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PSO2NGSnever dies edition
>NGS Headline WAVE (3/31/2026)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Ny2rbUx48&t
>Scratch Tickets:
https://pso2.com/players/fashionitems/
https://www.bumped.org/phantasy/category/scratch/
>News/Events/Etc:
https://pso2.com/players/news/
>NGS Wiki:
https://pso2ngs.swiki.jp/
>NGS Damage Calculator:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SgSmKVXDZet4F8Ot6-PsbUSUPHGe2e VChUVA9uS3g0k/
>NGS Verification Data (frame data, enemy stats, game mechanics, etc):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_OgubzM5QFe4rua4Xu0GSMAI8Idoq8 r2yI8Ioyec6oY/
>Item Codes and Keywords:
https://ngs.pso2-makapo.com/category/in-game-keywords/
>Fashion History
https://nekowabot.io/pso2/fashion
>NGS Roadmap:
https://pso2.com/players/about/roadmap/future/
>PSO2 Information/FAQ
https://pastebin.com/ZDJZdzJJ (embed) (embed)
>Older Phantasy Star Games
https://pastebin.com/cdsJcqUC (embed) (embed)
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Now that the dust has settled, why did he do it?
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>2339513
None of them talk about the game lmao
Shitten doesn't even know what he's saying half the fucking time, his arguments are entirely built on the idea of
>What opinion should I adopt to piss the most anons off at once?
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>>2339447
>butt pic
>cute
Hmmmmmmm
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>is there an erp scene?
>uhmm.. erp has existed.. since the internet?
>no i mean specifically in pso2 ngs..
>uhm.. no shit retard, uhm.. like obviously there is.. just like WoW and FFXIV
>yeah but you're comparing the biggest MMO's in the world with a dead mmo
>erm, aktually.. there is an erp scene... as long as 2 people erp'd in the game in it's entire history, there's an erp scene despite it being dead
lmao
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>>2339595
just the fries in the ba-AAAAAACK
just get jo-Aaaaaaaack
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>>2339604
this has been debunked
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PYC /pso2g/ and also roast me give me your worse let's hear it.
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>the casl poster was silenced in this thread, amidst all this gooning and erp thirsting.
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boxy, buttons, azrice, chu, holden, kritten, kisa, gwiz, nym, emv, firegreen, rope, rance, ollie, vehk, cappu, firefly ren, tsuna, koishi, alice, grimjak, werin, moira, Atalanta, Fall, Franzburg, Potionaholic, Firo, Romalea, Lofn, Platinum, Galama, Buelle, angery, machi, maku, jiggu, firo, Gpof, Nashai, Piyoko, Morgan, Yomiki, Wetdreams, Cornelia, Ars, Rumlatte, Revy, Tomomi, Pellegri, Kriell, Asuka Eros, Xevel, Mokku, Sparrow, Tok, Caduceon, Senzo, W-41FU, Mito, Necromanceme, Yuno, Grizzermacht, Squishy, Andesi, Wakaba, jack
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Glory to the globally mega-popular online game PSO2 NGS!!!!
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>>2339521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxIXxrdafbo
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>>2339508
saar will you pls stop namedropping me my e-rep is going through the floor saar pls I CANT REDEEM THE E-SEX BECAUSE OF YOU
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>>2340073
I'm on this list!!
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The kikes made it to halpha, no wonder everything gets scalped it's over
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>>2339791
https://youtu.be/v4Oaog2N_2E?si=cWb_AiOrrkHvpCLd
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How long will it take until society reaches PSO2-level technology IRL? I want to troon out and become a photon shooting loli so badly.
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>>2340229
>to burned down
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>oh shit a hottie
>turn around camera
>nooooooo
>Lmaoooo
Global is shit
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I knew there were true sylphid fans here.
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Nice song
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>>2341431
Don't randomly talk about my derriere without my permission please.
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>>2339521
https://youtu.be/AS4q9yaWJkI?si=2UfXG-Hv8mdaX5et
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>>2341820
Can I lick your faceplates
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another gwiz video has hit youtube
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i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up i give up
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>>2345097
true
we were all just born yesterday and look like this irl
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Pneuma in PSO2
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amazing level of not crawford foreshadowing in the latest...ngs...prologue story...its almost like we're back in the prologue days with...the official hosts...yunocy, sabakuro3896, popona and hiro arai...none of them play the game anymore? right...so whats this sega ceo talk that "people will return to the game when we put these dragged out updates"? a load of bs? right...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svac_ZCRNp0
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>>2344977
they need to give this game literally anything to even make it match the original or just scrap it all and go back to fully supporting the original. here we have omega v2 but without the dark blast exp or any emergency quest rescue harriet in the forest castle or any multidimensional stuff like xiv odin. they gave this director free reign and he can't even commit to his own ideas.
and who the fuck even sends a rag team into the alter realm when they've established that mags are now floating scout tools and there are drones in central city. this is like landing astronauts on mars before sending robots there first. its beyond fucking stupid, and the 3rd party writers don't even know why scout teams were sent to naberius, because it was a massive cover up and the arks were used to combat negative photons on purpose but you can see there is nothing in depth to the story, every halpha character is so one dimensional and can never be evil so they had to create a xerox copy of their paper thin characters to be evil, scrap the entire game already its not even a good secondhand pso2.
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To hot for mccafe desu
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>>2339521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKGyEly79PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVd4eU8aHj8
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>>2347465
Wait what? it just means anon plays a force/bouncer and loves to use subclass bouncer weapon.
Which btw I think that's pretty cool most force are force/techer so it's nice to meet someone who plays a unique class combination, that's what the game is all about finding what fits (You)r playstyle and I'm glad anonymous found one that works.
Also I don't have a weenus
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this is what you guys look like when the conversation pauses between aina, manon and their alter counterparts just so that your shitty bimbofied ocs can flap their shit at each other, its more cringe than even mihoyoslop. ngs was a mistake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8T4-Xk6bFk
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and yet the english translation is a mod which the main vetter is not as participatory anymore as they focused mainly on pso2es which has stopped updating, and the translation will be influenced by people who literally don't care for phantasy star since they play through all the crap or are non participatory but still vet and you have to use a proxy on top of it. the fuck are you doing when its an already compromised product. 99% of your players are gacha refugees that import everything with them. because who else would fall for this shit.
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>>2348121
you are
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>>2347469
I know many people with over 10k hours. Good mmos have afk timers and kick you out. mmos like ngs can't use afk timers because their concurrent numbers would be abysmal and they like inflating that number as much as possible for clout.
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>>2349327
in fact, I'm seeing these on casts too, is there anything to break the limits of the sliders or something?
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You are an adult right, Anon? You can control yourself and or quit a video game for kids.
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>>2349652
>positions itself in an offensive position by claiming superiority here >>2349610
>passive aggressive filename
>talking down on the anons reading his post by seemingly appearing he has control over himself
>gets immediately proven wrong here >>2349619 because no sane adult would lurk a general for a game they allegedly quit because they are an adult clearly, therefore in reality making the anon actually childish
>counter attacks by lashing out in an immature way here >>2349625 after being undoubtedly BTFO by using his logic against him
>mistakenly assumes the anon is mad because successfully proved his original post wrong
>he can't make further comeback posts without appearing more childish because he doesn't practice what he preaches
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>>2349522
Would people be nicer to me if I became minheight?
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>>2349783
I am going to be honest, no. What you seek is not here or in this games community.
People are only interested in you because they might be able to cum in you, nothing else.
You can forget about any warming humanly event that'll be written in your memory, the truth is they are just holding on to the hopes they can blast a load while looking at your char and maybe your cheating flip switches on to encourage them.
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Whos this retard spamming about now, stupid indian
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This thread sure sucks
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>>2350751
He has a really cute voice
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Why does PSO2 NGS always do this to me
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>Shitposter r tobles/lolcow lulu/kritt/kisa/rope
>noi crickets
>cappu becomes main thread topic
>he is 24/7 afk
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I rather sleep but tiny human keeps me awake at 2 am everyday
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>>2350863
That wasn't me I'm too busy raising a baby dinosaur
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My friend from here is the best.
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>>2350918
anon...
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https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2039024662387339266/vid/avc1/108 0x1920/VLTb-Qax5OXtnJj-.mp4
Please sega employee that frequents this
place, we suffered enough and paid for the
Original Sin. It is time to let go and release PSO3.
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>>2351962
the irony is that launch ngs was better than the rancid state they left pso2 in, that is, after they purposely killed shop passes, not bothering to balance out luster modes that aren't fomel and letting cradle ruin the economy.
however, idola was still running up to retem and newer = better and it was the better game while ngs was still picking up the pieces. and then tower of fantasy came out. and that was the end of whatever legup ngs had.
ngs has stopped updating or trying since the aegis conclusion. anything released after beats it easily. nobody is playing open world clone #243309672 that is dated and is clearly on maint mode with nothing new but recycling. even the fashion is uninspired.
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>>2351045
I barely play. The game is very boring and I can't be asked to grind.
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Hello, I've finished this game a year ago and
was wondering if they added a lot of content
since I heard it's been 5-6 years out (?)
Ty for replies
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>wanted to play the game after a long absence
>log in
>maint logs me out
I just wanted to see what I missed....
I havent logged in since like last year early feb did force change or did they had any additional stuff to it?
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>>2350918
Mabinogi
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Yeah
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>>2352461
i forgot
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thank you
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>sociallybinepy
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>>2353044
If only it was possible in this day and age, the last generations basically pornwashed away their limited dopamine
Gaming industry that keeps people nowaday:
>Cute/normified
>Porn/Softporn/Related
>Pvp
>Autism exploiters altogether
nothing else, gaming is very much made to exploit people in poor conditions or conditioned by your normal day to day
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I just want a PSO3/PSU2 that follows the theme full of dark gritty story and doesn't break immersion with garbage casual clothes and obvious soft porn. I don't want to log in a game and see only people in bikinis, if I wanted to watch porn I'd go to a porn website.
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>>2353135
I thought this was video game & cooking recipe forum what the fugg
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>>2352892
idk if this is true but I would very much like to see T1 Cappu x T1 Angery
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https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/519769464/#q519804987
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/519769464/#q519802881
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>>2353163
I'm not that person.
Anyway make this >>2353157 happen NOW!
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>>2353118
when you see games like lost planet and vanquish display actual sovl and emotion and tower of fantasy which shares pso2 weaponry like jet boots you really wonder what the fuck happened. the answer no doubt is focusing on squeezing the players of as much money as possible while cost cutting to the degree that it is insulting and only palatable to people who only got 10 years of good experience from pso2, pso2es and idola. makes you wonder why the fuck did they waste half of ep6 resources bringing pso2 to the west. the concept of "the west will buy it because it is japanese" is no longer applicable especially when its full of nothing but remakes and reimaginings and they fell right into it. who the fuck is in charge of these kinds of decisions? dinosaurs at sega? figures.
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>>2353327
thats the thing. nobody cared about pso2s low level of graphics and they somehow got the idea that they'll particle spam and uninstance the map and that would sell the game. that's the most uphill battle they could have chosen and they predictably lost. they're not nintendo or a chinese company with infinite domestic demand. they had to be fucking bailed out and bought out by their gambling sammy side to form sega sammy and they blew billions on failed projects like sakura wars. did they think their lucky streak with pso2 would magically last. that only happened because they listened to most player feedback at the time but they will never credit users for it and view it as a mystery on how it lasted 10 years. because players support you if you support them, fuckwits.
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>>2353391
huh? I don't want pso2 back. nothing will ever cultivate the same conditions that resulted in its production. I want the heads in charge of role assignment in ngs to be fired and to never touch the phantasy star ip ever again. phantasy star deserves more than this. pso2 was already dated on arrival. being a service game and robust support made it the superstar that it is.
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What I mean is the franchise's fate was sealed 5 years ago and there's no point remaining upset at this point. NGS isn't going anywhere any time soon and when it eventually goes under the Phantasy Star name will go with it.
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upset? you don't get it either. sega thinks ngs is a reboot of pso2, and so they are satisfied that its doing as shit as it is because its as if pso2 was continued for 15 years when its anything but. it goes beyond pso2. whoever is in charge, you know, maybe the director in charge who knows actually hates pso2 to the point that they fallback on their idea of pso2 being a bad game to excuse ngs negative ratings. and you're letting them get away with it.
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I don't think you understand how Sega views this game. NGS was sacrificed to make up for Sakura Wars' failure and it turns out that despite the game being ass they were still pulling in money. The salarymen don't care about the state of the game if they can play dress up so NGS caters to them by pumping out scratches while releasing rehashed quests over and over to keep up the facade of this being an action game.
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>>2353525
there was no phantasy star game. ngs was some backburner project they shoveled the ep5 director in to keep him busy and they brought out whatever the fuck that was which is decidedly not phantasy star and spruced it up for microsoft to buy out as an exclusive. they sacrificed phantasy star's name in vain.
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>>2353525
I don't think you really understand. SEGA is no longer in that position to pull what they pulled with Sakura Wars, every other Sega Ip they've tried to pivoting to in order to bypass and ignore the fuck up of NGS has been a flat out failure or began diminishing into decline. This is why taking it down is never gonna be on the table for them. NGS is becoming a problem they can't ignore and it becomes more apparent as time goes on. At this point it's just a matter of when the JP fanbase will finally get sick of HMZK's shit again like before with Ep5.
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So basically what happened was that they were trying to fix the jank in PSO2. EP5 was meant to be a big update but they couldnt finish all of it, so EP5 got cut short which is why it was so bad at release.
The things they were working on for EP5 were expanded on and turned into NGS with the engine update.
What went wrong was that the executives rushed the game out before it was early so it became a laughing joke when you finished 3 quest instances in Aelio and the main story ended there.
They also saw the stats for how many players did the story in PSO2, concluded most players didnt care about the story, and decided to spend as little money on the NGS story as possible. So it was outsourced and minimal quests attached to it. They spent a lot of money hiring big name actors for the PSO2 story and they felt it went to waste since most players did not touch the story.
What they didn't realise was that most players in PSO2 didnt touch the story because the matterboard system was shit and the story had no direction till you started finding weapon fragments.
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>>2353619
>This is why taking it down is never gonna be on the table for them.
and yet the elephant in the room is that ep6 happened with an intern director who turned it completely around after the current director's shitshow and its a repeat with ngs except sega refuses to fix the problem because they are corrupt or infiltrated at this point.
>NGS is becoming a problem
they negotiated this shitshows longevity and its a tax writeoff at this point
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>>2353646
As said earlier it's only a matter of when the Jp fanbase finally gets tired of HMZK's shit. This would happen sooner if global side wasn't being spoken for by lunatics too high off the trip of wielding communal authority to do their jobs competently and responsibly. It's up to the jp players too speak out about the state of the game now, and thankfully we are seeing more of that .
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they never will, because they view supporting the 5 years of ngs shitshow as thanking sega for the years of actually good phantasy star. thank god they never use the same fucking director for immediate sequels so this is the end of it, even if it takes 5, 10, 20 years, his meddling role will finally be over.
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This conversation is even more tedious and repetitive than when it's just half an hour of "horny"/"find me..."/"pink hair"
The fuck do you find the energy to show up every goddamn day to bitch about the game's director, let alone all this bullshit palace intrigue prose about how the TREACHEROUS MEDDLING CUR has FORSAKEN THE PHANTASY STAR NAME IN VAIN
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>>2353758
You're not talking about Phantasy Star, though. You're writing fanfiction about Sega staff and the playerbase.
And you're just having the same fucking conversation over and over again, day in and day out, which doesn't qualify as discussion of any topic.
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>Talking about the people who WORK ON PHANTASY STAR and discussing the things they've been implementing and the direction they are taking PHANTASY STAR. is not valid discussion of PHANTASY STAR.
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>noooooo stop questioning why the director hasn't changed as the game is literally molded into omega 2 with omega loser and omega masquerade and not harriet and not elmir shapeshifting saar you are writing fanfiction!!!!
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>>2353988
So why is it only a problem when it's about Pso2 or phantasy start in general.
Why are the ffxiv threads allowed to talk about their old ass game no problem?
Why is the Warframe Thread allowed to talk about their old ass game, no problem?
Why is the FFxi thread allow to talk about their old ass game no problem?
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>>2354095
You're a fucking retard. It has been explained to you, multiple times in just the last couple screens, what the problem is, and it's not "talking about the game."
This general has, by this point, probably like a hundred threads where anyone scrolling past a morning worth of posts has seen this exact same fucking script
>oh boo hoo hoo, the director of the game is really bad
>he hates the game, he agrees with all of my opinions about it but inexplicably wants to destroy it by making it into episode 5
>boo hoo hoo, phantasy star isn't as popular as it was a decade ago
>oh crisis of crises, tower of fantasy has taken over as the anime sci-fi game
>it's the fault of the japanese playerbase because they just want to work and scratch
>it's the fault of the pso2 playerbase because they want ngs to be pso2
>it's the fault of the global playerbase for not being japanese
>forget what i said about the japanese playerbase, they're going to save us by getting mad about the director
People have engaged with you dozens of times, politefully and respectfully, agreeing and disagreeing with various things, and you never take any new information on, and you're just back the next day with the exact same melodramatic bullshit right from square one. Every time you get called out on it, you launch into this "OH SO I CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE GAME HUH" routine. We're sick of it. You're not interested in "talking" about anything. You just want to put on the same retard show and bitch about the same retard talking points, every fucking day. Enough already.
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>>2354172
And they see this exact same script because people like you won't talk about game or even encourage talking about the game or games seeing as this general was suppose to be for the whole franchise. It's not like people should be stopped from doing things like actually playing NGS, or going back to pso2 for Nostalgia runs, setting up Pso1 or PSU sessions, or even just talking about the old rpgs, and yet this general for some reason has none of that as if it's not allowed to have any if that to begin with.
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I don't think a single person would mind talking about other Phantasy Star games. But I mean actual talk about the game itself. Bosses, classes, gear, maps, advice and strats, whatever the fuck you need to talk about. If no one talks about those things it's simply because there is zero interest in those games or they have a better place to talk about them than this dumpster of a thread. "Sega baaaad kill director" is not the kind of tangentially game talk people wanna talk about anymore. It's been 5 years. If you don't like the game just leave.
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No that's what it's trying to be forced into. The game is just an severely underdeveloped messed ran by a dude whose already proven he 'd run this game into the ground yet somehow weasel'd his way back in charge, getting his player feedback from someone who has all but completely imploded the game's community reputation.
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and yet this is what the pso2 side has always talked about, whether it be as recent as roboarks, to as ancient as bumped, g-heaven, pso2blog, psoworld, psumods, 4gamer, famitsu, dengeki and more. every other thread would have discussion from magazine excerpts of developer sayings and even datamines about the game. you're retarded if you think it is out of place. you're just unhappy that your shitposting alliance using this place is being "disrupted".
>>2354190
>actually playing NGS
lets be advice is given but they all drop the game because everyone is accelerated to a nonexistant endgame. the story railroads into dext base and is like this is all there is. what the fuck.
>or going back to pso2 for Nostalgia runs
the lighting is all ruined and its practically unplayable without an alive player market and playerbase. killing most of the repeat star gem sources killed pso2.
>setting up Pso1, PSU sessions
its been two decades there isn't anything left even the infinity well is bone dry by now
>If you don't like the game
you don't like that people are talking over your selfie posts and erping. what do those add to the discussion at all? liking the state of the game isn't an excuse for that. if you like the state of the game, why aren't you ingame? many players left this game to its own device for 5 YEARS and look at godawful state of this as no phantasy star alternative. that ep6 managed to turn ep5 completely around will always be the point of contention. all ngs problems could be solved if someone found the root of the corruption at sega and replaced them with people that actually care about pso2 and phantasy star. and lets be clear this affects you to: sega is happy to add +10s to everything to count as an update and you get no collabs nor player design contests as well. the people that tend to defend this tend to have genshin impact avatars and its like there is a whole world of other games, stop dragging down phantasy stars quality with it
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Tower of Fantasy (幻塔), developed by Hotta Studio under Perfect World, was released in China (December 2021) and globally (August 2022). Since then, it has become Perfect World's largest international project, standing out as one of the company's most profitable and technically advanced MMOs.
• Estimated Revenue per Year
2022 ≈ US$425 million Year of release and peak global popularity. 2023 ≈ US$165 million Natural decline and stabilization after the initial boom. 2024 ≈ US$ 175 million Return of growth, with a strong presence in China. 2025 (Q1) ≈ $35–40 million Continued but lower revenue; mobile sector in slight contraction.
Total (2022 – March 2025): ≈ US$800 million worldwide (Equivalent to approximately ¥5.6 billion yuan)
You LOST tranny.
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How much will this make for sega?
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>game so shit people won't even erp in it
grim. even /rog/ is propped up by erp and that game has chibi lowres sprites for characters
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What the fuck happened to EMV? I was not ready for that jumpscare when the black woman disappears. Dude looks like hes running around an abandoned chinese building at 2am.
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>>2355134
tof died after 2 years because all gacha games are programmed like that. gacha games were never supposed to bear the weight of a long term series japanese mmo collapsing, but here we are. it was never a replacement and yet its advancements showed what the fuck ngs should have been like by now. ngs can't even be bothered with patch notes because nothing of value is added anymore or manifestos to fix its problems other than "we deal with afk players" looooooooooooooool if they really wanted to deal with that theyd make the game more engaging than it is.
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tof is still up and funding neverness to everness with a strong domestic market. they have a funny feud with mihoyo buying ads under their game trailers and vice versa showing their competitiveness. what is ngs funding and competing with lol. all your game talk is nothing but halpha which people cleared in the beta. you don't even have three classes from pso2 and summoner isn't even fighting with pets anymore. you don't even have casino, challenge mode and pvp or any party game where it isn't solo play. there's zero socialisation from gameplay.
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>What is NGS funding
SEGA'S existence until they finally get there shit together and bail themselves out of hole that fucking over Pso2 got them in.
>What is NGS even competing with
It should have been and would have been Blue protocol if Bamco was actually ran competently, but because they aren't and the guys over Star Resonance aren't doing any better, NGS still "reigns" uncontested.
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>>2356112
at least back then during ep4 and ep5 when story progress and rewards wasn't unified, you could keep resetting a character slot and farm sg and rewards. why does sega insist on rebooting pso2 as ngs? they will never understand what made it tick and they can never recreate the exact conditions. if you wanted to build a time machine, you have to expand more effort and resources than originally. its just common sense. when did sega go complete retard?
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>why does sega insist on rebooting pso2 as ngs
Because they missed out on a shit ton of money back when Pso2 was just Jp only, like 8 to 10 years worth of worldwide money. Rebooting NGS was suppose to be them making up for whey should've did with pso2 since day one like they initially planned. The issue at NGS's launch is that SEGA got to cocky and thought they could neglect the launch for other IPs and the issue now is literally HMZK who's lost the plot again.
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As I said, they got cocky, the plan was to make pso2, but a bigger mmo out of it. When they released pso2 to global finally, they saw so much praise and revenue and got complacent, thinking they could release it early and underfunded while they pushed other IPs. Then it all back fired on them.
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>>2356351
I can't imagine which blockhead looked at open world design and thought "yeah, we'll fill it with rectangular ui and inventory rape the playerbase all the time, that's a great idea". the open world was evidently supposed to stall players as they make slower development and yet they speedrun players through it now. this game is even more clueless than the playerbase at what it wants.
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>>2356399
My bad on>>2356409, I didn't read that fully because I thought it was gonna be another Genshin comparison. Anyways the blockhead who would think what you just said is the guy who thought day 1 Ep5 of base pso2 was the vision forward, an entire episode of just everyone playing one class and doing literally one quest over and over again.
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yeah I play mmos. they have flavor text to help flesh out the world. they introduce alien races to prove that their galaxy scope is huge and that there is a galaxy wide threat by showing, not telling. they also have horny mushrooms. now that they have shown alter realm, nobody gives a fuck about the galaxy threat because everyone at risk can just hide in different dimensions.
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>>2356475
I mean the galaxy threat comes from that dimension, and they would still have to risk making sure said dimension is even habitable, but that's beside the point. The point is that under normal circumstances there should be no reason NGS doesn't have any of what you just described. Hell even base pso2 had all of that.
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>>2356475
and this is what irks me about ngs. it undid the writing genius that pso2 accidentally stumbled upon, that in this universe everyone is made of photons and the evil is able to occur anywhere anytime if they give in to the darkness instead of overcoming evil making it a truly universal threat. and it reverted into generic alien threat. this isn't even a reboot or a good tale, it's a skinwalker wearing pso2.
harriet and shiva were also a good representative of the previous great vessel and now they bring her back just to oshit no go to open up portals. that just opens up more questions as to why the starless created us. we weren't the greatest creation or the greatest host, we rejected and even escaped double's influence and etc, we are basically 50% corruptible at best. so why did they make copies of us instead of harriet. so no, they really shouldn't have poked into pso2 because that just brings out all the plotholes that were skimmed over because it was a constantly updated game.
in short what the fuck is sega doing the fuckery has got to be one of the greatest in the industry.
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>>2356501
and then you look at idola, and it basically expanded upon dark blast and made everyone able to idolarize through their passed down levels of negative photon corruption and dna and being born under the stars, while the dark falz have evolved into the gang of four of idola mentis, things that cloud logical reasoning over the admittedly sometimes poorly defined dark falz in pso2. idola was the one game that actually brought newcomer and outsider interest into the concept of phantasy star and ngs wasted all that effort.
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TWO star gems?
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we aren't, thats why elmir acts like a brat because as the representative of profound darkness and that which gave in to despair, he lost all dark falz to us who achieved complete mastery over the dark falz. we are an awful host for darkness, because we had innumerable repetitions as persona until we became omniscient and wiser. in other words, peak storywriting.
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Because when we met him in Omega we ourselves had already cheated a way out of becoming profound darkness. Persona stood in and took that burden for us. Again, Persona is just you from a timeline that had to kill Matoi and took on that negative photon burden, which is why he and you by extension were primed to become Profound Darkness. Elmir's confusion comes from that fact that he's just a stand in for PD as it was suppose to be. However the PD that we fought and that Persona became is one that's a massive diverge from the events Omega is suppose to emulate as Arks history.
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>try PSO2/NGS
>get bored
>go back to farming the same rare drops I've been farming for the last 20 years in PSO1
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>>2356112
retard, as the successor and reboot, the only standard ngs has ever had to compete with was its predecessor pso2, and it has all the other peer games to steal ideas from and yet they just use the pso2 name to sell this garbage instead. and creative space forever sucks by bringing back old furniture minus their original functions and interactivity to sell idle motions. even if they introduce new creative space tech its still fucked at its core. if thats all on the roadmap then they should scrap this game. and yet retards still overdose on the hopium. the level of retard you have to be to bring that point up to defend the game is off the charts. and yet those skinwalkers actually walk among us.
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nobody really expects ngs to be anything but better than pso2 itself. it doesn't need or care about competition. it never really gave a fuck what xiv was doing. but ngs is not part of the pso2 line of improvements at all. all that progress such as making active skills long duration and short cooldown, they blew it to the wind. its as much as the same entity as code vein 2 is to code vein 1. a butchered pso2 being called a sequel or reboot is not pso2. its a travesty.
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>>2357194
But again they are still technically the same game. This isn't stated in defense of NGS, this is stated to further hilight how they dropped the ball with what NGS was supposed to do. Rather than seeing it as NGS being separate from Base and it deciding to do it's own thing, you should be looking at this as SEGA somehow being convinced to kill off half of an entire game, the half that drew in all the new comers in the first place to even warrant investing in trying to do a soft reboot to accommodate everyone, only to then let the other half become this massively underdeveloped shell of what is left the game.
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>PSO2
>NEW GENESIS
>"New Genesis" generally signifies a fresh start, a new beginning, or the creation of something entirely new. It combines "New" with "Genesis," which represents the origin, birth, or creation of something significant. It is frequently used to imply a "new creation" or a spiritual rebirth.
>genesis
/ˈdʒɛnJsJs/
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the origin or mode of formation of something.
PSO2 NEW ORIGINS
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>>2357239
It will never be part of the same universe because they fired the story writer who also wrote all the flavor text. Both game services are dead as a result.
>>2357257
Well yes in the sense that pso2 is always available so they can use it as an excuse for disatifaction with ngs that you can go and rattle the barebones of pso2 left. this isn't fanservice it is insanity.
>>2357299
It will never be pso2, its the addendum of complete garbage. Like a parody but its not even funny at all. Every game has premades or a robust enough character creator by now. All they had to do was make it something like tower of fantasy with actual combat and challenge tier investment and they made a shitty botw/genshin/ep5 isekai fantasy clone instead. They made like 1% effort with trinitas and ordinal tower and then they gave up because now the fanbase is full of retards that were sold on the shitty isekai idea. They destroyed this franchise.
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>this isn't fanservice it is insanity.
That's my point, anon. That's why people shouldn't be treating these as to separate entities and giving them the excuse "Dear player Pso2 Classic is still playable and accessible."
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Thats the other thing. They violated all obvious player negotiated agreements from pso2 such as shop availability and no seller tax and force people who just want to play pso2 to go through a ngs title screen and worsened ingame lighting that even affects enemy attack opacity and all the ngs bloatware. They better not go and blame players for ngs failure after renegading on just about everything to attract a non existant new fanbase. They remade pso2 for tourists and expected them to stay. Sega went peak retarded.
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What else would you call it? Sega keeps thinking players want complete new while failing to deliver what they previously offered like my room, casino, AIS etc. on launch. The first step with a sequel is to carry over as much functions as possible, not stuff so many unfinished half baked unlongevity projects with nothing for the playerbase to stand on while simultenously claiming they can't do anything because it relies on legacy pso2 code. Why even make this shit then looooool. This is the greatest fuckup sega has ever done bar none.
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>Sega keeps thinking players want completely new
Completely new would be totally acceptable, but the thing with NGS is we aren't really getting that in alot of cases we keep getting shallow retreats of stuff we already had before, that's not getting expanded on.
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So I started the game a week ago
>Story is super simple, I skipped a ton of cutscenes from the first part until you defeat the first Dark Falz, then the Resurgent Arks arc get more interesting but gets predictable again later, this last arc isn't so much interesting either with the "your commander but evil clone" now
>I like the battles but not the combat system, too simple and spammy I wonder how this game isn't on phones
>overworld is too empty and generic for the most part, some cocoons are fun
>game relies a ton of dailies
>and the point of dailies is getting tickets and meseta so you can make your character what you want
>It seems the hardest content in the game is about getting the best ranks in time and that depends on your gear
> I barely touched the gear since I started the game, the game gives your good gear to finish the story and to get in time with the urgent quests.
>And I didn't bother because I have like 700 items that I don't know what they do
Right now I'm just playing to level up other classes so the game feels different but I don't think i will touch this game more than a month
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Rethread? The combat is a mess and anything but. At first they thought they were pso2 so they projectile spammed and forgot tnat counters were severely nerfed. Then they thought they were xiv so they spammed orange lanes of doom. Now they think they are modern counter games by giving high starless insulting attack cues. Bruh why does the combat even exist anymore in this game if they can't even maintain it lol.
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