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Your source of the juiciest dramas about gacha games. Anything goes---your sentiment about the gacha industry, schizo takes, conspiracy theories, MTL screenshots from obscure Chinese forums, or just random gacha related topics that don't fit in a specific general.
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wuthering waves?
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KILLS MIHOMO
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So according to this thread star dive has every component necessary to be the next big hit (after wuwa killed itself and everyone forgot endfield), how much are you anons going to be spending on its first month? For me its going to be every top up with a bonus plus monthly+BP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu78QAKkGHk&t=4375s
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NTE is OVER
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Kurotrannies will somehow defend this
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This sub loves to fellate gooks even though there's only two games that are just decent in their entire repertoire the rest being unironic shipping fests with cuck subtext in some cases.
And this sub also loves to shit on chinese games even though chinks are much more rabid tardwrangling their developers, snowbreak being also the best game for romance and the pinnacle of ML
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>>1994061
The only game to come out of korea that isn't ntr is trickcal
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curves are forbidden in china
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>>1994066
You only got cucked if you were korean, jp and global didn't. And now she is in the kr server too, so no more cucking (except for some of the animated profile icons).
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>>1994038
>/gdg/ is several magnitudes slower than any known gacha
because most of the subhumans that post here spend their days spamming other gacha generals when they aren't sperging out here like the retard that haunts /sora/ but visits this place to have a melty about BA whenever its mentioned and many others
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>>1994032
>He doesn't get esoteric sustenance from DOOMing
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>>1994038
How did this thread become ML schizo? I thought it would involve real drama especially with JP gachas having so much, but JP gachas don't fit with the MLf schizo agenda so they don't care. Love Live not being able to keep a game alive is more relevant than shitflinging about who's getting cucked.
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>>1994094
Because 100% of the gacha shitposting comes from the Chinese and all the ML shittery also comes from China
This shitty general also spawned by subhumans that spent months shitting themselves over promilia so it shouldn't come as a surprise that this place is MLschizo HQ with several branches over the site like the ""Harem Thread"" that is not-so-secretly just /gdg/ 2 and the promilia thread that is just /gdg/ 3
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https://youtu.be/Va2Fj6lqIQs
why is the new male in pgr crossdressing again?
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>>1994104
I got duped into believing the kuro hype because of how much improved 2.0 was, but now it's clear kuro would be a hoyo if they could.
The only gacha dev I've seen that goes above and beyond when it comes to trying to do right by the players is snowbreak.
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>>1994107
BAAAAAAASEEEEEEEEEDDDDDD
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>>1994128
Actually, it might be fine cuz I was playing Aion 2 for 2 months and optimization was pretty good even tho its ue5 and looks better than any gacha in existance. Seems like koreans know how to optimizae their games, even ue5 ones.
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>>1994094
I think one of the drama in the earlier thread was about some nepo femoid rewriting a harem story into NTR or some shit, so the rest is just natural progression to me especially when real drama rarely comes.
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KEKED TIER LIST
JP>>>MASSIVE POWERGAP>>>CN>KR>TW
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>>1994157
>rover clone? fuck it, let's make cuckther clone instead
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>>1994169
*hits pipe*
I'm gonna be completely honest with you, en and jp dubs are basically 2 sides of the same coin to me now as far as gacha shit goes. en may be cringe but jp is soulless and predictable, the epitome of safe.
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>Anon asks what games arent for cucks, wuwa, trickal and snowbreak is the only unironic response, all ml games
>every drama is a singular complaint about mixed toilets, yuri, ntr or some other form of ml sin
>point that /gdg/ is for mlniggers, response is denial and tranny copes
Why is stating the obvious a bad thing?
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>>1994178
I'm just recognizing the pattern. I mean, it was bound to happen. When every gacha uses jap va as a selling point, and you have a new gacha dropping every month, it was only a matter of time before the va started treating gacha work as just a paycheck.
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the prettiest femc
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AP wonned
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>>1994067
If this censorship slop was from wuwa everyone in here would be losing their minds. You know this is true.
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>>1993242
No one talk about it on western hemisphere(a.k.a India) because Aether Gazer turns their deity into gamer girls and lewding her along the way
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When do the czn devs bend the knee and bring back old tressa? They’re being bled dry both in players and revenue. The f2p players made the game relevant at least. The whales aren’t pulling for a game losing in popularity.
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the promilias...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvqGAuu-ZIM
Wake up my brownies
A new gacha was announced for you all to schizopost and sperg over
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>>1994237
sex with this brat
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Anywhere i can see all the interactions?
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>>1994250
It's not even a gacha anymore. The devs removed the gacha after their publisher Webzen burned bridges and tried to turn them into a scapegoat as to why it flopped in Korea. It's more in line with its spiritual predecessor Dragon Nest now.
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>>1994265
DNA flopped because it got hacked twice honestly. I think people were fine with the game but anyone I talk to now says they uninstalled due to malware or don't want to install it due to the malware risk.
Gonna be hard to come back from that.
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There should be a new term for mixed slop that stopped adding worms while keeping the released ones because clearly they're not going for the "snowbreak route"
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>>1994095
One of the worst cultural neuroses the Chinese ever imported and picked up by thirdies who can't afford a console and who can't pirate a real eroge. The nips don't bother with this shit because their gov doesn't ban going so they play actual eroge if they want to romance girls and see pantsu.
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Blue Archive won
You lost
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>normgroid thinks that cheeky hetero otaku dressing up as their waifus is an own
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>SAAR WE DO THE NEEDFUL AND TALK ABOUT GACHA DRAMA
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Who's the new king of ML now that Snowbreak is dead? Blue Archive?
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>>1994468
WuWa
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>Kinda Sad
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neverness... to everness
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>>1994521
Probably the open world aspect?
I'm sticking with GF2 because it's turn based game and I'm too old for action game.
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>the guy who become the face of wuwa's community
>constantly fighting against landwhales and fags who attack him
>intelligent enough to see the faults that most gachas do and give a harsh criticism so the devs can improve the game and make the gacha scene higher quality
>devs are still so self centered they just ignore giving him ads or cc contracts
>they and their communities still cry when he tells the truth
He's genuinely /ourfuckingguy/. It's only because of him that wuwa's community is the best by far from others like hoyoshills or hypergrifters.
At least NTE devs are smart enough to give him ad campaigns so he can give them advice in how to improvw the game. NTE's future really looks bright unlike Endfield or ZZZ
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BAbros...
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>>1994547
Snowbreak, CZN, BD2 and all the former mixed games turned ML pandering to free falling revenue already proved this but I'd be more than happy for one to finally break the mold if it means no more bait homos at launch.
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>>1994554
stella sora's biggest issue is that their most popular character is an unplayable femc, the in game dialogue and the new asmr they released still only make sense as male mc
blumine isn't going to be more popular than blue rover so that won't be a problem
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>>1994555
>just released a short where the main heroine straddles you and asmrs you attempting to wake you up
>sleeps on top of you when she fails
>for platonic archive rejects
???
https://youtu.be/SqL_VnzzIhc
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>>1994566
>mixedsloppaKING can't even reply
This is the strongest mixedtoilet soldier btw
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>never touched brown turd 2 because it has males despite the pivot
>never touched aether gazer because it has males despite the pivot
>never touched czn because it has males despite the pivot
>never gonna touch mongil because it has males despite the pivot
And never will, the people playing these are cucks
Only Snowbreak did it right.
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>>1994570
>Snowbreak did it right
many such cases
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>>1994587
shut up and keep spending gweilo
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>>1994587
If snowbreak were the same, ((they)) would not attack it so relentlessly.
>but gf2
It's already been established gf2 is an exception. who knows why gf2 is able to get away with skins just at titilating as snowbreak yet suffer no consequence.
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>>1994596
>GF2GAWDS aren't insecure little bitches that need to put other games down to prop up their kusoge and turn every other community against them.
TRVKE
We are comfy in our corner even our former rivals become our allies.
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>>1994601
When your game only markets itself as a better [insert gacha here] it only breeds tribalism and will die by said expectations in the long run. Like the previous anon said GFL2 bros are too busy actually playing their gave to give a shit about comparison drama.
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GF2 only follows the trail that was blazed by snowbreak.
When Snowbreak released with fully 3D dorms, GF2 added fully 3D dorms.
When snowbreak became fully ML (you) pandering, GF2 became fully ML (you) pandering. Sort of.
When snowbreak added more sexy skins, GF2 added more sexy skins.
Everything that is good in GF2 began in snowbreak.
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>>1994602
>When your game only markets itself as a better [insert gacha here]
Are you talking about wuwa? Because you surly can't be talking about snowbreak. Far as I know, the only TPS gachas on the market are snowbreak and duet night abyss and I don't remember any saying snowbreak was a better DNA.
>um ackshually
Yes, I know DNA removed the gacha. You know what I mean.
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>>1994604
Did GF2 release with fully 3D dorms?
I already know the answer, but I want to see you say it.
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>>1994603
Nice fan fiction
Everything you mentioned already exist in GFL1 and PNC
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>>1994610
Did GF2 add covenants before snowbreak did?
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>>1994609
The real TRUTH NUKE
Without Yuzhong China gacha game wouldn't exist, Da Wei was inspired by Bakery Girl to make FlyMe2theMoon
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>>1994617
Did GF2
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covenants
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snowbreak did?
lil bro
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>>1994619
yes
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>>1994620
>just blatant lying
>I-I won
I accept your confection
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He won though? And he will keep winning.
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>All these GF(L) posters
based
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>>1994625
The simple fact is snowbreak was the trendsetter.
Snowbreak released with a fully 3D dorm, other gacha started adding fully 3D dorms.
Snowbreak went hard in on male pandering, other gacha started going harder on male pandering.
Snowbreak added covenants, other gacha started adding covenants.
>b-but GF had covenants before!
Then why didn't GF2 add them before snowbreak?
Snowbreak is basically the first matrix movie of gachashit.
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>>1994629
>gooner
You understand so little.
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Meanwhile Arknights (1) still doing its own thing i suppose.
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>>1994641
yeah? making mad amounts of money
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>>1994095
>all the ML shittery also comes from China
Actually it used to be Korea but after their schizophrenia broke containment and even normies worldwide started laughing at them their ML Warriors gave up or went into hiding
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>>1994670
It was this and Genshin committing suicide during Sumeru that really started the trend.
All of these things happened within the same 1 year time frame.
Snowbreak was barrrely making any money back then, so they were the first to decide "You know what, fuck it, it's mostly horny guys playing these shitty gacha games for the cute girls. Let's go all in on catering to them."
It saved the game, and from then on other developers started doing the same thing.
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>>1994672
Fuck off we are full
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>>1994524
He invites most of the attacks because he loves to be caustic (knowing people will react badly to that type of language) then cries wolf and plays victim. He also often has uniformed opinions because every article or video he gets sent he only reads one paragraph or listens to the first minute, gets mad and closes the tab then proceeds to make a whole opinion out of it
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>>1994678
I was the most powerful wuwa shill and I'm pretty much done with the game. Everything that brought me back in 2.0 has degraded in quality and kuro has only gotten more greedy. I gave 3.x an honest chance but really just can't stand the academy gimmick.
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>>1994291
Flops that can't accept their inevitable death due to critical mistake in planning.
It's commendable how they want their games to live and refuse to take the L. It's understandable that devs don't want to lose jobs and/or investments, but they are just not cut for the job or simply don't understand/respect players they intend to ship their games to. Pitiful existence.
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>>1994608
GFL already had 3d dorms before gfl2 dumbass LOL
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>>1994613
SHUT UP
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>>1994685
Just ignore him he doesn't know about GFL2 dorm showcase from early devstream
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>>1994536
>make femtyrant the canon mc
>now they can go all out
Based, hopefully AP will follow.
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>MLtranny expecting to get crumbs from a yurichad game
how the turntables
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>>1994737
Nips do really like her tho. And they are hyped for the new ones that were shown. A bunch of foids are also excited for the vampire guy. 40k and 55k likes are decent numbers.
https://x.com/AKEndfieldJP/status/2042931130236834118
https://x.com/AKEndfieldJP/status/2042939803285753968
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>>1994675
This is true. Women pushed too hard with their culture war, homos and cuckshit to the point that people can't tolerate it anymore. It was fine when FGO and Granblue were the two biggest gacha but not today. People are tired of women and homos ruining everything to the point where having playable male characters is enough to doom a game.
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>>1994760
The vast majority of gachashit, expecially the ones that dont make into the memecharts, are games generally pandering to straight males.
One big exception like LADS doesn't move the needle that much when it comes to global revenue.
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A new day has begun, what narrative do we defend today, Saars brothers?
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where were you when the Lord Arbiter himself abandons Solaris-3?
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>>1994780
I wonder why.
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>>1994806
Kinda funny. His favorite argument is that is if he has more viewers than you then you are irrelevant. Anyways it was obvious he was viewbotting on youtube from the start. His twitch streams get minimal engagement and the likes trend on his youtube videos always was the same
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If NTE flops, could that mark the end of 3D gacha slops?
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>>1994815
His biggest op skullcjay has gotten 3-4x the comments he gets with the same views so I wonder how low his actual view count is.
At the end of the day though, he's 100% gonna disappear after he loses his lawsuit which is something to look forward to.
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Can someone explain to me the "granny panties are ccp mandated censorship" cope when gfl does this?
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>>1994846
Target demographic. GF2 is for gooners while hoyoshit has far more ambitious targets.
Visibility is also a thing. GF2 is a small game while every kid in China has played at least one hoyogame.
We all saw how HSR immediately scrapped off japanese shit when the political tensions happened.
I don't care for hoyoshit but let's be real, it's not comparable.
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>>1994846
The real answer is that other fanservice gacha willingly censor themselves as punishment for their players not paying them enough money.
GFL2 is the only one smart enough to realise this is an unsustainable method.
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gfl2 has the follwing:
1) CEO with a desire to make a lewd game
2) CEO with a lot of connections and with rich, influential family
In chinkland you can make a game as lewd as gfl2 only if you have BOTH of these factors
Snowbreak only had the first one
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>>1994846
He's just based like that
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>come from ELITE Family
>deep ties with CCP
>his family have connection with Shanghai cartel
>honored guest of United Nations
>the reason why Yostar and Arknight exist
>the guy who inspired Da Wei to make Mihoyo
>bought Viva-Team and renamed it to Vanguard Sound studio who make every banger gacha music
Yuzhong is HIM
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>>1994896
another mongoloid that doesnt understand every big company needs to have ccp members, every company that self-censors has a minimum of 30% ccp members, and they dont view each other as competition because all the money goes to the government anyway. Its only the fans that think there's competition because that generates fanaticism and profit
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>>1994820
I want to say this is the last year that open world gacha slop will be coming out, and any future releases will at least know they need to not be Genshinlike #500 that dies after a month.
But knowing these kind of people, they'll keep trying to chase the winning trend while not knowing that it's already been oversaturated, and new releases are facing massive diminishing returns. Since everyone that wants to try this sort of game is already going to be glued to Genshin, Wuwa, NTE/Ananta, Endfield.
As much as retarded investors will always imply otherwise, there is not an infinite amount of wallets to drain dry, and there's only so many people willing to jump ship until late arrivals just don't get anything out of their release other than millions of dollars of debt they can't pay off.
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>>1994905
For some reason suits don't realize how many of those women are feminists. Even Snowbreak was infiltrated once and had a chapter completely ruined. Once there are too many women holding influential positions within the company the games start becoming more and more censored and stagnating. It's why Wuwa is in freefall right now.
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>>1994907
and how does that affect my argument? he doesnt censor because it makes the game more profitable, and he wouldnt make a cartel to censor other games because why would high ranking ccp member try to lower the profit of other games that are generating billions of dollars for him too? use your brain
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>>1994780
>factory doesn't stand out even though hypergryph kept glazing it about how cn players were gonna love it and was supposed to be the cornerstone of endfield
>story is bland, plot is boring, even the lore is shit
>mc (you) has amnesia AGAIN and is even more bland, there is no character who distrusts you openly and makes you wonder if you were a war criminal like in arknights
this is after 6 years of development btw
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>Yuzhong is a member of the CCP so that's why he has so much power.
>But also all companies have members of the CCP in them! That's why they get censored!
This argument is circular.
Is it so hard to accept that a man who has been in this game for +10 years is better at business than some rookie startups who are fumbling around their first game(s)?
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>has enough money and power to censor both tendent and hoyo
>doesn't have enough power to stop people from astroturfing the raymond drama all over china despite having the most censored internet in the world
> doesn't have enough money and power to have more marketing and shills than the games he tries to kill
only jeets can believe the cartel shit
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Raymond killed all the hype for CN release and they still havent recovered (and never will). Also, the game in general was in a terrible state at CN release.
Outfits were censored at CN release (Sharky, Vepley, Nemesis, Krolik, etc).
Delay of doritos for pulls annoyed a lot of global players.
Skin gacha killed global revenue, its always lower than pre-august 2025 (they've announced skin gacha at the beginning of august 2025)
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Then get the connections and pay the bribes.
>>1994937
All gacha arguments end up representing the feelings of the users towards the company, its pointless to argue with a monkey.
>hoyo or hypergriph is censored
self-censorship, they are gay, they hired women and bragged about it on social media, all women are feminists
>kuro or snowbreak is censored
infiltrated, they are based, not gonna point that they bragged about hiring women in social media but, if mentioned, not all women are feminists and they are actually eye candy for the devs to be happier
>hoyo and hypergriph make billions of dollars
they dont invest them in their games, they pay bribes, they pay shills to attack other games, they have a cartel
>tencent makes trillions of dollars, actually the #1 most profitable gaming company in the world
their games are so much better despite having a smaller budget haha, they dont get censored because they are moral and dont pay bribes, they get attacked by shills with no way of counterattacking unless i defend them for free, they get attacked by the cartel
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Do you intentionally misunerstand the difference between the company and infiltrating feminists? If they were motivated by profit they wouldn't have cucking dramas every week. These people's goal is harming the game and ruining it for male players.
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>everyone focusing on feminists and CCP
>in reality these companies want to lower their age rating to be ads friendly so they could advertise their game on the front-page and public place.
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i know nepo-hire foids are a big problem. i agree with you on that one
but to say a company(especially chinese ones) wont censor their product for profit is beyond retarded
it's why we have sterilized, occasionally gay, and censored mixed toilets, because companies want to reach as wide of an audience as possible
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>>1994948
are the top sellers the least censored or the most?
>inb4 fake revenue
goes both ways, you dont know if more censorship brings less sales, it should stand to reason that the things that are imitated the most are the things that work best
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When you're looking at the meme chart look at the bigger picture.
Those shit in the top 10 by your logic are censored slop and yet they make more money than Mihoyo.
Every gacha companies want to reach outside of gacha market that's why Snowbreak did that collab.
These CEO/Director doesn't give a fuck about (you) they only want money.
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>it's why we have sterilized, occasionally gay, and censored mixed toilets, because companies want to reach as wide of an audience as possible
You got me there but with so many of those games failing they should have figured out this approach isn't working.
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suits are clueless. maybe wait a few more years before they start to figure it out. the competitors we see right now were the ones that wanted to replicate genshin's success
unfortunately, as we both know there's too much foids in these companies so it will take time before the suits find the problem, and then do something about the parasites
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>Rewinding Cadence
Huh, I never heard about this one before today, what is the general feeling about this one?
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Nice, endfield was a nightmare for me with stutteringhdd user and money is too tight to upgrade my sdd pls understandif this one is on the light side of it all the better.
Which is insane for me because I could run E33 just fun on my pc
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eh, never had a reason to upgrade and could run near everything else short of space marine 2.
The fact only NOW in 2026 that I am seriously considering upgrading speaks wonders about what actual good optimization can do, AAA games are a scam.
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yeah in hindsight I should bitten the bullet way early, but it's fine it's about time I got a SSD anyway, I'll probably do it around my vacation from work in a few months.
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>>this one singular company
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Why would they? The censorship is good publicity for their target audience, the sisters and fags love when a female gets less shading in their ass than a man.
Of course that has the opposite effect in games aimed at males.
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>>1995072
Shotas are more popular than tall males
Shart Rail is flopping exactly because they aren't making shotas
Meanwhile this is Genshin's next 5 star that will be free on the next anniversary.
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because you are in a bubble, the most profitable mobile games are for normies and normies dont want to play a game with only females because it sounds perverted or for females. Only inside the retarded korean-chinese bubble playable male characters are perceived as bulls fucking your chicks, normal not-buckbroken people think that they are options for guys that play as guys.
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They will never stop making these, the same way the AAA industry never stops making live service extraction shooter, hero shooter or battle royale slops despite the last ten years of them bombing save for two or three. So long as those two or three continue to make money, the chinks and gooks will keep funding the development of more. The only ways this ends are if mihomo releases a flop or all of China is wiped out.
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every corpo has been trying to be the next genshin killer for ages but very few have been able to launch a playable actual competitor in time and now all these companies that poured millions of dollars into a game that was supposed to appeal to the masses just realized they can't compete with the current big 3 so they scaled down, either went the AP/SB route of making males into npcs or are keeping them in hopes of baiting a couple of normies for good launch numbers before they pivot into full fanservice mode and try to squeeze as much money from coomers before their inevitable EoS.
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>playing Seven Deadly Censors
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>>1995098
The so-called "normal people" you're referring to largely don't play gacha games to begin with. They played Genshin in 2020 and that's it, after that it was back to fortnite, elden ring, CoD, etc. They talk about gacha games, but they don't play them and the ones who do and say they don't mind males are a minority. These games are only profitable or discussed for their girls. I could open instagram right now, scroll through zenless reels until my thumb turns black, and the odds that I'd find even ten posts about the guys is lower than the game's draw rates. If these "normal people" who enjoy the males and were so numerous that they're the actual reason these games stay profitable, more males would be released and the ones that currently exist would be talked about even half as much as the girls. But neither of these things occur.
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>The so-called "normal people" you're referring to largely don't play gacha games to begin with
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>>1995026
I put all my gachaslop on hdd, if a mobile game doesn't run well on hdd then it's not worth playing.
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High levels of understanding on display. Gachaslop is niche genre. Genshin only struck it big because it dropped during a time where people around the world were literally forced to stay indoors.
>the ones who do and say they don't mind males
That's me. I wouldn't mind males. I still don't want them though because I don't trust gacha writers to not take swings at gacha players when given the opportunity, or even just stay in their lane when it comes to storytelling.
>they want those people in
I'm sure the unicorn that is the modern gacha audience is out there. maybe you just have to dump a certain amount of millions into the game before it appears...
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>they want those people in, what part dont you get? they know the space is saturated and it needs new blood
See, they've already figured out that any new blood doesn't spend money on males like that. That's why the male character ratios and revenue after all this time is so low. Even at Genshin's peak normalfag participation, no male banner came close to selling the way Raiden did, and even now they don't without another girl like Yelan to carry them.
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>top 10
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they only played genshin and thats it yet wuwa has more players? you faggots repeat this shit over and over regardless of what realisty says. Gachas are normie tier; the most played ones are mixed toilets, and fan service sells better, ofc, but not if it hurts the ability to market the casino game to children.
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>top 10
>looks inside
>tail end of the top 20
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https://gamerant.com/most-played-popular-pc-games-2025/
>2% of global playtime with 2 gachas alone is not enough to be considered normie slop alongside gta v, marvel rivals, gta v and apex legends
Keep coping. You must have a very special and unique taste in music, you are not like the sheeps listening to the top 3, you listen to the top 18 and 19, amazing
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>you are not like the sheeps listening to the top 3, you listen to the top 18 and 19, amazing
This is not the argument you want to be making while showing me that genshin is now losing to wow classic of all things. If that's what passes for normie tier now, then the industry is more washed than we realize.
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>not censored, has males
>censored, has males
>censored, no males
>censored, has males
Interesting choices, i'll take one without censorship.
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do you understand how insane it is to have 0.9% of the GLOBAL PLAYTIME ON PC? are you out of your fucking mind? what do you think normie tier is if fortnite is at 4% and genshin and wuwa are at 0.9%? you are not special, you are cattle
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that is not the argument and i dont give a shit, if your game was or is in the top 20 most played games alongside gta and pubg it is normie tier and it is made for normies
>why are they doing so and so when normies only play so and so
they are doing things to attract normies because it works and they are getting the same numbers as the most popular games in the world at the same level of marvel rivals and wow. You are not unique
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>>1995158
I'd call it semi-censored since some costumes and characters don't have shorts but it just proves that the game lacks proper direction.
>>1995162
https://phoshco.github.io/model-viewer/
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>>1995159
You're right, it is insane, because the game above it is one that doesn't even have 100k under it. We're talking about PCfags, meaning a market of roughly a billion people, yet it's losing to wow classic of all things. The only way it makes any sense is if PC gaming is dead. Even the article you cited doesn't believe wuwa or genshin are popular on PC.
>Popular gacha games like Wuthering Waves and Genshin Impact also made the list in 18th and 19th position, respectively, likely showing that console and mobile devices remain the most popular method of playing those games.
You already lied about them being top 10, now we just have to figure out what else is being lied about here.
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>>1995167
Nta but they literally went out and removed any semblance of skin exposure from symphoria.
Out of dozens or so characters i only found 3 characters(luruka, mity, anais) that i'd consider unsafe.
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>THE WUWA IS SUPER POPULAR SAAR
>jobs to uma
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>>1995173
It's probably better if they simply don't care but going all the way to censor it is just vile.
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>misremembering top 20 for top 10 is lying
Are you gonna cry about "misinformation" too?
Faggot. i dont know what sorta mental gymnastics you are using to see that your unique games have the same playtime as pubg and gta but it doesnt count because...wow classic? Because pc only has 1 billion players? Kill yourself, normgroid
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>>1995196
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>>1995198
is true sir come get your free blowjob
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>>1995187
>your unique games have the same playtime as pubg and gta
But they don't, do they? You yourself posted the list that shows that they don't. The only way you can say they're getting the same playtime is if YOU pretend they're the same game and lump them together for no reason at all.
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>>1995201
WHERE ARE THE MALES????
THE NORMAL PEOPLE WON'T PLAY OUR GAME OR GIVE US MONEY IF WE DON'T ADVERTISE THE MALES.
THE MALES MAKE THE GAME POPULAR LAAAAAAAAA
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>don't spend on males
>antagonize paying players (waifufags)
>which either drives them away or makes the game double down on female characters
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>>1995218
Just think about it for a moment. LaDs has no presence. It's never trending on Chinese sites like Tiktok and Bilibili, and nobody talks about anywhere outside of threads like this. If it really was as massive as you claim then it would be everywhere.
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>>1995220
Trends WITHIN one game, you can't actually use it to compare games to games because of their retarded multipliers which is what 90% of retards try to do anyway. Assuming they're not constantly changing each games multiplier, then you can't even do that.
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>>1995271
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>Weren't they supposed to be the game's trump cards?
DRUMPF?!
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>>1995307
>PLEASE TALK ABOUT MY GAME!
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>>1994878
feminists leave GFL2 alone because they know it's a venus fly trap for cumbrained losers made by developers who would readily cuck its playerbase. if it ever gains notoriety they'll be buck broken like wuwa. same can't be said for truly for-(you) gacha
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>>1995335
women only attack women when her man insists that she should. at the end of the day the point of feminism is to raise a woman's SMV. if she's already cashed out and no longer in the market, the net cost to her personal smv wrt her chosen man vs. the collective smv gain means she'd go against the grain for once. "pickmes" are either women who have already fallen in love (instinctual attraction) with a man even if she's not had him locked down and hers, or they're women who derive financial benefit from the virtual signaling to simps (emotional prostitution). all else remaining equal, a woman will always play the optimal strategy of maximizing collective SMV.
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>>1995304
Here we go again with the dishonesty. >>1995135
Not only did you remove two of the games separating wuwa and pubg (one of said omissions has just barely 100k players) you bumped up GTA out of nowhere.
I understand this all looks like a negligible difference at face value, but you're not taking into account the actual player counts those percentages stand in for. Pubg last year was still pulling 1 million people on steam alone while wow classic was only just scraping 100k. The difference between any one of these percentages is a massive range, and for wuwa to be below wow classic means it's not anywhere close to the same tier as pubg. Not even by miles.
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>>1995371
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>why wont arkniggers support endfield
Well lets take a look.
>doesn't have gameplay they like (tower defense vs open world button mashing slop), nowhere near the replayability of the first game
>takes place hundreds of years in the future on another planet so their favorite characters aren't present
>copies shit from other games that arknights didn't have and didn't need, like weapon gacha
>one artist is drawing all of the characters, when arknights prided itself on having tons of artists drawing the characters, resulting in a drop in character design quality
>story is structured in a way that means characters can't do anything without the MC on-screen, when previously you got different perspectives and characters acting independently
>the entire setting has been infantilized where all the major factions have been lumped into a single big faction and are best friends now, when previously it was like 20 different nations who hated each others' guts and were always looking for ways to get ahead of each other
>the music/OST is nowhere near as good as the first game, so the whole "hypergryph is a music company" meme is dead now
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>>1995485
>weapon gacha
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>>1995361
Is it because of the servers shitting themselves? They seem stable now. I played a bit but it just isn't very fun. It's also very tame for what is originally an eroge. I wasn't expecting the girls getting pounded on a gacha in the play store, but the fanservice is meh
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>>1995485
Game lost me at "you're stuck a full year on space China". I know it's a staple of Chinese game, but I'm just tired of it. The rest of the game and mechanics weren't all that interesting and even the factory gameplay that was supposed to be the "core" is a once and done thing.
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Ah that's another issue. The original Arknights has around 12 updates per year, one per month. It only goes to China 1 month out of those 12.
So naturally people dislike being forced to stay in Space China for months when previously they only had to endure it 1/12th of the year.
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>>1995476
I was making a list of games that i know are very popular to contrast with how popular wuwa and genshin are, not adding the full list that im typing while also posting the full list is not dishonest, its just emphasis. And no retard, thats not how percentages work, if pubg has 1.1% of the playtime with 1 million players wow cannot have 1.0% with 100k players, it would have 0.1%. I cannot believe the amount of cope that im reading. You are a normgroid, get the fuck over it
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>took 2 years to reach PC
>by that point online became a cesspool of glitch abusing fags
>online during that 2 year period also proved it wasn't fun since it was a job simulator and not online free-roam
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Why is Wuwa getting singled out for this, when... literally every big budget gacha has the same issue? You could swap "Wuwa" with Genshin or HSR and the post would be identical, but those would probably just get nuked by the mods.
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>>1995605
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>>1995618
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Weird shit in Mongrel aside, the game made me realize how full of small vices Endfield is. In here you can beat enemies almost instantly if you're on level, you can actually run mats stages as many times as you want, quests and places are easy to get to, text is easily skippable if you don't care about something, loading screens are minimal and so. I honestly have no idea why they made Endfield the kind of massive boring chore it is, and I probably would still be playing it if it had all of these QoL things. This game is obviously super low budget and I'm not sure I'll play it for long until I jump to another FOMO (or they EoS it), but it doesn't feel like a chore simulator at least. I'm definitely not going back to Endfield, shit's booooooring.
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[SAD NEWS] Snowbreak players tried to give Seasun two cakes, so they can put the game back up, but were rejected.
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>>1995838
I think its illegal for companies offering a service to accept gifts from their customers because it can be seen as a bribe, you usually have to sign a waver stating that if you do you have to fill a form for HR stating the value of the gift and such. So its common for the people at the entrance to simply return such things, they usually only accept small stuff like keychains and letters.
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>>1995858
Hard to say during the first couple of months. People are saying that the game is low budget but fun, unlike say endfield that looks high budget but boring and a chore to play. After most players reach endgame and get into farming mode, and the first content update, we'll see. Even GFL2 started with like 10 million and then its like less than one million nowadays.
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>>1995845
seasun had already gotten sent two cakes in the past around first anniversary. It even resulted in a small scandal because one of the cakes was thrown in the trash by a femoid employee.
I'm willing to bet there's more to the story than what the poorly translated screenshot is letting on.
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>>1995879
it actually is, its a lot more like trickal than endfield, the pacing of the story, how the events work and the sweep features, the lack of walking and running around to do content. Its a middle ground between those two types
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>>1995879
it actually is, its a lot more like trickal than endfield, the pacing of the story, how the events work and the sweep features, the lack of walking and running around to do content. Its a middle ground between those two types
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the GOAT is firing on all cylinders against all sides
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>Mongli MC
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>>1995926
Yeah? This has been known since before they showed the males even. It was never an ML game, and always a cameraman game, which is why I found strange that people complained about the canon shipping of characters and the males. So anyways the Cloud guy is the main character, but the player character is the cat, so you get to sit in the chair regardless.
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>>1995928
Play the first few hours of the game, the MC isn't a self insert, the story is 100% cameraman tier. Even then, the MC is treated like shit by the cast and its the punching bag of every joke, not unlike the MC of GZN (which still hasn't been rewritten).
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My first impression of this game (2K + Very High + Native):
>The graphics are close to an indie f95 game but more polished and with better performance
>There are weird FPS drops right after you roll the gacha
Maybe I’m just tired of gacha games but there’s no significant difference between this and any other gacha slop out there—it might actually be worse.
>Is it worth playing or spending on?
Absolutely not. If you just want waifu and better gameplay, you’re better off playing a new indie title like Rustil: ELC.
If you want the ML aspect with jiggle physics, stick to established ML games like GFL2 or Snowbreak or Whatever since the chance of getting cucked by feminist devs is much lower.
But if you’re just a gacha addict, then go ahead, no one can stop you
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>>1995932
>the MC isn't a self insert
this is a good thing. I'm tired of blank slate MCs. I can still very much self insert into established characters too, most people that had watched harem anime in the 00s and 10s can.
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>>1995979
By itself, yes this is a good thing. I would also rather the MC actually have wants and goals. But it doesn't matter if they're just going to do nothing and observe like a ghost as everyone else does things and interacts with one another.
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>>1995982
Look what they stole from us
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>>1995985
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>NTE puts out a new trailer
>shows the male MC hugging and holding hands with the girls, not the fem MC
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>>1996072
I wouldn't call it decent. It suffers from awkward delivery and pacing due to the age old anime dub challenge of not always having enough time to read a line naturally, and engrish translation at times.
Here's an example: https://youtu.be/chnRaxZmvJQ?si=aKkEQebPxhdljsTb&t=752
>are these numbers?... relatedtotheanamolyfluctiationinthecity?
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Speaking of engrish. If you're going to make original songs for your game in english, please hire someone that's at least fluent in the language to write the lyrics because holy shit, the song from the new trailer was engrish as fuck. Hell, use AI if you have to, I don't care. I'm tired of these chink gachas with english lyrics that have no poetry or flow to them.
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>>1996078
wuwa used to have the best en dub easily during 2.x. The songs were still pretty engrish, but cartethiya's song with fucking immaculate.
>they do almost 3 voiced EN songs per patch
Now they do, and they should fucking quit it. The last song in aemeath's story sounded fucking horrible, the singer could barely pronounce the english lyrics.
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>>1996084
I don't see what that has to do with my point. Whoever writes the lyrics should have enough of a grasp of the language to write something that sounds good. Too much of these gacha songs are more like plain narration than lyrics.
>>1996085
>don't believe your lying ears!
Nigger, fuck you. Go gargle marco's meatballs, of whatever grifter you watched.
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>>1996081
You thought with those budget they should've known better but nope, they're just like everyone else, even hypergryph, the "music company" sounds fucking grating to my ears.
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>>1996095
>nobody bothers to spend on the game except for the Koreans
>the devs still let feminists do the animations just to mock the spenders
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>NTE released new trailer, clearly trying to ape Ananta's viral trailers
>Completely devoid of any of the charisma or soul
SAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMzzXYQ8zoQ
just compare this to NTE's new trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbcElxa1AoQ
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>>1996089
>Marco is the only musician that liked it
Ty for proving you are a retarded brown MLfag. I bet you dislike the song solely because it's related to Aemeath. Your minority opinion is irrelevant, the majority always decides what's good for a game or not.
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>if your videos only get around 10k views than you need to quit YouTube and get a real job
>deflects when it is brought up that he is getting those views
>praises Tectone who constantly brags about making millions
At this point is there any point in denying that Tectone is bankrolling him to create wars in the gacha community and screw over anyone that didn't kneel before Tectone?
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>>1996108
Yeah I listened to cartethiya's song since I brought it up earlier.
https://youtu.be/4ZKgq7Aw34s?si=1cG8O_1PIaYqPO65
This is the absolute peak of anything wuwa has done musically. Not just a good song on its own but and excellent connection to the story and character.
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>>1996117
>want ML
>play chinkge
After what the chink feminist done to snowkek, you're pretty much a retard to play any chink's "ML" game.
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>>1996127
to be fair kr and jp are equally fucked
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>>1996117
A game where the female MC can do the same things as the male MC is not 9/11 for yuritards.
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>>1996173
many such cases
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>>1996199
or do and just whore her out in a bunny suit
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>>1996182
>But this place told me
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>[DISTURBING CHIBI NEWS]
After the season 3 trailer released some 6 months ago, which everyone thought was a joke, it was revealed on today's update that Xion and Vivi had, in fact, made a child together. This is not only greatly disturbing to KR players because both of them are blood sisters, but also because characters in Elias don't give birth, they are spawned from the World Tree.
What the reaction will be from the KR players is to be seen, but is the opinion of this reporter that John Epid and his cadre better watch their asses.
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>>1996251
nice *ML* game
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There is so much gacha slop with double MCs now. It's better to stick with a single MC instead of risking your money and time funding a Yaoi or Yuri game. Just let the people who are loudly shouting for "equality" and "a game for everyone" fund the game instead.
Remember: you have much better choices for gachas nowadays compared to the 2010–2019 era. Don’t be stupid by funding the parasites.
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>>1996251
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>>1996259
Just don’t play Korean games that blatantly pander to them, like Limbus or something. As long as the devs stay true to the game's original direction without trying to pivot toward those parasites, you’re all good
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>>1996251
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>>1996266
You give yourself a lot of credit and you know it, Uma Musume is a real cultural phenomenon
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>>1996266
yeah, its so influential that there are exactly zero games that tied to copy it, and they released a sequel that was 5 years in development and lasted 2 months before everyone forgot it.
meanwhile other games have their style, gameplay, or protagonist copied by every other game in existence.
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wallahi brothers what gacha is the best for me
inshallah
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>>1996293
There are dramas going on, people here are just retarded. You have to go to the cn and kr sites (like arca) to read them though, which apparently filters 100% of the posters of this board. You do have to know how to pick out which posts are legit and which are schizophrenic ramblings, which should be easy for anons.
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>>1996303
Don't shift the goalposts, it was never about the sales or market but the game itself. And arknights has been influential enough that at least 2 other games copied it's art direction and strategy, that's all.
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>>1996275
>>sucking up for the yurishitters and unironic trannies on your fanbase cause of the revenue
Cygames isn't sucking up to them just because of some EN shitcord, everyone already knows they don't play the game and don't spend money.
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>>1996319
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>>1996339
Time and time again, the game has no identity. For an "urban fantasy" the game really just shoves whatever slop it can think of. And rather than designs feeling cohesive and recognizable, they just feel generic and bad (like Promeia) or way too forced to be recognizable (Dialyin).
Not just that, but there's no real end goal for the story anyway. It's become an amalgamation of different things and neither of them hit. Everyone has already forgotten the shitty chinese cultivation arc.
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>>1996318
The excuses ENfags made for this failure were just laughable.
>wyell muh covid meant the japs could stay in and play!
>they had weekends!
They're all new and don't understand that jap dedication. The japs would've hit that goal regardless of the day or covid.
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>>1996334
Nigga that shit been the shit since like the 80s
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>>1996352
THIS is what came out of the training. The cooles gigachad who gets all of the bitches in gacha. As you know, mihoyo LOVES making their MC the coolest character and super important to the story
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>>1996349
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>>1996362
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>>1996339
It's just so damn boring. I picked that game up on Zhu Yuan's, spent a whole lot of money on getting her and dupes, only to never even see her. It's just neverending tv screens and slowly jogging between scripted event after scripted event. Even after they got rid of the tv minigame, they left all the other boring scripted shit you can't really skip and forced party sections with characters I don't care about. I don't even know when I'm supposed to reach that hub city all the instagram and tiktok posts show where they showcase the girls walk cycles and shit. Every couple months I go back to it only to get roadblocked by the same problem and uninstall in ten minutes. At least last time I finally made it to the Zhu Yuan story section, but even that was fucking nothing. The ass jiggles are genuinely not worth the hundred years of meandering going on in this game. I can just scroll instagram for those.
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>>1996371
I don't think any of the higher ups in mihoyo play their own games. Also, the MC being a pathetic faggot is a plus in the eyes of their players.
They bitch and moan every time the MC does anything, gets involved in the story, or gets any form of affection from the characters.
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>>1996385
>but I wonder how long that will last now that they have w*men sucking their way into more senior positions on the team.
Here you have your answer
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>>1996389
Sorry sis but I'm not going to fall for this low level psyop. Rover having a confidant was long overdue. It would've been better if it had been an existing character but that's just the nature of gachashit.
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>>1996385
its impossible for rover to be underpower when a single fragment was rover can cleave a planet in half
this is already written into the story
there is no way to nerf him when more fragments of him exist
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>>1996385
I mean, they already almost but deleted rover from the story. During 3.0 he literally did nothing during the first half, and for the second half he at most defeated a singular boss (when back in 2.4 he was killing bosses by the dozens in cutscenes). In 3.1 first half he attack sigillum TWICE and aemeath did all the cool shit. In 3.1 second half he attacked nibora ONCE. In 3.2 first half there was no fighting. In 3.2 second half hiyuki did all the cool stuff.
I don't know how mengzhou is going to portray rover, but in lahai roi he hasn't done anything, and the funny part is that npcs keep glazing him like crazy (and even lynae in 3.0, despite the only thing that happened to that point was her running him over in the bike)
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[Good news]
The biggest Hoyo leaker has admitted he is gay and in another comment, he stated his belief that feminism is the strongest alliance for the LGBTQ+ community.
Congratulations to the Hoyobros here, please give them a round of applause.
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>>1996349
I feel like all of ZZZ's problems can be traced back to Waterkuma leaving the project too early on; as far as I'm concerned he was the only one with any real vision for the game but he only got as far as New Eridu. (Imagine if Genshin only launched with Mondstadt and Liyue was just made up on the fly later). This game feels like a bunch of random artists trying to "finish" a painting that the original artist barely even started on before he fucked off.who wants to bet they're just gonna copy HI3, with the Hollows basically functioning the same as Honkai, tragedy/greater-goodslop and maybe even some expies?
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>>1996441
They kinda are. Eroge market died and it evolved into this. A harem of cute girls to woo. Just that the ero part is outsourced to fame-chasing artists. I guess I should have said galge so you wouldn't bitch back.
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>Rover can just fix everything
>when he is shown being defeated by every 4 cost TD and having to be saved
>when he is mindraped in 5 minutes by the baddie of 2.X
>when he has to be saved THREE times in one patch by galbrena
it's clear you haven't played the game. rover doesn't do shit more than half the time, and he kinda stands there pretending to fight some 1 cost TDs while the shilled limited 5 stars does all the heavy lifting. even as far back as 1.0 jiyan was the one that did most of the work, and rover only stalled for time while jiyan recovered from tanking a hit while protecting rover, and after abby had to absorb the other hit.
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>w*men sucking their way into more senior positions on the team
Depends on the women. If you got some like the ones who gave feedback on the new Leon from Resident Evil you'd be fine. If you get bitchy ones who hate men or ones who hate hot women you're fucked.