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Your source of the juiciest dramas about gacha games. Anything goes---your sentiment about the gacha industry, schizo takes, conspiracy theories, MTL screenshots from obscure Chinese forums, or just random gacha related topics that don't fit in a specific general.
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5 STAR CHILD EROTIC
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KILLS MIHOMO
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Yuri pandering finds its way into another "ML" game...
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>Be character designer
>women employee hates it
>gets censored
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>>1978962
Goddamn, that girl literally naked. Is Mihoyo really that desperate now?
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>>1978962
The foids, faggots, and troons on Xitter and r/QueensofGacha were seething at this btw
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>>1978962
you can tell waterkuma design this because of the mole but they censored it cause its too revealing
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Humilation ritual
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>>1978986
Giving this fucking cuck a real run for his money.
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>>1978961
I need everything you can get about this type of stuff in-game, here you have another one anon
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KYS c/u/ck
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>>1978967
>2026
>everyone who knows gacha knows what lads is
>everyone and their grandmother knows twilight
>everyone and their grandmother knows 50 shades
>everyone and their grandmother knows the Minotaur gloryhole book
>redditors STILL swear that women cannot be perverts
I don’t get it.
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>>1978991
I been playing for 32 hours but i haven't find any yuribaiting, every personal story i have done with the characters has only for (you) content in it, honestly I kinda got surprised when i saw this >>1978961 and this >>1978989 since Besta is super low tier character that isnt even on the tier list and no one gives a shit about her, BUT better safe than sorry this isn't an instant drop but i gonna keep and eye on it, my rule to drop a game are three strikes, this is one even if dont give a shit about the character
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>[BREAKING NEWS]
New information coming out reveals Mr. Sun Ho Yu applied to for a co-op internship position for miHoYo during the boom of Genshin Impact (co-vid) via UC Davis' online co-op job board.
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>>1979032
The hottest new gacha, Star Savior!
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>>1979024
Saint was also a genshin whale and had a now deleted genshin channelallegedly, he is sour grapes because hoyo didnt gave him an employee or cc contract. Same for endfield, he was praising it while playing the second closed beta that was identical to the released version, couldnt get a cc contract and now he shits on the game.
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>>1978407
Can this so-called "Evergreen" gacha stop clout-chasing Zenless Zone Zero already?
Wait, I thought the narrative was that ZZZ’s revenue only looked good because of "top-up" events and that you guys were busy making fun of the "Void Hunter" story? What happened? Both games are now one patch past their big spending events, yet your "masterpiece" is barely at ZZZ’s heels. You’re getting absolutely curb-stomped by Sunna in every category.
Check the rankings: In Japan, ZZZ is sitting at #8 while your "Evergreen" is stuck at #28. In Korea, ZZZ is #13 and "Evergreen" is #17. The gap in the US is even more embarrassing—ZZZ is at #114, while your game can’t even break into the overall charts.
Back then, you used your peak spending month to trash-talk the ZZZ loli, bragging about 220k concurrent viewers, "mainstream appeal," and "saving the industry." You called it the "Gacha Miracle." Now that your hype is dead, you can’t even touch ZZZ’s shoelaces. Seriously, I’m begging you "Evergreen" gacha fans to stop trying to put yourselves in the same league.
Go check the Tmall Merch rankings first and see where you actually stand. You need over 100 million in annual sales to even be a "rising power" there. I have no idea how many years your "God-tier" game would have to stream just to make that kind of money.
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>>1979064
Hoyo as always
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another win for zzz
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>>1979068
A rank can't flop.
Actual character looks like that.
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>>1979074
>zzz going all in on gooner audience
>wuwa wants the genshin audience with more shipping, platonic relationship and male main push
>zzz still imore popular than wuwa while wuwa still standing behind genshin shadow
Wuwon I guess? Kek.
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>>1979081
Wugay devs understand that Promilia is going to destroy them anyway, so they surrender preemptively and pivot back to initial plan of being gaytranny genshin clone.
Mihomo actually wants to try their luck with ZZZ, it was rated 16 specifically to allow that.
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>>1979087
For a 3d game? Yes, kinda.
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>>1979079
I honestly don't even know what design philosophy ZZZ has. Every update has characters that look like they belong in a different game from the previous batch of characters.
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AK Endfield is literally dying, the player retention is absolute trash and you guys are still busy shitposting about zzz and wuwa...
Remember when AK was actually considered one of the 'Big Three' back when Genshin was at the top, then now look at the state of Endfield.
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>>1979093
If that's what you want to believe, sure.
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>>1979094
This doesn't really affect the original Arknights. In fact, Endfield will suffer further humiliation in May when Arknights releases a long-awaited character for its anniversary and surpasses Endfield in revenue.
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>>1979099
>Not even yuribaiting
Bold statement when there's visual evidence of characters talking about lesbian sex. I have no further comments or replies to give you, go fill out some surveys or send angry messages to the devs instead of arguing on /gdg/.
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Based ZZZ shows wuwatrannies how it's done.
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barely a few months in and endfield already realized leaning to MLslop and failing to have a veneer of grim is killing their game. i told everyone in there it was a betrayal. but they have paid shills and schizophrenic indonesians screaming otherwise.
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>idols performed better than most zzz season 2 banners after the spending event
>flop!!! Loli doesn't sell!!!
>wuwa waifu of the week is a record flop after the spending event
>d-doesnt count!!! People who wants sigrika spent on luuk banner because of the spending event!!!
Why are wuwajeets like this?
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>>1979118
Endfield is flopping because of shit combat, shit story, shit gacha and constant technical fuck ups. They don't even heavily pander to MLfags, why are you pushing this shitty narrative, you mentally ill cuck?
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>>1979114
Funnily enough Concord lasted 2 weeks and AKE hits 2 months today. Also longer than Highguard which was 2 weeks short off hitting 2 months mark
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>>1978953
In just a few more months we /vmg/ will be gathered around here to APOLOGIZE to our masters, Hotta studio for finally putting an end to Genshin Impact, ushering in a new Era of Gacha gaming.
Apologizes can start now to redeem yourselves.
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>>1979131
Ardashir doesn't need to imagine
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>>1979128
There is a “best selling” novel about a woman who falls behind on paying her student loans, and so to pay them off she takes a job giving handjobs to minotaurs on a farm. She ends up starting a relationship with one of the minotaurs.
And of course, once people started hearing about this it clicked for them that there’s a whole market for this stuff.
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>>1979143
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nikke? Blue archive? gfl2? if youre only counting mega successful ones they only do well because theyre full 3d open world. once we get a waifu only one of those in azur promelia we will see. in asia theres ones like heaven burns red, princess connect that did very well for a while.
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>>1979158
cant believe theyres a smelly smark aew tranny who also likes /hoc/.
grim, bleak even.
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shall never play a gacha with rollable males
its not just because i dont want to use them, it just invites the worst kind of cancer players that eventually ruin the game. every game with actual drama from within the fanbases (Not made up nothingburgers from here) are mixed toilet games
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>>1979163
I actually hope they make a genshin tier quality AAA game that only has men in it and is full fanservice coomer for all the fujos, femcels, homos, and trannies. that way they will stay out of every other game because they already have a perfect game for them. the reason they bitch so much is there isnt that game for them to all go to yet.
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>>1979166
yes
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>>1979182
>for some reason they're hiding that
Or maybe it's not true because there are plenty of female characters? They literally made the antagonist girl a playable character, if they wanted to pander to male-lovers she would've been killed off.
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>>1979055
Where is wuwa? This is actual sales ranking from China biggest marketplace.
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Eosfield...
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wait, what the fuck is happening with AP? they literally have a beta running right now but the game isn't even in the top 10. meanwhile its direct competitor is sitting at #1.
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>>1979232
Registration opened a month ago (pic is mine) and even though it’s slated for April 3, the beta’s been out for a week already slowpokebro.
That’s why bibli is already full of cbt2 gameplay and reviews yet the game can't even crack the top 10.
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>>1979242
Ai didnt kill anything, retard. One ram manufacturer shut down and the other ones decided to cut production by 40% when the demand is the same or higher. They probabaly decided to save resources till they can develop both gpus and rams with integrated ai, temporary setback
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>>1979236
>Registration opened a month ago (pic is mine)
True and the winners are already announced
>full of cbt2 gameplay and reviews
That's from the offline test retard. Learn the difference between offline test and online test. Those reviews are from selected people who are invited to offline test and directly observed by Manjuu staffs.
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>>1979250
The algorithm ranks based on engagement. It doesn't matter if only a few people are actually playing right now compared to a full beta, there’s already footage and new characters all over bili for people to talk about, but there’s basically zero hype. No fanfare at all.
If you look at the view counts on those bili vids it’s just pathetic. How do you have 10m pre-regs in CN alone and still pull such garbage view count numbers?
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>>1979261
Not the subreddit janny, the actual site mod team who generally only gets involved if something breaks ToS.
For context, the post was literally just a screenshot of a leaker saying "Good new lolicons, you have a loli" or something to that effect >>1978953. Not even a picture of a loli. That means that most likely it upset a powermod troon so badly that they called in a favor with one of the site mods to remove the whole thing or it just got so badly raided and reported that they took note of it and removed it to get them to shut up.
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>>1979258
>It doesn't matter if only a few people are actually playing right now
Literally nobody is playing right now, retard. The offline test already concluded days ago.
>new characters
Everyone already knows these first three "new" characters. The actual new characters and full features will be unlocked later during online test on April 3rd. Predownload starts March 31st, so save your doomposting for then.
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>anti-ML cucks not being total cucks: challenge impossible
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I hope snobble is using all this down time to make their game less kusoge feeling.
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>A male with zero hype beat two out of 3 of ZZZ's 2 year-long hyped loli idol faction
KNEEL
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>xhe doesn't know that the nips in that website were mocking and laughing at luuk's sudden, suspicious jump in the iOS sales rankings
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>/vg/ mods nuked 4 /zzz/ generals in a row
>kept the one yaoi OP thread up
LOL
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>>1978994
>Best ML game
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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what about >>1978986
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>>1978953
Does anyone follow any NA gacha drama here? Can someone explain to me why the wuthering waves content creators are all trying to sue each other or file copywrite strikes against each other etc? I saw on X how they're all shit talking and backstabbing each other now. lol
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>>1979422
There's a certain wuwa CC that owns the whole gacha scene and some don't like that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWiO4a2DbpQ
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Snowbreak was right about everything including cosplayers.
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Nikke is Anti-Yuri
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Nice ML game wuwasaars
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>>1979470
Whoops, looks like yurixisters can't get their idol dancing without proper music
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>>1979451
If snowkek was right about everything, why they never left china and their censors?
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>>1979449
By flopping and dying?
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>>1979454
>release banner
>Raiden
>Bina
So shota fujos and then two yuri banners. Where is ML moron?
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>>1979481
>the raymond shit and nahida shit were the two major psyops created by the ml movement
theres no significant differences between those happenings and the ones that go on in the games the ml movement supports, other than popular opinion. Its fake and gay
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>>1979482
Nod-Krai is literally breaking records. Mihoyo is making more money than ever. Stop trusting retarded AI tracker sites that only guess mobile revenue. Also Nahida was a double banner, Raiden made more money even if not by much.
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>{{headcanon}} made jackshit money compared to {{headcanon}}
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>>1979481
>ml movement
So a complete meme from retarded 3rd worlders and angry koreans? Games pandering to ML fags like Snowbreak make nothing compared to big boys. Even wuwa is a double MC "mixed toilet" that launched with a male banner.
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>>1979485
nod shit isn't making jackfuck money or breaking any records you mong. i can literally look at the official charts from apple and the worldwide rankings and columbina's banner wasn't even in the top 10 where random banners in 2021/2022 were able to reach top 5 worldwide, genshit lost a lot of revenue after all the new big gachas released
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>>1979478
>Check the source video
>34,000 views
>36 comments
>Author's statement: These are personal opinions and for reference only
>The data is based on Sensor Tower coefficient statistics, including PC/PS estimates from both domestic and international sources
Can anyone remind me how many TikTok hours did Columbina get compared to Mavuika or other archons?
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None of this shit matters when their real revenue is higher and market cap keeps getting better every year. Gacha market is different than 5 years ago, whales spend on PC/laptops way more than on mobile and PC gaming got many times more popular in Asia.
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>R-real revenue is higher!
>wuwon and endflop are doing well too
lmeow
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>EU cucks want to force censorship onto Zenless Zone Zero
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>>1979477
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>>1979499
All you can do is show examples of the ml movement destroying things but nothing about what they built because it cannot happen
>inb4 you dont want me to use the winning formula foids and faggots used to take over
foids and faggots do the exact opposite, they subvert games that dont pander to them in any way, demand to be pandered at least 1% of the time, then use that 1% gay to tell the 99% straight they don't belong and pressure them into quitting. Mlfags demand games to pander 100% to them from the start, and once the company by incompetence or malice adds that 1% gay they quit and tell the other 99% straight that they don't belong.
They are only similar in the part where both of them ultimately make games 100% gay. A losing formula by shills that want to destroy the competition or retards that don't understand how things work
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>positive change
>all gachas that followed the changes are making less money
>all discussion is bad
>nobody talks about their games in terms of how much they like it but in terms of how much they hate other games or players
>every kusoge protagonist is some variation of brown
>but at least the male main character appears on the screen more than the chicks with fan service, the main reason why anyone would play chink trash
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NIKKEBROS??
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>>1979464
Gacha grail vindicated once again
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[BAD NEWS] Trickcal has been invaded by troonslator. They are using they/them for an obviously female character. This only applies to the English version, as other languages use she/her.
"ED seems to believe that everything around them is merely part of a dream. They don't seem to realize that they are perceiving reality through Nata while remaining asleep. Perhaps ED appears cold at times because they think of the world around them as nothing more than fragments of a dream that will disappear once they wake up."
Source: https://x.com/trickcal_en/status/2035899334676353025
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>>1979563
These devs really should just start using AI and get some intern that speaks a little english to proof read the translation.
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>>1979566
It's funny yet fucked up, you'd think these retards would realize they're first on the chopping block, would clean up their act and troonslate properly. But no, they still pull this retarded shit.
It isn't 2010 anymore, everyone can just see what the main language uses to describe a character in 5 seconds, holy shit.
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Concerns: noted
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[GOOD NEWS] Aniimo is not gacha
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>>1979557
YuriGODS are winning everywhere lately, the devs finally realized where the money comes from.
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>[UNIMPORTANT NON DRAMA]
This fan animator, who has been doing Trickcal stuff for years, was recently commissioned by Stella Sora and Endfield to make some animations as previously reported (alongside many other content creators like ARE).
Epid Games (Trickcal studio) decided to cut the shit and directly hired him so now he only shills Trickcal 24/7
https://youtu.be/qz2AVooT4OU?si=
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GFL2 is made for the male MC
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3.1 was the most successful Wuwa patch and it's a massive middle finger to the ML incels. Spewing revisionism won't change reality.
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>>1979228
>it's dropping again
WUWOOON WUWOOON!!! 3.1 WAS PEAK!!! LUUK HERSEN MARRY ME!!! I LOVE SHIPPING!!!
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kekw
let's add more male characters and shipping
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>>1979528
>Why hasn't hoyo, or kuro, or any other chink gacha that's been slapped with censorship?
They are safe because their designs are safe, maybe Kuro and Mica do a little more, showing some cleavage but that's all, most use the CCP approved spats and Hoyo is hoyo, only ZZZ is a bit more bold because it's outside shanghai (iirc it was Hoyo Singapore or something?).
>also, do you know why that aislopped stopped genning blacked and moved to bestiality?
According to my chinese friend, black men and bestiality are the same, it means that the girl is so low that she fucks disgusting animals instead of your self insert MC.
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>>1979722
>>what the FUCK happened?
See >>1979400
She's also irrelevant meta wise because she powercreeps one of the most whaled character in the game.
And last but not least the devs completely ruined her reveal, trailer and story by putting new shiny characters on them that completely mog Sigrika.
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>>1979528
Genshin ruined Mondstadt to this day because of dumb censorship.
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Pretty sure that after this they got their own official rules on how to design safe horny so it doesn't get another hammer to the head.
Chinkge is cursed unless you accept that as a rule and just consume the porn fanarts.
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You see, MLchads aren't mindless consumers and will drop games that stop pandering to them while femcels will cope for 6 months and act like they won then they get 1 homo. Neglect the male audience and your game dies.
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*hits pipe*
Honestly, I put wuwa's gameplay on the same level as snowbreak from a high level perspective. wuwa does have more impressive enemies, but not really in a good way. So many new enemy types jump and/or fly all over the place and you have no way to chase them.
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>Just stick with gooner gimmick lil bro
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>gameplay
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>>1979791
>wuwa
>organic numbers
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT AHAHAHAHAH
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having to shoot things and use skills is a better foundation than only using skills, they didnt exploit their potential by having fast shooting galleries or anything too crazy but when they tried things it was more enjoyable than every other gacha.
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>romance
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>Gacha Grail abused the DMCA system to take down another asian artist's fanart, impersonating Kuro Games:
https://x.com/soul29969903/status/2035287801474765165
According to the email the artist posted from the individual who DMCA'd them, it is in fact somebodt impresonating Kuro Games, which is a felony:
https://x.com/AlejandroU21051/status/2036101656144761001
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because it's literally a transition
The first game features a male MC only, and people on Twitter complained that there wasn’t an option for a female MC to turn this hentai VN into yuri
so for the second game, which will still feature the same MC, the developers are adding an option for the MC to become trans, turning it into a yuri story if you choose that option
So you always start with a male MC, but you can turn him into a girl later on
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Yea SB has good gameplay, i played it a fair amount when it came out. But it isn't Wuwa quality gameplay, no other gacha is tbf.
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Grailjeets are impersonating kuro by abusing twitter's shitty copyright system
https://x.com/Faker_goodgirl/status/2036089977621344376?s=20
Notice that they're all using outlook as an email
wonder what will kuro do about them since they already took down a commissioned work they paid for while impersonating them
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>>1979852
https://youtu.be/C4mIX90VZp0
https://youtu.be/O90I1R2gLo4
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>BLA BLA BLA BLA
Show your amazing gameplay hoyotrannies, i'll wait.
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>half a million views in less than a day
So this is the power of Trickcal, huh. Quite something...
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“Roco Kingdom” pre-download ranks #1 on free chart. Guess which game will lose players?
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>[BREAKING NEWS] Snowbreak shutdown suspected to be self-directed
“‘Snowbreak: Containment Zone’ server shutdown maintenance is an independent business operation decision; our department is not aware of the specific reasons.” - Government Official
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>>1979878
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Is this the common gameplay, or is this cherrypicked? Many months ago I saw a video of SB's gameplay and it looked really monotonous, but this looks much more bearable. Maybe what I watched was from the starting areas of the game?
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>No gameplay
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>Europoors trying to get the literal EU to censor ZZZ even further along with other games
>Gacha Grail trying to abuse twitter reports to take down yuritroons
>Chink sisters amping up their grudge against anything remotely friendly towards male players
War.
War has changed.
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>>1979921
Pretty easy. You only have to worry about 3 equips that have 3 substats, the third one being a bonus that unlocks when you lvl it to max. You can reroll each individual substat when you max it out too.
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>>1979936
9 more months
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how come wuwa have no memes?
even pgr have something memorable
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>>1979965
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>>1979972
The best part of 3.x has been the side event where you can mix drinks for lupa and she gives you, "the look".
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>>1979977
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I don't even like zzz, or mihoyo games in general, but thats a nice tourist repellent after the disappointment that were the idols. I hear wuwa is releasing one too? Do we have leaks of how she is going to look?
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>>1979994
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>chinese games have no memes
>japanese games have no memes
>gook games have TONS of memes
>chinese and japanese communities have to copy them
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Is everyone in the Ming-Gui (Wuthering Waves Leak) Tieba preparing to quit? It feels like such a waste for Wuthering Waves.
Over this past period, everyone here must have bottled up a lot of frustration; looking at the "doomposting" (sliding) threads in the sub, I can really feel your emotions. But more than the doomposting, what I fear most is the day when there isn't even anyone left to complain—when before long, seven or eight out of ten people have just vanished.
I feel like many Wuthering Waves players play multiple gacha games. When they encounter something bad, they don't speak up or fight back intensely; if they aren't having fun, they just leave quietly and move on to other games. Sigrid’s revenue rank was only 51st, and the active player count has plummeted by 52%. Looking at the data, many people have simply walked away.
The fact that people are still complaining now is only because they still have expectations for the game's future; they hope it can return to how it was two months ago. However, I feel the chances are slim. Once the "mass appeal" (broadening the audience) expansion starts, it can't be stopped. Content was finalized a long time ago—voice acting for version 3.1 started as early as last September. Even if Kuro Games regrets the expansion, it's too late to modify it now.
Content-driven games are hard to pivot. By the time 3.3 comes out, the direction will likely be the same as 3.1, or perhaps even more focused on "daughter-type" (non-romantic) characters. It would take at least half a year or even a year before they could return to the path the game was on two months ago. I don't think everyone can hold out that long; they'll be driven away by a continuous year of expansion content. I'm thinking of leaving myself. It’s a shame—Wuthering Waves was the most male-oriented (ML-centric) gacha game I’ve ever played.
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Same thing really, less normoids means less money, but also more creative freedom. It's a necessary sacrifice to let the devs make the game they so desperately want to make. Our sugar daddies GI and HSR will provide for us.
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>I feel like many Wuthering Waves players play multiple gacha games. When they encounter something bad, they don't speak up or fight back intensely; if they aren't having fun, they just leave quietly and move on to other games
This is what happens when your entire selling point is "were genshin but BETTER", your better graphics and gameplay are on a timer, eventually a new game is gonna come out with even BETTER graphics and even BETTER gameplay
Genshin has their forever players who will never abandon the game, but with stuff like NTE, AP and SP in the future, does Wuwa have that? people that will stick by it instead of playing the newer shinier, smoother thing
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>middle ground
nigga that's like 80% in the safe side. there no tits, no ass, no panties, no bikini, no lewd animation, no lewd story, in fact no romance at all. even at its safest shit like azur lane is 300% more lewd than any shit mihoyo has ever released, even in the peak of HI3 before it got censored.
you are just a retard.
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>>1980050
I would not be surprise if gachas have the biggest drop off after a particularly disappointing patch or a particularly hyped patched.
I have dropped gachas before after rolling for a specific character I was saving for and then thinking to myself "Man... the game kind of sucks."
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That's no even even in the game...
>>1980050
It just released the most filler shit ever, just after the most important story patch ever. Literally no one cares. They released a character who's only importance if for an irrelevant piece of lore (the sun ritual), which was already resolved and made irrelevant in 3.0. The patch involves the "dark side" of the academy (which they just made up 5 minutes before the patch released), which only function is to not stress the students.
Super important!
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>>1980046
>ZZZ dev team is also a huge fan of phaidei duo
The only reason why ML fans are eating good lately in ZZZ is because the game doesn't make a lot of money.
Company earn little money = company stays humble = company caters to core playerbase instead of trying mass appeal = ML fans happy
Company earn big money = company getting arrogant = company caters to wider audience = ML fans disappointed
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>>1980068
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>>1980070
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>I ran into Solon
>Even crazier, he was walking out of the HSR building
>My office is right next to the HSR
>HSR has its own dedicated building
>I'm guessing he's here to have a chat with Da Wei
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>Company earn big money = company getting arrogant = company caters to wider audience = ML fans disappointed
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>>1979991
>wuwa also has stuff you'd never see on a character outside of a model viewer with toggles.
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>>1980097
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realistically, if you compare snowbreak and wuwa to other gacha, you can conclude that there is more "game"play than all the other gachas.
>arknight and limbus
the tippity top of "gameplay" in gachas
>blue archive
raids and metafagging autobattler
>nikke
duckhunter arcade for 2 years +
>genshin
way way way subpar to wuwa,
>hsr
4 niggas in a row
>FGO, GBF
lmao
>gfl2
the piss take of x-com likes, even to reverse bakery
you brownoids can't just compare wuwa,snowbreak and genshin to actual games. At the very least, you can compare it to visual novels
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>>1980122
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I always would call every faggot that would refer to male banners as "good" because you get to save as a fucking retard. Why would I WANT a male banner to save on if I was out of rolls and not a fucking female you retarded faggots.
Promilia will kill literally every mixedslop besides Genshin because the people still playing it are like wowfags pokefags and codfags.
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My favorite reply
>There are actually quite a few gacha games that are more male-oriented than Wuthering Waves; they just aren't as famous or high-budget. The gender war is severe right now—over at Snowbreak, it used to be very male-player friendly, but it got hit with censorship after being reported by the feminist. "Co-existence" between male and female players is almost non-existent in gacha games now; every game has issues, some big and some small, even Honkai: Star Rail.Once Azur Promilia comes out, it’s bound to suck away a massive portion of the male player base. After doomposting for too long, people get tired—and once they’re tired, they just lose interest and stop caring entirely.
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I fucking hate Azur Transmillia, but I hope it releases soon, not because i am going to play it of course because if it does well its gonna make Genshin/WuWa/Endfield faggots seethe really hard but in other hand if it floops I am going to have ammo against c/u/cks for months
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AP is like another mixed toilet to me, I dont give a shit about the game, I hate it but is the type of hate where you really dont want to play the game regardless of is popular or no but i can use it against two communities i hate more and even if the game doesnt floop i can shitpost as a yurifag to make people hate c/u/cks even more
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>>1980142
This happened
turnout people who "play CZN for gameplay" only doing it as filler waiting for STS 2
And then the censorship make waifu crowd abandoned the game
Now only trannies playing the game.
For your mental health don't check CZN discord server it's full with they/them xer/xis creatures who want the dev to make SFW mode of the game because xer partner feels icky.
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>wuwapags really wanna show off with granny panties lmao
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>>1980215
doing the audiosurf clone event in wuwa really drives home how much better 2.x was than 3.x so far. cartethiya's in particular is so fucking good since it gets you remembering one of the highest points in the game. Now we're in 3.x and the music is just generic popslop, and doesn't remind you of any hype moments since there haven't been any.
>but aemeath!
Yeah, her patch had some good songs, but it had too fucking many. Like, holy shit kuro, fucking chill with the vocal tracks. There were, what, 4 different fucking vocal tracks in 3.1? And that last one at the end where the singer was one of the worst engrish speaking ESLs I've heard.
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>>1980215
>show off loli granny panties
>get btfo
>b-but we have normal panties on a single character from one year ago thats also a hag, hoyo could never
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*blows smoke in your face*
Did you just blow in from stupid town? I said kuro is going overboard with trying to cram music into the game because they want to manufacture that streamer soiface moment over and over and over. The music isn't as good and the moment they're attached to aren't as good either.
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[SAD NEWS]
Yurifags are so PISSED by how blatantly obnoxious they're ""represented"" in Star Savior that they're now falseflagging as MLGODS to tell people to avoid the game
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>>1980246
uh huh, uh huh.
so can you see her ass? let's see how well it's modeled.
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>>1980253
I take it that's the best you can do.
So you can't even see the shape of her ass.
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>captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain captain
something tells me most of the game's text is just that word truly an ml game
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Yeah, too much shit that requires leeching wallets dry is popping up. Trying to hit a broad audience is a fools errand, and you can only go so niche before you end up not being able to run shit.
This is assuming a 3D gacha of course, if it's PNG slop then you could go as niche as you want to guarantee a small stream of income at least.
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>are you doubling down on being retarded?
No, I'm making sure you're not retarded
It's a good ass shape, I consneed.
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it's about time game devs take risks and really try to be unique and hope that people think their product is actually cool as hell. probably the only way for devs who have no well established name behind them.
but that has it's limits too. CZN was kinda a breath of fresh air gameplay wise yet it failed too and has lost all steam. we'll see how things shape up with AP and NTE.
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Definitely not wuwa.
[Player Intent Survey]
After the Wuthering Waves "controversy", which game are you moving to?
>Wuthering Waves (Staying): 21% (1115 votes)
>Azur Promilia: 16% (824 votes)
>Neverness to Everness (NTE): 13% (702 votes)
>Genshin Impact: 11% (574 votes)
>Arknights: Endfield: 6% (297 votes)
>Roco Kingdom Mobile: 5% (259 votes)
>Honor of Kings: World: 4% (215 votes)
>Zenless Zone Zero: 2% (127 votes)
>Honkai: Star Rail: 2% (98 votes)
>Others: 20% (1065 votes)
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>Hank Hill ass
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>>1980298
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>>1980306
It has the same "train a girl" mechanic of uma without the downside of trannies trying to claim every character is gay, plus it has fanservice.
They're handing out a fuckton of free rolls so the gacha addicts are satisfied (it helps that a hyper stingy gacha game just released a month ago to compare with).
Ultimately it depends on whether you care about 4 niggas in a row gameplay.
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[UPDATED] App Store Ranking
[ZZZ]
Nangong Yu (NEW)
CN: #18
JP: #10
KR: #11
Aria
CN: #18 / #31
JP: #10 / #13
KR: #11 / #11
[Wuwa]
Sigrika
CN: #43
JP: #28
KR: #17
Luuk
CN: #35
JP: #18
KR: #17
[Genshin]
Skirk (rerun)
CN: #6
JP: #14
KR: ???
[Endfield]
Tangtang
CN: #9
JP: #9
KR: #11
[HSR]
Sparxie
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JP: #1
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Female Azur Lane player complains that, now, Azur Lane is too oriented towards male players
That the recent chapters of the manga aimed too much towards male players
And unhappy that in island planer mode (3D chibi mode) you can only play as a male commander
And said that wasn't the case before
>I really loved the fact, when the game came out, it was not solely aimed at a male audience.
>In the story chapters there is still no set gender for the commander.
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>>1980335 (me)
the latest manga chapter
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>>1980323
Based sisterfucker.
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>>1979055
>Announce 3.2 is a filler patch
>Release the most NPC looking character so far
>Also requires a male no one rolled for on the team to unlock her full potential
Honestly, what the fuck did they expect?
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>>1980348
Nice ML game kek.
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More like we don't want to be compared with garbage, unless you're making money off of it like ShyGuyHigh and Arukika that make a career on YT off of humiliating Genshit daily.
At least ZZZ looks decent with the proper angle, Gayshit is a game that still looks the same it did in 2018-9 CBT footage.
Don't disrespect Wuwa by asking it to be compared to such low effort garbage that still releases archons with E>Q bot kits and worse animations than an enemy in Wuwa.
Know your place
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It's amusing how you xisters think you somehow own the industry when you are the parasites killing it. Keep ignoring your flops, maybe that will help.
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>Bitching about clones when they're literally nothing more than a Zelda clone
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>>1979079
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This has to be the worst 2d to 3d I have ever seen in my life and I've been gaming since nes era
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>>1980418
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Are we playing?
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>>1978953
On a more serious post, genshin really fucked the gacha market and even now while it's still do better than most, on all metrics gacha are slowly going back becoming a more niche genre the increase of popularity due to covid is really waning out, and since all big release worked by being 'foty'.
Gacha work in the long term with dedicated fanbase, AL,GF,FGO,BA all of these will remain fine, but for the big gacha the bleeding in players count and thus spending will only accelerate with time, in years still, but clearly the market show no sign of bouncing back
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And to add on that, of course they won't outright die, but the big gacha re obviously more costly to maintain, to produce patch and content for, and for most gacha I mentioned making low revenue isn't that big of a deal, since the content and cost to maintain is lower. But for the 3D/Open world type I wonder how it's going to play out
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>wuthering faces
>In actually WuWa faces look completley distinct, even with characters sharing the same model type
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>>1980404
You're so afraid of me you can't even directly reply hoyotranny. Good to see that you know your place.
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>>1980414
Wuwa is the only game that does perfect 2D to 3D after all. But Velina looks much better in 3D anyway.
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>>1980440
Fibi chupi cheeks were made to be bullied, jesus.
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>>1980453
>It's chad behavior to violate the 1st ammendment to censor people just because you don't like them
>it's chad behavior to commit a felony by impersonating a company to file false DMCA strikes
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OH NO NO NO ML BROS? GRAIL BROS? WHAT IS THIS? I THOUGHT KURO WAS ON OUR SIDE
https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/2036382523165380832
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>>1980461
>Lol you got real mad huh ? Keep coping retard. No one wants your ugly Yuri sloppa. Not even Kuro
Kuro claims to have nothing to do with it, it's already been proven to be false DMCAs using outlook emails (which a company like Kuro would never use), and now Kuro says they're investigating and plan to take action. You are fucked
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>>1980451
Soon to be dead.
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>>1980463
For real. Reminder retarded femcels were mass dmcaing Male Rover art for years. Now they're getting pissy they're getting their medicine. It's time to dominate these retards and kick them out of the fandom. Gatekeeping is needed for a reason lest you have an infestation of homos, women, and trannies in your space
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>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T HECKING DMCA US THAT'S ILLEGAL!!!
It's afraid
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>>1980477
YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED MLCHUD IN 5 YEARS KURO WILL SUE YOU
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Imagine actually believing the grail losers are behind this when they can't even save their ML games from femcels lmao.
I wonder who's truly behind this, very hard to guess.
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>>1980473
>>1980474
Are you actually retarded enough to think commiting FELONIES becaues you don't like people using their first ammendment right to make artwork is smart let alone respectiable? You are not only retarded you are also un-American.
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>There's are unironic sisters here mad about the DMCA
lmao wtf
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>>1980485
Why aren't you using that pathetic limpdick energy for leaks as well? They're committing bigger hecking felonies
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>>1980481
>>1980486
You cannot genuinely be this fucking retarded holy shit, do you actually want to get a billion dollar corpo putting you in court? Do you actually realize how beyond fucked you niggers are?
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>>1980487
They don't even need to do that, they can take action against Twitter and force them to stop allowing false DMCA's in their name, then you retards can't do anything lmao. That's the BEST outcome for you btw.
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>do you actually want to get a billion dollar corpo putting you in court?
Thanks for the good laugh anon
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>>1980470
Correct. Yuritards have been mass reporting straight artists for years.
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>You are not only retarded you are also un-American
>Do you actually realize how beyond fucked you niggers are?
>That's the BEST outcome for you btw.
>You
>You
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Are there actually schizophrenics that think all the people that do these things are the same people here?
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>everyone celebrating this is from some third world country
>neo nazi, lives in SEA
What did he mean by this?
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All this unprompted seethe about some irrelevant Xitter group makes it seem like they raped your mother or something.
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>>1980504
>wuwa losing everywhere but India
Thank you Indian GODS for sticking with mingchao through thick and thin
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BREAKING: SAINTONTAS IS NOW COVERING THE DMCA STRIKES, AND HE'S NOT ON GACHA GRAIL'S SIDE
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>>1980550
And it got bigger by having a story and the franchise itself allows character interaction and official ships that don't involve a self insert mc. Proof if you want a porn game of romancing girls you should play that but gacha games need to have more than that to succeed and make money.
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>>1980552
>by having a story
The visual novel already had a story and it was better than FGO's simply because it had a beginning and an end already planned from the start. FSN still has cultural relevance to this day.
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>Saintontas mocking Pokke's youtube views and saying he makes 5 bucks a video
>Meanwhile on his social blade
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>>1979989
>"tourists arent ready"
ok but tourists only roll Void Hunters
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>>1980581
that peak? all her
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What site are people using for this? What does the G mean?
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>>1980493
Because you're a disgusting brown jeet that sexualizes Aemeath with Rover.
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Nice ML game, homos!
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>>1980605
Your straight male savior, sire
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>>1980605
>He thinks FGO doesn't have this kind of ML too.
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>>1980596
ZZZ is a gooner game, nobody actually cares about lolis there. Even ridiculously meta lolis with no actual substitute for their role flop. They really tried this year. Went all in, even ramped up powercreep specifically to force them. Still, all 5 flopped. It's just not going to work. Ever.
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>Roco Kingdom censored because too many people were running around naked
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>>1980615
>no wonder waifufags are leaving and switching to zzz
LOL
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>>1980663
>add ability to take off your character's clothes and walk around naked
>shocked that people actively do this and have fun walking around nakedThis is probably just a subtle way to see if selling bikini cosmetics would work or not.
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Why do guys keep posting Saintontas's shit?
I don't wanna see his ugly face T_T
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>>1980676
>Because he's right 99%
>.t Saintontas
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>no wonder waifufags are leaving and switching to zzz
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Wuwabros are not taking their all time low and shipping pandering well.
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>>1980605
Sir please delete this sir, wuwon sir, please delete sir
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>>1980697
No one would click it, if it was a twitter link
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>Still more ML than wuwa btw.
No ML player would ever self-insert into this loser.
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>More ML
LMAO
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caelus won.
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wise won.
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male rover wo-ACKKKKKK
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>>1980751
Sitting in the chair for the past 5 years
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Can someone explain why Lucilla looks at Luuk in the same way Changli used to look at Rover?
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You know, despite being famous for a mixed toilet company, mihomo does not promote transitioning
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>>1980726
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>>1980725
All hoyoshit MCs combined wish they had 10% the ML energy of Rover.
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>nooo my game is ML
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Good morning sirs please redeem wuwon
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>>1980761
Anon, I dont play mihomo games, Rover used to look like the Solo Leveling MC and now he talks and acts like a fucking faggot >>1980605
and he even dance like a fucking homo just like Aether https://youtu.be/Ro_99bC2yL4 the game become what you hated most, another omnipandering kusoge and (you) become another massive shill for a company that spites in your fucking face just like mihoyodrones used to be
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>>1980771
And (you) were born brown and mentally ill as a consequence. No, the MC can't win all the time, that's not how proper storytelling works. But sadly you're of such lower caste that you can't even understand 3.1 and the whole point of Lahai-Roi for Rover as a character.
Never reply to me again and certainty never used Changli in your posts again, freakoid.
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>[CHIBI FUCKER NEWS]
Trickcal has become the most ML game in the market. It wasn't even hard, the competition is just that bad at it
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>>1980777
I know but i hate when fucking retards try to say the recent content has the same pandering that 1.x 2.x had
>>1980780
Yeah that is why now Rover is now a Mihomo MC, a faggot that flirts with male characters and has platonic and fatherly interaction with female characters, just what modern audiences love enjoy xister!!!!
>>1980754
Unironically I ask myself what would be the reaction of the people if in the changli patch she was interacting with another male character in the way lucilla interacts with luuk? ask yourselves that question Kuroshills
>>1980785
and this is true again
>>1980786
And can you explain to me why that has anything to do with Kuro making Rover flirt with a male character and making him look like a complete faggot while dancing? why he has to flirt with Lucilla and Sigrika too? and you really should appreciate Changli and Carthy because you are never getting a character like them in a long time, but be happy you are getting more characters like Luuk in the future :)
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>>1980787
*hits pipe*
For the moment, wuwa is still ML. However, this anon is correct in that the feminists that have infiltrated kuro, and their simps, will slowly move wuwa away from ML more and more until rover is just another actor on the stage instead of the star character.
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>>1979094
>open worldslop
>no gooner bait
>no one gives a shit about the franchise
>typical nothing ever happens openslop story
>1/10th of factorio included in the game for more chores
Who were they trying to appeal exactly? I'm baffled by the slant eyed ricecels' inability to actually write a catchy, high stakes, soulful story when all they do is endless babble about nothing.
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>>1980796
all me btw
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>>1980827
>yurige
Let's say, hypothetically, I pick male mc and coop with someone that picked fem mc. if I use the hug interaction on the fem mc, does the fem mc player become, for me?
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MAJOR UPDATE ON POKKE VS SAINT LAWSUIT:
TL'DR: the judge has approved for Pokke's lawsuit to go to court, all of the clips of Saint that he's compiled will now be played in a court of law. Saint is fucked, his only hope was this being thrown out before reaching a courtroom.
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>>1980848
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>>1980857
I predict NTE and ananta will end up in a dating mechanic arms race to the point at least one of them will end up having to increase their age rating.
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>>1980864
That doesn't mean anything you retarded ass ship schizo. Male MC will be the canon option as always. Femc is for slut trannoids. Be prepared to cry when Male MC's harem is shown and the femc can only beg at his feet.
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>>1980868
Keep seething and dilate you ugly trannoid. Gscha grail is improving the gacha community space by filtering out retards like you. Keep coping as your ugly ass yuri art gets taken down like it should. Find Jesus you fucking cuck
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>>1980864
>trailer where the male MC was revealed has him pouring a cup of coffee for a woman and her acting smitten, as well as another woman in line.
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>>1980870
KEEK OF COURSE. These retarded ass trannoids can't handle the fact the Male MC will get all the actual pandering. Femc is just there to bait yuritards so we can filter them out of the game. It's going to be glorious
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>wuwa has had the most uninspired designs since 3.x started.
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>>1980985
NTA but Solo Leveling is fucking ass man. Chink Korea Jap Wuxia-SL/Isekai slop is slop for a reason.
Tension is important for any work and usually setbacks are something that exist in many stories to set up further tensions and climaxes.
Even Dante gets his ass beat by Vergil to set things up in DMC3.
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>>1980984
Stella Sora isn't an inspired game, it's actual slop.
CZN's gameplay loop is not good and is getting worse every patch. That's what they get for copying Mihomo shit without considering how it'd fit into their game.
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>>1981014
This guy's right, no one should be playing a gacha and expecting a good story.
We'd be in a better place if these games just hired some harem/self-fulfillment slop writers off the internet instead of femcels and people who think they're the next Tolkien.
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>>1981038
jesus christo, mang. look at how this feminine motherfucker recoils. does zzz guy ever get to look cool in his own game?
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>>1981024
Actually I haven't even tried GF(L)2. Not trying an actual gacha game.
Not much sense since the gameplay is ass and the story doesn't sound good. And even if it did, it would be better to have years upon years of it for me to read before consuming.
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>>1981024
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>Implying I would EVER touch arkniggs
Insulting.
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[UPDATED] App Store Ranking
>HSR
Ashveil (NEW)
CN: #26
JP: #10
KR: #23
Sparxie
CN: #13
JP: #1
KR: ???
>ZZZ
Nangong Yu
CN: #18
JP: #7
KR: #11
Aria
CN: #31
JP: #13
KR: #11
>Wuwa
Sigrika
CN: #43
JP: #28
KR: #17
Luuk
CN: #35
JP: #18
KR: #17
>Genshin
Skirk (rerun)
CN: #6
JP: #14
KR: ???
>Endfield
Tangtang
CN: #9
JP: #9
KR: #11
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>>1981090
>males doing better than the newest handholding ML targeted waifu
What is going on with WuWa? Both Asveil and Luuk are doing significantly better than Sigrika. Didn't she have enough handholding for you to spam peak everywhere?
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>>1980569
for a man obsessed with stats, dunno why he lies even for that
also what vid, what's going on between the two these days with the lawsuit. How raped is saintontas these days from the entire gacha space slowly fucking him
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>>1981092
they sabotaged by cumdump cipher...
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>>1981113
>play wuwa saar, very ML saar
>they remove yuri video saar
>kuro can't tolerate ships other than the main characters saar
I wonder how wuwa ML fags will cope this time
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>>1981113
Nice ML game wuwabro, your company now directly supports non mc shipping.
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>>1981124
do ingame messages count?
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>>1981130
That's just making fun of yuritroons
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>Zoo of all things
>Preaching about ML
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>>1981144
But hoyopags are still incapable of playing wuwa though? Their PCs would immediately implode after all. So the seething must continue.
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>>1981152
>vandalized
It really isn't.
Amy is a platonic daughter, voice actors, voice direction, the entire fanbase beside indojeets see her as daughter figure.
Siggy got shipping both with Luuk and Denia.
Danjin got shipped with Calchud during official stream
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Hoyopags dont play wuwa because they are jealous of the ml but also they are cucks and they love getting cucked but also they cant even play wuwa because their computers are bad but also they are brainwashed and they will never play other games other than hoyo games
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>>1981155
wuwon could never
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>jealous of wuwa ML
Show me a Wuwa character trailer like these
https://youtu.be/oCcNiUZ5ogU?si=peKnUl3BrTBbw5ND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAuK8T6Xis
Wait nvm you have that danjin "fanmade" video AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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wuwon would never
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>>1981166
>in quotation marks
De"lulu" xister
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>>1981166
cute prostitute
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>>1981169
please understand sirs, we can't make trailer with male rover only
we can't let male rover have physical contact with female characters in our trailers because we must respect the feeling of our female players and employees unlike zzz and hsr
think of our kuroxisters sirs
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>[SAD NEWS] Losing ML Support, Kingsoft Online Games Q4 Revenue Plunges 33% YoY
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>>1981190
>snowbreak made up 33% of kingsoft's revenue
And xisters will tell you that ML doesn't sell.
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