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does this game have some kind of problem with on death mechanics? I died 2x times now to the exact same red explosion on death mechanic. that stupid helltide worm popped out and shat out some monster, they died and with them they exploded killing my character. I dont quite understand how defense/ehp works in this game. my hp doesnt move a single pixel at t12 not even when I intentional try to get hit but then they add these explosions and some weird exponential boss scaling mechanics, for what purpose?
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We didn't even reach page 10... But at least we're getting there. Good work OP.
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>It's a war plan with 2 infernal hordes
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>>2476332
skipskipskipSKIIP
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Now THAT is what I call a war plan!
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>>2476336
That is after the skips, sis.
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Between Necros and Warlocks, which is more fun to play and which performs better endgame?
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>>2476439
Lock shits for trillions of dmg and Necro is in a cuck shed
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>come back after a few seasons
>"hmmm lets try the old reliable rogue build"
>buy every trap
>get preparation
>get flurry
>look for legendary affixes
>mfw

uhhh... bros? where did my fucking legendary affixes go? my traps becoming grenades? my my trap cooldowns? my ult? they didnt just nerf this they thanos snapped it out of existence. am i missing something...?
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>>2476325
back to /sp/ peruANO
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>>2476544
Dude the game is different now, shit got overhauled
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>>2476314
-its good to have a source of fortified and/or barrier
-stacking resists is always good
-endurant faith gloves or charm so you survive the one shot and can see what was killing you so you can avoid it in future.
-moving is always good, plenty of shit should be trying to kill you in higher torments, so moving out of the aoes should be necessary.
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>>2476686
No, I will inhabit both /sp/. You couldn't get rid of me during beta phase and Scosglen memes and you ain't getting rid of me meow.
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guess i'm doing the transfigure spam on 2handed ancestral maces now

lets see if I get one in 400 mats
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What's an Infernal Horde and why are people in this thread so afraid of it? I haven't unlocked Warplans yet, I just finished VoH.
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>>2476342
kino
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>>2476906
timesink endgame activity where you pick boons every 1 minute round. can be 6 or 10 rounds. you get get absolutely fucked by rng and waste 12 minutes of your life. it's also boring gay and retarded
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It's impressed how I liked all three mercenaries from Diablo III but I don't like a single one from Diablo IV (Subo is ok I guess but not very interesting.)
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>>2476906
its just kind of lame, you'll see
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>>2476906
Infernal Horde used to be the way to get XP relatively quick, but now it's become a waste of time where you get better XP elsewhere like Undercity orbs. The warplan tree for Infernal Horde was poorly planned.
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>>2476300
I need to touch on the topic of inventory and its overall management.

Having recently gone back to D3, to play around out of curiosity I got a harsh reminder how better organization for it was in that game. You had small squares that each type of item could take up from 1 (amulets, rings etc.) to 2 (other gear) slots.
That alone helps with keeping stuff organized. As opposed to D4 where for some reason they decided everything is the same giant ass tile size. How the fuck does that make logical sense?
>inb4 muh consoles
D3 was released on consoles and the tiling works well with a controller. Hell, it's probably the main reason why they went from multi slot D1 and D2 to what we had in D3. And if consoles had to be included that made sense. D4 going full retard on the system doesn't however. Even stash is dumbed down to the point where we have limited icons to differentiate the tabs with. Tabs themselves are in smaller number than the amount of loot you might want to keep (code limitations I know, but it shouldn't have been the case to begin with here)

And a sidenote how terrible the runes problem was solved
>Guys! There were runes you didn't really use so we reduced the 'clutter' and now all of them can fit in your tab
Yeah, if only there was yet another tab for the gems since the tiles/slots are still to big for those....

Anyway, thank you for tuning in for my blog, I needed to vent.
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>>2476998
t. didn't play diablo 2
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Call me Mephistob Lord of Hatred because boy do I fucking hate this season.

Blizzard definitely just glances at the playerbase and sees the same cucks that infest WoW due to all the skins and absolutely not giving a fuck about releasing broken products because cucks will be cucks and just take it up the ass
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>>2477049
I'm surprised people think the season that releases with the expansion is anything but good. You played for the story and should have ended there. Whether you were disappointed or not is fair game.
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why did they get rid of alchemy?
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>>2477247
i think they said that the vast majority of players just used them for XP gain and they just made the monsters give more xp instead
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burning the tree of whispers was such horseshit. it was all gucci when Elias was put there but when Lorath goes there suddenly its too far and we need to burn it down
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>>2477484
Yes?
Elias was a dick, a traitor and the one who brought Lillith back
Lorath was a good friend who helped prevent/mitigate 2 apocalypses
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Easiest greater lair boss for a dogshit rogue to fight blind?
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>>2478304
Probably Andariel but whether a boss is easy or hard very much comes down to if you are melee or ranged.
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>>2478329
I'm Dance of Knives so ranged unless I switch to grenades.
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>>2478329
Nm I pooped on Andy in 5 seconds.
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>>2478384
Yeah she's easy, I swear she has Varshan levels of health
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why does Lilith have dick sucking lips?
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>>2478773
villains can have supermodel bimbo faces and big tits, hags and goblinas for the player though.
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>>2476906
Of all the endgame minigame content modes it is the most lackluster. Fun keys for other content modifies them so that something cool happens, good or bad. Keys for IH makes it take even fucking longer.
Honestly it should play like ARPG Killing Floor than whatever the fuck it is now.
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So i heard they added a few secrets, like secret pit bosses and murlok pet. Anyone got any info on that?
also fuck the 666 cows grind
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Does anyone else have performance issues with this game despite having solid specs?
I get these framedrops and random hiccups sometimes and if I take too many screenshots then the game becomes unplayable and I have to restart it.
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>>2479774
Yeah mate. I was getting crazy crashes last week when I installed. I set the max frame rate to 60
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>>2479808
- and that did indeed fix it. Sorry mate, not sure what happened there, I might be getting retarded in my old age.
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>>2478773
first thing I thought of when I saw her, tb h
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>>2479490
the pit: the first floor when you say "something is following me", look around for a scrap of paper and click on it. do this for lvls 1, 6, 11, 16, etc until 101. then spam pit 101 until choron spawns in as the pit boss and you kill him. not sure if this would work if you have "killing the butcher ends the pit level" tho
murlok pet: get lucky fishing. i 100%ed the fishing collection, including all purple fish, and i have not caught the murlock pet.
cow level: yeah it's a grind, but it's fun to moo at your friends and toss them a stamina potion and it's fun to deny randos a moo when they rudely demand it at world boss
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>>2479944
cool, thanks anon. Yeah i saw that something is fllowing me line a few times but had no idea what the hell it was, thought it was some random warlock quirk
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I’ve Missed the free paladin trial and I got diablo from the humble bundle, I know that without dlc alot of the content is missing but is the base game good enough to try it out and buy the dlc later if I like it?
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>>2477484
Why did the tree just let it happen didn't even put up a fight? I thought it was supposed to be some magical super being? If it could have been destroyed all along by anyone walking by with a lantern how did it survive all this time?
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>>2480187
>erhm, uh, well you see
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are we D3 now?
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>>2480187
>If it could have been destroyed all along by anyone walking by with a lantern how did it survive all this time?
Tyrael specifically mentions no normal fire can burn the tree, and he gives you the (buffed) torch to do it.
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>>2480256
That's just the excuse they made up at the last second. Makes no damn sense not to have the tree be a boss fight at least.
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>>2476998
I think with d4 they want to give you one extra tab for each expansion you buy. I'm not sure they have thought about it much beyond that.
In d2 the stash was intentionally limited, you were not mean to hoard, it was one of the resources to manage. In the xpac it got expanded, people liked to hoard items. In current form in d2r and mods they have lot of tabs and special tabs for runes.
I don't really have a point other than what has happened with these type of games is that there tends to be more stash over time but never enough people always complain.
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original d2 stash was this small
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>>2480199
shits lame to hit this though
you have to use the frost nova rune and the freezing damage talisman and time it
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Man this season is so bad, exploits and bugs left and right. Just facerolling p150 is fucking boring
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I have like 60 Uniques and the majority of them are worthless for me. What's my best option to do with them regarding the Cube?
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>>2480686
>intentionally uses bugs and exploits
>wow this game so easy!
retard lol
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>>2480168
Decent enough if you want to play through 2 campaigns for the story but it won't really be reflective of proper endgame content.
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>>2480893
>cheats game
>wonder why it's easy and boring
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Do I bother rolling it?
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Dumb question but how do I do Infernal Hordes?
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>>2481144
That's the best part - you don't!
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>Butcher spawns in my pit
>Makes zero sound
>Does a frame 1 charge
>Instakills me before I can even react
Great game, Blizzbabs
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almost finished
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anon why are you playing this pozzed deislop game
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>>2481774
How did you do it.
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>>2481961
grinded 6 round hordes with the chaos portal talent nodes
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>>2481998
>6 round
FUCK ME.
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anyone need a selig or tyraels
dropped a 4 ga selig so dont need these anymore
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rogue bros: glynn's anvil aspect is great for chest slot. get that resolve node in concealment, GA your resolve stack temper and masterwork crit it, and walk around with 88% damage reduction
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>>2482031
Yeah me
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>>2481528
I figured I'd go through this season on normal before trying hardcore since I normally play hardcore in arpgs but I am not going to do it for D4 because this game is way, way more unfair bullshit than any other arpg I've played, and that's saying something since I've taken every class in D2 through hardcore Hell and there's some real bullshit in D2R that doesn't scratch what D4 pulls.
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>>2482069
sent (:
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We really need more storage space.
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>War plan levels are not shared between characters
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>>2482317
it’s insane how limited the storage space is. that + the obol limit is just astounding to me.
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Why is this general so fucking dead? Is this not really a popular game?
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>>2482945
some games just dont do well on 4chan as far as generals

lot of popular games dont even have generals, like counterstrike or valorant
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>>2482945
First time here?
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kek the fanta portal sucks
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feels like hordes got "buffed" monster levels seem higher. way to make the worst event in the game even worse blizz
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>>2482473
Apoc spamming is pure cancer, can't fucking see shit
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>>2483110
There's minion build but it's boring as fuck
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did they fix sorc after the accidental nerf? finna make one tomorrow
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>>2480549
based
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>>2481774
i will never get there. i'll do every other meme activity muh cows muh fish muh portals etc but never get that to 7
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got btfo by mephisto in phase 2 (two)
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do you guys have any tips? yes i have endurant faith charm. i'm playing dread claws.. should i switch?
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>>2482945
It's because
>it's /vm/ not /vg/
>season boom is fading
>it's a blizzard game and blizzard games get shit on by default on 4chan by people trying too hard to fit in
>4chan is full of poe players who also shit on diablo by default
Being on a lower traffic board is for the better
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>>2483231
based autist. we've been over this countless times.
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>>2483234
thread is not fast enough, it would just get bumped into oblivion by the 100 different gachas generals
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Am I missing out if I never play the base campaign. Bought the game last week, just playing a seasonal char through the new dlc. Should I bother next season with the base campaign. I’m lvl 60 rn
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>>2483388
>Should I bother next season with the base campaign
Do you care about the story you've seen so far? If so, maybe.
I'd wait until next season regardless unless you really want to push the endgame ASAP. My first character did base game + VoH seasonally and the seasonal gimmicks were a fun distraction while going through the campaigns.
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>>2483388
i got it from the humble monthly bundle and bought the dlc and played all 3 campaigns, it wasn't very long if u just beelined the main quest
honestly i didn't really care for it, but I wanted to at least do it to see it. but again, i quite literally don't recall a single moment that i thoroughly enjoyed. there are a few cool moments in the pre rendered cinematics but i mean, they have to at least do that to get people to buy it in the first place
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am i crazy or the top guys use WASD to walk? im new ofc
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>>2482996
>lot of popular games dont even have generals, like counterstrike
This one I really don't get. People love shit talking and there is tons of material with their vast esports. Blows my mind that there is no place to talk about CS on 4chan.
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>>2482945
D4 bad

You fucking dumbass thought it was a funny maymay?
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How the fuck do I leave the ~100 million damage hell? I got carried through T8 Lilith but I'd like to do it on my own now.
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>>2483791
Just pick a meta builid it's not difficult.
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>>2483799
I'm sure one can get to at least a billion without having to follow the meta though, right?
Building your character is half the fun, I'd rather not outsource the whole process to someone else.
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>>2483815
Blizzard doesn't make those kind of games. This isn't poe where you can workshop your own build. You either follow the meta or face the wall. You can't force shitty skills to not be shitty just because you try really hard.
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D3 mercs
>misguided zealot who develops compassion and agency
>quipping scoundrel with a heart of gold
>cute awkward mage sidekick who was went through time to aid you
D4 mercs
>one-armed homosexual Jew
>annoying demon kid
>asshole with dialogue drier than the Sahara
>ugly old hag girlboss cannibal
Where the fuck did we go wrong?
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>>2483818
>You either follow the meta or face the wall
>This isn't poe
come the fuck on lmao
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>>2483570
Force move i reckon
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>>2483570
The top guys don't walk, they just teleport to move.
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Why does this game shit on Inarius so much?
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>>2484068
Because he was a cuck
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>>2484068
They generally thought hating on men is cool while forgetting it wasn't really logical to prop Lilith to be some neutral lawful humanity lover since even during the events of LoH campaign her demons are still roaming the sancutary screaming for "blood for lilith" (or something along the lines)
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>>2484081
>penetrated Lilith so hard she was banished from reality
>somehow this makes him the cuckold
???
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>>2484068
>what if we subverted expectations and made an angel le heckin' bad while making a demon le fricking good
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>>2484085
>>2484094
It's just weird the tonal shift when you find the memory of Inarius, immediately my normally pretty reasonable and stoic character called him a "dunce" and over the course of the scene he was called a retard three more times, called weak over and over, etc. This is a guy who has been chained up in Hell for basically eternity being tortured by the literal villain of the game, IDK it just felt like there was aggressive contempt for this character who is at least a little tragic when you think dispassionately about it.
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>>2483961
I was hoping we got Tharra as a new merc, shame
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>>2484094
I wouldn't call Lilith "good" desu
Mephisto is also portrayed as shitting and crying when he's defeated so who cares if one angel is depicted as pathetic
Though I liked the "most angels are selfish and ultimately only care about themselves" approach more with Imperius
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>>2484176
Angels aren't even selfish, they're just acting within their nature. Humanity from their POV are just a less insidious version of demon. They don't really owe humanity any sympathy.
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>>2484176
Imperius literally did nothing wrong
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>>2484092
He was in Mephisto's cuck chair for like 10000 years
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>>2484099
Yeah the story is pretty bad. You collect three pieces of a sword and then it's over.

Really lame as fuck material.
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>>2484361
Mephisto wasn't fucking his wife in front of him, therefore it is not a cuck chair.
If anything he cucked Mephisto, by fucking his daughter, the Ultimate, Final Cuck, according to the hobbit with the pipe. Not only that, but Lilith is made from Mephisto's essence, so in a way he impregnated Mephisto. If anything Mephisto is the cuck.
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>>2484362
>You collect three pieces of a sword and then it's over.
Given Blizzard's track record, the shorter the story the better.
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im breezing past the game on my first run in expert, i have very little experience in arpgs. is the this easy and gets stupidly hard later or what
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>>2484868
If it's too easy put it in penitent, you'll get better loot and XP
But yeah the campaign is pretty easy
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>>2485597
expert is the highest i can go before finishing the game
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>>2485639
well that fucking sucks
bravo blizzard
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>>2483705
used to be a csgog ages ago. not sure why it ended
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>>2483815
you probably can. what class are you playing?
some skills just kind of outright suck though, so if you don't pick at least one of the top ~3 you're gonna be stuck doing jack shit probably. But theres a lot of leeway even if you're not 100% meta to get to at least the 100billions which should let you do t12 content depending on your survivability

to hit 10s of trillions though definitely needs a lot of thought-out synergy which is why its reserved for the more meta builds
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>>2484868
you will hit a difficulty wall in the torments probably unless you're following a build pretty closely. I think I just winged a necro minions build until like t8 where I started not being able to kill shit
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do we like diablo 4 better than 3
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>>2486297
yes
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>>2486297
yeah
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logged in today and i was taking forever to kill anything i thought something got nerfed. however. drunk last night me found a charm upgrade i swapped out and it turns out it was for a different set so i wasn't getting the right bonus kek what a retard
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i am the lorath, and I speak for the Horadrim
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>stuck in T10
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>>2483705
>Blows my mind that there is no place to talk about CS on 4chan.
anon, the second fastest thread on this board (which isn't saying much, but still) IS the counterstrike 2 general
there's even another thread that's explicitly for everything BUT the esports
like, it's bad but it's not valorant-tier bad
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>>2484868
blizzard is retarded and there's no reason why you shouldn't just automatically unlock the pit at level 70
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>it's an infernal hordes week
Maybe this is a sign to stop.
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>>2486574
iktf
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Brehs I'm not enjoying paladin this season. Barbarian or Spiritborn?
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>>2486734
probably barb. i haven't played either but i think barb and sorc are the best?
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>>2486734
really good barb season for 1 build with variations. Sorc strongest as always
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>>2484598
Explain the joke please. :)
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Holy shit sorc feels so much more fun to play than warlock. I've been wasting my time frens.
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>>2485838
>what class are you playing?
Hammer spamming Paladin + auras + constant arbiter
I'm pretty sure the skills aren't the issue, I just really focused on arbiter duration so I didn't have to spam cds to keep it going when I should've gone for more dmg and crit rate
I should also probably get rid of Sundered Night but I love covering my screen with consecration.
Right now I can get up to 200 million.
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I just got carried through Lilith but I've been fucking around on T10 for a bit now. Is the Mephisto fight fun or should I retire now until next season? I'm kinda really tired of not being able to see shit on the ground.
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>>2487381
Instakill mechanics just like Lilith
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>>2487381
insta poison faggotry
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>>2487687
Gooooooood to know! I'm out then.
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>>2484068
>>2484099
inarius is a retard and got what was coming to him for consorting with demons, but my issue w/ the story is like what >>2484085 said; Lilith being turned into a dindu despite letting people get killed and maimed and tortured is just wrong
i know the game lets you pick dialogue choices here n there, and i think it would've been nice if you could at least ultimately pick how your character feels about lilith, instead of fucking spreading her not-ashes into the ocean while sentimental music plays
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>>2487702
>instead of fucking spreading her not-ashes into the ocean while sentimental music plays
Biggest issue imo. Even if you're a simp for her there's no denying that Sanctuary is suffering its particular wave of shit right now because of her failed conquest. It's also annoying because she's a fucking Demon and wasn't exiled again, she's just in Hell somewhere reforming and who knows how she'll feel the next time around.
Also, I think Inarius should come back via his "reincarnation" or however you would describe the reformed-but-mindwiped Angel respawn system. As far as I know we've never seen who was confirmed to be reformed from another dead one, even though logically there should be a lot of them, and Blizzard does love redemption stories. Would be nice to see him reborn and re-take control of the Knights Penitent and turn at least some of it into proper paladins and not discount Scarlet Crusaders.
>but the mind wipe...
Just say he was tortured too much for the mindwipe to take full effect or something.
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>>2487728
>Blizzard does love redemption stories
Sorry, anon, they don't do those for male characters.
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Are Lair bosses the best way to farm mythics? Should i even bother at only T10?
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>>2487757
yes but really, ya should run mythic tribute rotas desu. i've crafted 4 mythics on my own via sparks and breaking em down and it's been heart of salvage every time.
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So I just unlocked Torment 1, what should my focus be on, getting my paragon levels up? or targeting gear?
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>>2487803
Paragon leveling starts out super quick and will come with anything you do, when it seriously starts to slow down around 125-150 then you focus on grinding it.
Gear matters more imo at that point. If you aren't following a guide this is where you need to be pushing your build to see what works and what doesn't, and if you are then you need to keep an eye out for the gear you need, hunting for aspects, stuff like that. At T1 uniques are few and far between, at around T5 you'll be swimming in them. Read up on the cube but don't worry about it too much for now, just now to save anything ancestral with GAs as it may be useful later. I would also say hold off on transfiguring anything unless you're absolutely sure it's a stopgap piece of gear.
So tl;dr focus on gear, refine your build, fuck around with the cube except transfiguring for now, keep anything with a star for later.
The only other piece of advice is don't sleep on leveling runes. You'll eventually get them all so figure out 3-4 to focus on.
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>>2487842
Thanks, the game’s systems seem to open up quite a bit from the 60-70 range, Lair Boss, Pit, Nightmare Dungeons, Undercity all of it wtaf. I’ve just been salvaging everything I don’t use up to this point. But I’ll keep it in mind. I’m running a sorcerer and so far the game has been pretty breezy, just playing around with stacking ferocity and shooting blue balls at everything. Although my build does feel to be slowing down unless Unstable Currents, I think it’s called, the ultimate power, is online. I’ll have a look tomorrow if there’s better builds out there for the spec.
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>>2487803
just spam warplans. theres alot of power in the paragon nodes. some builds need a certain paragon setup to actually work. gearwise I would target required uniques from lairbosses. also dont be afraid to use the cube. mid items can easily be crafted into decent ones
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>>2487817
/fit/
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why is this general so dead if diablo is better than poe
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So be it!
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>>2489534
That's for YOU to know and YOU to find out.
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ded
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>>2489534
everybody here is playing instead of shit posting
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You impetuous fool!
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NO NO NOO
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>>2489534
I prefer Diablo over PoE and I am the canon consciousness of the universe so I'm the deciding factor.
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>>2489630
>I am the canon consciousness of the universe
Are you a bejitabro or gokuRAT?
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>>2489647
I've never really bothered to watch the Dragon Ball stuff but from what I hear and see second-handed, Vegeta sounds like a much more compelling character, I do prefer his visual design too.
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>>2489534
What is there to talk about? These kind of western games don't get fanart, there's little to no deep gameplay or lore to discuss. Everything that could be said about the expansion has been talked about ten times over already. There's literally nothing to do but shitpost until the next season and blizzard games aren't really even worth shitposting about anymore.
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>>2489654
>Vegeta sounds like a much more compelling character
Correct, but you left out that he's also more intelligent and handsome.
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Think we'll get an expansion teaser at Blizzcon or is it too soon?
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>>2489713
blizzard is no longer the company gamers fell in love with

even if they announce an expansion, nobody will care, it will just be another generic equity slop
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Post you're horns.
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>>2489534
d4 is very casual, the systems aren't as deep or incomprehensible to most people like PoE is.

I didnt play until last season so I missed all the growing pains for D4 and I think its a pretty good game and this is coming from a long time PoE1 player (waiting until launch for PoE2 probably I'm not paying 40$ to beta test)
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oh piss off just give me both gem and modifiable already instead of one or the other
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>>2489950
>hornfags
grim
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>120 hours on main character
>no mythic seal
fml
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>>2490278
Mephisto drops mythic seals
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>>2490329
i killed that lil nigga so many times
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dude fuck the butcher in pits. what a fucking asshole
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>>2490340
It has way too much health
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>>2490278
Fight the Burning Butcher or Harbinger for Mythics
Still low chance, but disproportionately higher in my experience, even for Seals
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>>2490503
i heard the burning butcher has high rates, but he didn't drop me anything. i guess i'm more inclined to spam harbinger, cause he can drop useable uniques for my build at least
and *ugh* my kid just got into a car accident tonight (he's ok), so yeah i'm kind of in the mood to mindlessly spam boss fights for the rest of the night i guess. my car is totalledddddd
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>>2490503
hey, do you open this one too? or does it never drop mythic seals?
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Does anyone understand WHY this multiplicative damage pools (buckets) system is in the game? Is it just to diversify builds so that crit dmg isnt always the top stat to go after?
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>>2490626
d4 has always had the multiplicative damage --but it's nice now that the elements etc can also partake of that. idk why you're mad about it--it used to be only crit and vuln. it's a lot broader now! heck even "damage on time" is valid, never thought i'd see the day
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Wake me up when DB barb have a pulse.
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Snu?
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>>2490570
sorry to hear about your car but more importantly, glad your kid is okay
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>>2490672
i really tried to not tweak out about it, and i hugged him a lot. his guardian angel is working overtime!!!
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you’re hitting for 30 quadrillion right bros?
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>>2490684
Nah avoiding all that bugged and exploited shit
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>>2490680
mine's 17 and i worry about him constantly lol
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>>2490721
17 exactly! it's so nervewracking. i am 3 whiskies in right now...
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>>2490721
>>2490744
17 is too young to drive, bump it up to 21 imo.
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I know this is kinda a gay ass question but here goes. I played d3 story and some seasons is d4 worth getting into or is it kinda just for arpg addicts?
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>600 set charm rerolls
>not a single +4 skill upgrade
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>>2490818
d4 is pretty casual friendly bro.
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>>2490818
It's fun, but I'd get it on sale. Game could use a big balance patch too to rough out the more fucked up bits from launch. Also, the next season should start in early July right around the steam summer sale where it should go on a decent discount.
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>>2490820
oh cool, straight up didn't know how grinding was, my last reference for arpg is lost ark after playing d3
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>>2490860
is steam better or battlenet store?
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>>2490869
The benefit is that you'll get to natively use all the aspects of Steam with it.
The downside is cosmetics are buggy on Steam (you have to do a lot of Hold M1, click M2, then release M1 to equip things) whereas the wardrobe just works on Bnet.
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>>2490869
can go either way
personally i got the humble monthly bundle for $15 and then bought the base expac for $40 afterwards
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>>2490901
>>2490907
ill just get the steam version since I leave that up for updates, don't care to much about cosmetics dont really buy them
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>>2490901
Yeah I noticed that, I’m on steam and Season, Reliquaries, and the wardrobe are super buggy. What about the steam version makes it so?
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>>2490818
for what it's worth: i played d3 with a fren, and when d4 launched, he didn't want to learn new systems (old retired guy), so he stayed with d3. maybe 4 seasons ago, i talked him into trying out d4, and he hasn't gone back to d3 at all since.
i think it's hit a sweet spot with the recent expansion update: casuals can just get on and quickly do the season journey and leave, and other people who want to grind for the flawless horadric gems and crazy transmutes and achievement thingies (and i guess leaderboard, but without ssf it's stupid, anyway i digress) can play longer.
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Skovos. An entire expansion, of girlbosses.
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>>2491751
the amazons cat-fighting with each other was highly accurate tho...
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All these on-death gotcha effects are getting old.
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gem farming
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>>2492322
at least I found use for this
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>>2492322
i have tons of sapphires, amethysts, and rubies if you want to trade grand gems 1:1 (i need emeralds)
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I wish the story would stop pretending Lilith is anything but self-serving.
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>>2492368
I don't trade and got my gem and I am lazy to interact
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what should a fresh 70, just finished campaign character do

i took a minibreak after the campaign and i have the warplan "quest" next.

i dont really care about lvl 90000 paragon, but i wanna experience "end game" and at least push until i dont wanna push anymore. also unlock some of the legendary weapon/armor cosmetics i still dont have

and store smoe favor tokens too (im told this carries over between seasons)
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>>2491375
I don't know but it's pretty goddamn annoying, not that Blizzard is in a rush to fix cosmetic bugs
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>>2492908
>what should a fresh 70, just finished campaign character do
Helltides, nightmare dungeon keys (save any that have the Horadric storageroom or whatever affix until around torment 5), and lair bosses. You'll also end up completing a lot of whispers between all of these. Around t3/t4 start doing pit runs regularly and level your shit.
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Fuck I wanna get new expac, but poe2 release is next week. Sucks
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>>2493056
Okay I played a little and got to Torment 2

My gear are still all 850 except for the one piece of 900 Ancestral from turning in at the tree. Is this just how you upgrade basically? Just more turn ins at the tree? When can I expect 900+ gear to drop normally
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>>2493345 (Me)
Also I feel like my homebrew hammerdin sucks
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didnt want to have to copy/paste a build from the net, but my barb has hit a brick wall at torment 6. i obliterate packs but i do basically zero damage to bosses and die instantly to boss abilities.
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>>2493345
you wont see much 900 gear drop until like t8
yea thats how you gear up, also turn in the Obols at the curiosities vendor to find stuff

dont forget about your mercenaries, you can barter with one of them to buy different equipment and lootboxes
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minion barb MOGS ww barb so hard. holy shit
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>>2493849
Tried it and I couldn't see shit with ancients popping left and right, went back to ww
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>>2493849
>trying to bait people into getting carpal tunnel
haha
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>>2493946
bro you play ARPGs, your wrists are already fucked
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Ran into my first wall. Instantly one shotted by the big wave.
Are other lair bosses easier? I just got an ancestral 2h from world boss, maybe this will be easier now.
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>>2494092
lilith is just OP. some of the others like varshan are a joke
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>>2494092
Echo of Lilith exists solely for challenges. Her fight is full of bullshit 1-shots, and to reinforce this she has both a dropshit AND incredibly small loot table for drops. If you need to gear up do literally any other lair or greater lair boss.
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>Mephisto's daughter is Lilith
>Diablo's daughter is Leah
So who's Baal's daughter?
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>>2494262
Moe
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>>2492908
warplans are a great way to guide you through the endgame because they have you do a bit of everything
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>>2494262
Leeroy
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>>2494262
baal is gay as fuck have you played diablo 2
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>>2494422
Leah was "natural" and Lilith was basically lab-grown so Baal could just adopt.
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>>2494262
>lord of destruction procreating
nope
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>>2494116
>>2494256
Oh
Why the hell is it a priority quest pointing you there after you enter Torment then
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>>2495100
They did it to make you waste your time, as a joke
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>>2495100
its a vestige of the old endgame that blizzard didnt take out of the game for some reason
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how do you figure out how to unbrick your dogshit homebrew build? i hit T8 and im starting to get oneshot by random exploding rare packs
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>>2495264
>he doesn't know
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do i save lair keys or can i just use them now at lower torment
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What the hell is this? I transfigured these gloves, they got locked, but there's no transfigured stat?
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>>2495907
are you sure it didn't get more stars?
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>>2496097
No it had those 3 to begin withwith
Does transfigure have a chance to do nothing?
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>>2496159
it does something always
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this game sucks without the dlc fuck this shit im not buying it yea im poor fuck you too
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>>2496338
>dlc
You mean the expansion?
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>>2496429
whatever lord of hatred is
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I'm in Torment 5 using items on the left side and not making much progress in the pit that unlocks Torment 6

I also want to switch to Zeal because I'm getting bored of hammerdin now and I think have most of the Aspects needed. But do I use the unique or the much higher item level weapon?
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>>2496608
you should temper crit damage into the weapon, add socket and put in a gem
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>>2496634
which weapon
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>>2496641
The left one for now I suppose. Is the right one zealer meta item? once you farm ancestral version maybe go with that
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>>2496661
you want me to upgrade the hammerdin weapons? i dont really wanna play hammerdin anymore, unless zeal actually is worse.
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>>2496672
my post was about the two handers
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also do people still do citadel
i just found out some transmog im missing are from there
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>>2496678
But the right one is already Ancestral, what did you mean by farm the Ancestral version
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>>2496686
the unique two hander is not ancestral
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>>2496679
you will grind for hundreds of hours for those transmogs, unless they fixed the drop rates of that and didn't tell anyone about it
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I want to buy this sex outfit but I don't want to pay 25 eurobucks. When does it go on for sale? How does this rotation thing work?
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>>2496782
the super discount thing is a "personal" shop, kind like league's if you ever played that
so we have no way of knowing when you'll get it.
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>>2496760
Well I googled around and it seems like people say it's fixed
And that the bset drop is on Torment 4, which I'm pretty comfortable with
The only thing is the fact that it does not have a solo mode and needs a party member....
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Ive read that necro is kinda the slow apm class, any others like it, or perhaps a ranking of the other classes on apm? I dont have the fingers like I used to.
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>>2497167
I've got arthritis and the go to for me when I don't want to click a lot is rogue dance of knives or barbarian whirlwind. Both are super comfy, you just activate a few skills every now and then but mostly left click once and then just move your mouse around. Both builds are pretty strong this season as well so you won't even feel gimped.
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>>2497185
ok cool, thank you
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>>2497185
>rogue
>low apm
Having to click imbuement even 5 seconds sucks ass. It should just be a passive ability
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>>2497387
every*
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>>2497387
You don't have to click it almost ever with dance of knives. You can increase the time it lasts on the shadow one to make it infinite and the poison one almost double the time. Trust me it's absurdly comfy you won't find another build that pushes less buttons.
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Switched to Zeal and made it to Torment 6

This thing is no good anymore right? They nerfed the build?
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>>2497167
>>2497185
play with a controller, it's ultra giga comfy
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>>2497803
oh yeah, it has been so long since ive played an arpg I forgot that was an option. gonna half to see if I have an old dusty plug in one to use.
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>>2497803
ive tried a bit and its so awkward
i need to find some worth doing but piss easy farming thing i can do with a controller to get used to it
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is static blizzard sorc really this brain dead. It hasn’t even been that difficult to prepare the gear for it either. Total Unga Bunga victory
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what class to first go through campaing
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>get Belial one(1) time
>pick Butcher loot
>drops FIVE(5) boots instead of an ancestral red sermon
I think I played more D4 in one day today than I ever did before and it ends in disappointment.
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>>2497708
my dawnfire auradin made it to t10 and then petered out, it just takes too long to kill things
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>>2498971
Fuckers nerfed the shit out of paladins.
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>>2498971
I dont know if I have the will to get to T12.
Never did D4 "end game" until now but so far it's basically "Get the Meta Things + Dont Get 1 Shotted = Congrats you pushed to another Torment"
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Have you farmed your 12 GA items this season?
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>>2499513
Pretty much, but at least you can pick any build that catches your eye on maxroll and go with it. It doesn't even need to be S tier.
I respecced to zealadin and finished the season journey without much hassle so now i will try to make auradin work.
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i have some random shit that you can transmute in the cube for a boss drop. like butcher's or urviar's
obviously you already farmed the shit out of the lair bosses on your existing character, so are you suppose to save this shit for your alts? do they disappear once you get booted back to eternal realm
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How do you get that orange flaming sword with the bright outline?
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>>2499795
It's Doom collab skin
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>>2499850
so its no longer attainable?
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>>2499795
Doom collab event, it's no longer available. It's more red than orange though.
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They removed aspects from dungeons? Gotta pray for drops to unlock that shit?
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these activity tree nodes are so bugged...
>undercity initiative node doesn't change your drop quality
>varshan node, when he spawns, doesn't drop anything
>butcher never spawns in pit
>choron portal in pit takes you someplace useless
>hell's prize chest costs a lot and doesn't give anything better than mystery chest
much less to mention the bugs with nodes stacking if you switch activities in the dungeon...
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is this worth doing
the 3 dungeons were all kind long but it did gave a lot of obols
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>>2500180
They can be pretty lucrative yeah. If you have 3 consecutive nightmare dungeons in your warplan it's a bonus. Astaroth also has his own unique loot pool
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>>2500180
not really
it seems like the only way to get bis gear in this game is to get a random blue or yellow drop with at least two 2*s applicable to your build and hopefully cube them to permanent gear.
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I'm confused about dark citadel
The loot table all seem to be outdated and specify T1-3 or T4 exclusive (great khazra)
Does doing it on T7 or T8 not give you those drops?
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>>2500476
It does, normal set drops up to T3 or so and greater set is T4+ or atleast it was before LoH
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cant get an ancestral red sermon to drop and pit 70(the one that unlocks torment 9) is filtering me

should i just go all in on this instead. dont have all the masterywork mats in the world.
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>>2500603
Do you not have access to the cube? If you do you can upgrade a white ancestral into unique
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>>2500603
grandfather is pretty good out of the box, MW not necessary
just enchant and gem it
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>>2501161
i havent found an ancestral white sword yet
but anyways i went all in on the grandfather and made it to torment 9

but now the torment 10 unlock pit is filtering me now even with the gf
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>>2501286
You can also use a blue/yellow, just remove the affixes in the cube. Obols vendor can be handy to get them too.
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who else losing hope
i havent been counting but I probably spent 400 of these things
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>>2501312
Yeah, I have been on the look out for them.

I'm a little perplexed where I can squeeze out more stats to get into T10. I have done as much tempering, masterworking and socketing as I (reasonably) can on the few decent ancestral pieces I have. I know there's technically a few more thing I can do but I figured that would be the kind of min/maxxing autism that's needed for T12, not to just get your toes into T10...
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>>2501389
i got gem strength transmute! on my pants...
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well at least i've found 66,666 aether anyway
getting close to 200 hrs total season playtime, if i add the 3 characters together FML
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Can't decide which would be better for my Minion Necro.

Also
>Dark citadel is bugged and drops ZERO coins
Bravo blizzard
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>>2501645
Heir
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unwanted uniques are piling up
what to do with them?
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>apparently Clash is the most Pally build
>needs a lot of shit to keep Fortress up almost all the time
I'm tired boss....
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>>2501474
i tempered and masterworked and socketed and cubed my gear and i was able to unlock and consistently clear t10 purely off intuition
i never really played these kinds of games before; i just rerolled affixes so that i had main stat, armor, max life, and my main damage stats or all-ele res
using prisms means i could target shit directly
i didnt even use any uniques because i didnt know where to get the ones for my specific build
i think my paragon board is severely unoptimized as well
if my dumb ass can do it, so can you
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>>2502278
Relax, I'm basically on day 3 of playing post-campaign.
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>>2502355
i mean thats all u gotta do, just find the stats you want for your build and get them on your gear
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>>2490085
Bro you should have masterworked your weapon beforehand. Now you cant masterwork it anymore because of terrible fucking game design. Transfiguring is the final step to your item. Your gem strength could have been 250-300 since it scales with masterworking. Goodluck bro
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>>2500603
how do i craft this?
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I just got this, I heard its pretty good. I play PenShot Rogue so not sure how useful it will be. Is there anything I should do to this before I transfigure it?
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>>2503394
masterwork
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>>2503459
I did it to crit strike damage. Should I get something else?
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>>2503439
>just chase absurdly rare GA? and grind gem fragment
For gearing, yes.
For goals, you either try to finish the end season milestones or clear pit 150. Both are rather nebulous and don't mean anything.
>end game falls flat for me
Same. Sometimes I think Torment 10 or so should open up the option to replay the campaign and try to finish it on a much harder difficulty just to have a bigger sense of finality. But then there's the argument of "well Echo of Mephisto is right there if you want to fight him again." I hate to just compare it to WoW but I feel at least with WoW your "endgame" is way more clearly defined and goes to much greater lengths to give you something to gawk at for whatever your achievements that phase were.
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>>2503027
just play necro bro, it's fun
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>>2503459
What do you mean masterwork?
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Buy an Ad

Game's dead jim
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>>2503439
D3 had leaderboards to chase but it isn't satisfying in D4 for whatever reason.
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>>2503439
That's pretty much how I feel now too.
It was hella fun making major progress every 15 minutes.
Once you start hitting the ceiling of your builds and nothings happening until you get some insane rare drop it's like.....eh

I'm debating if I wanna make a second character to put some of this other gear to use but what am I gonna do? Just run the same stuff? Probably not
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I'm at the point in my build where I just have to try and get a better roll on my currents items, and pray for GOOD talismans and the little middle piece for talismans to drop

It keeps giving me dogshit talismans and I want to kill somebody because of it.
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>>2503926
Hardcore
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>>2504366
i dont know, i like to multi task sometimes
is warlock fun? i need a char to dump some of these farmed up shit on
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Finally beat Lord of Hatred yesterday, this shit fucks.

Surprised how well this shit plays on controller.
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Slapped this thing on and got into Torment X. I think I'm ready for something new now.
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easiest build to beat (and to build) echo of mephisto before season end?
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>>2504745
im using this on my rogue as a charm. its pretty good and pretty rough.

i got the rogue imprint that autoheals me to full while in stealth and since im in stealth all the time it just caps me up. without my autoheal, i probably wouldnt be using this unique
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I want to make a druid now....
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>>2503919
i think the d3 leaderboards were a little more fun because they were separated by the set armors. in d4, the entire 1,000 list is full of people all doing the same thing. but other interesting builds aren't ranked against each other, even if they aren't quite as fast.
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a mythic seal FINALLY dropped for me: paragon 176 and from a world boss of all places. the only things left are run 3 more NMD and craft a flawless horadric gem (i'm close), and then i'll be 100%
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Played way too much D4 this long weekend. Got into T10 on the only char I've done end game with and then brought up a Barb into T8

I know I havent put in the WERK for the Barb yet after just one afternoon of throwing leftover gear at it but people have said so much about how easy this class is that I'm now surprised it kept dying in the T9 Pit...
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>>2505081
*paragon 276 i meant
having a flawless horadric gem in weapon is a big power boost bros. grind that seer's reach dungeon for a couple of hours, it's worth it
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What's the best way to level a fresh seasonal character?
I've done the LoH campaign and unlocked the skip
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This season is over at the end of June.
In 30 days your characters will be useless and you have to start all over again.

What the fuck is the point?
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>>2508089
give your new character some whisper caches, or get someone to plvl you in pits
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>>2508104
To have fun progression with new seasonal mechanics. You can stay on eternal if you want.
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100%ed season journey at 277 paragon. no secret title verified. cow level 100% grinded. fishing is 100% caught (no goblin pet caught). all skovos sidequests done. missing new HC achievements and a couple new skovos achievements. just feel done with playing.
warplans need some work. if my glyphs are all lvl 130, why are pits still in my warplans, i don't want to do them. putting things in the pits to give you 50k gold or a merchant that sells 0GA items for artificers stones isn't making it enticing enough to do. it's 1 minute that i would rather be spending elsewhere. maybe they should add an activity tree node letting you pay in artificers stones or choron's tears to skip a pit but say you did it. butcher never spawned in.
mythic seal is garbage. for the specific affixes on it that you need for your build, you'd need more than just 1 to drop to have the chances to get something useable. legendary seals only giving you starter-set affixes and not class-set affixes needs to be fixed.
loot filter is a blessing. the amount of nonancestral crap that i filter out constantly on t12 is mindboggling. i couldn't imagine playing without a loot filter.
flawless horadric gems are STRONG. it's a nice retard casuals filter concept, but i guess they could RMT buy them if they really felt like it. duping is apparently still going strong, and let's be real: the RMT probably kicksback to blizzard anyway.
endgame loop that's left after 100%ing season journey: mindlessly run seer's reach for gems. run obols escalations to gamble for weapons to gamble for gem strength. leaderboard is stupid pointless since only 3rd party software hackers with their 12GA items are going to be on it. GGs, the season lasted longer than usual!
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>>2508293
Did you get the explore Skovos achievement? I dunno if it's bugged but a lot of people seem to be stuck at 65/67
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>>2508318
noone has that achievement. it's bugged (probably) or attached to some kind of obscure non-sidequest (cause i already 100%ed those) sidequest that takes you up to 2 tiny areas by the skovos world boss in the mountain. if you cursor over the map, those are the only 2 areas that say "undiscovered" in skovos.
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>>2508246
>do the exact same grind all over again with a "new mechanic" that involves picking up 1 other item
>fun
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>>2508469
Maybe this game isn't for you, anon
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>>2508480
You're probably right. I enjoy games where my time investment actually pays off, not where I grind and farm for months and only able to enjoy it for a week before it gets deleted and resets me all over again.
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>>2508604
Nothing gets deleted
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>>2508604
>enjoy it for a week
how do you "enjoy" your maxed out characters anon? griding to make number go up IS the game, it's the entire genre
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>>2508655
Correct. This entire game is just number go up until blizzard forces your number to go back to 0.
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>>2508678
Seasons are entirely optional. Just create your characters on the eternal realm.
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>>2508690
>Just create your characters on the eternal realm.
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Mythics don't have random affixes do they?
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>add aspect you want
>tempering to add one stat like max resolve stack or crit damage
>master working to 25
>rng supersize one stat (forgot what this is called)


Can someone explain step by step what ways to improve a piece of gear besides these
How do I go about the prefix thing, am I suppose to do them to an ancestral rare before upgrading to legen
What about uniques, how do you refill stats
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>>2508696
If the very concept of a seasonal realm offends you then there's always Grim Dawn. Otherwise I don't know what to tell you, because the entire point of this specific diablo-like genre is about rerunning the content but with what's supposed to be a fun new build.
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>>2508785
That's it. That's the endgame. 99% of Uniques are completely worthless even if theyre for your build. Your only option is to find a blue or yellow drop with 2+ greater affixes (* attributes) and pray the RNG helps when transfiguring in the cube.
>>2508822
Seasonal games are complete jewish cancer. It's a lazy and boring design that gets low IQ gamers to keep repeating the same slop over and over instead of inventing longterm rewards for time invested. I'm old enough to remember enjoying MMOs and AARPGs before "seasonal" was ever a thing.
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>>2508863
People love the seasons though. Even community made mods with their private servers have seasons, people want them.
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>>2508822
Season wasn’t a thing when d2 launched
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>>2508962
>that game that continually gets a lower player count every month love it
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>>2509019
People move between games. The seasonal arpg as a genre is bigger than ever.
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>>2508246
Ay yo hold up. Why does every character need to reset when "new seasonal mechanics" are introduced? Why cant we just build on our existing characters on the new shit coming out?
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>>2509039
>people move between games
Aka, 'our design philosophy is bad and we wont change it'
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>>2509051
dark pattern
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>>2508863
>Seasonal games are complete jewish cancer. It's a lazy and boring design that gets low IQ gamers to keep repeating the same slop over and over instead of inventing longterm rewards for time invested. I'm old enough to remember enjoying MMOs and AARPGs before "seasonal" was ever a thing.
ARPGs? Like what, D1 and D2? I guess if you liked running the same boss for 25 years you could go play D2 again?
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>>2508863
>to keep repeating the same slop over and over
Again, that's the point of the genre, with the added emphasis that randomized loot, enemies, and environments altogether are supposed to give you a different experience every time. If you are truly a fellow unc I'm sure you can then remember David Brevik's thoughts on the matter when he pitched the game in the first place.
I'm not saying that "seasons=good", but that seasons aren't at all antithetical to the genre. By design you are supposed to beat final boss, think it was fun, and try it again while experiencing it differently. The random elements provide that different experience via subtle means while (modern) seasons are a jackhammer that forces the issue through whatever mechanic they introduce. And if that style offends you, and you DON'T want to play the optional version which avoids them (eternal realms), then the only thing I can suggest is something else. It's up to you to take it or leave it because I guarantee seasons aren't leaving PoE or Diablo, and they are easily the big two series of the genre.
>>2508963
I didn't want to just say "then gb2diablo2 faggot" because he's probably already played it (same with D1) and new versions do have seasons. I'm also suggesting Grim Dawn because it's a fantastic game, it's getting another expansion this year, has a sequel planned, and has no seasonal wipes or mechanics. It even has metaprogression he's asking for with "...longterm rewards for time invested."
But besides GD it's hard to think of anything else. Tower of Kalemonvo I guess? That's fun if you really like D1 but don't want to replay D1.
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To be honest, the big reveal that Lilith's plan was to use a magical macguffin knife to end the Eternal Conflict is rather frustrating.
It just feels strange that a demon, even if she is the daughter of one of the primes, can just sort of whip up an artifact that can more or less permanently destroy prime evils and presumably archangels as well. It feels cheap, like it disobeys the rules of the setting.
It also feels lazy that it's just a knife made from a bone.
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What I'd do is let plays revisit seasons whenever and completing a season gives a bonus to your characters accountwide in other seasons, and clicking any button meant to take you to a leaderboard kills you irl instantly.
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>>2510522
But she didnt end the eternal conflict, Baal and Diablo are still around
And if she can be summoned back frmo the Void, so can Meph one day
It just puts a very long pause, at least from the perspective of humans, on Meph coming back
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>>2510630
All of your criticisms of the efficacy of her plan are irrelevant because your criticisms are levied at the outcome of something that WASN'T her plan.
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>>2510522
All she wanted to do was usurp her old man and yeah the dagger thing was retarded
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>>2510636
I didnt criticize her plan
I think she and (You) made the best out of what they had at the start of LoH.
In fact, unlike most of you third worlders who get extremely butthurt at female characters being redeemed, I'm fine with her making the sacrifice to give you a shot to banish Meph since she's the Mother of Sanctuary after all.
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>>2510522
>To be honest, the big reveal that Lilith's plan was to use a magical macguffin knife to end the Eternal Conflict is rather frustrating.
Her plan was to eat her dad then 2v1 Diablo and Baal somehow. All while hoping the angels do nothing, but at least that part seems solid as the high heavens do jack shit in the lore post Diablo fucking 1.
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>>2510642
Even if the Prime Evils are defeated they will return... unless banished to "the Void" which exists, apparently, but be careful, if someone performs a very specific ritual involving three people dying in a location that has nothing to do with the imprisoned person, which must be performed at a location that has nothing to do with them and isn't even remotely near where the imprisoning happened, anyway here are instructions Elias for how to do it, I guess Inarius wrote them down or something. You have quite a treasure there in that bone knife, it can banish anything to the Void if stabbed into them, you see when a demon removes a part of themself to make a knife, that knife has the power to banish anything to the Void, or at least that's what happens when Lilith makes a bone knife, but it makes her permanently weaker though still strong enough to rip off Inarius's wings so by permanently weaker I mean like 5% weaker or something. Anyway the knife should work on a Prime Evil if you ever need it since despite Lilith knowing how and why to make this, her own father Mephisto has no idea whatsoever what it does and harbors zero suspicion that it does anything despite knowing intimately who created it and what she's capable of. And she was a good friend.
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>>2510658
>And she was a good friend.
Should've used Tyrael.jpg, would've been perfect then.
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On the topic of D4 lore: who the fuck is Vashan and why is he hiding in the tree? If he came up during a questline in the basegame I managed to completely forget about him.
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>>2510880
i believe he played a role in a seasonal questline and afterwards he was added as a lair boss, same with Grigoire
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>>2510880
d4 lore: varshan was in the season with the malignant tunnels which rod fergusson likened to his colonoscopy on the developer livestream
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So did Mephisto corrupting the Pools of Creation has any consequences whatsoever?
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Who here has killed Mephisto echoing Torment 10?

What did you use? Was it a close, “proper” fight or were you already overpowered by then walked all over him? How much investment was on that character? Did you min/max with every upgrade path available or were you kind half geared with just the essentials to make your build work?
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>>2511493
It opened a way for destruction and terror
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>>2511493
The Pools of MacGuffin were sunk beneath the the waters and rubble of Fuhgeddaboudit.
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>>2511493
You'll have to wait till the first expansion for Diablo V.
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>>2511713
i killed him t10 solo before min/maxing my build. was probably/maybe not even paragon 200. not using any infinite-damage bugs at all. it was a "proper" fight in that i had to dodge attacks and learn his phases while cutting down his health bar. it took a couple tries, but it was fun when i succeeded.
now my paragon is over 275, min/maxed build, flawless horadric, and yeah it's a fast and ez fight.
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so I casually played this game over the past 2 weekends and noticed "resolve" and the damage/defense scaling that comes with it. my character has 58 resolve stacks and each stack give 4% raw damage reduction per resolve capped at 85%. so my guess is any build that cant utilize this mechanic is pretty much useless because how also are you supposed to get 6x more ehp from a single aspect? are the devs incompetent or whats the deal here? it also gives me 116% more damage on top of that lol
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>>2512106
You played casually but masterworked all your shit to get (almost) the max amount of +resolve through rng?
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>>2512106
Yeah pretty much every class that can resolve stack is doing it. It's definitely getting nerfed next season
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the map still isn't complete after today's update. what's the deal.
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took a few days off why did I get slammed with a 30g download?
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>>2512199
yes I also played to paragon 250 on hc. the thing is the game is VERY VERY casual like almost every blizzard ip so yeah.
>>2512244
also noticed the retarded gem strength corruption and the new damage "buckets". I just dont understand the devs. they try to combat gigantic damage numbers but introduce exponential damage scaling.
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>>2511713
i joined a carry party
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would anyone be down to trade some runes? would do 2:1 for legendary runes. I need 4 Jah
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>>2512905
i would trade you runes for grand emeralds tho
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>>2512931
are you out of your mind
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>>2512959
i'm not the one that needs jah runes, and unless you're also doing a dex class, you don't need emeralds either
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>>2512973
i just started playing about 2 weeks ago and this is all i have
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>>2512994
dawww cute, you must be doing sorc
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>>2512905
i'd love to get some runes to craft this eye of siegelide whatever thing that apparently every barb runs

but ill prob see how far this minion barb can take me first
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>>2512998
teehee maybee C:
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>>2513020
are you in <FREN> clan? otherwise post battletag. i'll drop you the runes, lil n00b sorc
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>>2513001
melted heart of selig? yeah i got vex runes too, post btag
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>>2513072
im not, but i would love to be if there was a slot open. ive been doing nothing but playing this game lool

chaseth#1408
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>>2512440
The resolve stack issue has come up before so no clue why they allowed it to get so out of hand
What's likely is that no one in QA played Resolve stack build or tested tempering it as that's what's bugged out
The non-bugged limit should be 4 GA Temper and 5 GA with the masterwork GA hit, not the current 12 which seems to be applying the old 1.5x GA stat instead of the current 1.25x
No other temper does this in my experience so it was likely completely untested

These builds and Glynns Anvil aspect will likely still be viable next season after the temper levels are fixed, but not as crazy as it currently is
By comparison, Ferocity has a hard cap of 15 and there's no bugs related to it, so those builds got dunked on
Druid is basically almost all Werebear forms due to Resolve stacking and a ring that gives 13%x damage per stack
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>>2513142
welcome to the clan!
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>>2513374
Stay awhile and listen!
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>increase your damage up to 50% based on how much primary resource you have
>increase your damage by 50% when you use ult


i know i can always just follow a guide blindly but how do people determine which one to use
right now i can take advantage of either since im doing that meme minion barb where your throw ability counts as an ult to reduce CD and theres nothing costing fury besides one of the shouts so im nearly almost at max resource, but which one? there's something about you want as many diffferent "types" of damgae increase as possible okay but still, which??
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>clear pit 150 because of class bugs
>farm the hell out of it
the majority of fun out of this game is exploiting bugs. fixing it means less fun in this game
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>literally adds nothing new
wow its fucking nothing.jpg
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>>2513988 (Me)
went to fight duriel and this bitch has so much hp in now i fucking zoned out at 25% hp left and got eaten
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>>2513988
It adds bragging rights. if you are able to farm in torment 12 you are in the 99.999% percentile of players.
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>>2513988
technically XI and XII have better droprates, after all, the torment I description says that each level of torment increases loot drops
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I just got to torment 10, and i already have some incredible bases for my end game items, but i am way too scared to improve on them at all. i really dont want to brick certain items.
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>>2514248
the only way to brick an item is by doing transfiguring, but the meta that poopsockers came up with involves getting 9001 ancestral items and churning them through the cube until you get +gem strength% as an affix while keeping it modifiable
it's two different 5% rolls
otherwise just transfigure your mythic unique gear after you temper and masterwork and socket them and you'll be fine for most stuff since it's impossible to mess those up, the worst thing that can happen is getting a low roll
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>>2514219
>technically XI and XII have better drop rates

It's such a miniscule difference that it's actually more efficient to just farm T10
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>>2515009
that sounds kind of tedious to play desu. i just want to spin and win
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qrd on spiritborn?
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>>2514188
Not sure bragging rights is a thing when the classes are so different balance wise

I got extremely lucky with two back to back unique charms that barely allowed my Zealdin to reach 10 while my Mininion Barb just memed its way into 11 with random shit on
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>>2515772
evade counterswarm or whatever is called is fun. movement speed is usually capped around 200% and in some cases 300% but since you are using evade to move around it feels more like 500+%. You pretty much hold evade/rake and out clear the entire screen. Also super tanky thanks to resolve stacking. I can easily speedfarm 120 pits and I am sure with the right weapon I could do 130.
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>>2513374
What is an easy D1 build? I just want to play through the game really to experience it.
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>>2514248
>get your BiS
>never touch it until you get a new BiS
>reassess once you get a new BiS
never EVER trash your best item unless you have an alternative youre trying to push to a higher limit

Also the new affix allocations for uniques is so fucking cancer considering how relatively few ancestral uniques drop compared to 1-2 seasons ago
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>>2513819
its kind of more obvious depending on your build
>i use red sermon as paladin
so i never use my core resource since im 100% cooldowns and HP costs
>there are shoe and ult options for spiritborn that have a 10 second cooldown on the ult
and then youll have 100% uptime

ask yourself which has more uptime
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>>2516103
The thing thats tripping me up is the "you want multiple sources of damage" that I've heard

How do I know if one may be better than the other because its considered a different type while the other one overlaps with another source
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>>2516143
whats your build?
last season i cleared the hardest bosses with
>paladin
>spiritborn
>sorceror
>barbar
and i can safely say only spiritborn and barbar had "multiple sources of damage"
both seasons ive been doing nothing but pumping 13-26000% crit damage
and Apart from a few tweaks Im hoping i can finish the season by beating mephisto this week
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>>2516172
i should say, i only went balls to the wall on crit with zealot
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>>2516396
Meh I think the problem with paragon boards is theyre fluidly iterateable
Idk about others but
>Prioritize orange nodes/1+4 boards
>Then reaching cheap but effective damage synergy gold nodes
And then around p200
>Hopefully you've unlocked a bunch of insert nodes
>Minmax each one
And I guess shorter pathways end up being suboptimal if they run into other gold nodes on the way
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>>2515927
i guess ill give it a shot, never tried it since I dont like aztec compared to monk aesthetics
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>reroll greater affix a few times
>out of gold
Oh...........................shit
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>>2516025
The ez d1 build is "pick wizard"
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How do non-meltedheart ww barbs stay alive? Do they have some infinite barrier/fortify generator?
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is there going to be another expansion or no?
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I haven't been able to play all week due to packet loss, waiting for a new router to come in Friday. My Rogue is in T8 running Dance of Knives, I'm way behind on paragon and glyphs though, think my glyphs are all around 30ish and my paragon is 140ish.
Is Dance of Knives capable of clearing this season fairly easily if I just grind out some paragon+glyphs? Or am I going to really need to milk affixes and stuff to get it there?
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>>2517273
Probably but who knows for sure.
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>>2517366
isnt this thing set up perfectly for more expansions
theres no way they repeat d2 and d3 of justhaving one epxnsion each
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>>2517273
it will, they spent too much time and money building the base game so they're going to squeeze as much out of it as they can while working on 5 in the background
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>>2517288
i 100%ed season on DoK rogue. it's easy, fun, strong.
i followed m1py on mobalytics "spellbound IS" build (idk if he's changed it since weeks ago) but without the bugged spellbound talisman set --use the sightless set, it's a lot stronger. and then take out the points in the extra imbuements and put them elsewhere. screw combo points and i didn't do the nades either for his "main build" or whatever, distance is fine. don't wear tyrael's and use a legendary chest with glynn's anvil: then give yourself a point under concealment for resolve. for bosses: make a separate legendary dagger with crushing aspect on it and swap that for the purple sword; also for bosses, switch out cowl of the nameless charm for rustbitten dirk charm.
anyway should be easy enough to run pits until your glyphs are 100--don't sleep on glyph levels. GLHF
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>>2517391
it's also set up perfectly for mtx --how many people do you see in town and at WB with the doom or wow armor + weapons cosmetics on? as long as d4 is bringing in money, i think they'll keep it going.
>>2517432
but also this, i think someone at blizz has even said "yes there will be a d5 in the future" or something to that effect
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>>2517288
yeah i got the game off humble bundle and bought the expac and did dance of knives ice rogue and cleared everything just fine
i didnt even look up guides or anything i just stacked a bunch of stuff together and it worked
then after i felt hard walled i looked up some guides and tweaked things a bit to be more optimal but like the other anon said, i didnt bother w/ combo points, personally i did inner sight, that shit is dope
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>>2517607
I am running pretty much the exact DoK sightless build that maxroll recommends under midgame atm, the only thing is I have not yet found a crushing aspect some-fucking-how. It's very similar to the mobalytics one you mentioned though, using sightless, concealment, shrouded gift, glynn's anvil, etc. I steamroll t8 but Lilith is giving me trouble, I think glyphs and paragon levels would push me just over the edge to handle her, thanks for the advice.
Mostly was just anxious because I hear the jump from t8 to t10 is enormous and it's not clear to me how I can easily enhance my build other than glyphs+paragon, since optimizing the affixes on gear is confusing and overwhelming to me as a new player.
Just fucking annoying, feel like I could have gotten a lot done if my router didn't crap out on me.
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>>2517391
It is but Blizzard likes to make Diablo games because they make an absolute shit-ton of money on release. Even moreso on what >>2517612 was saying they also mentioned the wait for D5 won't be as long as the wait between D3 and D4. Also some Diablo dev went to a AAA gaming conference and said it takes anywhere from 5 to 7 years to make a AAA game unless they're having issues.
So if D5 went into production right after D4 it has about 2-4 years left. That said, I doubt that's the case because we know D4 only went into production sometime after D3's first expansion. Given that we're already on expansion #2 and it seems to have done well I think D4 has at least 2 more expansions in it, possibly 3. If we get an announcement at blizzcon this year then we are definitely closer to 3. Expansion sales aren't as great as new game release sales but it's a hell of a lot cheaper and quicker to make them.
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>>2517273
Last year Rod talked about having a 10 year roadmap
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>>2518286
A little more than a month left in the current one.
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>>2517686
well if you're using a bunch of rings with max life and life on hit affixes, and your weapons have like physical damage multipliers on them, you're not going to get very far. as far as that goes, yeah you kinda DO need to get the right stats on your gear. you definitely don't need greater affixes of the stats at all --but you need to have the right affixes on.
it's do-able with the cube, but you have to do it right. if you get a GA stat on a blue or yellow that you want to keep, "enchant" it at the occultist but don't replace it to anything/cancel it out. then it locks it in, so you can remove all the other garbage stats in the cube and add the stats you want (and remove the crappy ones it gives you and try to add the stats you want in, repeat ad nauseum) and eventually get all the things you want on the item in the cube (n.b. it will NOT roll "+ all skills" in the cube)
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>>2518286
Sanctuary sitdown today so they'll probs give a date for the PTR and some other info. Season ends on July 20th so that's when the new season will start
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>>2476300
I kinda want to play this, but the fact that there have been 13 seasons of content that cannot be earned anymore pisses me off to no end, and thus I shan't purchase the videogame.
Fucking Blizzard.
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>>2518512
Correction, every site is saying July 20th but ingame it shows 33 days left, which makes it June 30th
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>>2518516
i wouldn't let it bother you too much: they will probably do with d4 like they did with d3, and when the game is about to roll over to the next diablo iteration, they will give out the old season rewards extra in the season journey. i'm guessing anyway, it's low hanging fruit.
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>>2518512
post link!
>>2518525
hmm.. are they going to start doing a 1-month gap between seasons? or maybe just all the other sites have it wrong i guess
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S14 PTR notes:
https://news.blizzard.com/en-gb/article/24259077/the-3-1-ptr-what-you-need-to-know
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>>2518371
Didn't know you could do this, I thought you basically had to just find an item that had good stats already.
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>>2518942
>gloves with + to DoK KEEP
>amulet with + to all skills KEEP
>weapon with GA on DoT or poison KEEP
>dagger/sword with GA on weapon damage KEEP
>roll weapon damage off your bow cause you don't use it, much better rolling that to dex or max life and then having the DoT and poison damage affixes
and then yeah you do need a fair amount of the offensive cube mats to keep rerolling after you remove the crappy stats that it tries to give you. it takes some getting used to, and it takes some quality cube time to get what you want. but then you just enchant the aspect on it, socket, and you're good to go! i think i used the "avoid best and worst transfigures" cube mat on my original gear, but now i don't use it and see what i get (indestructible a lot of times kek)
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>>2518867
>War plan levels still not account wide
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>>2518867
>Obols are now capped at 25,000.

>more caps
FUCK you blizzard
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>>2519347
?
Obols were capped at 2.5k before
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>>2519399
REMOVE ALL CAPS RIGHT NOW
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>>2519405
>Be me
>Blizzard Employee
>Have caps on stupid shit
>*Suck in breath through teeth*
>Chhhhhhyeah we can't do that because um, well you know, we want our players to spend this currency optimally instead of hoarding it because like, it engages the players more directly... You know?
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>>2519411
>do random dungeon
>obols drop
>notice they stay on the ground
>"oh for fuck's sake"
>tp to the nearest town
>dump all 2500 obols on the vendor
>don't get a single good item
>TP back to the dungeon to pick up the obols you left
A riveting experience that we all love, thank you Blizzard!
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>>2519347
Just make that shit unlimited cap it at 99999
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>Mythics are now getting random stats

Wtf is Blizzard thinking. We already hate random stats on uniques. Why ad it to Mythics. Now they will be pretty much junk.
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why does this sound so threatening and menacing...?
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>>2519808
Well, they did start capping materials. Who knows what will follow?
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>>2519808
They're teasing Baal already
Who's even worse than Mephisto because he's a prime evil but also gay
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>>2519822
>>2519847
ugh. have you guys *read* the patch notes?? there's some annoying stuff in there...
>glynn's anvil capped at 40%
>endurant faith nerf
>mythics getting nerfed
>DoK nerf
idk read through it for your class, but i don't have a good impression
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also nobody mentioning how next season is a rehash blue/purple version of the giant turtle season that we had to walk around and kill it and then go in portal afterwards? ehhhhhhhhh
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>>2518516
I don't know man, I think 90% of seasonal cosmetics looks incredibly gaudy outside of the portals. The last 3 sets might as well be named "Regalia of the Destiny NPC."
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I guess the expansion being so good was really a fluke. Here they go destroying the game again and all the goodwill. Also I laugh at that random dance of knives Nerf as if that build was dominating everything. Give me a break.
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>In Season 14, every Unique can be Mythic. Strap in, folks.
>Mythic, instead of being an item Rarity, is now a modifiable Item Quality. You’ll have the ability to make any Unique item into a game-altering Mythic through Item Quality modifiers.
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>>2520004
I feel it's similar to UI "designers". They need to change already existing designs to justify their position. It could be the same thing here. Maybe they have some metrics that measure how much effort they put into improving the game, problem is when there's nothing to improve and they are creatively bankrupt (most of the time) then they gotta break something only to later miraculously save it in a patch or two down the line.
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Grim Yawn sisters... Wake up... We're finally coming home... July 23rd...!!!
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>>2520122
Fucking finally, only took 2 years or so
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>put on permanent zerg amulet
>easily steamroll through pit 100
>pit boss spawns right in front of a bunch elites that literally spawn 20 differnet shit on the ground
>boss also spawns more shit on the ground
Fuck you
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>>2520107
This is what it feels like. Creating more friction out of nowhere.
Removing set stats from mythics then making us fish for them in the cube is peak tedium for no reason. Adding RNG layers when chasing greater affixes is already enough RNG layers. Removing, then adding back in an endless loop has been the entire life Diablo 4 development.
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i switched from ancient spam to non-undying ww barb and it feels so comfy
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3.1 ptr balance changes thoughts -

Paladin
Judicator Oath good now
Shield Charge changes ok but does that skill even have a unique? With these changes not even sure if it'll be as good as shield bash
Heaven's Fury is now an ultimate with a 15 second cooldown? wtf?
Bunch of buffs to Paladin uniques but none of them blessed hammer

Spiritborn
No changes AT ALL to ANY jaguar skills or equipment? what in the fuck
I don't care about evade/rushing claw nerf, that shit was weird and felt weird to play

Sorcerer
get nerfed lightning pussies

Necro
I don't understand how nobody uses something like Bone Spear for an entire season and it just gets zero changes. Nothing at all. See you next season. Eat shit non Bone Spirit players.

Warlock
No mention of visual effects getting cleared up?

Talismans/set charms
Seems like alot of really small changes, no set got a massive change. Alot of 175% dmg buffs kicked up to 200% Only the Druid storm set got a nice damage increase.
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>The old Mythic Uniques, what we’re calling the Iconic Mythics, those CAN NOT be modified in the cube. New Mythic Uniques and Regular Uniques, can be modified in the cube with chaotic and focused reroll.
So do "Iconic Mythics" have randomized affixes now or will they still be the same every time?
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I made it....
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>everything you're doing right now will be deleted in 3 weeks
How does that make you feel?
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>>2521312
I got 1k hours in PoE
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>>2521312
character resets being normalized are the only good thing to come from arpgs
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>>2521312
it's okay, i had fun with my rogue and i saved caches and instantly leveled an alt to 70 but i didnt really want to keep playing after that
starting fresh with a new character each season seems to be the way to go
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>>2520794
What Jaguar skill changes did we need bro? They feel fine to me except a few of the switched main hall upgrades being ass across the board and the Harmony of Ebewaka bug. imagine you took the Jaguar upgrade on Rock Splitter or Eagle on Thrash, and use Ebewaka, the original spirit of that skill, Gorilla and Jaguar respectively, will not add the 30%x damage for being a tag via Main OR Secondary hall bonus.

So that's a net buff. Rezokas set being hard to stack sucks balls as well as the buff dropping off so fast
Big buffs to Core and Basic skill builds via the Ebewaka fix and changes to Kepeleke and Sepazontec.
We feasting brother man.
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>>2518537
>>2519971
Ok, is there transmog like in D3? What do I need to buy?
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>>2520794
Where is the class balance section in PTR patch notes? I can't seem to find it there.
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>>2521947
Tiny little arrow at the very bottom, you can barely see it, it opens up the rest of the page. I had the same problem
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>>2520929
Only one guaranteed stat, rest will be random
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>>2521941
yeah you salvage gear that you find, and it all becomes transmogrifiable like d3. there is a wardrobe icon when you open your inventory, so you can change your look whereever you are, or you can find an interactable wardrobe in a bedroom in town and change your look there. it doesn't cost gold to change your look, and it doesn't cost gold to recolor your garb (unlike d3).

sharki, i accepted you into clan, so you just have to hit N to accept back. you wanted the runes? or a moo?
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where are the last 2 areas of skovos??
i'm thinking: after the phix quest, you can talk to her 3 times, and she's always kind of pointing at a demon statue each time, with her right next to one at the wall of wishes area. if you jump down that one path, there is a demon statue there. is it like the original base game secret quest where you have to emote at 3 statues to unlock the hidden title? do you have to emote something at the statues to unlock a path near WB area that says "undiscovered"
feel like i'm turning into a schizo trying to figure out how to get the last undiscovered areas...
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is it possible to actually "brick" something with transfiguration? like is there actually a bad result possible? the cube item says it removes the best but also "riskiest" results
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>>2518537
>>2519971
>>2518537
>>2522769
Ok which edition do I need to buy to get the game plus all the expansions? I don't care about the fucking cosmetics and shit from the gigajew editions.
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>>2523023
uh idk doesn't the latest expansion come with everything included?
i paid for all the preorder gigajew editions these past 3 years, so you're definitely saving a couple hundred more USD compared to what i paid lol
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>>2523447
Fair enough.
Can I realistically play this game without ever touching the seasonal "realm" and the battle passes? I dislike Path of Exile for this reason, i don't like redoing my characters.
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>tried to gear two characters
>realize i should have just finished one of them properly
AHHHHHHHHH
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>>2523023
>Ok which edition do I need to buy to get the game plus all the expansions
Base game plus base expansion, you don't need to buy the fancy version of anything.
>>2523561
>Can I realistically play this game without ever touching the seasonal "realm" and the battle passes?
Yes. Pick Eternal realm on character creation and ignore everything about the coins, cosmetics, etc.
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Any chance someone feels like tossing a stamina potion to a fellow anon?
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>>2523729
yeah i got an extra stamina potion. when are you going to be on?
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>>2522991
it can replace one of your affixes with a "totally new and random" affix i.e. useless affix --that's probably the absolute worst result
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>>2523823
Just got one from a chill stranger, thanks anyway anon
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Does anyone even play on the Eternal Realm?
I feel like the Seasonal one is dead enough as is. I barely see anybody while playing T10 and T12, only in Temis and that's it.
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>new expansion is a massive success
>everyone likes diablo now
>upcoming 30th anniversary is a wet fart
>season 14 revealed to be a nerf fest with unfun reused content
>stuff like account wide war table levels thats everyone screaming for is not even planned
Why is blizzard allergic to success?
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>>2524043
I've been finking about it for awhile now, my conclusion is that Blizzard is ran by idiots.
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>make WW barb
>run out of fury
>cant generate
>any small amount i generate from taking hits is drained by ramaladin whtaever one hander

.......
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>>2524043
the team that does seasonal stuff are unironic retards
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I miss when a team of 8 white guys coded Diablo 1 and made it a huge success. Now you have like 12,000 people working on D4 that's 99% women and sóyboys and it's a hot potato miserable failure
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>>2524232
i miss when 8 people could go join a diablo game....what madness fun that was
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how do you discover the last 2 skovos areas???
>devs don't mention it on livestream
>devs don't post anything about it
>isn't mentioned as a bug in patch notes anywhere
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I can reliably get to Meph phase 2 but something always fucking touches me in p2 and I'm dead despite spamming Fortify/Potions.....and having to watch the stupid cutscene is so annoying
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Do D4 players have more sex than other ARPG players?
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>>2525286
i play the last epoch campaign whenever i need help falling asleep
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>>2525346
Last Epoch it is so I can put 'em to sleep and assert dominance.
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>>2525351
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>>2523561
>i don't like redoing my characters
well i hate to break it to you, but they are constantly doing updates that affect the entire game, even eternal realm. every few seasons they rework leveling or item power levels, and then all of your treasured stuff in eternal realm becomes greyed out and "legacy only" unmodifiable. so you're going to have to redo your character eventually anyway.
nobody really plays d4 on eternal realm...
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kinda embarrassed to ask but what the heck do debtors do? i see them appear and they just die and drop nothing
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>>2525626
they used to drop maligma balls to open the varshan chests, but now they drop nothing
thanks blizz!
yeah just ignore them and move on
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>>2525346
>last sleepoch
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>>2525367
What the fuck does that even mean? Why would they do that?
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>got a decent weapon
>socket it
>temper it
>masterwork it
>fuck it lets transfig
>life on hit
Fucking stupid.....but then I realized I forgot to change aspect so fuck me either way FUCK
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>>2526036
>then I realized I forgot to change aspect
been there bro
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Picked this up in the sale and I'm stuck on unlocking Torment 1. I've beaten the Pit at Tier 10, it's given me a feature quest "Echo of the Blessed Mother" telling me to go back to the starter town and do a dungeon. But there it says I need to change my Difficulty to Torment 1, but that says I need to unlock the Artificers Tier and beat Tier 10, but that's how I got the quest in the first place?

What am I overlooking here?
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is the game going on sale next week for the anniversary?
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Why the hell character rebirth still isnt in the game?
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>>2526055
go change the difficulty level mate
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>>2526055
Yeah it's worded poorly.
Go to Cerrigar, find a thing on the map called "The Pit" in town, start a run of it on the highest number you can. You unlock higher tiers of Torment by beating higher levels of The Pit and The Pit itself is used for leveling up Glyphs. If you're unfamiliar with Glyphs, they're things you stick in empty Paragon board spaces.
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>>2526055
Also see this comment chain >>2494092 in regards to "Echo of the Blessed Mother"
tl;dr ignore it
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>>2526036
Transfiguration is rarely ever worth it
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>>2526824
I cant reliably farm Pit 110, where else am I gonna get that last bit of boost from
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>>2526988 (Me)
*besides getting another 50~ paragon points I mean
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the breast in the rice
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Could someone powerlevel my druid?
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I got an extra crux to drop so I figured I'll ask for a carry....
How are these guys tearing through Meph in like 5 seconds, I'm also at a point where my shit is like 95% STEAM'ed with a few Transfig
Admittedly these guys were like 270 or something but what more am I suppose to do besides chasing GAs and Gem Strength....
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>>2519893
>be me
>buy the game at beginning of season
>gravitate to Rogue and DoK on my own cus it's fun
>dying stupidly easy to all of the gay mechanics so I try glynn's anvil on recommendation
>fixes all my problems (still dangerous but I have leeway to make mistakes)
>find out that the thing I just organically gravitated to that doesn't even feel that good is too much for blizz and needs to be ruined
Yeah, I'm not coming back for next season.
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>>2527993
>I got an extra crux to drop
Nice.

(You) and every other Rogue here in /d4g/ has been playing your class wrong. I've been farming Pit 150 to max out all my glyphs in under 3 minutes. I did 2,310,000T damage about 10 minutes ago.

This is the most straight-forward explaination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gChoJ9fdt8c

And then there's everyone else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow77vdBHXR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnbmTs7XF1U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRbWmzzFpGg
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>>2526371
>>2526413
>>2526417
Turns out I just needed to run tier 10 again and then I could change the difficulty. Cheers guys.
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>>2528125
what if i dont want to exploit a bug to do trillions of damage and i just want to make all of my traps into grenades that spawn extra grenades that reset my cooldowns
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>>2528125
Who said I was a rogue
But still the point stands
I don’t know what magical switch I’m suppose to flip to go from doing okay damage to turning the boss into a wet tissue paper
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>>2520794
>No mention of visual effects getting cleared up?
Blizz just needs to add an option for visual clarity. Dunno why they haven't by now. Yea theres the option to make your char more visible, but it only helps if you're behind a pillar or something. Just remove all the spell eye cancer on screen.
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>>2528849
It's because something they already learned from WoW close to a decade ago is something the D4 team has to relearn.
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>>2526241
they're rationing features from d3 to sell expansions, next expansion will have rebirth as a major selling point
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>>2528821
I am playing the easiest build of the xpac (WW selig) and do around 20-50T crits and dont die unless in pit or sometimes mephisto if I dont use endurant faith charm. i'd hit higher but I spent 500 dust and never got gem strength+modifiable on a 2hander

what are you playing
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Well, I did it

Turns out the the difference between doing no damage and doing enough was just having heir of perdition.
First time doing Seasonal stuff, got a lot of hours out of it but having all that progress reset is gonna be weird.
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>>2528075
the patch notes suck, and i don't expect next season to be super fun. but this is just what happens in d4, it'll be fun again at some point. and the streamers will put together something that works so you can get through next season, it's just not going to be WW barb or DoK or that strong sorc build
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>>2531200
I'm just tired of Blizzard's heavy-handedness. I quit WoW during Legion because I was playing a Windwalker monk and I was tired of them repeatedly changing Fists of Fury, it's a series of stuns, now it's one stun, now it's a slow, etc. I just got tired of picking to play something, then having the rug pulled under me.
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>>2531200
>>2531758
Devs must hate being popular with the crowd for making good content and enjoyable builds players like to play. I've looked up all the patch notes, classes included, and forgetting recycled realmwalkers all of this just made me decide not to even touch D4 next season. There's no reason for me to play it, not even transmogs are worth the hassle if I'm subjecting myself to sifting through tons of RNG gear to get the perfect roll on a build that will be gimped because mr. dev thought I had too much time with my WW barb (for example).

This perennial reinventing the wheel has to stop.
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>>2529640
but when the patch drops for next season, all of those mythics in eternal realm are going to be "legacy" unusable gear. and whatever build you did this season is going out the window next season on eternal as well. so yeah it's a restart the next season, but it's really the only way to play d4. eternal players just constantly bashing their heads against the wall
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just purchased, while downloading, what class should I go through the story with?
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>>2532093
Nigger it's YOUR adventure, you pick
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>>2532248
i went with werebear druid which I am sure im going to be told is the wrong choice
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>>2532086
i understand everything moving to Eternal
but what do you mean by legacy gear, as in you literally cant even equip them on a character or alt?
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>>2532429
i just quickly slapped this together, but as an example:
>used to be max lvl at 60 with max paragon. now this char would have to re-level up to the new level 70 in order to slot all the paragon points that were already earned
>the old "not frequently used" runes that they took out of the game with expansion launch insta-changed to whatever random runes in your eternal stash box
>old boss mats, incense, potions, etc not usable any more
>a long time ago that lvl 540 item was max level and the best, but idk the stat squish happened or expanded again or whatever, so it is what it is now. i guess they took the "legacy" tag off of it --hadn't checked eternal for a long time until you asked about it
anyway, eternal is really a character graveyard and museum. i think the only time i ever went back to eternal realm was to use up the stockpiled baneful hearts when i was working on the "kill 666 blood maidens" achievement (tedious). it was a lonely dire weird place.
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>>2532642
oh yeah forgot to mention
>shroud of false death didn't retain its old stats, even though it was obviously acquired before they changed it this season.
so maybe they are moving away from "legacy"ing items and just changing them automatically for you now idk. just avoid eternal realm, anon.
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How many more expansions are they planning?
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>>2532423
Never mind I switched to warlock cause I can hurl demons ass first at people which is funny
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I stopped playing this back around 2024 (wow 3 years since release). How's the state of the game nowadays? Was pretty boring when I quit
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>>2533402
I didn't play it at launch only a few weeks of last season and this one
it was pretty fun (completed everything I wanted to this season), like a casual poe. not as fun or deep but a good middle ground that didnt require me to sit on trade sites to get a good build
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>>2531927
>This perennial reinventing the wheel has to stop.
This. They are retards for doing that. What drives them to do that one has to wonder.
>>2532707
Based on everything they've been saying so far it's somewhere between 3-4. That is if they plan on doing filler expansions like horrid VoH.
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>>2533494
>like a casual poe. not as fun or deep
All true, but at the same time idk, I'm playing poe2 now (even bought it), I'm enjoying it, but man do I miss the "spend a talent point to make a change an abilities spell school." I've seen one support gem so far that kinda works like that but not really. For as much as Blizzard fucked up and continues to fuck up other areas of the game I still REALLY like that revision and wish we saw more of it. Grim Dawn handles it pretty well too. For a casual faggot like me the extra dash of build leeway to cobble together your own memeshit is so nice.
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>get the diablo thirts again
>want to try the current season
>try sorc again
>get bored in 10 levels
>try spiritborn again
>get bored in 10 levels
>try warlock
>seems boring as fuck by looking at the skills
>try rogue again
>get bored in 10 levels
I'm going to fucking brain myself I swear to god

What's a class/build YOU find satisfying to play? Either due to power or visceral animations/feeling of the class
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>>2534893
just get powerleveled and don't bother with the tedious leveling process, anon
almost any class is fun once you hit lvl 70 except warlock
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>>2534923
I like autistic leveling and I'm not in a rush to reach the endgame, choosing a fun class to stick with is the problem for me most of all. I'm thinking about trying spiritborn again but it all felt like slapping people with wet noodles
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>finished VoH + LoH stories
>got to torment 12
>beat meph (t10)
>got most of the dark citadel cosmetics
>unlocked most legendary/unique cosmetics
>played three characters (spiritborn, paladin, barb)

Have two more crux I can use to maybe get the last mythic unique transmog i dont have but I honestly think I'm done?

Will the new seasons really differ that much in terms of the core gameplay?
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Is this good? I think I need to do something with the cube to it?
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Does anyone have a Legendary Kry rune? Been looking for one for the past 3 days
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>>2534966
>felt like slapping people with wet noodles
that's just how it's going to be until you lvl up tho... no matter what class you play really... nobody really enjoys the leveling process
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>>2535752
thats not true
expert/penitent do not require proper builds. if you just skill properly and upgrade your shit you're gonna be slapping the shit out of enemies with whatever you're comfortable with even with random gear
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Ignoring what's meta, what's good right now or will be good or whatever, imagining a hypothetical scenario where all classes and builds perform equal, which class you would you say is the MOST FUN?
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>>2482945
D4 is trash, what did you expect?
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I played Grim Dawn up to level 35 and fuck it was boring. Maybe it's because I did a pet build. Better memories of playing barb in D4
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>>2535953
WW barb baby
Avoid carpal tunnel
Go fast
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Is it OK to play without the DLCs or will you be cucked
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>>2536954
you'll be cucked cause you don't even get all your skills
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>>2536937
If you don't like it you don't like it but a pet build certainly didn't help
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>>2537443
I just want to play an ARPG without having to click a million times. Why can't it be fun rolling around with your minions
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>>2537471
Go an auto attack build for that and mindlessly unga bunga at the enemy.
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>>2537541
There's no reason a pet build can't be involved and strategic, while also being low APM
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>>2535953
twisting blades Rogue
but I never tried spiritborn
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I notice a lot of builds using GLynn's Anvil have pieces with +12 resolve but I can only temper +3. I'm new to the game, how are they getting it higher?
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>>2539734
temper it until it hits GA, and then masterwork hit it
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>>2534893
same anon here, started again as a full poison spiritborn and it's silly enough to keep me playing. Not sure if any of the 'convert to centipede' skills are worth it though
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Is there some sort of Heirloom-equivalent from WoW to help levelling characters? I'm pretty new but I've got a Druid and a Barbarian to 70, trying Paladin nowbut it's a bit of a slog just running dungeon after dungeon and replacing all my gear every few levels.
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When I look at builds online I see points thrown into a bunch of extra skills, is that just so they aren't sitting there with the notification? Like the build is telling me to take and keep reap on a minion/curse necro build and seems like a wasted point
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>>2539922
As far as I know you wont have anything that auto scales from lvl 1 to 70, like how a heirloom Arcanite Reaper or whatever works

The "heirloom" equivalent would just be saving up a bunch of Whisper cache on your main and let your alt open them so they're instantly lvl 70 from the exp orbs that drop to the ground

I forgot the number I think it might have been 7 whisper caches? Dont quote me on this though.
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>>2540463
Oh that's interesting, I assumed those were character-bound. Thanks anon.
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Is it hard to get a six slot Horadric Seal? How do I do it?
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I'm having trouble doing enough damage to kill T10 Echo of Mephisto on my DoK Rogue. I am trying to find the easiest ways to eke out more damage. How high should I shoot for my glyphs and paragon level to be before I need to blame something else for my damage problems?
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Is there a date they are getting rid of the wow skins in the shop? Don't see one on my menu but I know the battlepass ends this month.
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>try to make a warlock
>try choosing female
>every face has a chin that could cut through steel and looks distinctly male
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>>2541223
>try choosing female
for what purpose
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>>2541228
because my four other characters were exclusively bald dudes and I thought to change things up? What kind of a fucking question is that?
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>Autism demands I complete every objective
>Scorched Shores: Complete objectives during Helltide in Skovos
>Helltide never fucking spawns in Skovos
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love poe1, dont like d2, dont like d3, HATE poe2
will i like this game?
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>>2541610
aren't POE1 and POE2 basically the same game though but the latter unfinished?
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>>2541626
no not at all
they basically looked at poe1 being fast and snappy and turned poe2 into complete opposite of it
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>>2541610
no, don't bother
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>sb: 15 hours, voh campaign
>pally: 52 hours, loh campaign + t10
>barb: 37 hours, t12

How
The
Fuck
Did I spend 100 hours on D4 in the year of our lord 2026
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>>2541626
its like poe1 except dunked in molasses
looks prettier at least
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So I head you guys like them diablos and shit
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4527100/Firefield/
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i jsut bo8ght ht egame a dn i don know i fi should play rwarlock or sorcerer
anybtips? it's fmyf rist time fplaying diablom4
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>>2543537
>reviews are mostly negative
>check the actual reviews
>most are positive
Huh?
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>>2543537
>AI-built 90s retro ARPG
We truly live in a godless world
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>>2545248
I closed out of the tab at that point too
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>>2543537
I hate that AI art style so much, I like to download demos sometimes and I always skip any game that uses that
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>>2543537
Counterargument:

AI is still better than whatever tranny devs "create".
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What do you guys do at the end of a season?

I've never done end game until now so I'm going to make a bunch of alts of other classes and burn the boss trophies on them for the uniques then dismantle for cosmetic unlock
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I play Dota 2.
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>>2546751
Cringe
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>>2546743
I play HC so I'm probably going to run my characters into meph blind and see how far I get
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>>2544569
hello?
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>>2541610
D4 right now is PoE 1-lite (very lite)

Zoom zoom through areas
Grab currency to craft shit and the best items are crafted
Specialize your activities in the endgame
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>>2547859
Sorc
>>2548882
You know that's a very funny way of putting it but I think you're spot on now after poe2
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Let it die /d4g/, let it die.
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guess there isn't that big of a pop in game atm for leaderboards, just did pit to see if the rewards were fixed and got top 30
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>>2551646
I think there was a bit of cleaning all the cheaters in the top placements
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Infernal Hordes
>half as many rounds that last twice as long
>higher likelihood of getting "spawns x event at wave start" modifiers at the very beginning
>soulspire radius expanded or move spawn points inside the radius
>aether fiends no longer do that dumb fucking birth animation, nor require you to be near it to start the animation
>don't despawn anything at wave end, let events finish out
I played WW barb (just came back for about a week since dropping it shortly after launch), which should be the most fun archetype to enjoy this mode. Played a bit with minion necro and it was way less fun, noticed with the barb ancients too that summons are allergic to going inside the soulspire radius and will park at the edge and prevent enemies from going in which is very annoying. If the mode's not going to get a complete rework, at least just a few of those things could help alot with the fun factor. I did start having a bit of fun with it around torment 3, with chaos waves, or for the last like 8 seconds of a round before everything despawns, once thing start feeling hectic, then it feels like the game is just arbitrarily blocking the fun. If it were to get a complete rework I do like the other anon's idea of something akin to killing floor, something where enemies come to you would be neat, especially with some skills being more like traps - rogue trap, the druid landslide morph, or necro's corpse explosion poison gas morph, and those just don't feel like they gel with the perpetual forward motion encouraged in most game modes. It's also just silly to go to the literal gates of hell, where the climax of the main campaign happens, just to turn it into a silly gameshow activity.
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>>2551646
>>2552619
>all the chinese names are gone
lel
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>still need 300 paragon cheevo
>highest i ever got was 267
idk how people do it
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>>2556141
Back then, it was using a controller with braindead builds that let you run in a circle while holding down a button then doing infernal hordes 1-2 hours consistently per day.

Yep.
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