly a full ring of +3 on the Slumbering set. After buffs and addons with the current crystal set before resists, it's looking at around ~700 total or so? My class is supposed to be tanky but one try at Aetherion got me CC'd mid-combo fairly often without stiffness resists given the reliance on flows with a few unprotected gaps, certainly put me more on edge than most places; used to spots where enemies are generally dealing bigger chunks of damage, this one just has a ton of anklebiters and I guess an extra bit of latency doesn't help.
Guess it's probably time to ditch Ultimate Macalods when going well over the cap, the Edania crystal appears to make up the difference for over there.
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I'm in such decision paralysis on what to focus on I just end up afk fishing
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the TERA-ification has begun
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