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We establish our new fortress monastery here.

Actual previous.


>>>/vg/568592010

People don't realize the next class is Chaplain

Based Leandros is back

/vm/ will be better for the general long term. I o ow it doesn't have the visibility of /vg/, but it's significantly slower. So 30-45 minute gaps between posts are the norm.

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>World eaters
>Death guard
>Emperor's children
>Necrons
>Dark Eldar
>Fucking Orks

Maybe if saber gave us cooler enemies to fight the game wouldn't die as fast...

What am I missing about the Plasma Incinerator that has Reddit Tour Guardsman sucking it off?

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destroy saber

>>2528921
Don't you fucking dare you little red bastard!

ah yes
the retirement home for dead generals

>>2528948
The retirement home of generals is the grave.

>>2528948
If /vg/ wasn't full of fuck ass gacha threads, it would be a better place.

>>2528932
I don't watch any of his content, but I'm assuming it's just the "Charged shots deal a lot of damage and stagger"

>>2528955
they should be on /vmg/

FYI the bump limit of /vm/ is 500, not 750.

>>2528960
That's the thing, it actually deals no damage. Like it is comically underpowered compared to the Plasma Pistol.

love me bolt carbine, simple as

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Lookit me ray gay

>CHP system rework
>heroic fist
>heroic hammer
>potentially the 2h power sword
>potentially the tactical melee build rework
they're going to give tactical the 2h power sword btw

>>2528932
use the vent speed version if you aren't already it can fire 6 shots before overheat but yeah its still pretty dogshit

>>2529035
They best not have cancelled that second voice pack, because I want a Raven Guard VO for me Raptor.

>>2528931
it's not so much about enemies but the fact that the classes only have like 1-2 actual builds that are mostly determined by your loadout.
It took Darktide a couple years before they gave each class 3 abilities to choose from.
We already have 3 team passives and signatures but those aren't even nearly as gameplay style changing as Darktide's. At most it's another cooldown to pay attention to.

>>2529077
Was it just the Raven Guard and White Scars for that hypothetical 2nd pack? Was there not a third head/voice?

>>2529113
I believe Salamanders were datamined purely as a text string teaser, while Raven Guard and White Scars had a head each.

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>>/vg/568817324
>can't stand and fight directly in front of the big melee boss because at random it can hunker down and launch a point-blank barrage of spines that will near-instantly strip away your armour and half your health bar even if you do manage to start moving out the way the moment you realise it's coming
The Carnifex truly doesn't get enough shit for how bad it is, easily the worst terminus in the game. Yes even worse than the Neurothrope, I'm saying it; at the very least that can be burst down before it ever becomes a problem, and even then it's not too hard to play around it to watch out for when you need to get in its safezone and fight there. The only truly good roaming terminus fight is the Helbrute.
>>/vg/568855542
Chaos Spawn aren't too bad once you get used to mitigating their bullshit, namely not ever allowing yourself to be surrounded by a group of them. The thing that makes Chaos absolutely fucking unbearable to play against for me are the Enlightened Tzaangor. They are the most jank fucking garbage majoris in the entire game, with highly damaging unindicated attacks, weird hitboxes that don't look like they should be hitting you half the time, completely unpredictable movement that makes tracking them a nightmare, and downright broken parryable attacks that can ignore your parry and damage you anyway, or phase through you and do no damage because it's a busted piece of shit.
If they just removed that one enemy the Thousand Sons would be improved tenfold, which I know they will never do because they're not going to toss something they spent dev time on, so at the very least they could bring their health pool down. I mean way down, like barely more than a regular Tzaangor so they can be reliably bodyshot to death. They are WAY too tanky for how evasive they are.

>>2529155
God fucking damnit.
Meant for
>>>/vg/568817324
>>>/vg/568855542

>>2529125
lmao the vanguard is so goofy
>INTO THE MAW OF DEATH
>plop

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bye bye

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Jesus this was tough.

>>2529219
Yeah it's not fucking fun in the slightest, this weekly.

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Is it worth moving to /vm/ yet? I figured we'd at least wait until threads stopped reliably hitting the bump limit before dying.
>>2529077 (Checked)
They 100% would have been able to pocket everyone's money if they correctly managed expectations and were upfront about exactly what the voice pack would cover. Instead they were like "OVER 500 FUCKING LINES HOLY SHIT" without explicitly specifying that number included localisations. It was hilariously mismanaged.

>>2529246
We were getting to that point again, gaps between posts were hitting half an hour. The buzz over U13 has simmered down.

It'll be the Chaplain

Will have the option of Iron Halo or Jump pack

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>>2529225
And the funniest part is I would agree with this on the basis of what >>2529155 has to say. The random disk chickens spamming you whilst fighting a helbrute and simultaneously dodging soulreaper spam is actually aneurysm inducing. Even if it was just the soulreapers being annoying I could live with that, but those fucking beyblades spawn in abundance and won't leave you alone.

Also props to all my brothers of Corvus popping up.

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>>2528932
>>2529054
Actually I take it back this thing is pretty nice on chaos it's 3 charged shots for a rubric, 4 on spawns, you don't have to worry about headshots, and the aoe is pretty good.

>>2529261
It's Apothecary, please stop ODing on your laced hopium.

>>2529322
>Blood Ravens
>black aquila

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This nigger is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

>>2529344
His entire upload cycle is
>Actual release patch notes
>The same class videos he's been making for months
>Speculation
>Speculation
>Speculation

And the speculation is always masked as some huge discovery. Fuck dat nigga.

>>2529343
that is correct now

>>2529349
He has one game that gets him clicks, it's all he has. He's the dedicated SM2 YT channel.

cHP rework is going to be a mix of slow passive regeneration, and executions giving X HP back.

Team healing will be removed from Vanguard (not self healing) and Bulwark.

Apothecary will have minor boosts to team healing, but he won't be mandatory because you can heal without him regardless.

>>2529405
Please be true. Healers are fucking gay. I don't want to heal people.

>>2529405
doubt

>>2529405
Still doesn't solve Apothecary having no unique weapons to justify its addition as a class.

>>2529419
i mean the devs are talking about this contested health rework like it's a major overhaul of the mechanic.

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>>2529445

>>2529445
Narthecium
Reductor Pistol

Equal to Techmarine in the Omnissiah Axe and Servo-Gun.

Covenant of Fire is just Salamanders but cooler.
>>2529383
There are far better channels that are actually analytical and informative on the deeper workings of the game. Sturm, hoRg, fucking Zekromo who is making 1+ hour long analyses despite having just shy of 200 subs. It annoys me that the lowest common denominator pig swill goyslop that channels like FTG and Yeertski pushes out get so much attention. You can watch an FTG stream and see that he literally makes his videos live and cuts up the VoD into a "build" video afterwards (actually, he probably has an editor do it for him while he's streaming). It's the lowest effort imaginable.

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>>2529459
Forgot my image.

>>2529450
What, am I going to use the narthecium and reductor pistol on my dead brothers? What if nobody dies?

>>2529405
Nah they'll move the Vanguard and Bulwark perk to the Apothecary as well as having a team perk where it drops medkits (it will carry double the amount by default, up to 4x)

>>2529467
Apothecaries can and do use both of these tools actively on enemies, often to gather genetic material for study while also slaughtering them horror movie style.

I hope it’s apothecary and not chaplain, because I don’t think they’d be able to make its playstyle very distinct from bulwark. An apothecary is at least a lot different from what we have. Though I’d honestly be most interested in an aggressor, but that’s not happening.

>>2529467
both are designed to pierce straight through space marine armor at close range, the primaris variant of the reductor pistol is designed to have dual function as a close range anti armor weapon

>>2529459
Fucking Yeertski, can't remember the last channel I actually went out of my way to make sure I never see again before this cunt.

>>2529558
I think Yeertski is definitely the worst because he's just trawls Reddit and reads out the posts.

>>2529533
Should be Apothecary, Chaplain and Judiciar

I haven't ran Purgation a lot but the dialogue variety during the final elevator sequence where the squad more or less make oaths might be the most varied set of lines in the game, from a cursory glance at least. I wonder how many variations there are.

>>2529655
It appears to be that each class has a set with every other character. So as it stands, with 7 total characters, there's 42 different oaths.

>>2529673
but voice pack banter and different class voices retaining their mission-specific lines is too much, right?

>>2529673
Good thing I have a bunch of Absolute runs to farm out.

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It gets bigger every time I turn this game on.

>>2529629
>Judiciar
>slowing down time in an area with the Tempormortis and going nuts with the Executioner Blade while everything is hopeless to do anything about it
Sounds kino. They could probably work in some animation cancelling shenanigans with the Tempormortis since that's really what a melee-focused class needs to not feel like complete shit. The one sticking point I can see is the model in the tabletop only having access to his one unique weapon, and GW being sticklers for consistency might not allow his counterpart in the game to use anything else. So if that's the case, Saber would either have to develop a melee-centric class that will only have access to one melee weapon or go with something else.
Then again, most of the other classes are weird amalgamations of units on the tabletop, like the Vanguard at first glance clearly being a Reiver but having some of the wargear of an Infiltrator.

Can you keep a gaunt as a pet

>>2529687
I'll keep you as a pet.

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I cant believe we got evicted from vg.

>>2529715
We're simply too slow at this point. More than once I saved that general from P10 when nobody posted for an hour during the awkward dead zone time period where US is asleep and EU is at work.

The pyreblaster basically does not work during the last point in Purgation. Doesn't hit any of the minoris without 3 seconds of straight exposure. Also, does anyone have a fix for the plasma pistol dematerialising from your hand and not firing (getting you raped in the process?)

>>2529715
the alternative is living in /coopg/ and having them say "rollslop" or "press X to awesome" literally every time sm2 is posted, despite them having never played it

>>2529791
They talk about Darktide like people talk about Destiny. Everyone seems to fucking despise it but they refuse to move on

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>>2529800
I love DT and SM2

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I'm not feeling this grind. Make it 5/10/15 so I can feel a sense of progress without getting irritated by just how long it takes to not only run all these absolutes on just a single class, but sit through all the loading screens that inflate my time spent even further.

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Fuck your stupid timegated grind, you russian retards.

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>join hard siege
>the host already began it so he has all 600 points
>he has begun wave 1 without buying any tech priests
>tell him to buy tech priests
>he doesn't
>wave 1 ends, tell him to buy tech priests
>he walks over and starts the next wave
holy fucking shit, they're going to have to make a siege tutorial, these mouthbreathers ain't gonna figure it out

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>>2529816
Based.

>>2529155
my problem is the insta charges the fucker will sometimes do that's impossible to dodge

>>2529832
>description of Tech Priests is vague, not immediately obvious what benefit they provide ("provides resources" could mean anything from the currency you spend to the equipment found around the map)
>objectives have become a total noob trap as the time it takes to do them just runs down the clock to everything becoming practically invulnerable and are totally pointless if you know to keep the Tech Priests up
They've somehow made a basic bitch wave defence mode incredibly unintuitive. I actually like the direction they're going in but fuck me if they don't have a habit of falling on their fucking face when they're about to stick the landing.

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>>2529914
That's a vo_hm_fortress_engineer_cadianbuy_003 post

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And another thing, this dinky thing is locked behind 1000 waves of siege, which comes out to like 70 hours.
These motherfuckers locked cosmetics behind a 230 hour grind, and that doesn't even account for the time spent doing weekly/daily strategems or failed attempts.

>>2529921
I'm glad it's just iron halos I don't really plan on putting on my marines when only one of them can actually "use" it.

>>2529927
heavy's deployment of a large partial bubble isn't really iron halo functionality at all
mostly it's used to explain why helmetless oc donut steels don't immediately get their heads shot off, or why they can tank anti-armor rounds while regular marines get downed by them
it's plot armor, not even kidding, it's the physical manifestation of plot armor

>>2529921
It annoys me because this is probably the most bog standard "flashy but not extremely flashy" iron halo you see on a lot of models.

>>2529921
I'm pretty sure I see the same Iron Halos as rewards for different things

>>2529955
Each class has its own unlock.

>>2529955
Both Bulwark and Tactical get access to them, and in order to pad out metrics they made it to where you have to unlock them separately.

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>>2529816
Yeah it still feels like a slog.
I really want the full 50 mission black ones to go with the black shoulder shroud too.

>absolute difficulty
>I found a med stim, I'm going to tag it for someone else
>I'm going to leave this enemy in the execute state because I don't need it
>anything below absolute difficulty
>wow all of my health is now chp, luckily for me I put this enemy into the execute sta-
>the level 15 vanguard with melee champion equipped who has been picking up every single med stim on sight: https://youtu.be/XeJU_bJTcvE?t=20

>>2529715
We did not get evicted, we moved away.
Unfortunately we cannot compete with generals full of actual spastics who post the same 100 posts every thread as a ritual, and then spend their time just vomiting on each other and in the end saying nothing, their brand of autism is too powerful. We basically moved from NY to Vermont, there is less movement, but people don’t shank each other for a hot dog(most of the time)

>>2529914
That’s the most tech marine line in the game

2 gay Chaos dailies and a friendly fire myopia.

>>2530087
How gay are we talking here Brother

>>2530190
Gayer than a man's cock inside a man's mouth.

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oh hey, welcome to /vm/

>>2529821
Unless you don't plan on going online again there's no point maxing out your blue doritos like that.

>>2530297
Thank you :)

>>2528900
Adding the previous Battle-barge for posterity: >>>/vg/568592010
Good work all the same phone-poster Brother.

Bro i get the point of the new chainsword but god if i suck at it
Having to consistently double or tripple perfect parry and then do the whole combo and do animation cancel everytime to make it worth is too much high level for me on my vanguard ass
Block Power Axe is such a comfy life in comparison but boss damage is kinda what it is on bulwark like that

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>about to fire off a heroic plasma pistol shot
>battle brother walks in front of me and slides the barrel of my gun up his ass, consuming my shot
>mfw
Brothers it glided in with no resistance whatsoever. His armour was purple and gold I don't know if that matters though.

>>2530352
Vanguard, not bulwark

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>>2530297
Shiraoki is clearly the an aspect of Tzeentch

>>2530368
I heard they do strange things to their guns

>>2529821
>5/14/5 armory data
Have you started playing a month ago?

marine malevolent or iron warrior for the friendly fire daily?

>>2530478
iron warrior, Have faith word bearer

>>2530481
Oh yee of little faith

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I did it, by god I did it. I carried 2 people one level 10 the other level 5 through the hard strategem. These two retards didn't even have team perks equipped. All you motherfuckers that complain when you have a team of prestige 4 maxed out gamers and you still lose are mouth breathing yakubian apes.

>>2530490
What the fuck was wrong with the Assault

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>>2530490
>2 melee vs chaos
I'd rather pay someone to kick me in the balls repeatedly

>>2530496
he explained in chat that the jump pack would lag his game whenever he used it so he just didn't

>>2530499
>jetpack lags your game
>secure the offending class so nobody else takes it
>don't use the jetpack yourself
he's playing 4d chess

>>2530499
Why the FUCK would someone uses it then, the level of retardation
And even then, you can deal some decent damage anyway, it's a shitty excuse for being outperformed by a bot

>>2530501
i wonder if he also took a block weapon and paid attention never to use adernaline surge to prevent slowdowns.

>>2530499
Can't believe there's actually someone playing this game with a PC shittier than mine.

>>2530501
>>2530503
the duality of man

>>2529921
The SM2 troons on Discord are mocking most players complaining about grind and all of them have spelled out that their main priority now is keeping all those autistic late game players to "retain" engagement and keep the player numbers up.

That's why they sheepishly slashed the Absolute grind from 100 to 50 but didn't touch the siege mode cosmetics.

what's the best techmarine build?

>>2530528
If I remember right, the general advice was something along the lines of "maximize backpack gun first and everything else is secondary", but I blitzed through leveling him up when he came out and haven't really touched him since

>>2530528
I like the melee build with the omni-axe

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>>2530522
I've been doing normal mode runs just to unlock the weapon skins, starting with Tac since he has the most weapons that overlap with other classes. Plus there's something about blowing away hordes of bugs/daemons before they can do anything about it while blasting bands like Evil Army that tickles my brain.
On Tac (which if not on par with, is at least a close second behind Techmarine when it comes to grinding normal waves 1-5), I've been able to get my time down to somewhere between 5-10 minutes, more-or-less. I haven't exactly timed it but based on where I am in albums I'm listening to by the time I've finished a run I'd say it's within that range. Of course it depends on ideal conditions, like getting Chaos over Tyranids, what blessing I get and how early I'm able to find a pyreblaster canister. You'd be able to get it down even lower with two other players obviously, but who the fuck would want to do something so monotonous?
We'll call it seven and a half minutes on average to complete normal waves 1-5. Times that by a thousand and you of course get 7500 minutes, or ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE FUCKING HOURS.

>>2530548
Just play Normal/Hard Decapitation ad infinitum

Only dumb negroes play Obelisk and get stalled by 2 Helbrutes and the meme dark section

>>2530551
He's looping siege normal for the red/white/blue/purple/green/yellow skins, not stratagems

Started the game few days ago, leveling Heavy. Should go for Plasma or Melta weapon?

>>2530611
if you're still below ruthless then whatever you like best, just be sure to have something for thropes in the back pocket
if you're asking for harder difficulties, heavy plasma is way, way stronger if you can use it right (with an easy mode variant that's still pretty strong) but melta isn't bad either

>>2530611
Plasma is more versatile, the Melta is basically a shotgun, and struggles against the biggest enemies. The Heavy Bolter is also great fun

>>2530611
Plasma is probably the strongest in the primary slot, but if you're competent all of them are viable. Except for HBR, it's below average on Tactical who has a bunch of perks centered around getting extra damage out of his weapons

>>2529405
>>2529445
>Apothecary can prevent the geneseed from going kablooey on incapacitation
I just fixed it

>>2530638
I could see it as a prestige perk I suppose

>>2530626
>Melta
>an anti-horde shotgun instead of a dedicated extremis killer
>y'know because it's an anti-tank gat
I hate it so much

>>2530650
I don't like it either, they could at least made 2 variants, but no

>>2530650
the one thing you can't blame saber for (solely), relic did it first

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CAPTAIN, CAN WE KEEP IT PLEASE

>>2530650
could be a heroic for it to be more accurate to its true form?

>>2530686
there is a decent chance that the heroic could be exactly that, God Emperor willing

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>>2530638
>perk that is utterly useless if you've already maxed everything out
He'd need to do more with the globules than simply having the ability to break his fall to stop himself from crushing them whenever he eats shit. The geneseed is pretty much this vestigial mechanic for anyone who has been playing for an appreciable amount of time; like how many geneseed locations do you know outside of the original six operations? Shit, how many do you know outside of Inferno and Decapitation?

The Apothecary having an incentive to actually seek them out for a reason beyond the XP bonus would give them a use for max level players, even if it is just for one class. Whatever buff it provides to you and/or your teammates shouldn't be too powerful to the point where you'd feel gimped if it ended up spawning in the last possible location, but it should be nice enough to have that you feel compelled to learn where the geneseed can be found in every level.

>>2530718
space king 5 when

>>2530626
I remember the time when saying "melta is a shotgun" would have brought autists screeching in rage that "astartes" shotgun is a separate weapon in the universe. Crazy how we used to have resident weirdos that would keep the thread bumped 24/7 even when normal discussion died out

>>2530789
I honestly don't know if it was a good or a bad thing, I miss Fortify Anon though, I hope he finds this place
Also as long as Dude Wall posts our culture is alive

>>2530789
It really was a mistake to make the melta gun a faux-shotgun when Space Marines shotguns exist. Who doesn't like a good shotgun in a horde shooter? The thing is designed to be wielded by an 8ft tall super soldier clad in power armour enhancing his already superhuman strength; imagine the stopping power on that thing.

>>2528921
DON'T TOUCH IT YOU DAMN MAGPIE

>>2530806
I wish, it's basically a pocket canister shot from a cannon

Sometimes when the chaos portal that spawns enemies completes, nothing comes out and then enemies materialize and destroys your HP.
Sometimes you don't pull the Heroic Plasma pistol out when you swap to it so you can't charge it.
Just baffling bugs.

>>2530821
The plasma pistol one is genuinely annoying, especially if you want to pull off an auspex shot on a big enemy

Yeah moving here was a good idea. I'm looking around and our posting speed is like barely faster than every other thread.

I.
WILL TAKE CARE.
OF THIS ARCANE.
BARRIER.

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This shit is so funny. I'd be amazed if it got away without a nerf.

Come out of an execute and immediately lose 50% of my hp to a term missle salvo before I can even move. Really grinds my gears.

>>2530821
>See the chaos spawning smoke.
>Prep grenade/nova/take aim at all.
>Single cultist.
What's the word for this feeling?

>>2530929
if only it didn't have the equip bug it'd be a mainstay in most my loadouts

>>2529715
/vg/ is essentially just for Gacha now

>>2528907
Skyclaw Moment

>allow any class to have iron halo unequipped
>don't allow heavy to have the halo unequipped
I'm going to scream the n word

>>2530409
I heard you do strange things to your warriors.

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>>2530958
Same vibes

>>2530718
Who’s more of a psychopath? Decimus or Hatemonger?

>>2530958
Aren’t those the Space Wolves that are so aggressive that they’re made into Jump Pack Marines as a punishment?

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Ah yes, the venerable Blood Wolves.

>>2530986
This image is so dense....

>>2528907
>pride before the fall, remembrancer's sketch, M42, colorized

>>2530986
that's just a regular Blood Raven though.

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Carrying a couple brothers who are leveling through prestige for a few matches is what Corax would want from us

>>2531059
I have a feeling he'd want something more along the lines of liberating our home world (sm2g) from the shackles of its tyrannical regime (Saber) through our unconventional warfare tactics (cape ordeal spoofing and maybe a pipe bomb)

>>2531074
Saber's dogshit game director is also oppressing our brothers, but I like your idea

>>2531074
>>2531092
>>2531059
Corax would tell us to normalize assassination of bad leaders and start handing out hunting rifles

>>2531107
The hero we need

>>2531107
Was Corax secretly based

>>2529459
>FTG/Yeertski
Yeah, FTG is in my recs a lot but that's just what the algo rewards. Daily, consistent content irrespective of any actual analytical depth or discourse. I hate myself for continuing to click on his shit but it's the closest thing we got to pre-patch analytics and to bw fair he gets a couple things right. Still, can't fucking help but roll my eyes at every tier list he makes.
>"It's okay x class isn't the wooooorst. Nothing is baaaad and if you wanna play it that's fiiiine. Just, x class needs a little bit of help so pray to Saber."
>"Oh yeah, oh yeah X class is the goat. It's always worth it in every major comp. Oh also this list isn't taking in Siege so-"
Fuck off. I ran into this shit way back during Elden Ring youtube shit too. Youwy offered zero fucking discourse aside from "Oh yeah this weapon is god." Or "This weapon'a just shit, sorry not sorry if you like it."
>Those reccomendations.
Knew about Sturm but I'll check out the other two. I like Sturm but I do think he gets a few things wrong in his analytics by going over everything in a vacuum. His Gunstrike vids are top tier but he never ever takes Argent Edge or the Power Axes' backstep.

>>2530986
I hate these helmets so much

>>2531161
Secretly?

>>2531232
Well, he was secretive

>>2531235
kek

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[gorilla noises]

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What's the go-to for just grinding gear and levels? The quick play at the highest difficulty you can manage, siege or stratagems?

>>2531244
yes, and if you have a team that can carry you a bit while not being dead weight, just spam absolute

new kinoma just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hD3KBwoiA

>>2531244
Normal Siege is probably the most mentally engaging at this point. Repeating Ops over and over back to back can get real dull.

>>2531250
The Aquila salute is quite possibly the gayest thing GW has ever created.

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>>2531250
Is this the first time we've seen the Emperor's Corpse outside of artwork?

>>2531250
VA tries way too hard and ruins it completely
random slav did better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy4CJ4F-epA

>>2531250
and people say 40k is not about grimdark anymore

>>2531261
>is this artwork the first time we've seen the Emperor's corpse outside of artwork?
also that's not the Emperor

>>2531315
A CG ad for a new ruleset is not traditional art.

>>2530307
The fuck do you mean? I just want to be able to pick whatever i want and actually play the game. I'm not some gen alpha faggot.
>>2530421
Haven't played since before the techno marine was released.

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>>2530307

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>>2528938
>>2530807

It's weird that all future Operations we never fight alongside fellow Smurfs again.

It's just IG and AM missions, we sorely need an Operation where we fight alongside actual Smurfs fighting on-screen like in the final missions.

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Why is he so small

>>2531426
virgin primaris loyalist vs chad firstborn legionist

>>2531426
he's a smurf

Hear me out. Blue big boi broker deal with space elfs through his pointy eared wench to get biggest soul stone and put old man into it. Then put it into some kind of big robot so he will do funny things.
Imma gonna get another beer.

>>2530981
Yes.

>>2531464
half the emp's soul is in the warp being all gay and happy and shit tho

>>2531464
Nobody wants to disrupt the status quo regarding the Emeperor for several important reasons, not the least of which is because his existence is so fragile that any attempt to make any change is liable to delete him from existence.
Then you have the opposite possibility, where his soul becomes untethered and we get The Birth of Slaanesh 2: Golden Apocalypse.

Oh my god darktide is so shit compared to this game

>>2531574
/coopg/ (actually /dtg/) agrees but will still violently shit all over you if you dare say it anyway

I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF LV10 NO TEAM PERK SHITTERS IN THIS FUCKING STRAT

>>2531587
sucks to be them, cucks of the swedes (I like darktide too, but I have half the hours I have in SM2, maybe less)

why the board hop?

>>2531607
/vg/ is filled to the brim with shit generals that have ritualposting schizos and discordtroon drama up the ass, and /sm2g/ can't really keep up with it so we had to move here

/coopg/ would work if they weren't faggot retards that violently shit on any game discussion not darktide

>biovore raising its claw to hit you does damage
This game is a fucking joke

>>2531616
>/coopg/ would work if they weren't faggot retards that violently shit on any game discussion not darktide
frankly, you didn't try discussing the game there, there were 2-3 sm2 posts per thread and they were ignored both by regulars and other sm2g anons. They were even nice to include SM2 stuff in the OP template.

>>2531574
It's just old engine or smth. Haven't played myself but friends showed how they play vermintide. Looks literally the same as darktide.

>>2531596
Saber will never level gate SM2 and they're banning people who complain on their official Discord.

>can't votekick on the lobby anymore
>can't kick the host if he's the actual shitter or low level shit

There should be a main option where players can set the minimum level and prestige rank they're willing to play with.

Some classes can play Absolute with just 2-4 prestige perks and the grinding will never end for cosmetics.

>>2531596
>>2531667
>Join lobby
>No Bulwark
>No Techmarine
Instant leave

Wasn't tact ammo regen on execution before or am i tripping? Also why it's so busted? I literally have infinite ammo on stalker bolt rifle with it.

>>2531674
There's a separate talent for ammo regen on majoris and above kill every 30 seconds and then a separate ammo regen weapon perk for Stalker bolt based on shots landed before reload.

>>2531678
Nah, i mean wasn't tact personal regen on execution and not on kill?

>>2531683
I remember it being on kill for a while now.

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>>2531383
They could've gone nuts in ops.
They could've tweaked or expanded on the plot so Acheran calls for help from other chapters, and we could've had operations where we're fighting alongside actually blood angels or actual black templars.
Instead the most we get is off screen radio chatter during reclamation. Took me a couple of runs to even realize that was a fellow space marine talking to you and not another Magos.

Vaultus is ok, but his AI is pretty shitty, and his voice sucks imo. The voice acting in general is a big step down from dawn of war. Blood Ravens make ultramarines sound like larping jeets.
https://youtu.be/pDrIYwB4OAs

Could've made champions from other warbands or factions end op bosses too.

>>2531674
Tactical are the devs' favorite class

Meanwhile the Sniper has to shoot at little shitters every 15 seconds to recuperate ammo while the Heavy has to MELEE EXECUTE an Extremis enemy just to get one (1) magazine

>>2531699
they didn't want space marine reinforcements because that would make the operation too easy and saber don't want that even though bolters suck
i bet they'll add a terminus boss in purgation in a future update or tweak the terminus spawns in that map to fuck players just grinding and running

>>2531704
>Tactical are the devs' favorite class
Mine also, since it's so busted. Infinite ammo, crapload of damage, triple damage for whole team ability, infinite explosives for whole team, room clear on execution. No defense tho. Kill them before they kill you.

>>2531713
>No defense tho.
3 armour tabs and an AoE melee every 90 seconds, just spam E on every Majoris that doesn't die from a gun.

>>2531730
>spam E
I prefer to control that explosion. And boom when needed.

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>absolute difficulty
>teammate asks him why no team perk
>he replies "where do I get that?"

>>2531742
Based. He just goes and kills enemies of mankind. All those level, perks and stats thing don't concern him. You do math, he enacts his will.

I finally won the hard strat purely on the basis that no player got spitroasted with awkwardly alternated snot blasts.

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>>2531765
well done brother

>>2531777
We didn't even runfag either, we thought the first two Helbrutes like MEN.

Granted two Guardian Relics saved the run.

>>2531780
*fought

I swear I'm developing dementia.

>>2531780
Running makes no sense, they'll just reset the Terminus counter and appear not too long later.

Running as a group and letting the Helbrutes get killed by Valtus is the proper strategy, that means leading them slowly across the ramp instead of mindlessly running straight to the gate.

>>2531823
They can't die to Valtus, they despawn.

>>2531823
works on my machine ran to valtus and didn't get any spawns in the battery section

Reminder that red nigga theory applies to this game, in which it is much easier to track and responds to threats when your own character is much easier to detect in the crowd.

>>2531844
Both outcome can happen.
I've lured two helbrutes to Valtus 3 times while I got them to despawn completely once.
I think it depends if the gate to Valtus is locked or unlocked when you reach the drop.

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Former ultramarine red corsair

>>2531747
>goes and kills enemies of mankind
Yeah, in the rear lines. He's one of the guys patrolling the german border to make sure nazi officers don't get away while the P4 guys with team perks in easy company are in the capital pissing on the berlin wall and spearheading the invasion force.

Substantial ops, canonical objectives aside, are like borderline training exercises for new marines to build experience off of and prepare for actual impactful combat operations.

Ruthless is like standard frontline combat.

Lethal and absolute are easy company launching a high risk operation to assassinate Heinrich Himler behind enemy lines or something.

>>2531844
Sometimes they despawn, sometimes Valtus shoots them dead and you'll only get 2 more Terminus spawns in the trainyard.

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This really didnt feel like that many enemies.

Lobby doko? :3

if they're adding the apothecary they should add the chaplain, the judiciar and a scout marine

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>>2531996
That's a real indicator of how much longer the new ops are than launch ones.
I'll be lucky to get over 400 kills on decapitation if I'm using tons of grenades and going through nearly my whole ammo supply during the wall climbing section.

>>2531996
800 minoris wave near gate. Yeah.

>>2532037
they are not adding more than one class, we are gonna get either chaplain or apothecary, I don't see any other being a real candidate

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>>2532054
how did they die at the same time

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>>2532054
>>2532057
Make it count

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>>2532057
Retarded I guess.

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>>2532013
Bost a code haha :3 :3:3

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>>2532092
How about some Hard Siege :3

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>>2532054

>>2532098
2/3!

>>2532092
>>2532110
It's so over. Thanks for giving it the wait, brother but I really don't want to go with pubbies. They make my tummy ache :(

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>>2532136

>>2531252
Siege gives reduced XP, don't use it to grind.

I am now going to take the arduous journey of cheating in capes for heavy and assault. Do not pray for me, for I am already dead.

>Encarmine Axe
>12 damage
>4 speed
Holy dogshit not in a million years

>>2532223
It's still faster than going the usual saber-envisioned route, Brother. Emperor Guide you!

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>When a video game affects your geopolitical opinions
I unironically support Ukraine solely because I want these developers to get conscripted and droned.

>>2532347
wow they even said they weren't going to disable it too

>>2532347
if they didn't do this everyone would just grind in these, custom missions awarding xp is always a shitshow of efficiency beating out fun
you can still do ordeals in these, though

Do you take sentry aura into Siege mode as a techie? Execution armor seems like it'd be better

>>2532398
You do. It works on all sentries, even if not tech buys them. It's kinda huge bonus.

>>2532223
qrd on capecheat?

>>2532487
the value you are looking for isn't (number of current completeed absolute runs on that class), it's (absolute runs * 8) + 1, and you're going to need to cause a few updates to that number, adding +8 each time, to narrow it down and then get it to actually roll over once you set it to 393 (which is equivalent to 49 runs)
EAC bypass is on fearless

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>>2532504
Is this some sort of cheat engine injection thing, because what you said has zero meaning to me

>>2532504
oh, and custom hard strats count as absolute runs

>>2532516
it's just very basic usage of cheat engine, if you've ever used cheat engine to find a memory address and modify the value saved there then you would understand it

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>>2532223
thank FUCK that's over
I'm not playing assault again until they drop the new heroic fist, heroic hammer, or 2h power sword

Still can't figure out a cool Vanguard look to justify farming a cape for him.
World Eaters don't use capes so those don't fit either.

>>2532624
>Vanguard is peak World Eaters
>the one class that can't get Heresy-era esque studded boots
It's like the game actively hates me

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>>2532624
Scythes of the Emperor with the black cape and veteran shroud like from the astartes 2 trailer

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>what's the point of heavy in siege? I don't get it, he's the worst class in the game!
I hope we shook this retard in the move

>>2532516
When you use cheat engine what you're looking for a is a number. But not all numbers are stored as that specific number.

For example maybe you have 100 gold, but in the game files its stored as the number 200 (your 100 gold plus 100). Therefore, what you're looking for is 100 gold (what you have) plus 100. What you search for in the search bar is 200, because that's the number that's stored. Then once you find it, you edit it to 300 which means you now in-game have 200 gold.

In Space Marine 2 for achievements the number you want to edit (how many runs you've done) is changed to:

(Absolute Runs * 8) +1

Therefore the equivalent to 49 runs is 393.

You can find how many runs you've done by just looking at your in-game terminal. So lets say on Tact you've done 3 runs, the number you need to find is 3*8 then +1 so 24+1 which is 25. So you search for 25, you should only find 1 value, chances are you will find many. So you do an Absolute run legit and now you've done 4 runs which is 4*8+1 = 33. You then search for a number that changed from 25 to 33 and you'll likely find it. If you don't, repeat the previous step.

You then can edit that number 33 to 393, which in-game gives you 49 runs of Absolute. Doing 1 more legit run will give you 50, and the cape will unlock.

To get past the EAC, go onto the Fearless (Cheat engine) forums thread and find it. Its in there somewhere I forgot what page. If you need more instruction on how to actually use CE just go to youtube, its super easy to use. Its just 'how' you find the right number that people have to figure out.

>>2532832
>he's the worst class in the game
sniper is the worse class then heavy. saber said heavy is getting buffed (after tact lmao) so finally he can stop being power crept by tacti.

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>>2532833
I appreciate the in-depth explanation brother. But I don't think I want the cape that badly.

>>2532624
Ultramarines and the red cape always looks good.

>>2532841
These classes still don't need buffs, they need complete reworks. The entire perk system being these hyper linear trees need reworks.

I'm hoping to Christ that Space Marine 3 gives us a proper loadout system where gear and items are weighed with a score system, in which you have a finite amount of points to spend. And then if you have any points left, you can spend them on "blessings" to buff the team. Basically the idea being do you want to be relatively basic to help your bros, or do you want to instead be individually strong but your team gets no benefit from you just existing.

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>>2532841
tac is just getting a melee build slapped over the top of his unused nodes because they're giving him 2h power sword, it's not a general buff to the existing extremely broken build

heavy, I doubt it's even a buff, people are just retarded and look at heavy's skills and say "these do nothing!" completely neglecting the fact that his base kit is so mindnumbingly stupid it just melts everything on screen

>>2532859
*so they're going to make heavy's skills "make sense" so people stop thinking he's weak just by judging a book by its cover
forgot to add that

>>2532859
>>2532868
heavy is weak, tacti literally does his job but better but once they rework his team perks and buff everything that isn't pyre it'll be fine

>>2532856
>These classes still don't need buffs, they need complete reworks. The entire perk system being these hyper linear trees need reworks.
I wish they would just remove classes entirely. You should be able to design your space marine from the ground up from armor type, weapons, grenade types, ammos.

oh for christ's sake he's still here

>>2532504
I don't get it

How do you find (absolute runs * 8)?

>>2532859
>people are just retarded and look at heavy's skills and say "these do nothing!"
Heavy skills literally do nothing.

>>2532876
See >>2532833

>>2532870
>heavy is weak,
lol
lmao even

Heavy isn't weak but his perks are shit, because the perk system itself is shit.

Unironically a Warframe system would be better where you slot cards and call them Blessings. Faster reload speed, better ranged damage, increased cooling, AoE effects when Iron Halo or Banner are used etc.

>>2532895
They should genuinely just ditch SM2 support entirely and focus purely on SM3. There will never be enough changes to fix the clusterfuck that is SM2 coop.

Wow look at all those minoris kills. Truly impressive

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>>2532876
have you never operated CE in your entire life?

>>2532873
I think GW would actively destroy Saber if they tried that, so yeah here's to hoping

>>2532887
Heavy brings literally no utility to the table that another class doesn't do better

>>2532919
Don't respond. Hes a shitposter who relies on posting his pointless Pyre kills to try and pretend Heavy is useful. Hes been doing it all month.

>>2532919
>utility
lol
who gives a shit when everything is dead before it even aggroed

>>2532887
>>2532925
don't bother, he's going to go into an endless loop of acting like team perks are all that matters when selecting classes, and will not, under any circumstance, acknowledge any of heavy's weapons other than heavy bolter
I sincerely hope he's pretending to be retarded

>>2532926
What weapons? You mean the same weapons Tactical has and also doesn't run out of ammo for? While also having a melee weapon, a useful ability, and the best team perk in the game?

>>2532870
>>2532924
>pyre
literally no heavy uses that, why are you pretending to know about class balance when you think there's heavy players using the pyre

The helbrute is fun to fight, an anomaly among chaos enemies.
Double helbrute plus 20 chaos spawns is fucking awful and I hope whoever is responsible gets the shit kicked out of them.

>>2532895
>Heavy isn't weak but his perks are shit, because the perk system itself is shit.
The perk system is shit. But its also massively unbalanced. Vanguard/Bulwark/Tact are completely busted due to heals and equipment regen+damage buff.

>>2532930
You're beyond help.

>>2532934
Double Terminus is retarded, 3 regular Spess Mehreens could never handle them

Many are getting rekt with those double plasma shots and those double spawn pounds

>>2532937
>thrope beams you through your gay little shield
oh nyooooooooooooooo

>>2532936
Techmarine is also up there after Battlefield Repairs got reworked to be 2 armor return on Majoris executions. That one perk makes you insanely survivable.

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I swear to god, this is just an elaborate application of Cunningham's Law. He just wants someone to tell him how to play heavy, and I'm not going to fucking do it.

>>2532930
Don't respond, hes just going to samefag endlessly. Everyone objectively knows Heavy is weak there isn't anything to talk about and engaging in it is just going to ruin the thread with garbage like this.
>>2532926
>>2532925
>>2532887

>>2532947
How to play heavy
>don't
ez

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>>2532948
you're so fucking stupid

>>2532633
>World Eater wearing Phobos
Gross. Tactical has the best selection for World Eaters with how the pteruges loin covering really NAILS (lol) the look. Wish they'd just unlock all the wargear for the classes that can reasonably wear it.

>>2532930
if you think plasma gun is, in any way, the same as heavy plasma you have never played the game before at all and are not worth talking to

>>2532945
Yeah the balance has become totally fucked. And its insane that Tact of all fucking classes is getting a rework first. Sniper and Heavy need desperate fixes. Sniper needs more melee options and better AoE options now that Siege is so important for blue doritos and Heavy needs his team perks and personal perks reworked, as well as just general weapon buffs.

>>2532961
>Siege is so important for blue doritos
who the fuck cares? you will still be capped out just playing hard weeklies months before they ever update shit

>>2532960
Yeah, it's better. Because Tactical can actually get ammo back and not spend half the match stomping like a mongoloid while out of ammo

>heavy bad because I run out of ammo
the self report is finally here

>2532967
not worth talking to