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Your source of the juiciest dramas about gacha games. Anything goes---your sentiment about the gacha industry, schizo takes, conspiracy theories, MTL screenshots from obscure Chinese forums, or just random gacha related topics that don't fit in a specific general.
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AP
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>>1986478
Won
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>>1986219
feels like eons ago
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Not just standing but thriving. Game is roughly at the same level of revenue as global launch, which is really rare. Plus I heard there's merch being made, so they'll likely make much more, even if not reflected in the memecharts.
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buckbroken
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KILLS MIHOMO
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CEO of COPE
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fag
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>>1986502
Any more cherrypicked comparisions?
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>>1986480
im literally only going to play this shit for luruka
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>>1986526
>c-cope more fag
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>>1986541
I like them
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>>1986560
Wuwa will be fine.
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>>1986561
hating picrel is a million times more hood weeb than hating the chinky wuxia faces of wuwa
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Xhe can't stop seething, huh?
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Literally all they had to do was continue to do what they were doing with 2.x by making hot characters that show lots of tits (Cantarella) or feet (Fleurdelys) and are for (You).
Instead they did the opposite of that and now it's flopping. Big surprise.
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>>1986574
sure thing chang
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wuwa has until the end of the month to turn things around otherwise I'm jumping ship to NTE
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>>1986471
>Revenue down by 15% (been that way for a while)
>Downloads up by 10% (same thing)
What does this mean?
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>>1986471
>gacha revenue website owner speaks up
"I am genuinely worried about Wuthering Waves future when games like NTE are releasing".
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>>1986604
*hits pipe*
I've been a wuwer since day one and i've always thought of wuwa as, like, a stop gap before the next generation of gachashit like ananta. It pushes production value harder than any other gacha right now, but it's still following all the genre conventions as a gacha release 5 or even 10 years ago. NTE is looking to be the first of the new gen gachas that are trying to do things differently. wuwa is going to have to evolve or diminish more and more as the newer, more innovative gachas start releasing.
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>>1986604
I wonder why.
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Wuwa consists of employees who were fired from Mihoyo for being too gay for their standards.
Blacked Bacon is one of the games these 'people' envision. Wuwa was also the same shade of faggotry on release and it was Tencent who saved their gay ass from bankruptcy (twice)
Thay take everything Da Wei does, copy it, but make everything two times gayer, then release.
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>Wuwa consists of employees who were fired from Mihoyo for being too gay for their standards.
You are into something, lets compare the fanservice of the female characters on release date:
>Genshit
Jean
Keqing
Mona
Barbara
Beidou
Amber
Sucrose
Noelle
Ningguang
Fischl
Lisa
Xiangling
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Yinlin
Jianxin
Verina
Baizhi
Chixia
Danjin
Sanhua
Taoqi
Yangyang
If we take the most sexiest characters at that point it would be, Genshit: Mona, Lisa, Keqing and Noelle, meanwhile the most "sexiest" in WuWa would be: Taoqi, Yinling and Yangyang and maybe Verina?, what i want to say that even something so fucking turbo gay like genshin which first banner was a fucking trap at LEAST had a character like Mona in release date, meanwhile WuWa didn't had anything like that
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>cultural phenomenon
reminder not a single characters from wuwa, mihoyo and arknight show up in the captcha.
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Alright gacha gang, huddle up.
I've watched several reviews of the latest NTE beta and the consensus is very positive overall. It's looking like gacha gaming is going to have a major shake up in a few weeks. How do we make sure hoyo stays on top?
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Fasten your fucking seatbelts, we're on our way to kill every mixed sloppa
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>>1986642
>How do we make sure hoyo stays on top?
Nte doesnt need kurojeet copes because its a sovlful game that will do well with ensouled people, your game just sucks lmao
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I don't want my future gacha to become a fuel for tribalfags...i want to play and discuss the game in peace...
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>>1986654
A wise choice.
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Hopefully he doesn't show in AP's main story otherwise i'll be mad.
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>collabing with a mixed toilet
MLkeks...
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>>1986690
What game am I shilling Spatsbro?
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>>1986650
Too late. I watched several livestreams on Bilibili during the first CBT and 90% of the livechats were Hoyo vs Kuro.
>>1986670
Good news is that the chinks don't like it and are planning to send feedback.
>>1986677
AP was already targeted by both feminists and ML tieba in 2024 during the high of ML movement.
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>no pantyshot even in fanart
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>[BREAKING NEWS]
Kuro games made an official post regarding the partnership with Liu Cixin and rumors of him writing and helping with wuwa's world building/lore/story.
We look forward to collaborating with scholars from the Beijing Yuanyu Science Fiction Future Technology Research Institute to create science fiction works together.
Furthermore, regarding the recent false information and rumors fabricated by some accounts on the internet, such as "Mr. Liu Cixin will serve as the world-building architect for products under Kuro Games," we hereby issue the following clarification:
Kuro Games has not reached any cooperation agreement with Mr. Liu Cixin as rumored. All online claims of cooperation with Mr. Liu Cixin are fabricated. We urge all players and media not to spread or believe rumors, and to refer to official announcements for any cooperation information.
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https://youtu.be/8QtWJYHmxA0
So you get a skin without it, unlike rover who only has an even gayer crop top jacket
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>>1986604
shitposting aside
>worried about a 1500 employee company making $10 million+ in monthly revenue not being sustainable
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>>1986743
$10 mil/month USD for 1500 is more than sustainable in China
this also implies $100 mil USD/year and that is a gross underestimation considering all their MOBILE revenue estimations are above this for almost every month
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10 million/month is likely the floor and worst case scenario unless they do something insane and even then this is only mobile revenue
even if they average 15 mil USD/month across all platforms that is still 150 mil yearly for 1500 employees in a Chinese company
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>>1986740
Recently, Tencent's answer to Pokemon & Palworld flopped BIGLY so things aren't looking good.
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>>1986748
>one guy says it's topping the charts
>another guy says it flopped
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>hey the girls in SP looks cute lemme look it u-
>rollable males
aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnd skipped.
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>Tencent's answer to Pokemon & Palworld flopped BIGLY
Anon I...
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>genshin: genshin
>nte: genshin with gta elements
>ap: genshin with monster collector elements
>sp: genshin on ue5
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>>1986767
if I am looking for gameplay I will just boot up my PC to play a real action game
gachas are always characters first, any gameplay they have will always be watered down copies of better games because of the limiting touch screen controls.
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>Gayteo
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>saaaarrs pull out the Discord screenshots saaarss
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>>1986502
It was datamined a long while back, but they actually made a wet texture model for Carlotta and just never used it, or did the same for any other character for whatever reason.
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ap beta in literally 1 day
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>turdies don't understand sarcasm
is appmagic controlled by discord troons too?
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1. App Magic, Sensor Tower, Game-idaa numbers are all estimation.
2. How do they estimate the numbers? They estimate the numbers based on iOS and Play Store rankings.
3. That means, higher ranking = higher numbers estimation.
4. Last month, wuwa rankings were mediocre compared to other big gachas.
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Here's last month iOS rankings
1. LADS
CN: #3 (on 29th March)
2. Genshin
Skirk (rerun)
CN: #6
JP: #14
KR: ???
3. HSR
Sparxie / Ashveil
CN: #13 / #26
JP: #1 / #7
KR: ??? / #23
4. Endfield
Tangtang / Rossi
CN: #9 / #25
JP: #9 / #5
KR: #11 / #18
4. ZZZ
Aria / Nangong Yu
CN: #31 / #18
JP: #13 / #7
KR: #11 / #11
5. WuWa
Sigrika / Luuk
CN: #43 / #35
JP: #28 / #18
KR: #17 / #17
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AP just dropped a 16 min vid on what's new in cbt 2
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nK97BDEn8/
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Nte will create a paradigm shift
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>>1986809
The opposite of what you hoyopags do. We open the game and compare it to the garbage you play. Meanwhile you never show a single gameplay footage and just talk about pointless metrics that have nothing to do with your slop being good games.
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>>1986822
Imagine still acting like this in your 30s
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>Cool story, then post gameplay. Oh wait, you won't because you would be immediately humiliated LMAO.
Come back when you have a real cultural impact, jamboy
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>No argument
>No gameplay
Yep go back to screeching how much money your devs make while they shit in your mouth for another month.
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Jamboy melting down kekkkkkkk
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>Sun Ho Yu is seething
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why do i need to post gameplay to prove that i play what i like?
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>cultural impact
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>>1986842
We don't need to a piggyback ride from a notorious CCP shill for relevancy like you, and even that's fake news made up for clicks
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As long as you know the shit you like is so bad you can't even post a single comparison outside of meme mobile numbers that never get reinvested back into your game anyway that's all that matters.
I know that deep down you all know your place, that's why /vmg/ barely goes to /wuwa/ even though it seethes about it every single day of the year due to inferiority complex. Because you know you would get immediately humiliated.
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Lo and behold, ye of palid cover, a new chapter in this battle waged by the ancient fecal dwellers, the Pajeets, versus their mortal enemies, the fearsome Pagpags, of trash eating origins. 'Tis one in countless found over a millennia of revenoo warfare, and hatred of one another, despite how alike!
Hear, o' ye made of milk, thou treadest into hostile lands, filled with malice, deceit and confusion. Leave, else thine soul ought to blacken and reflect on thine flesh, turning the clean indistinguishable from the scourge that infects what once were lush green lands!
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>keep coping
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>jamboy still mad
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no way a women design this
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>that's why /vmg/ barely goes to /wuwa/
/wuwa/ on 4chan is dead tho. All your posters ran off to the alt chan that's ran by a ZZZ janny... The most loyal wuwaposters are sucking some hoyotranny's dick...
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Looks like they added churl adjacent enemies beside some kibos.
Rapechads can't stop winning.
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>best designs are all 4*
It's OVER
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>male mc bros(singular)
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New revenue chart just dropped
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Stix/comments/1s9pule/gacha_revenue_monthly_r eport_march_2026_and/
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are "real" wuwaniggers that dumb? do they not realize /vmg/ still uses wuwa as a representative for ML pandering? People here only shit on it because they're invested. Yes, /vmg/ is basically keeping /wuwa/ alive, we ARE there.
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Those revenue charts etc are the last thing they have to compare the shit games they play with wuwa. When it comes to graphics, character design, combat, gacha system and lore their games are already dead and Hoyoverse keeps trying their best to make those games even worse and more predatory. These revenue charts, which have like 0 credibility, have become their safe space
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>>1986905
You think you got better jam, jamboy?
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>He says while playing flash tier garbage like R1999 or FGO
Ok lil bro, wtv you say.
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>playing flash tier garbage like R1999 or FGO
Sold more than you ever could
Will stay around longer than you ever will
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FUCK Homoverse! All of our players are playing on PC! The game is doing great and is NOT on a decline! There is no credible chart that tracks decl-
April 02, 2026.
Today marks the day of all time low.
https://steamdb.info/app/3513350/charts/#max
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>>1986912
Stop flopping like bad jam then, jamboy
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And it will never improve as a """game""".
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>Again, these are projections, estimated by a few dudes in a discord. They don’t actually have any legal method to accurately track revenue for any of these companies. They employ social-engineering to try and get you to believe their charts
>Solon doesn't aim for record earnings, he just wants to perform at his best.
>it doesnt matter we have official news that Wuwa is nimber 1 on PC and who the fqack cares about some not official revenue data
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GODtontas status?
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>>1986924
Thriving like always. Why does a CC like him thrive so much to the point you think about him daily while not even playing wuwa? Because deep down you know he is right, deep down you know wuwa is better. Actions speak louder than words.
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>who the fuck is Sun Ho Yu
>googles
KEKKKKKK
Saint is a fucking chink? I thought he was a SEAjeet
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Chink shills hate this!
It's the revenue chart without the made up chinese bonus.
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>no cn mult
GrailGODS
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wuwon again
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how is it that azur lane makes so much more than gfl2? both are just lobby simulators in which you ogle the newest skin you bought, with no gameplay or story to speak of.
is it because azur lane skins are that much cheaper? or because it also releases other modes like the daughter rising sim and the chibi farm?
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OOFF
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>>1986970
azur lane has this
gfl doesnt
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To be fair Stygian Onslaught is by far the most unfun fucking shit they've ever added to Genshin, it's like they took the worst parts of ZZZ and HSR endgame modes and put them together in one unholy package of bullshit.
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Nah, imaginarium theater is easily the worst endgame i have ever played in any action rpg gacha ever, i dread every time i have to do. Almost quit multiple times because of it, utter vile garbage game mode that just gets worst with each new iteration.
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stella sora won
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>>1987011
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Jpbro are currently promoting Stella Sora as a yuri gacha
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>>1986943
>nikke still showing no signs of falling off
Maybe i should go back to nikke
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>brownoid melty hours
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>barebones
I'd call it grounded tbdesu. I prefer combat that is simple but every hit feels punchy(MH, fromgames, yakuza), this also allows another aspect of the game to take the spotlight like you spend 99% of your time using guns and driving vehicles in GTA.
I know chinese are obsessed with dmc style combat since there's no end of dmc references in their games but combining it with swap mechanic on top of mobile limitations kills what actually makes dmc fun in the first place.
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>SBR
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>hey, how's that BA killer goi- oh...
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[SAD NEWS] Ruby, one of the newly introduced characters in Azur Promilia, wears spats
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>>1986877
Massive WuWon exposing just how biased and fake the normally posted gacha revenue chart is. This is the only true chart and anyone saying anything else is just a hater coping over the fact that WuWa is destroying all their shitty games.
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>completely humiliates her while everyone watches
>absolutely dominant position
>makes a shitty pun
>even stole her looks
>still fingers her hole right then and there
one step away from turning her over, holding her down, and telling (us) to enact punishment
https://x.com/Mochi_Trickcal/status/2039645356527682010
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>>1987147
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>>1987039
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>>1987152
Good shirt yeah
>>1987155
Considering he released TWO more highly hyped Eldynes in the 2.5, but gave away 600 rolls for free, probably never. The mega SOVLfull video with the name of every player, and full animation of every important story event wasn't cheap either.
He also flew the JP VAs to korea to record the half anniversary videos too.
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Explain why Shift up can make Stellar Blade but doesn't use those people to make a triple A 3D open world ARPG where the characters can finally be sexualized properly? Why are the Chinks the only ones allowed to do that?
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>saint bots his views to almost always be in the 10-15k range for 95% of his vids, proof founded by skullcj
>pokke trying his fucking hardest to milk the already bone dry cow that is hsr of the 0 content it has with shit like v1 or 2 characters doing endgame, f2p account that account managers play instead of him or 30 anomaly arbitration vids, views are varied all over the place but also mostly low
I'm not sure what slop is better, one that is shit at every gacha he touches with trash opinions or a fake chink hype man trying to find anything to do in a gacha game with its already limited content while anything not hsr flops.
Pokke has literally been 194-195k subs for nearly a full year while saint at least gains more jeets to his army almost hitting 100k before the drama with him turning into a doxxing stalker lolcow made him lose a few thousand subs and viewers on all platforms
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>[FUNNY NEWS] In an unnoticed corner, ZZZ is about to join Wuwa in flying chart ranking again
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>>1986999
nta but as someone that autistically does the guaranteed power that is talent levels and max level or an ascension behind (70 for some games 80 in others) I cannot fucking imagine a new player that's only a year or two in being able to do IT
Not enough you need 28 characters past level 70 and decently built to clear stuff but also have enough random artifacts from generalist sets like noblesse emblem or cinder city to hopefully make those supports actually do their job and even pump out a tiny bit of damage while buffing hopefully whatever main dps you rolled in IT and get to use for 2 whole stages out of 12.
Some of the rotations are easy cause of being graced with good elements but then you get shit like anemo geo or dendro anemo for some fucking reason due to them trying to shill reruns
>Cryo dendro in one of the rotations last year so they made an entirely new out of the blue reaction in rimegrass just to make that IT not too much of a brick
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>>1987182
It's a straight white man thing, you wouldn't understand.
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>Wuwa higher than genshin
>ios estimates say that it did 4x worse
>steam charts show it at their lowest
>adding steam sales when its a mobile chart
>wuwa made between 28m and 70m in an entire year on steam, 2.5 to 6 million a month
>adds steam but doesnt bump limbus who has 5x the players
>no other sources
>5m ios + 6m steam = 49m because that how much money the top games make on gacha revenue so xim has to match
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That chart was made by a single female lmao. Not even the most delusional wuwadrone would believe wuwa did well last month when it was a homo banner and skiprika. Though i would like the schizos behind the gachagaming chart to explain to me how gi made so much money from a homo with a complete garbage kit and reruns.
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>use your feelings to explain to me how things make money
No retard, if the app stores say that gi made >20 million and wuwa >5 million then its not a giant leap to 2x the revenue of every game and conclude that genshin did 40m and wuwa did 10. Unlike the kurobot chart making a game that officially made 4 times less be at the top with no sources or justifications given
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Mihoyo's AC clone is about to have 2nd CBT and no one cares? What's going on?
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BASADO
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>>1987240
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>jeets think they are above spaniards
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>>1987234
LOL LMAO
Delusional spic, come back to me when that slop looks half as good as picrel.
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>>1987275
Define spastic. I don't think you've ever played the game since it generally requires very strict rotations that are anything BUT spastic, but go ahead, define what is spastic and how exactly wuwa feels like that.
Next, I want you to give an example of a gacha game that ISN'T spastic according to your definition, all in less than 300 words, thank you.
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>>1987275
>Wuwa is so "noun that means nothing" how can anyone like it?!?!
>E>Q>E>Q>E>Q>Spam normals for 5 secs
>Now this is gameplay!!!
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>>1987286
Wuwa has perfect dodges, parries, actual quickswap, every single character has a proper rotation and kit. Pretty much Wuwa has skill expression, unlike GI that is just a rotation slop with color match for toddlers to feel smart about.
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>>1987290
That's all you hoyopags have had for the past 2 years lmao. It's like bullying a toddler.
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It's time to accept that all chinese gachas are slop.
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>>1987297
Still waiting for the definition of spastic.
This anon is so retarded if you showed him some true combos or freestyle with Vergil in DMC5 he'll say its casual slop because the game only uses 4 buttons (same as wuwa)
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do you believe genshin has no rotations? i dont play hoyo games btw, im just saying genshin players have never said their game was on par with real combat games, wuwa players believe so despite playing a shitty p2w chinese gacha. If wuwatards cared about gameplay and skill expression they would be playing pvp games, and they wouldn't be posting cutscene spam as examples of deep gameplay
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Hoyo is pretty much the AAA of gacha gaming. Hope that's clear enough for you bro. The more open world games that come out the more blatant it becomes. EF is made with Unity like Hoyo games btw, the discrepancy in graphical fidelity, animations and story presentation is so high that i can only laugh.
Lowest effort for the highest gain. Greedy otakus save the world.
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>>1987319
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>>1987318
Not yet. The server will be open at 11:00 AM (China Time) but the chinese players already prepared apology letter for having low DPS in the multiplayer mode.
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Inside or outside of the game, the quality is just not the same.
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It's one of the most played gacha on the planet? Are you delusional or perhaps think gacha started in 2020 and there's a total of 20 gachas? But then again you people believe Da Wei created most things in the universe so it's not a stretch.
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>>1987353
And i did just that. Wuwa is my AP waiting room, didn't even know it's a sequel to a gooner game.
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>AP beta in 3 hours
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>madarchod
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Trickcal
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star savior
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AP Wonned
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>>1987450
Dorm interaction? Wonder if it will as spicy as GFL2 or snowbreak
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>[BREAKING NEWS]
Die hard long time Honkai 3rd CC is schizoing out saying how Hi3 went downhill as soon as they pivoted off ML. Current ML/self-insert fans are at war with Yuri fans over the Captain-verse (harem self insert route) being canon or not.
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>>1987478
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Beta in 50 minutes!
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>>1987499
Sex with Luruka
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>whole 15 minutes later
lole, don't worry I'll free you from your commitment
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mlbros we can fulfill our dream of being white, we won
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[SAD NEWS] Metsa the hentai elf confirmed wearing spats
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It's called peak aura farm, Timmy doesn't understand cinema.
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>>1987665
YOU ARE BROWN!
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>>1987652
>biggest (you)bait character is a loli
>no males
we can filter 99% of the undesirables with these two easy moves
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I miss kiana's heart 0 interaction, where she’d kick me out of the lobby just for touching her boobs. now, she doesn't even talk to the "Captain" no matter how much you increase her heart level. so glad Marisa, the biggest HI3 youtuber, quit this shit for the exact same reason I did "the yuri-tard and feminist infestation"
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[SERIOUS DISCUSSION] How can we revive the hype for Genshin?
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>>1987719
You could start by not copying HSR designs, putting 3 times more effort into the game, give people the QOL they been asking for 5 years, among other things. But why bother when the playerbase is composed of brown players that will clap like seals for anything you put out?
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>aieeeeeeeee not the men im getting cucked!
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Release males.
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Ofc they sell in a game where the majority of players are either trannies or females. Duh.
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>>1987719
That character is a literal who filler
Btw, MLggers officially lost Columbina
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Im not chinky enough to understand how this is ntr
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How was the beta?
https://poal.me/vv38r9
>https://poal.me/vv38r9
https://poal.me/vv38r9
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>Ananta is a Sanskrit term meaning
"infinite," "endless," "boundless," or "eternal". Derived from roots meaning "not" (an) and "end" (anta), it often refers to the Supreme Brahman, the limitless nature of the self, or the cosmic serpent Adishesha, representing eternity in Hindu cosmology.
We are playing it though
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>>1987856
I don't follow
the columbina and sandrone chink VA's also on the 6.3 livestream or some random genshin FES panel also was gushing about the yuri and saying it's canon so what's the difference
Jap VA's are highly regarded from both the region itself and the west cause they generally are good and not as grating to listen to compared to chink language while korean isn't as popular and english VA is a fucking mess but still more manageable to listen to compared to CN
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>the columbina and sandrone chink VA's also on the 6.3 livestream or some random genshin FES panel also was gushing about the yuri and saying it's canon so what's the difference
Source?
>Jap VA's are highly regarded from both the region itself and the west cause they generally are good and not as grating to listen to compared to chink language
You got to stop falling for weeb memes. Burgers play on English. Chinks play on chinese.
>B-But I don't though
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>>1987861
https://x.com/rachii_chan/status/2006705680523427888
don't know if this is the actual source but close enough if it is. Might've been this panel or another one
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>>1987857
No, I don't follow.
None of what you said matters, jap VAs streaming and talking about their opinions is no different from SAG-AFTRA american fucks doing the same.
Your taste in VAs doesn't change reality, take your meds.
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>make a post answering it's the jap VA for the pic, nothing else
>CHINK GAME, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE BUT CHINKS SAY
>chink VA's also said yuri canon though
>WELL IT DOESN'T MATTER STILL
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MLbros, why this game for women has something like this while we only have gay men characters?
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Nice game Endfieldfags.
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>a genuine gay dudes general post
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>Kuro exposed the biggest weakness of being a game company: It has no ability to build a good IP
Kuro’s choice to “compete on quality” is exactly proof of his incompetence. Competing on quality has no end. There are countless companies in the world with better technology or higher production capacity. You can’t keep competing forever. Once a game with higher quality than Wuwa appears, players will abandon Wuwa without hesitation because Wuwa players lack a sense of belonging and cohesion. The same reason applies to bashing miHoYo. They can only gain confidence by putting down competitors. This shows that Kuro lacks confidence in its own game.
A positive example is miHoYo and Hypergryph, they built successful IPs. miHoYo’s Genshin Impact and Honkai, Hypergryph’s Arknights, are IPs that truly have cohesion. Their players feel pride and belonging, are proud to be miHoYo or Hypergryph fans, treat characters in these IPs like idols, and invest time and money into them. Kuro, who merely imitates others, will never achieve this. That’s why Kuro can only stand on the shoulders of miHoYo and Hypergryph.
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You had me going there but we all see through the bullshit you're trying to spew here
Endfield is shit and flopping harder than Wuwa on it's worst months. Hypergryph is nothing compared to Kuro and will be forgotten in the coming months
The "Arknights IP" doesn't mean anything when it's new 7 year developed high budget game is barely making more than their shitty 2d chibi baby game
Try harder
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[GOOD NEWS] A female executive from an Otome game background, hired by Kuro in 2024, has already been promoted to Company Vice President.
She’s in charge of operations—no wonder she has the power to give a "male Otome-style character" so much screen time. Respect and best wishes to everyone: the writers are female, the operations lead is female, and the President is female. Solon and Dong (the lead designers) have both moved on to lead new projects. (Even if they were still around, as long as Zhong Hong is connected to the President, even Solon would have to show her some deference.) Female high-level management already controls most of the company’s decision-making power. For ML fans, escaping now is the only way to cut your losses.
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3. Relationship with Wuthering Waves:
She has directly brought her experience in Otome/Female-oriented user experience, emotional operations, and long-term companionship to Wuthering Waves:
- Character designs and narrative immersion.
- Player services and community atmosphere.
- Global simultaneous servers and localized emotional adaptation.
In short: She is a veteran domestic "Female-oriented/Otome Operations Big Shot," and she is now in charge of operations for Wuthering Waves.
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Arknights is a very mediocre IP that HG failed to build upon. Sure it was novel back in 2019 but it became generic, similar to western aaa games. ake just exposed how AK was just all hype and hot air with not substance.
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>mihoyo greedmaxxed and abandoned their roots, even dropped their "tech otakus save the world" slogan
>kuro is being taken over by feminists
>koreans can't help themselves but add a dash of cuckshit now and again
>japan isn't even a player
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I don't give a fuck about successful games, i'm not a shareholder of these companies, i care about good games, and as it turns out Wuwa is the best gacha on the planet right now when it comes to quality. You can keep your revenue, i'll keep my good game.
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>Their players feel pride and belonging, are proud to be miHoYo or Hypergryph fans
Not true at least for Arknights
Endfield is an insult for most AK players and don't wanna be associated with it. Only content creators on CN who makes content for Endfield are literally just paid CCs.
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>>1988034
>construct your playerbase based on mindless drones
>they will consume whatever slop you serve them as long as it has the brand name on it
>just apple but for mobile gambling simulators
>construct your playerbase on high quality products
>they will only consume the highest quality product on each field
>the moment your product isn't the best one in the market, they will move on
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>>1988037
We've known this for a while, remember that according to kuro it takes about a year for a version to see the light of day, so it lines up.
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>>1988131
Meanwhile a 1.0 4 star character from WuWa:
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>>1988122
Since when do we seethe at hoyo games? We make fun of them. Know the difference.
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>>1988037
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>>1988140
It's a brown thing, you wouldn't get it.
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>>1988138
Another humiliation ritual
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I still find it upsetting augusta and galbrena barely had any dialogue together. Not to mention augusta barely spent time with rover. Dropped the game after that, came back for laho roi or whatever it's called, was disappointed again and uninstalled
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>>1988184
>indian
We only play wuwa here saar
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>>1988195
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>>1988195
unironically if he wasn't so brown and got rid of the glasses and hair style he'd be fine
however going off of the doxxed old photos of himself he gained weight actively chose that hair style and dropped the contacts and now he looks like a literal dog
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>>1987694
>another Asian twink MC
It's so tiresome, I guess only GFL have the guts to make White Chad MC.
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>>1988251
wuWON you fucking hoyoDRONE
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>>1988264
>post-Genshin world
You're all living in a post-FGO world though
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>>1988278
if you reread my comment it was mostly shitting on him
it's the old high school/college peak for people then slowly falling from grace whether being the popular kid or handsome or beautiful kid then turning out hideous and poor
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>>1988250
>they unironically thought they could be him?
You negroes don't try to get /fit/ or /fa/ enough to actually be shippable with your very own waifu?
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>>1988282
>ship
Lame. I'd rather look like your pic or gyaruo and rape anime girls while them looking at me with disgust.
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>>1988289
I forgot this game was coming out, to be honest. There's too much higher profile stuff that's either coming out, or already came out this year.
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>>1988303
your options are trash ngl fampai
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>>1988294
At least put in some effort on yourself anon
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Open world gachas have become a gimmick, why would anyone waste 5+min to do an action in green hill #1364 when i could be done in 10s in a menu.
Kinda remind me of the battle royal fade in the west were devs did it to copy the competition and not because it helped the game design.
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Good morning MLSAARS, i'm here to redeem your humiliation tears again!!!
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Gacha games are extremely profitable to begin with, only retards think you need millions to stay afloat. Unless you’re throwing money like Genshin most companies realize there’s a certain diminishing return upon investment into their own game, and most important is whether they have the creativity to make ideas that fit their budget otherwise it’s just a waste of time.
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It's every man's dream to self insert into a cute little girl!!!
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>>1988358
>Used goods
>Genshin doesn't do it
I'm sorry but sometimes i really got to wonder if most of you /here/ even play any of these games. It's truly fascinating how you are able to lie about both games at the same time in a cmt with a total of 10 words.
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>>1988383
Genshin wishes Wuwa was an HD version of itself. Sadly for it Wuwa is in a whole different dimensional realm, like trying to compare a 3D being with a 5D god.
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>>1988402
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>>1988394
If it isn't why aren't you posting gameplay from a gacha game that looks better? Why the need to post an empty statement with no proof?
I'll wait for the better looking gacha gameplay.
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>first month since release
>"WE ARE MAKING BIG MONEY 70% OF REVENUE IS ON PC/PS SHANGHAI GOVERNMENT CAN CONFIRMED!"
>second month since release
>"IT'S SURE TOUGH OUT HERE CAN PLAYERS STAY WITH US PLEASE..."
kek, time always exposes truth and deception in people
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>>1988435
>lowercase
>lil bro
Guess this anon ethnicity.
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>ZZZ in india: 488
>Endfield in india: 622
>Wuwa in india: 264
thank you IndianGODS for sticking with mingchao through thick and thin
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>>1988461
wuwa never beating the jeets allegation
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>Hoyofags so mindbroken that they called a janny to ban people that use racist terms even though that has been culture in vmg for ages now
Absolute state. I guess this is what happens when you don't have an argument to win the fights you start.
Here's more Wuwa gameplay so you can seethe a bit more!
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>>1988478
E>Q>E>Q>E>Q>E>Q>Normal spam for 7 seconds
Where does all of the money Genshin makes go? Not the game that's for sure.
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>He keeps reporting everything
Deary me, just keep your hivemind hoyofag, pathetic losers.
Before i go, a reminder:
>Still 0 comparison
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Rate my OC guys, DO NOT STEAL
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>>1988507
Has Snowbreak actually EOSed? I saw a ton of fans saying it would come back online on April 1st but it didn't lol
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Would you still love her if she was fully covered?
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>>1988522
I'm guessing it is actually over
Even if it came back online tomorrow, you'd have to be retarded to go back having missed out on a month and a half of logins and dailies
Most people I know have moved on already
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AP won
MLturds lost
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MLbros... I feel like they are calling us out...
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>>1988555
It's the same with male MC. Each time a scene is somewhat intimate, they immediately switch to 1st person POV. So even though fmc is there, the same sex action is not present.
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>>1988492
>Where does all of the money Genshin makes go?
Good story
Good characters
Good lore
Good worldbuilding
Good maps
Good modes like Miliastra Wonderland
Good events fully voiced, great stories and temporary maps and minigames.
There's a reason Genshin remains with the best stability and consistency from its playerbase and revenue while the supposed "better more effort" games keep trending down. Genshin is good and fun. Its art style is also extremely good and beautiful.
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>>1988561
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>>1988561
AIEEEEEEEE delete saar WUWON has the best gameplay
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Wuwajeets lack theory of mind, when they post gameplay and graphics that they find impressive other people must find it impressive too and if they say any differently is because they are lying or shilling. I dont think wuwa looks good, i only play 2d games but if i had to pick 3d games i think zzz has the best looking combat and designs, and endfield has the best graphics
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I played WuWa from 1.0 23rd of May 2024 until 2.4 June 2025.
It's pretty mid. Story sucks. Characters suck. World looks plain. Exploration is boring. Outro/intro system is clunky. Combat is boring button mashing. The style just looks very unappealing in general. Gloomy and empty.
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>>1988627
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>releases this month
>hasn't maxed out the freebie milestones
uh, NTE bros?
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>>1988599
I don't think the opinion of someone that plays png collector 2D slop gacha matters much in the discussion of how good a 3D ARPG plays or looks.
What a pointless cmt.
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>It's pretty mid. Story sucks. Characters suck. World looks plain. Exploration is boring. Outro/intro system is clunky. Combat is boring button mashing. The style just looks very unappealing in general. Gloomy and empty.
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>>1988476
>look at all the shining particles while the character floats all over the screen
Is this supposed to be impressive gameplay? The game already has issues with the nightmare nests where it's impossible to see anything due to all the particles.
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>>1988665
Good morning sir SAAR sir, today we are defending Azur Promilia and hyping Neverness to Everness!! (what a retarded name jesus)
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>>1988669
>>kusoge that never improves and only gets worse
The fact this is actually true is so funny
>Improve the exploration massively in Natlan
>Makes the new region with Sumeru's boring ass repetitive exploration and calls it a day
>Players eat it up and never once bitch about it
Incredible playerbase, should be studied really.
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neverness to everness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBWWXYeMYs
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>>1988669
>be wuwa
> 2.x adds element debuff stacking not to add more interesting combat mechanics but to make team compositions more strict and limit character kit to not only Resonance Chain but also other characters
> 3.x adds paypig event to get an "inflated" revenue muh generous gacha company though
> 3.x add new zones that somehow dips framerates even harder than septimont plains on a desktop 5090
> 3.x adds end game mode that can only be cleared by whales or the 10 remaining day one players
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>So many titles are too similar with Genshin
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The "Bao-Pi-Gou" (Kuroshills) are filled with so much hatred whenever they see Azur Promilia mentioned in the Wuthering Waves community. They aren't allowed to talk about Azur Promilia in the "Imperial Grain" (Official/Mainstream) community, and they aren't allowed to praise it in the "Dark Zones" (Drama/Leak subs). All they can do is grit their teeth and label Azur Promilia as the "New Wuthering Waves" or some "Spicy Immortal (ML)" god-tier game, and then sneakily play it themselves while pretending to hate it. When exactly are these "Bao-Pi-Gou" going to colonize the Yuan-Shen-Ge (Genshin Pavilion)?
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I originally didn't know what the deal was with the Azur Promilia Leaks Bar (Tieba).
But then I saw the comments—every single thread is full of people calling everyone "Big Syringe." (a derogatory name for Luuk Herssen) Now I know exactly where this crowd "wandered" in from. Fast forward to them claiming they are the "core players" of Azur Promilia and labeling anyone who doesn't join their "crusade" as a "developer's filial son" (white knight). Fast forward to them getting triggered by every little thing and tirelessly spamming "cursed images" (gore/shock art) in the official account's comment section.
I just want Azur Promilia to not be like Wuthering Waves—doing absolutely zero community management.
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From the looks of it, Azur Promilia community environment is going to be pure chaos.
"Mi-Zhong" (Mihoyo and Arknights fans) already show signs of merging forces. However, I think the most likely scenario is Mihoyo fans leading the "charge" (attacking) while Arknights fans stir up trouble from the shadows, only to cut ties later and pretend to be "pure and innocent." Given the quality of Azur Promilia, those two fanbases are bound to be terrified.
Then there are the "Bao-Tou-Wan" (Kuro fans who secretly play) and the "Spicy Immortals". Honestly, if anyone can still swallow the "brainwash packets" (propaganda) from those Spicy Immortals, they are truly beyond saving. Before a stable audience is formed in the first six months after launch, we're definitely going to see all kinds of "heaven-defying" (insane) drama. Get ready for the impact.
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After seeing Neverness to Everness (NTE) and Azur Promilia, I know the good news has arrived!
I don't think Sigrika’s poor revenue affects the big picture, because it was obvious at a glance that no one would pull for her. I’m sure Hiyuki and Denia will turn things around and make Kuro’s revenue soar again. My conclusion back then was that "Mi-Zhong" (Mihoyo/Arknights) had a stronger "stink" to them, and since the current Wuthering Waves ML (Master Love) fans have nowhere else to go, the drama has an impact but isn't fatal. But after seeing the leaks for NTE and Azur Promilia, the good news is finally here! These two games clearly understand that gachas must pander to "Otaku" (male players)!
As a side note, Mihoyo also understands that gachas must pander to Otakus—that’s how they grew to where they are today. But Mihoyo has deep pockets; even if they "downgrade" their content, they can afford to squander it for a few more years. The "MXZ" (Mihoyo Fanatics) who say Roco Kingdom or HOK: World will affect Wuthering Waves' player base are just being stupid. It’s the dating system in NTE and the "White Stockings/Big Chests" in Azur Promilia that are going to ruthlessly bleed Kuro dry.
If another "Feb 14th" drama happens, the Otakus will just head to these two games, causing a massive "downgrade" for Kuro. Genshin and Snowbreak are the cautionary tales of the past—I bet Wuthering Waves will be next. "The people of later generations grieve for them, but do not learn from them."
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The "seething" from some segments of the Wuthering Waves (WuWa) community—often playfully or derisively called "Wuwacucks"—stems from a perceived threat to their game’s identity and player base. Many WuWa cucks take pride in the game's low-skill, flashy combat and cringelord aesthetic, viewing it as the worse alternative to Genshin Impact. When Azur Promilia was revealed, its high production value, unique "creature-collecting" mechanics, and vibrant fantasy world immediately positioned it as a heavy-hitter in the open-world gacha space. This sparked friction because Azur Promilia is developed by Manjuu (the Azur Lane devs), who are known for aggressive "waifu" catering and polished visuals, leading to fears that casual players and "waifu collectors" might jump ship for a more colorful, less stressful and better experience.
Furthermore, the drama is fueled by the "culture war" within the gacha community regarding target audiences. Wuthering Waves attempted to balance a broader appeal with both male and female characters, which led to internal community clashes between "waifu-only" purists and those who want a diverse roster. In contrast, Azur Promilia doubled down on a female-only playable cast, earning it instant praise from the "waifu-only" crowd who felt "betrayed" by the mixed rosters in games like WuWa or Genshin. This has led to a cycle of "doomposting" where some fans use the hype of Azur Promilia as a cudgel to rightfully criticize WuWa’s management, character designs, or technical issues, creating a defensive and heated atmosphere between the two burgeoning fanbases.
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Why are you LARPing like civilized people when most of us live in India? Forget board culture, there are people here who live surrounded by crap!
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>ZZZ
>Better combat than WuWa
>Better character designs thna WuWa
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Failed WuWa CC turned ZZZ shill Foxsol is now vagueposting about how he has insider info that Hypergryph is planning to sue Saintontas for all the slander he's done against them for the past 2 months, he says they're just "biding their time" waiting for something "damning" that he says/does that they can justifiably go after him for
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>No thinking
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>>1988843
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>>1988855
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>>1988868
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>>1988874
>Jumping
ZZZjeet bros... How did he do that?
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>>1988835
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>>1988882
You do, but its meaningless, like saying warframe is better game because wuwa doesnt have bullet jump. They dont understand what games are, why people play them or what personal preference is. They believe wuwa is objectively the most omnipandering game that appeals to everyone and the people that dont glaze it have sunk cost. Its nuts
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>they to appeal to the mihoyo crowd
>fail
>scramble to appeal to the coomer crowd
>fail
>scramble to appeal to the ML crowd
>ML crowd doesn't like sloppy seconds
>its the ML crowd that always complains and kill games!
sure thing buddy
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Because they don't like what kuro is posting? No one likes the new patch, its filler and its bad filler at that.
As always kuro keeps posting illustrations trying to shill the current character (sigrika). The patch, BTW, is about helping students with their stress and organizing a school festival. SUPER fitting for a post-post apocalyptic fantasy action game right?
There was also an event with dates with the 3.X characters, but 95% of it was helping random npc or setting up the festival, you don't even get to spend time with the characters, and for some fucking reason it was fully 100% voiced. Biggest waste of time and money. There wasn't even any gameplay or new fights in the patch.
So you can imagine people got fed up as kuro keeps posting commissioned illustrations about the fucking festival (which has nothing to do with the current storyline).
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Is there any backstory as to why gooks are super anti and super allergic to the idea of a female mc? i started playing star savior and i noticed that all their gacha games have a fixed male self insert (even czn which is a mixed toilet also has a male mc only)
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