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Reposting the links of this "Project: Perfume" game that was shared at the end of the previous thread:
https://xcancel.com/deweibs/status/2049118590855532879 (embed)
https://www.xiaohongshu.com/user/profile/695a2d64000000000b03b2d0
>>2006312
No idea, but preregistrations are already open.
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https://x.com/Prettybusy_KR/status/2048738268150399329
porny angel....
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>>2006144
>they've been doubling down hard on their presence in Japan
Smartest move they can make. S. Korea only cares about webtoons with the ugliest characters, it's banned in China, westerners don't spend and are annoying to deal with, and their home country Taiwan is too tiny and has China constantly breathing down their neck. Japan is still the biggest market for explicit fujo content and they tend to be pretty loyal, I don't think nu:c popularity has waned significantly over thereI think one of the Animate locations even added Edmond to one of their murals kekHopefully they don't fall into the multi-media project trap that nips seem to love.
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>>2006427
Will be interesting to see how well this game does, it's our first LADs clone but at least the other 2 guys are different. The pink haired and a tanned guy look fine but temu Sylus needs to change or at least give him a different haircut.
Also fuck Happy Elements for using Ensharts' money to make a 3D waifusloppa, Silver Palace is what i wish a new husbando game would look liked. I wonder how long before we get a 3D gacha with an anime style since corpos are likely going to try and get the husbando market now that the waifuslop market is too crowded
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>>2006427
I wonder what cope "males don't sell" incels will have when the game launches and beats out LADs and probably hoyo
>>2006448
Seeing as Project bangbang is outranking it in the picrel despite being a 2d game happy elements really are retarded for thinking going the waifu route was the right decision especially after how bad male targeted games are doing these days
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>>2006470
Happy Elements haven't learned shit since their first attempt at waifuslop flopped, they should've just made Silver Palace a husbando game by genderbending all the girls and it would've gotten so much attention.
It's retarded that moid corpos saw genshit's success and what they got out of it was "let's alienate normalfags" and thought that would work somehow
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>>2006426
Who knows. The account that posted that game on twitter only said
>No, dev herself said she didn't want to make a game that was only for otome games. Usually, only games that explicitly mention otome games are considered otome games. female-oriented game encompass much more.
when someone asked if the game was an otome.
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>>2006591
This could either mean its not romance focused so more emphasis on gameplay with male fanservice or that the mc is either ambiguous or can be male/female. Either way the guys so far are really pretty but I'll hold out my opinion until I see how it plays.
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>tanned guy is overwhelming the most popular pick amongst both CN and western fans
Makes sense since his design is the closest you'd see from most fantasy otome games, further proving that corpos need to stop forcing boring kpop looking men that all look the same at us
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>>2006629
Its nice not knowing 90% of the kindled before the banner goes up for once. I'll take these silly sticks in the meantime.
>>2006694
Yeah somehow I doubt the actual kindleds are going to be this lewd since the hints make it sound like its going further than the nightly rendezvous banner
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>>2006490
I wish the boys didn't look so average. Japan has better designs and colors and the only place that understands giving guys in the cast good interactions. I don't care for the new trend in gachas where it's only about characters just being into the mc.
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https://nitter.net/smolzero/status/2049280280976933005
https://nitter.net/smolzero/status/2049514373807296625
https://nitter.net/ccZeroERA/status/2049501411814392306
>ZeroEra will feature AI chatbots
Oh boy, this will definitively go well and not end like the AI chatbots featured in the other game with a name beginning with "Zero". I know writting is expensive, but renting servers for AI and making sure the models don't go rogue is even more expensive, specially for a small company making its first project. They should at least make the models run locally on phones with NPU and PC that can run them instead of relying on expensive external servers.
The official account even deleted a reply admitting that they're using a LLM to generate custom dialogue for each character and player, but a fan account that is in their inner circle mentions that this feature was planned from the beginning:
https://nitter.net/smolzero/status/2049514373807296625
https://nitter.net/ccZeroERA/status/2049521055866491007
Also the MC will be a gender neutral being.
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>>2006926
nips unironically have the "here, Japan" syndrome and will usually be biased towards products made in their own homeland no matter how shitty it is or how much the company is screwing them over by using their money to fund other projects, so they're really just doing it to themselves.
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>>2006931
I don't understand the need for chatbots, if i wanted to write delusional fanfic about having a convo with a character I liked I'd just go to character.ai plus this isn't an r18 game so they're not even gonna let me have spicy convos with them. just get a decent writer or something.
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>>2006926
Enstars recently got strict with their guidelines too. Removed the free MV outfits from tour events, you have to buy it with cash, and you cant post about the stories on social media consecutively (snippets are fine) or the SPPs. They want people to roll the cards completely blind now. Every update gets greedier and more time-consuming and nips slurp it up like good dogs.
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>>2006917
I really hope Japan locks in with the Fragaria Memories game. And make it global, even the waifu games went global.
>>2006934
If they want to play otome, they'll play the numerous otome games they have access to instead of a gacha. The remaining audience are people who want to see cute anime boys in games that aren't otome.
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>>2006938
>I don't understand the need for chatbots
It's to make you develop a more personal relationship with your husbando (sonfu?) and spend more time and money in the game, and to please dumb investors that always want to add trendy things to projects (this time being AI).
The official account claims that IA is only being used for these chatbots and that everything else (art, plot, characters, music, etc.) is human made: https://nitter.net/ccZeroERA/status/2049522977042239512
But with how much westoids and nips hate AI Yomio should do a stream explaining those details and mechanics before rumors spread.
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>>2007124
My guess is that it'll be like zerowake where you have to use tokens in order to chat with them aka an easy money maker. If its intuitive enough I'll use it often and also since they confirmed a dorm feature i hope they raise enough so we can get a 3d room feature that's all the rage in recent 2d games like nikke/gfl2/etc
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>>2007136
>dorm feature
>everyone expects "intimate" events specific to each character in their room
>it turns out to be a daycare center where you babysit everyone at the same time
How would (You) react to it?
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>>2006946
>Every update gets greedier
not surprising consider now we know where all that money is being funneled, Happy El has been trying to chase the waifukek crowd for years just like every other moid corpo and Ensharts just exist to fund those waifushit projects until they succeed
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>>2006299
https://x.com/CaseyTheVA/status/2049554456094953717
Any of you tried NTE now that it's released?
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>>2007579
Nah
I don't really want any of these omni open world gacha anymore. Open world as a genre could do with being out away for a while. BotW did unimaginable damage to the games industry
Come back when it's majority or exclusively male at least
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>>2007772
finally got mine this morning! seems like each letter is unique or at least not everyone is getting the exact same oneprobably used AI if its the formerbut still a nice gesture. I can't wait to meet you Zero~
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>>2007773
>probably used AI if its the former
Scroll up the thread. It was confirmed that the letters were written by AI and that they are a "sample" of chatbots that will be featured in the game. The devs claim that these AI chatbots will only be used to make personal interactions with the characters feel more unique and that every other part of the game is 100% man-made, tho.
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>>2007776
I'm guessing since the one I got was different from this one >>2006931
also from the official twitter account themselves:
>Zero is writing personal thank-you letters to some Navigators who've pre-registered (This is also a sneak peek into our in-game character interaction system—we're testing it with you! )
so yeah most likely made with AI lol but mine was cute and didn't seem very generated imo so it must be a good systerm
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>>2007779
Oh huh, somehow missed that post. Some parts of the letter kind of meander in a way that feels a bit AIish but if it's just optional stuff like this then whatever I guess. This line is kinda cute.
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>>2006931
I thought this was a parody of AI written messages but I'm supposed to take it seriously. It sounds so bad.
Literally why not hire writers? Or english speakers? Don't rely on AI to be your english communication
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>>2007802
they're using it for the art or story writing but for the chatbots so compared to the drama with NTE that used on everything this is nothing, anti-AI is being more widespread especially in games because players don't want to pay for generated slop, this is common sense.
the devs just need to clear up that its being used specially for that one feature, or get rid of it entirely since no one was asking for it in the first place.
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Where Winds Meet has AI chatbots with affection levels and I skip all of them. That level of engagement is too exhausting, if I have to drive a conversation myself I may as well talk with real people. Systems like The Ssum were already too much
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>>2006350
>I'd even swallow if it meant getting Emet as a LI
Otome from Ishikawa would be godlike. The atrocities I would commit for thatand also Hyth. There's a void in my heart only the likes of Hyth or a very similar boy can fill
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>>2007819
I feel like its going to be infinity nikki flavored otome or something. Idk, just feels like they'll be preoccupied with flexing their technology over making a fun game. Hope I'm wrong though and seeing that they have a dedicated engine team is great news, maybe it wont be bloated like most ue5 games
>>2007830
Based. Hansa is great too.
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>>2007269
god i wish we weren't stuck in omnislop and chink realistic 3D hell, it's ironic that some of the most unique and sexo boys i've ever seen are from FGO...when will nips lock the fuck in and make a joseimuke that doesn't play like outdated slop?
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>>2009017
hard agree that fish had an amazing card this time, but also kinda loved the scene(s) with Caleb and his bionic arm (I'm kind of a sucker for that trope and I dig whenever his bionic arm is shown off in the story and esp when it's actually shown)
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since LaDs current cards came up, just wondering--if anyone read/watched Sylus's card, what happens if you choose to shoot instead of not when it comes up? I'm guessing the game finds a reason to force mc to not shoot regardless but I was too chicken to choose the shoot option
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>>2009074
Same. I love Caleb's possessiveness and yandere side which drew me to him, but Rafayel is also like that and it's evident in his lore as well. I also have a bunch of his cards that I never worked on leveling up since I play as Gege.
>>2009102
That part of him is also so interesting and how that ties with him also being a Colonel.
>>2009230
He pulls the trigger himself but he doesn't die since Sylus isn't exactly human. MC would be the person to kill him but it would have to be via MCs aether core/evol powers to really kill him
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>>2008086
ahh takasugi. him, yan qing, merlin, oberon, douman, taigong, asclepius, moriarty and kondo all really do it for me. if only they weren't in that goddamn game. i despise how the overly bloated cast means that you're practically guaranteed to not see your favorite for literal years if there's no dev favoritism (pic related between like 2018-2022). and that's after the waifu bias, even
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>>2009624
i play fgo purely to collect husbandos so i just skip every waifu unless she's a support for my boys, fgo is ass when it comes to gender ratio but at least the Valentines day scenes are guaranteed for everyone...the quality of them varies though so i'm happy Takasugi's is extremely (you)bait bc husbando fanservice is caught between "being treated as a friend bc moids don't want to feel gay" or "having slight you(bait) but it's never as blantant waifu pandering". The one thing fgo has going with their boys though is their huge design variety
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Ms President, a second realistic 3D otome has hit the tower:
https://files.catbox.moe/43ewfr.mp4
https://xhslink.com/m/9jTD8XswwtJ
The game is Last Serenade. They released the trailer right after Silent Whispers' trailer so no one noticed it lol.
There's a 4 months old interview with the developers discussing the features and goals of the game: https://news.17173.com/content/01292026/173423606.shtml
But basically they are using UE5 as base and want to have AI-powered features like puzzles and levels that are generated on the spot. Some bits from the article translated with DeepL:
>Its AI-integrated gameplay offers greater freedom than existing otome games on the market, and its design direction differs from common AI companion apps. Last Serenade occupies a middle ground between the two, presenting a hybrid product format.
>First, in terms of user experience design, Last Serenade adopts a dual-track structure, clearly dividing the overall experience into two interconnected parts: the Main World and the Mirror World.
>Set in a postmodern metropolis, the Main World serves as the stage for companionship, dating, and daily interactions, offering an experience closer to the dating games players are familiar with.
>Through ongoing conversations, dates, and everyday interactions, players advance their relationship with the character, reinforcing the sense of stability and sweet daily life inherent in a long-term romantic companionship.
>In contrast, the Mirror World centers around "endless dungeon runs".
>In the Mirror World, the game centers on AI-driven story-based levels to create a narrative-driven Roguelike experience.
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>The so-called “infinite loop” is not merely a repetitive challenge; rather, when players re-enter the same dungeon multiple times, the narrative path is no longer fixed but is generated through a combination of player choices and real-time AI interpretation. In terms of level design, the rules and core narrative framework are established by the content creators, while the puzzles and narrative twists within the 3D dungeon environments are dynamically generated. The goal is to provide a differentiated experience for different players while maintaining the overall direction of the story.
>According to the developers, the sense of immersion in this aspect is closer to that of a murder mystery game or an offline escape room. Players will simultaneously act as both director and actor, adjusting the story’s parameters based on their own choices and gradually piecing together the full truth through exploration. Unlike existing AI puzzle games, the development team prefers not to limit AI usage to text-based dialogue prompts; instead, they aim to “personalize” everything from the narrative to the player’s experience, thereby achieving an infinitely replayable gaming experience.
>Enhanced by the immersive perspective of a 3D RPG, the game further amplifies the sense of companionship and presence. During exploration, players will encounter the male protagonist, who acts more like a “playmate” traveling side-by-side with the player. Driven by large AI models, he can respond to the player’s real-time actions, allowing interactions to go beyond preset options and fostering more spontaneous exchanges within the framework of his character. He can move freely within the boxed-in levels, interact with the player in various ways, and work together to solve puzzles and advance the story.
>In terms of presentation, the game does not adhere to a single narrative format but instead interweaves dialogue-driven storytelling, cutscenes, and free exploration within the same experience.
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>>2009837
>According to the developers, the sense of immersion in this aspect is closer to that of a murder mystery game or an offline escape room.
I'm not crazy about the AI thing but this aspect sounds interesting.
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>>2009837
>3D realistic artstyle again
>AI sloppa
We're going to be stuck in LADS clone hell for the next few years aren't we?
I really hope at least one corpo uses their brain and makes something with an anime artstyle instead just trying to ride LADS' coattails
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>>2009876
Tbh i'm not mad that we're more 3D games for us but it's just disappointing how it's all just LADS clones so far. The one good thing tho is that it means LADS will get competition if either of these gains a decent enough playerbase, I just wish we had something like Silver Palace or even HSR style husbando game.
Hoping that the Sanrio joseimuke will be at least something decent but we've got no info on it since it was announced last year. My trust in Japan to make a good joseimuke is nonexistent so i don't have my hopes up
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>>2009983
The guy in the top back is one of the three leaders, same rank as the hello kitty main guy and the cinnamoroll guy alsoI never noticed until now but there's some weird glitchy stuff with hello kitty on the main guy's page
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>>2009878
>Multi media project
You already know it's not gonna be good, although I am interested simply because I like some of the artists
On that note, would be neat if they put in some maimaimaigoen characters simply because I also like some of the artists there (and vocaloid producers). They're both multi media projects, it makes sense in a cosmic sort of way
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>>2010034
He's the "popular one" as I gather.
Which is flimsy since I don't use other sites nor do I play LaDS, but that's been my impression. Although people here talk about Caleb so much I'd think he quietly took over at some point, but probably just bias
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>>2010034
tbf every other Chinese otome has a "mysterious" LI with short silver hair.
It predates Sylus. But new ones are starting to morph into Sylus because the Chinese really are allergic to originality. Because OF COURSE what the world needs is yet another Chinese otome about parallel timelines
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>moid still seething /here/
Did the waifushart gachas flop more then usual on the meme chart this month?
You'd think waifucucks would actually support their games instead of pissing themselves over joseimuke they don't play
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>>2010083
hoyo's most "ML" game underperformed even worse than usual, the newest waifu-onlies flopped bc these retards don't play the games made specifically for them and apparently wuwa is planning to release more males to attract more women into the game
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>>2009800
>The one thing fgo has going with their boys though is their huge design variety
very much agreed. it's one of the few things that keeps me with the game. nearly all the otome games posted here are filled with copy paste looking boys designed to look as generic as possible to appeal to the absolute lowest common denominator. no risks taken whatsoever. it's sleep-inducing. i have many many criticisms of omni games like fgo and hsr, but at the very least the male designs have a lot of variety outside of "half of them look like The Singular Manhwa ML Design"
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>>2010070
>It's been done to death in Chinese manhua.
personally i'd say it's been done to death in literally everything. even mainstream movies (365 days) have tired this garbage out. not even beating a dead horse anymore, but rather beating its crumbling bones. enough of this shit
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>>2010144
>at the very least the male designs have a lot of variety
yes, I too do love the variety of heavily covered dark haired guy who shows up once, lighter haired fully covered guy who shows up once, redheaded guy (fully covered except maybe a forearm) who shows up once. Funny colored haired guy (fully covered if you believe it!) who shows up once, silver haired guy who....
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>>2010125
and they usually wear bland fucking suit and tie ensembles. might as well tuck me in the way i'm being put to sleep
>>2010169
1. coping skills honed through years of fucking bullshit and sunk cost fallacy
2. the fact boys from other currently running games don't appeal to me
3.bisexuality
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>>2010169
1. Use FGA to automate the farming for you
2. Login to collect currency and roll shiny new toys
3. Listen to voicelines by top tier seiyuu
4. Read the story on Youtube
5. Enjoy fanart on Twitter
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>>2010144
>those designs
Are cn otome afraid of making their boys actually unique looking or something? Because at least nips actually use different colors for their LIs picrel.
Even the most slop jp otome doesn't have guys this bland looking unless the company hired a really shit artist
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From Zeroera creator:
"A third of 2026 has already passed. In the gacha pools of major mainstream secondary game developers, new characters are constantly emerging, and their popularity is rising and falling.
However, among these faces, there wasn't a single young boy or teenager.
This is not a new problem. It's a problem that has been shelved for far too long.
Some say there are too few players who like shota boys. Others say this group doesn't have enough spending power. Still others point to the revenue and say the market has already given its answer.
I don't accept this answer.
In 2024, like many fellow fans within the circle, I am indulging in a simple daydream -- if I were a game designer, I would definitely create a strong male character.
There shouldn't be only one track. We've come together not because this is easy, but precisely because it's difficult enough—so difficult that no one else is willing to do it, so difficult that only we can do it.
Fortunately, I met a group of people. They are not content with fantasies; they choose to take action. Like me, they believe that there should not be just one aesthetic standard in this world, and in this industry.
The road ahead is long and arduous. There are too many uncertainties, too many doubts, and too many "impossibilities" ahead. But I know this: every great category was once declared "impossible." Every memorable figure was once a blank "new folder."
Because you believe, you see.
We are not just making a game. We are seeking an account for a kind of love.
Rebuild the glory of the young hero, it is our duty to do so!"
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>>2010325
>Some say there are too few players who like shota boys. Others say this group doesn't have enough spending power. Still others point to the revenue and say the market has already given its answer.
This is why I'm worried about the presence of AI chatbots in the game. Some parts of live service games are notably more expensive to maintain than others, and AI-driven functions are one of the most expensive elements at the moment due to the amount of resources needed to generate content of acceptable quality AND continuously supervise the AI to make sure it doesn't produce undesired results. So for an indie studio with a limited budget working on their first project aimed at a niche within a niche, the cost of maintaining these AI bots on top of the usual costs of doing a live service game (continuous development of new levels and characters, translations, music, voice acting, adding new elements to the economy that have the risk of breaking it, dealing with rabid fans and haters, etc.) has the risk of becoming bigger than their potential source of income.
I know these features were planned early in the development, and I applaud their dedication to making their dream shota game a reality, but honestly I would prefer that the devs begin with a smaller (and less expensive) game and add those more costly features once a steady source of income has been secured. I hope they prove me wrong and the game and its AI chats become a success.
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>>2010088
>hoyo's most "ML" game underperformed even worse than usual
Not surprising. ZZZ is fucking awful with how MLfags thought hoyo's main audience was waifushitters and not normalfags. Yenless zero is only still alive due to HSR and genshit's revenue being funneled into it
>the newest waifu-onlies flopped bc these retards don't play the games made specifically for them
Waifushitters are a minority that can't hold up any game by themselves. They'll piss and cry about "muh males are killing the game" when the biggest and most mainstream games are omnislop and not waifukek onlies.
>apparently wuwa is planning to release more males to attract more women into the game
Wasn't there rumors Kuro wanted to make an otome game too?
Judging by how waifukeks aren't exactly happy with them anymore I wouldn't be surprised if they were making more males to see what'll attract yumes
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>>2010309
it is better compared to the average omnislop just for the fact that it's not afraid to give males interesting designs and sexo outfits, the gender ratio is still pretty off but they at least give their males more story importance and screentime and you've got a lot of personality types to choose from
>picrel is a father and son btw
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>>2010376
Because Japan actually has artists that care about making good unique male character designs compared to every single chink omni gacha that keeps inbreeding designs bc they all copied genshit males and called it a day.
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>>2010382
they did, but since nips are outdated when it comes to trends so they made it an arcade game. it died when arcades fells out of fashion, it was also kinda janky looking too
>>2010386
it's the one thing i think jp has over cn but corpos in nipland are slow as shit when it comes to adapting so none of them have managed to make anything on the level of modern chink 3D gacha let alone a joseimuke, it's a damn shame, i'd kill for a 3D jp gacha with male designs like fgo
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>>2010382
you mean open world? probably bc jp is allergic into putting effort outside of art and voice acting and why do all that when ur low effort gacha already makes enough bank?
also bc they probably saw what happened with endfield and new 3d omni games in general and don't want to repeat another tribe 9
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>>2010395
>tribe 9
Tribe 9 should never have been a gacha. The designs didn't appeal to anyone outside of Danganronpafags and they don't play gacha. I'll never understand why jp thought it was a good idea to use the weird ugly ass artstyle of that franchise for a new gacha IP when the biggest selling point of gachas are the pretty characters.
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>>2010376
Going off a reddit post from last year the numbers are
>149 male servants
>246 female servants (minus summer: 188 - number is calculated by subtracting the summer mode servants, which is 60 and then adding a few more because some servants are only Summer in costumes and ascensions, specifically Mash, Lady Avalon and Aesc)
>21 unknown servants (minus summer mode: 19, Caenis and Okita Alter are unknown)
So that's 38% male 62% female, not counting the unknowns. If you exclude summer dupes it's 44% male 56% female. Can you actually name a popular gacha with a better ratio because I can't think of any, outside of the Shounen Jump/Gundam ones
>>2010382
Fgo's strength is in it's story and characters, it hinges entirely on the writers who operate as a small doujin circle, not even kidding. They do last minute rewrites and delay things to ensure quality they're satisfied with. You can't have this with a 3D gacha which needs much more time to prepare assets in advance. If you force it you just become another hoyosloppa that shits out garbage in order to make the min word limit
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>>2010382
They know 2D games are better for the mobile market.
>infinitely less expensive to develop and maintain
>consume less resources so they can reach a wider market
>don't have to pay fees to Unreal/Unity and making a 2D engine it's easier than a 3D one
>2D artwork ages better than 3D models
>unless you heavily limit what you can do in 3D games, 2D games will always be easier to play on a touch screen
3D games with free movement only make sense if you plan to release them on PC and consoles.
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>>2010148
I don't even really get it
The archetype is often not written in a fun way and it comes off as cheesy and shallow. Is the appeal mostly just getting off or something?
Only character of this archetype I can think of that I liked was Jumin in Mystic Messenger, which is owed a lot to the general tone and direction of the game. He spends most of it being funny autistic cat man, and his friends pester and bicker over his more paranoid tendencies in his own route so it feels about as awkward as it should. I'd still take the twins and Yoosung first, but he's alright
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>>2010725
Why are joseimuke in jp so obsessed with multi-media slop anyways?
I swear that if it's not some shitty music project then it's a shitty drama CD project that results in the property either being super niche, obscure outside fandoms, or it dies bc of both factors. Why not just make a good game?
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>>2010767
Multi-media isn't always bad but companies are always flying too close to the sun trying to make their brand new, bland characters to be some sort of obsession with fans that will make them profit less from the game and more from making it an IP to release merch and other shit for.
Hypmic was purely a multi-media project that started from music and lives, had a relatively big popularity boom until it was left out to die (games were also not very good either).
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>>2010319
>Are cn otome afraid of making their boys actually unique looking or something?
sure seems so and i hate it. it's my absolute least favorite thing about those games and the reason i either dropped or won't play any of them (minus lovebrush for cael aka the only long haired one)
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>>2010767
My best guess is they're still afraid women will not play video games
Which is funny, since it's completely backwards from my preferences. I will never consider a drama CD, I am picky with music, but a vidya with cute boys and/or nice visuals? Sign me up
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>>2010767
>Why are joseimuke in jp so obsessed with multi-media slop
This isn't exclusive to joseimuke and it's not new either. Pretty much everything has a drama CD or a stage play or a manga to go along with it.
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>>2010767
>Why are joseimuke in jp so obsessed with multi-media slop anyways?
It's to milk customers as hard as possible.
Imagine this, while you wait for idol manager card game #2349 to come out (or after the game is out and before it's put into maintenance and eventual EOS), you can prove your devotion to generic pretty boy #47592 by buying posters, pillows, cups, audio dramas, novels and toilet seats featuring it. By the time you admit the game is garbage and it was all a scam, the company's fat executive will have already retired and used your money to buy a house in the country.
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New SensUltra CBT starting on May 21st
https://x.com/sensultra_2026/status/2051945379797844317
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>>2014353
omnislop makes less and less each year and every new waifu-only game is flopping harder than ever, the only unsaturated market left is for women and with LADs being the only competitor its no wonder other big corpos are speeding to be the next big money maker, I wouldn't be surprised if Ananta gets pushed back to prioritize this game
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>>2014480
my life for even just one game like this.
I like otome elements, I like and play LaDS, but damn what I wouldn't give for just one dev to wake up, see the hugely untapped market, and push out an open world game like nte or ananta without all the waifuslop
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>>2014511
Same. But moids unfortunately don't understand any of this, look how many corpos are scrambling to make LADs clones instead of making a more unique husbando game, they just see LADs' money and think "yeah i can make that too". If anything we'll keep getting LADs clones until it becomes oversaturated and then moid corpos will try something new, like an actual anime artstyle. It's baby steps. I fucking hate it but unless corpo moids realize they can't all be the next LADs, we're stuck with 3dp and Sylus alts.
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>>2014547
I don't want a male mc option just for the fact that it insures moids won't even touch the game. Fem only mcs with a male only cast are one of the best ways to keep people from asking to add waifus in the game, plus I doubt any chink corpo would have dating options with a male mc with how fujos are getting jailed for making porn in chinkland currently.
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>>2014549
The official pages list the game as a "3D open-world AI-companion romance mobile game", which makes me believe that it will be a chatbot with minigames rather than a real game.
Full trailer: https://files.catbox.moe/9dai13.mp4
Links:
https://xhslink.com/m/4BHAAsKf5gR
https://weibo.com/u/4024016197
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3D photorealistic uggos
AI chatbots when women are less receptive to AI
Hardware-intensive in a time of hardware shortages
On PC but not MacOS, SteamOS, or Switch 2
Traits of games from execs who don't know their target audience
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Seeing all these ugly ass (and effortless) LADS clones popping out left and right make me believe I'd rather patently wait for an otome game with a combination of anime artstyle, elaborate 3D gameplay and no generative AI anything to come out, but the chances of that is slim, much less if they're made by a team of only women who genuinely give a shit about what they're doing.
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>>2014776
Besides Silent Whispers I can't see any of the others doing well, no one asked for a watered down version of LADs with less gameplay and features, might as well make another cardslop gacha at that rate.
Unless they actually have something to offer other than temu version of LADs men they'll likely bomb and then moid suits will get uppity again because we didn't throw money at their lazy attempt at "pandering". Fucks sake just give me (1) 3d anime husbando action game.
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>>2014906
They should appeal to (Me) specifically and make PSO2 but as an otome game. Your party can be the boys as NPCs. It's already space/sci-fi so it works. Also keep in the symbol art feature so I can send them crude images when I lose in blackjack.
The possibilities are endless, but they choose 3DPD chatbots instead.
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>>2014776
I find a fair amount of chatbots users are women, so it isn't entirely odd
It is however sloppy corner cutting. Not wanting to invest in writing dialog so they just leave it to a bot to talk about how minor revelations hit him like a physical blow.
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Lovely blonde boy now has a gun and drip
https://youtu.be/_0WRFJFhtTI?si=r6OTCPvEUOFORbkI
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>>2014789
The cn corpo gacha sphere is just following whoever is the newest trendsetter and unfortunately for us it's LADs. Moid corpos will only see the shit like romance and the 3dp artstyle while not understanding that LADs sticks out bc it also has gameplay. So, unless we get another hit husbando gacha in an anime artstyle with good gameplay we're fucked until further notice.
>>2014822
>Unless they actually have something to offer other than temu version of LADs men they'll likely bomb and then moid suits will get uppity again because we didn't throw money at their lazy attempt at "pandering".
This. Silent Whispers looks at least promising if the openworld part is true and it's from Infold's rival company so at least it's legit, the other shit is just AI chatbot sloppa and if they flop then moid suits are going to just blame us for not being good piggies and slurping up low effort imitations of LADs.
>>2014906
Majority of moid suits still think women don't want gameplay or even an interesting battle system. It doesn't help that there are retards in the joseimuke community crying about not wanting to play "difficult games" (anything that isn't rhythm or cardslop). As for the anime artstyle...it would be a miracle if a corpo figured out we want something other then 3dp.
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>>2015148
>BL
No chance from China. The CCP is mad at fujos again for some reason.
JP is too dated and haven't made a good gacha in years.
Taiwan is the only option for another BL gacha that hopefully isn't a rugpull.
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>>2015157
>The CCP is mad at fujos again for some reason.
Apparently BL is the only thing keeping women from settling for ugly fucks and shitting out a thousand babies, so the CCP is doing another crack down on anything that makes women horny, including CEO romances
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>>2015147
>there are retards in the joseimuke community crying about not wanting to play "difficult games" (anything that isn't rhythm or cardslop)
I fucking hate how the success of LADs brought in so many normies that never even touched an otome or games before but now get to dictate how every big budget otome gets to be, same bitches that absolutely would use an ai shitbot bc the only literature they consume is cheap romantacy books. I'm praying that silent whispers has some kind of combat system or so help me.
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There's a rumor that nu government's devs are helping N+C with the development of their own moba which is why they agreed to the collab since they have 0 trust in jp gacha devs after the VR fiasco lol so if it goes well maybe >>2015148 could happen.
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>>2015126
honestly feel bad for webtoon sisters the devs do not give a shit about that kusoge and keep cheapening out of everything. like they just had a collab recently and all the "new" merch uses existing cgs and default character portraits, no actual new art, pretty depressing.
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Companies that posted job openings for 3D otome games:
Alibaba
Tencent (Light and Night)
NetEase (Onmyoji, Ananta, etc.)
IGG (Tomb Raider) There was even an article saying it's in development
+ Someone received a contact from the HR person at Kuro Games (Fate/Grand Order) saying they need scenario planning personnel
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>>2015581
These fucking retards are just doing this now? Lmao had to take 5 other omnislops to tank before they realized that market is gigasaturated while infold raked in all the yume bucks.
Anyway if even one of these suits have half a braincell they'll know that the way to stand out now is to make an anime styled husbando only game.
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NTE news:
>Dating with men will soon become a reality!
>In version 1.1, you'll be able to invite guys. The first lucky ones will be Baikang and Chaos.
>It was also discovered that there may be home clothes for Baikang, but there is no news yet for Chaos.
>Baikang lovers, your time has come.You still won't be able to date 4-stars characters like the shota tho.
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>>2015596
Chinese women have to fantasize about marrying rich moids because they're discouraged to do anything but become submissive wives to a manbaby that will never see them as an equal, so might as well get with one that has good money.
This is for the best because it'll do the opposite that the ccp thinks and will just make more women independent and strive to be rich by their own means which will lead to more joseimuke corpos led by women who only need their virtual husbandos.
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>>2015611
>source: trust me bro
>most likely made up by fake leakers to try to save their kusoge after women refused to play it and others dropped it over the AI drama
>even if true they still need to have a skin available to access the room feature which is even less likely
>even then your only choices are the white haired uggo that looks like an npc and the short haired uggo that looks like a dyke
>cute elf boy and blue shota likers never
What is the fucking point even
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>>2015418
I'm not gonna lie, I'm not sure how I'd feel with the next N+C entry being a gacha/mobage because I'd still want them to release a proper VN. They did have their try at mobile releases before with a game nobody knows about, and while the mobile market has changed now it still doesn't replace the feeling of a VN.
Plus, N+C games have always been quite edgy. Mobile regulations would make it so something like Mink's BE or the entirety of sweet pool wouldn't be a thing.
I'd be happy if it was some sort of "collect all characters of all previous chiral games as they do stupid shenanigans" kind of thing like the fandisc minigames used to be, which keeps the relevancy of older games afloat as a fanservice thing but just not a full on new game.
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>>2015652
All Ananta showed was 3 ultrageneric dudes, at least NTE has this elf who is made for being pinned down and brutally raped.
The shota is also very cute and I'm not even a shotafag.
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>>2015637
Here's how I see it, the VN industry as a whole has been hit with financial difficulty now in the current age of smartphones, a bunch of them went into the moba market not bc they wanted to but its the one thing keeps money pumping out enough to help them found their future VN projects and keep the lights on.
When NC announced they were working on a gacha during the livestream (1-2 years ago iirc) many pointed out that they didn't seem too excited like it was something they just had to do to earn more money. Now jp is already infamous for sucking shit at developing gacha esp ones aimed at a market outside Japan and the global revenue is more important than ever to them since they're pumping money into translations.
In comes NuC, THE most popular BL moba asking for a collab, their dev branch has already made several successful games and they're constantly pumping out merch that sells like hotcakes. This is the business relationship opportunity of a lifetime to get a jp gacha game that doesn't look like it was made in 2002 and bugs out all the time plus with their connections will have a simultaneous global launch and since Taiwan has no censorship laws they can be as edgy as they want thru the erolabs ver.
Now this is all hypothetical but as long as whatever they're planning works out it will just be another venue to fund their actual VN projects, and everyone winsalso Aoba and Eito make out sloppy style.
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>>2015581
Kuro made Wuthering Waves and Punishing Gray Ravens.
Fate Grand Order is a JP property made by Typemoon/Lasengle that pre-dates both of those.
I do believe the rumors though, ever since LADs blew up there's been a lot of info that chink corpos are now considering moving to greener pastures (husbando market) with the oversaturation of the waifu/omnislop market. The only one with no future plans for a 3D otome is Hoyo currently. Which I think is for the best considering how they've treated ToT after all these years.
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>>2015918
You got it wrong.
Petit Planet is Hoyo's Animal Crossing clone set in space, which I personally think looks cute and has a big chance of eating Nintendo's cake if the NPCs are interesting enough (AC's biggest issue is that villagers can't stop repeating the same 5 phrases of worship) and specially if Hoyo doesn't go full jew with the gacha. Petit Planet's direct competitors, besides Animal Crossing, are Heartopia (which launched a while ago, is notably more focused on player x player interactions than AC, and currently seems to be involved in a controversy for using AI and... for racism?) and Animula Nook (which visually mogs PP hard and had an alpha test last month, but gameplay-wise has more RPG elements than AC since you wander in a garden beyond your town/room to do some things).
The game competing with Roco Kingdom and Pokemon is Honkai Nexus Anima, but that game is complete trash in every way and probably began as a minigame in Genshin. For starters, the game is an autobattler, and the monsters and "trainers" are bland to the point of being offensive (the mascot is a dog with a camera stuck in its ass, while the characters are just NPCs from Honkai and Genshin). I heard that the reception for the first CBT was so negative that Hoyo is practically remaking it from the ground.
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>Silent Whispers
Literal open world game
>Every other LADs clones announced so far
AIchatbot puzzleslop with less than half of LADs budget
Kek I almost feel bad for the other copies, imagine thinking you could safely ride the imitation wave before SW got announced cuz no one's remembering the other games by next month lol
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>>2016921
Twst has one of the slowest main chapter releases i've ever experienced in a gacha, it took them 6 years to finish going through the NRC dorms and now it'll probably take just as long to go through the RSA dorms. The game is held up by the fanbase that's majority disney otakus and some normalfags. The jp part of it is ok but the westoid half is an obnoxious hellscape filled with moralfagging. The boys are cute but the game itself is ass.
>t. former twstfag
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>>2016956
I’m aware of how long they take to release a chapter, surprisingly with book8 they went fast. But my main thing is that it’s just diabolical to release new characters that most likely will be part of the main cast and then disappear for months
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>>2016956
>the westoid half is an obnoxious hellscape filled with moralfagging
That's true of any western fandom in general nowadays. How else are you gonna find a reason to ostracize and isolate someone in the same fandom?
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Yana writes the mainstory chapters and draws/approves all the character designs i think, she's the main creative director of twst but other people do write the events while she reads and approves the stories
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>>2017506
ganbare nakamura-kun just got made into an anime recently and it got pretty popular. the westoids who just found out about the anime got mad because they think the teacher character is flirting with one of of the boys plus the mangaka used to write shota bl. They harassed the mangaka online and she ended up deleting her twitter
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>>2017428
nakamura-kun was inevitable bc pandering to le wholesome chungus crowd will always bite them in the ass because puritans are never satisfied with anything they latch onto.
zeroera has the opposite problem, being a shota game already filters 90% of those people so I wouldn't worry too much. If anything them screeching about zero being "problematic" will only serve as good advertisement to the actual target audience. my actual fandom worries are attracting the edgy lolicon crowd that never shuts up about culture wars and their unfunny forced memes.
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>>2017506
>I thought westoid fujos are always asking for "le wholesome" yaoi
The problem is Nakamura-kun ISN'T 100% wholesome, and even though Syundei even requested for the anime to be "made for a general audience" (which led to some of the "less wholesome" scenes to be removed), people still harassed her.
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>>2017592
>nakamura-kun was inevitable bc pandering to le wholesome chungus crowd will always bite them in the ass because puritans are never satisfied with anything they latch onto.
Except it had nothing to do with pandering to the "wholesome" crowd, and everything to do with having to deal with Japan's retarded ass censorship that only seems to show up when it comes to mainstream BL anime.
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>>2017864
I agree with that but I was mostly referring to the author herself asking for changes like completely erasing the teacher scenes to make the anime "healthier" which made no difference bc she still got her ass chewed by antis (not that I blame her for it, she thought what she was doing was for the best).
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>>2016956
Westeren fandom is busy begging for girls to be in the game. This is why joseimuke fans can never enjoy anything. Representation rules makes Westoids think girls in gacha are for women, and that only male centered whores would like men in games.
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>being a shota game already filters 90% of those people
thankfully
>the edgy lolicon crowd that never shuts up about culture wars and their unfunny forced memes.
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>my actual fandom worries are attracting the edgy lolicon crowd that never shuts up about culture wars and their unfunny forced memes.
The ZeroEra subreeeeddit is already full of jokes about wanting to bang the shotas so it's probably too late to stop them.
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>>2018028
Reddit is gonna reddit but I just hope when the game releases places like twitter where actual artists and content creators frequent will come up with original jokes instead of recycling forced lolicon "memes"
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Never seen such hatred from jp sisters than from the garumani shit that is still ongoing. Only thing I know about this game is people calling it an industry plant.
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>>2019256
Seems like a combination of everyone hating the social media guy for being a habitual retard and the game using the otome label when it isn't particularly. There's implications and bait, but no traditional otome content.
Them niggas haven't even given the new characters their affinity chats yet after 3-4 months. Or the R cards for that matter. Don't know if they're waiting for their second chapter or what
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>>2017996
Blame twitter. Fujos used to have their own spaces in forums but now everyone is in each other's business and they have yurifags, yumes and straight moids all teaming up to talk about how fetishizing it is or that they're "male centered" and should be writing more yuri fic of the waifus. You can't say you don't want a female character in a joseimuke game without being called a misogynist now because they're not in spaces where they can be with people who are on the same page.
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2D card autobattle slop, but with PVP as a main feature. You can play it without doing the PVP, but it'll be slower to unlock the story since you get a lot of resources from it. This is how they drive whales.
Story itself is MC getting cursed then whisked away to a secret SCP school where they try to break her curse. In the meantime she assists dudes with demon pacts in defeating anomalies, and very gradually looks into the mystery surrounding a murder on campus and the shady dealings of the institution. Technically horror themed, though feels more like drama/action. A little bit of SoL as well since the band and beach episode(s) weren't very spooky or dramatic.
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>>2019397
The story/characters are why I kept playing, so I do think the plot threads are interesting and I'd like to see where they go. It just also has an issue with meandering a lot, or at least laying entirely new plot threads while not particularly answering/developing existing ones. Can't quite call it "really good" as it is. I guess it's inevitable, having to stretch the story out over the game's life while rotating a 20+ character cast, but still. Even the MC got frustrated about it since she's physically dying and they're sending her out to play with men on an island.
Updates are monthly at least, so no waiting and wondering for new chapters.
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>>2019410
I should have elaborated, calling the zeroera shotas our hot sexy boywives is not only good but necessary in order to gatekeep them away from puriteens and the like and I encourage such behaviors as much as possible. What I don't want to see is the fandom just becoming the girl version of the western moid lolicon community not only because most lolipedos are actual predators irl but they are the a cancer to otaku communities as a whole because of their obsession with inserting politics into everything and constantly getting into fandom wars because they're so easily ragebaited.
At least most puritans have the excuse of being naive teens who will eventually grow out of it but moid lolicons are grown ass men constantly making up scenarios to get mad at while contributing nothing of value to their own fandom except le funny animu girl saying slurs and crying emoji spam coined by an actual irl pedo.
Since it would be a kind of niche game it would be nice if it would go the way of nucani where 90% of the fandom is just sisters sharing and enjoying sexy husbando art and homegrown memes while blocking undesirables instead of engaging in ragebait.
TLDR: talking about sexy shota legs - good, rehashing unfunny moid memes instead of creating your own - bad and cringe
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>>2019513
I mean that's obvious by the fact that the devs actually care about the game having gameplay and the MC not having a specific gender, which is great for me personally since I'm a fujo and shota is less popular with yumes than BL media so it makes sense. The game can target who it wants as long as I have my cute datable Shos and a fun moba I'll be satisfied.
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it never pretended to be which I appreciate, nothing more I hate than devs lying to try and gain an audience they won't actually care for like omnishits do. that being said they do seem more than happy to appease us since they did the whole changing designs to be less bara-like and more cute.
plus, they said if the demand is high enough they'll consider adding taller bishonens which is pretty interesting
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>The devs are men aren't they?
The producer (Xiao Ji) and the people that accompany him during streams are men, and I think the founder of the company (Caka) is a man too but I can't confirm it.
Regardless, it's clear that the game will keep things ambiguous enough to let women self-insert too, even if it's just to avoid chink censorship for "promoting same-sex relationships".
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>they said if the demand is high enough they'll consider adding taller bishonens
The whole setting of the game is that a disaster turned all humans into shotas. Unless the bishies are robots/monsters/ayys/time travelers or people from the past that froze themselves before the shotapocalypse I don't see this happening.
>>2019534
The boy in that pic is Kyougoku Masamune from Touken Ranbu lol.
>i really hope there are some perverted shotas and maybe even a dominant one
Paracel (pic related) seems to be a mad scientist who is degenerate enough to modify his own body and even wear a leotard and who would do the same to others.
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correct me if im wrong but i swear the disaster/disease only stopped them from aging, not turning them overnight while possibility killing most adults so there could be older guys existing just very rare survivors
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The game is set centuries after the "Scarlet Tide" fucked up the world, created weird monsters and made humans get stuck in a permanent "youthful appearance". The adults who survived the original disaster are dead by now (unless they had an unnatural way to stay alive for so long), while everyone else is stuck in pubescent bodies barely capable of reproducing.The plot is kinda like Splatoon's now that I think about it. Both games even have beings that resemble children but technically are adults.
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>>2019608
>incorrect about dorontabi
which ones? him bragging about his 60GB+ of "child gravure" magazines, when he drew "parodies" of real existing cp videos, him mass deleting his socials once ppl pointed these things out and then the loli fandom he drew fanart for banding together to memoryhole these facts while claiming he actually deleted bc of le evil feminists harassing him?
I'll admit generalizing them all like that was bias on my part but as it stands I do not have a high opinion on lolicons, at least the ones who are men and as loud and annoying as the westoids.
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>>2019608
>seem wildly incorrect like the statements about dorontabi
I saw a korean post the other day where there were screenshots where he unironically genuinely was recommending an user where to buy child gravure books / videos and even talked about his favorite ones. And also knew about how "taboo" it was but it was "impossible to resist such cute girls", real girls by the way.
I think when you start to actually look at real children and have an extensive knowledge of where to look at more children pictures you don't have that leverage of thinking he doesn't want to fuck kids.
It's not the same if some lolicon/shotacon simply sticks to 2D and knows every 2D work under the sun, but if they say "oh yeah the kindergarten at (x street) and postal code (y-777) at (state) has such cute kids at 10am-11am when they go out to lunch. Be careful to not startle them when approaching" that sounds very pedo.
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>>2021286
they have to be getting paid by hotta, before it was almost unanimous that the game was shit even for the AI drama bc the quality of male units were laughably bad compared to the waifus. no actual husbando fan is playing for those uggos, they make genshit's mid-ness to shame.
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Sheehan tags>creampie, outdoor
>missionary, creampie
Jago tags>doggystyle, creampie, dream
>dream
>>2019256
Been laughing so hard at this the last few days, its my first time seeing an official JP account be so unprofessional and provoke its own players. The EN account also had a similar problem a few months ago kek who do they hire to run their accounts
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Maybe I was too harsh on Infinity Nikki. At least their male (and female) characters don't look like 5s omnislop mockups. And they have the right idea trying to balance a laidback playstyle and engaging mechanics even though the implementation can be wonky. In this genre we can't trust that competing games won't opt for being as braindead as possible instead.
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>>2021681
There's people here playing 3DPD-style otome and W I D E gookshit, if it's you, I don't think you're in a position to criticize malesluts designs.
I don't play Hoyoshit though. The writing alone makes me want to kms.
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>>2016112
I hear Petit Planet’s monetization system will most likely be the seasonal battle pass you can get furniture and clothing sets from, not sure if they’re gonna add anything else.
Should we make a thread about this game? It’s closed beta, but I assume some people here got in it,
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>>2022234
>I hear Petit Planet’s monetization system will most likely be the seasonal battle pass you can get furniture and clothing sets from
I would be pleasantly surprised if this was the case, specially considering that it's Mihoyo. For comparison, Heartopia relies on gacha to make money, and almost every review criticizes them because completing a furniture set or getting the desired cosmetics can cost hundreds of dollars due to the merciless gacha. Gacha isn't simply a feasible option for this kind of games where there are a fuckton of things to collect.
Roco Kingdom, on the other side, supposedly makes money through passes instead of relying on gacha, and it has been incredibly successful in China, so if Hoyo or the Animula Nook guys do something similar they may be able to become a gigahit.
>Should we make a thread about this game? It’s closed beta, but I assume some people here got in it
I'm not a fan of making waiting rooms threads where most of the content are reposts of official media, but if someone got to join the beta they're free to post about it anywhere.
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>>2022564
Apparently the Roco Kingdom passes, all seem to have stuff that can be obtained for free later
>exclusive outfits and emotes and stuff can be bought with the free currency some time after the pass ends
>The items that turn your monsters into the game's Shiny equivalent can be crafted
>even the BP exclusive monsters can be caught simply by visiting the world of a friend who has it.
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>>2022564
Does Heartopia not have a pity system? Even Infinity Nikki and I think Shining Nikki doesn't start giving you duplicate clothing pieces of a 4/5-star outfit until you complete the set once, the 2nd is to evolve your outfit and give it an alt color that can be used in styling battles, at least in IN anyway
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>>2022930
supposedly Rewinding Candance replied to a husbando enthusiast's comment about this saying their game will have more men to be revealed and they are open to suggestions and criticism from women but i'm not holding my breath until they actual show something
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>>2022991
That's what I keep telling these omni bimbos but these stupid bitches never fucking learn! I'm not into otome at all but I will pre-reg and spend on Silent Whispers before I give mixed sloppas a single cent.
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>>2023030
>give money to joseimuke devs who will use it to make more husbandos and other joseimuke games
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>give money to omnisloppa devs who will use it to make more gooned out waifus and waifu games
I'd rather give money to trash made for me than trash made for moids, simple as
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>>2022991
Don't hold your hopes up, the game will just end up being another Wuwa with 2 male roles (one female-gazed and one male-gazey) a year due to the current climate of "omnislops".
>>2022999
Yeah I don't get it either. I've even seen Gacha Grail women side with male incels and believe spending money on Wuwa clones without complaining a bit would hopefully entice devs to give them more than just husbando scraps (they won't; CN incels are constantly holding the devs back).
>>2023046
Me too. Even as a F2P, I will never give a single virtual penny to toxic-minded male devs and will instead only play gacha games that are either made by and for women or at least treat both genders fairly (even though more devs are less likely to do so due to the ongoing gender wars in East Asia).
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>>2023046
Or you could give your money to devs who don't make shit, like the NuC ones, since you said you're not into otome so I assume you're a fujo.
I just find it ironic how some of you claim to hate moids but will play games with 3DP uggos that look just like them. I just need one look at those to feel instant disgust.
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>>2023049
I honestly couldn't get into LADS exactly because of 3DPD artstyle, so I'm extremely on the fence about considering playing Silent Whispers (or not). I'd rather just wait until some lucky dev would make a 3D otome gacha with high quality anime-style graphics and gameplay so I could play it. Until then I pretty much lost interest in open world slop and FOMO and will just seek out any gacha with lots of cute boys and isn't too grindy (and isn't R18).
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>>2023115
>fujo and yume sisters who support each other
>>>>>>>support each other
>yumes
Yumes only care about their pretend boyfriend kpop garbage, Nu:C is the only BL game in the market that is actually BL and it's only "moderately" popular. That's really just enough but fujos want massive popularity and that's what I don't understand. You will realistically never get a BL game that is R199 popular realistically (the most midrange tier of popularity currently) exactly if it features porn. And a non-porn version still won't be that popular anyway.
I'll never support yumetrash, supporting yumetrash means giving way to 3DPD replacements and I don't care about those.
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>>2023148
If you read her posts, she repetitively said removing male characters from gacha games that claim to be "omni" but are just glorified waifuslops will help reduce CN incels' constant harassment of female players there.
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>>2023154
Sounds retarded, as expected of chink brain. I'm all for omnislops getting more and more husbandos to make the incels cry and piss themselves, their cries are music to my ears. Imagine feeling threatened by a bunch of manchildren.
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>>2023148
this is the first time ive posted this, not sure what you mean? CN sisters want omnislops to delete their males rather than keep baiting sisters who don't know better bc greedy corpos only have them to serve as scapegoats and get money from normies and desperate yumes, without them moids have no one to blame but themselves when their games start flopping (see ZZZ and waifu-only flops).
>>2023159
>I'm all for omnislops getting more and more husbandos
except that's never happening, at least in any established omni game that's already out. thanks to devs radicalizing incel manchildren the moment they treat us as equals the ML terrorists will start bomb threats and irl harassment of these games, why would they ever risk that when they have a dedicated pool of pickmes who are more than happy to eat their scraps?
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>>2023166
I think you know exactly what I mean, and since this isn't the first time that account is posted here, I think it's likely you're the owner.
I also think it's likely that the owner pretends to be a feminist to do the incels' interest (removing males from omnislop). Don't give me the crap about CN sisters supposedly asking to delete husbandos instead of deleting waifus, because I doubt even they can be that stupid to do exactly what incels want.
When manbabies cry you ignore them or mock them. What can they even do? And if they harass someone IRL you report them to the police and get them behind bars.
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>>2023273
Pretty sure that's probably maybe 3 or so lolcow tourists that can't stop seething about moids, omnigames and hoyoslop so they need to complain about it every waking moment of their lives and if you tell them to shut up they'll call you hoyoshill. No different from /gdg/ shitflinging. Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of posts here are /gdg/ falseflags actually.
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>>2023152
>Cheritz is so sick of Mystic Messenger
>sick of their only actually successful game
>start fostering even more bad blood with their remaining fans after the ssum shit
talk about starving then killing a golden goose lmao. if they were smarter they would've either had more dlc or made a sequel
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>>2023328
Basically it was another texting VN similar to MM, but this time it was a slow burn, months long thing. Chats had morning, afternoon, evening types of regular windows rather than specific times like MM. The story would very slowly unfold over the course of months, or something like that.
Now the problem here is, the LI wasn't cute either visually or personality wise, it missed the whole group setting that endeared you, and most importantly actually texting fucking sucked. If I remember right when you opened a chat you'd get ads before you could read it, then once you were interacting the character would often just stop replying for minutes at a time to encourage buying skips. I remember some people skipping ahead in time to see what it would eventually turn into, but the story and his character never quite went anywhere either.
This was all from its launch though, not sure about later. I know they've added other characters since.
I did think it was funny that there were ingame forums you could post on though since it was just shitposting and complaints.
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>>2023933
I'm still not over how fuck ugly the made the only LI at the time, obviously they changed it a bit after but I don't understand why they thought that the same people who fell in love with mysme's anime style would like borderline 3dp shit.
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>>2024027
So it doesn't get the otome label would be my guess, its not a dating sim but does have romantic/fanservice elements and more complex gameplay than something like ToT, so they most likely want to attract the wider joseimuke audience who like husbandos but don't care for otome games.
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>>2024027
>why would they even bother adding them in the first place?
-scares away the type of fags that beg for male mcs
-too few girls to entice yurifags who already have r1999, PtN and silver palace
-to prevent it from being only labeled as an otome
-filters out schizos
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>>2024135
It's precisely to keep schizo yumes away. Most otome nowadays come with certain expectations like LIs being forbidden from interacting or even acknowledging other people other than the mc which would be impossible for a mafia setting. The game is mean for general husbando fans who like seeing sexy male fanservice but don't mind female side characters and possible fujo bait.
>>2024141
I already played them all already now what
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>>2024144
>Most otome nowadays come with certain expectations like LIs being forbidden from interacting or even acknowledging other people other than the mc
Gay
A lot of my favorite otome were made what they are by the dynamics amongst the characters. It's fun and makes the MC feel like one of the gang, gives her some chemistry with them.
VNs still seem to do that though I haven't played one proper in a couple years, but different industry I guess
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>>2024144
>LIs being forbidden from interacting or even acknowledging other people other than the mc
I was actually shocked going through Light and Night and seeing the LIs exist in the same room and interacting with each other because of this kek.
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>>2024532
If they do welcome both fujos and yumes, I really hope the characters are either made for ML or BL ship roles, to possibly prevent potential drama due to the internal conflict between fujos and yumes in CN gaming spaces (especially in games that treat both of them like shit, see Hoyoverse games and the way they handled Neuvillette).
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>>2024063
It sounds like they want the otome audience anyway though so why not just admit it's an otome. There's no point in adding in girls when the game is going to function like an otome.
>>2024544
No one was this schizo until the Chinese games came out. Japanese games had both in the same game, same thing with pandering to both waifufags and yurifags in the same game because everyone there knows nothing is going to be canon. It's only chinks that are obsessed with trying to ban and control what people do in fandoms for these games.
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>>2024574
Because they want the joseimuke audience as a whole not just yumes.
Agreed tho, the rampant presence of schizos is because CN devs babied incels so much to the point they think every single gacha should pander to them and thus try to drive everyone else out causing a domino effect of other communities becoming tribalistic and schizo in return.
Ironically enough after that gooner game fandom that tried reporting LADs got buttfucked by the ccp, corpos are finally waking up and realizing pandering to ML schizos is not only not worth the effort but it even makes less money and more problems.
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>>2024574
>No one was this schizo until the Chinese games came out
You know nothing about Japanese spaces if you believe this
Do you know the main criticism about Utapri and Kamigami no Asobi? The Live Emotion community fighting over Haruka's (lack of) existence. Enstars fans fighting over Mao being too straight, Mao being too gay, Rei being too straight, Rei being too gay, Ritsu being too straight, Ritsu being too gay, Arashi, etc. It's a constant balancing act of pandering because unlike the west Japanese yumes and fujos hate each other's guts
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>>2024708
Never said there were no schizos in jp but that they're not as rampant and as commonly extreme as CN. With jp groups that hate each other they will block and avoid each other and rant in locked accounts. Its rarer to have irl confrontations bc jp culture as a whole hate that shit. Meanwhile in China bomb threats, ratting to the ccp and paying for trucks that project complaints in giant letters is normalized.
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>>2024156
>A lot of my favorite otome were made what they are by the dynamics amongst the characters. It's fun and makes the MC feel like one of the gang, gives her some chemistry with them.
strong agree. i used to be huge into diabolik lovers back in the day and the most entertaining parts were seeing the boys interact with each other either as family, as rivals pissing each other off, or just fucking around in shitpost scenarios like in the tokutens. this is one of many big reasons i couldn't keep any interest in LADS. seeing the boys ONLY interact with mc and 2 other characters got very stale very fast.
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>>2024826
>DL1
>Basically everyone avoids Kanato when they can because not even those freaks want to deal with his schizo ass
>DL2
>Best boy Azusa absolutely fucking clowns on him left and right
Seeing characters go about their day like that is really a large part of endearing them to you. In particular I really like seeing them do stupid guy shit together. Bustafellows, Variable Barricade, Even If Tempest, Mystic Messenger, that kind of thing.
They're all intended to be straight, obviously, so I never thought it was a fujo thing. What's the point
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>>2024595
>Ironically enough after that gooner game fandom that tried reporting LADs got buttfucked by the ccp
i don't care about or play LADs but seeing waifukeks blaming LADs for their waifuslop getting slimed by the ccp has been hilarious, the constant melty over "muh evil feminist cabal" or "muh LADs players did it" where they think their porn game getting censored is clearly the fault of women and not that the game was breaking ccp laws kek
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>>2025429
Infold doesn't care about the story bc they know majority of yumes that drop thousands on LADs only care about new content for their boy. Infold won't risk pissing off their playerbase to have the boys say "hi" to each other, they want to milk LADs until they can't anymore
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>>2025400
Is it about the snowkek game isn't it? That game constantly had shit sales on the meme chart I'm impressed by their stupidity for not expecting the impending EoS.
It was also the game that always caved in to incels increasingly unreasonable demands but they still wouldn't spend on it. This shows that this type of people has no money (as you'd expect since they're probably jobless shut-ins) and is not worth listening to.
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>>2025578
bingo.
that game was the definition of waifuslop and still sold like shit, the melty when the ccp smacked it into silence for months and when it came back it's been completely censored was crazy funny asf, especially after waifukeks were bragging about how "muh evil feminist and LADs players couldn't kill" only for them to abandoned it after they realized the girls weren't almost naked anymore kek
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I noticed that yomio.cn (ZeroEra's studio's website) now redirects to zeroera.global and that the links to Yomio's female AI assistant and Bilibili's account featuring their old commissioned animations were removed. Only the preregistration form for the game remains.
I also noticed that one of the slideshows features two boys that AFAIK haven't been revealed yet. Since they are in some kind of lab with the brat cyborg brat Paracel, they probably are his assistants or his experiments.
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>>2026430
Nobody in the westoid sphere knows how to tag their shit and keep stepping each other's toes, you've got fujos asking for a male mc in otome games and yumes telling fujos to fuck off for making ship art of the boys bc they don't have an actual tags for the ships. It's a fucking mess over there bc at least nips will seethe at each other but stay in their lanes, chinks are more territorial and bigger schizos but they're good at gatekeeping so if someone starts shit then it's bc they were looking for a fight.
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>>2026482
>you've got fujos asking for a male mc in otome games
That's fags, fujos would just pair the LIs with each other
>yumes telling fujos to fuck off for making ship art of the boys
Those yumes are such babies, people are free to make fanart of whatever, it's not hard to use a one-click twitter block extension
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>>2026796
It's not just fags, I've seen a decent amount of fujos crying about wanting a male mc because "waaah, i don't want to play as an icky woman, i want my mc to be a gay man". I don't get why they don't just play a BL game, I know not all fujos are like these losers but this is the reason why yumes don't get along with them.
>it's not hard to use a one-click twitter block extension
It's also not hard to post yaoi ship art in the main tags for an otome game. I don't care about ship art but the least people can do is tag their shit properly, every nip fandom I've been in at least has tags so nothing mixes. Look at twst, it's a regular joseimuke and they have tags for fucking everything from yume art, to yaoi, to genderbends. Why are westoids so disorganized?
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>>2026831
I guess they could use tags for pairings, but if you use the main tag, why can't they?
If they like a niche pairing it would be hard to find their stuff.
I think yaoi art of otome games is already a niche, they probably think nobody is going to check specialized tags.
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>>2026848
>but if you use the main tag, why can't they?
Because majority of the tag is going to be people looking for self-insert art. Yumes are territorial enough about their boys, seeing ship art just makes them angrier. It causes annoying drama.
>If they like a niche pairing it would be hard to find their stuff.
I think yaoi art of otome games is already a niche, they probably think nobody is going to check specialized tags.
Bullshit. If the niche pairing has any kind of fanbase then a specific tag would be better bc then anyone interested in it can find it no problem. I like niche shit in other fandoms and having a tag for that one ship is better then wading through oceans of unrelated stuff I don't care about.
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>>2026831
>Why are westoids so disorganized?
Despite being self-loathing weebs they look down on comfomist japs hiding their fetishes from normal view. And they equate masturbating to m/m with gay rights so if you don't like it you're a homophobe
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>>2027144
its always the newgens, the fujos saying "gay rep" are 99% trans in denial and they don't tag shit for the same reason they refuse to tag top/bottom dynamics bc they genuinely think they're doing activism.
thankfully these kind of ppl don't influence the actual games but i also wish others would stop indulging their same retarded arguments for the 100th time and mass blocking instead of giving them the attention they crave.
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Disney announced a new mobile game titled "Disney Sparklink Stars", which is being developed by the makers of Stand My Heroes and Promise of Wizard. No more details have been given, but considering the name and the devs involved, it probably will be like Twisted Wonderland but with heroes instead of villains.
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I saw people saying that SensUltra is like NuCarnival, but it also has some LADs shoved in there as well. You've got a missing big brother that's also a LI, a dead grandma, ultracores (protocores) and beasts (wanderers)
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>>2030208
Its like nuc in terms of the coding/UI bc its literally the same developers (nuc is managed by its own women-only creative team which is IA, they only hired sg arts for the backend so don't get it confused), the gameplay is candycrush-esque so if you like puzzles you'll like this. As for it being like LADs the only thing I've seen is the touch mode where if the SSR is leveled up enough you can undress him (even to the point where his cock is out but personally I think showing dick outside of porn scenes is a bit crude just imo tho).
Yes the MC also has a brother but its already clarified by the first chapter that he's not blood related sadly but they did grow up together and he has the same hair color so you can still pretend. The story or LI tropes aren't anything new or mindblowing but they fit well with the story and are likable.
It's pretty promising so far my only biggest concern is the art style especially for the faces a bit eh but that can be fixed more easily I'm guessing. I'll def keep tabs on this since its one of the first BL games post-nucani that actually looks decent but ofc its bc its from the same coding team lol.
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>To celebrate 520 Day, Caka posted a new art of Zero where he is doing a "520 World Love Zero Day" livestream. The comment box asks, "Could you pull your coat down a little? Please!"
>520 Day is an "internet holiday" in China because "520" sounds almost exactly like "I love you" in Chinese.
The game had better let me say things like that to the shotas, or else I'm going to sue everyone for false advertising.
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NTE is confirmed to have male dorm and dating features and as expected, moids are seething about it and calling the game "LGBTQ".
Still not gonna play a game that has bait husbandos in it as I have developed a open-world/omnislop fatigue for a while (dropped Genshin around Sumeru and ZZZ midway into season 1, haven't played anything else) and I only plan to play and spend on games that are made by women (and support women who invest in such) from now on regardless of content.
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>>2031023
AFAIK when it comes to gachas R1999 and PtN are mostly made by women, and most of the games that are frequently mentioned on this thread are also majority made by women as well, but that is not enough. Anything else, I'll watch playthroughs of joseimuke games that are made by moid corpos but I won't expect much out of it, story or character wise.
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>>2031193
>as someone who has never touched a single open world gacha i do wonder what that's like
It's basically just a downstream of Breath of the Wild -> surgical removal of the good parts -> Genshin -> rest of the genre
The exception to this is NTE, which appears to be GTA but as a walking simulator. However I have not played it nor GTA.
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>>2030997
It's really a pity they don't want easy money from the other side of the audience, I'm playing the game because I enjoy several aspects (driving and playing mahjong with malesluts) but I have zero reason to open the wallet if they don't get the same slutty skins as the girls.
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>>2032021
Believe it or not the devs probably think they did a huge sacrifice giving us the bare minimum not only bc of how hard the incels are chimping out about it but it must have done so much mental damage to the moid character designers being forced to make male skins for the first time in their life. It's like how a deadbeat husband expects sex and 3 consecutive blowjobs for washing the dishes once.
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>>2032342
>Release teaser for most popular waifu's new banner
>Chuds chimp out because her new design looks ugly
>They post AI-generated edits where she's wearing her current bikini top instead
>Devs respond in record time...by also changing her top to a bikini top
Kuro is always quick to respond when it's the chinkcels crying lmao. The main waifu's redesign also got backlash for turning a conservative design into retarded goonerslop, but that was the objective so of course they can ignore that. The males might have good reception, most comments might be supportive, but it's that one faggot who goes "I'm skipping him for the upcoming waifu" that they listen to. So they shrunk their male lineup to 1 every 1-2 years.
No more omnishit in 2026!
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>>2032981
That would be nice. Especially if they could bundle in the event stories for Prince/Vampire/Villains since those are not only limited time, but many of them were leaderboard ranking rewards, so barely anyone will see them. This is also despite the event stories having a light continuity.
Sengoku does have vita and switch releases, although it's japanese only, so I don't know how complete it is compared to the game. I assume Ranmaru still didn't have a route in it. I have been waiting like 6 years for that twink.
A release for Revolution would be nice too since they don't work on it anymore. Could preserve it and fill out the white rabbit's route since they never released it. Speaking of, that game even has a wereshota, where normally he's a shota but turns into a man at night or something like that. He was cute and bratty
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>new visual card
>its an AU where eito is a sacrifice to the fox god kuya
>second visual is biting and bloodplay
are you kidding me i just spent on his bday card im gonna go broke
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Another otome (Crush Abyss) just launched (in China). It looks like it's a dress-up game with dating/romance mechanics.
Who knows if it will get a global release. The game has an English name along with its original Chinese name, but some users are already complaining about how parts of the game look AI-generated which implies a lack of budget.
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>>2036133
/vg/ is the fastest board on 4chan and is around 80 times faster than /vmg/. Generals there have to keep bumping their threads every 20 minutes to stay alive. Even /vmg/'s gacha drama general would struggle on /vg/.
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>>2036133
No way dude. There was a day and a half between these two posts >>2033769 >>2035576 and you think we can go to the undisputed fastest board on the site
This thread has mostly just been shitposting about omni games while waiting for updates and releases anyway. Eventually I will be able to play the shota game.
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>>2036019
Gray haired guy could not look more generic if they tried. The others are a little better.
Outfits, at least some of them, are copied and pasted from Nikki. Worst offenders are Whisper of Waves and Whisper of Waves but shorter.
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https://x.com/AKEndfieldJP/status/2057788312526725436
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>>2036881
AK males are safe inoffensive slop made to appeal to moids who want "cool heroes".
Genshit designs are equally boring and safe slop, but the boys are designed to be cute and appeal to the female audience.
Can't believe you've made me say something good about Hoyoshit.
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>>2037109
I guess I don't know about Endfield much, but I'm not sure how much dudes would like the dragon boy with his pits out. The first game has way better boys overall though.
Hoyo shit's art direction and designs suck ass so I'd still put them lower. There's a supply of alright dudes but having been away from the game for a few years, there's no one I'm like "yeah I miss this character". Closest is Heizou, but at the same time I also remember his reveal getting posted here and thinking "wow I've never seen such a nothing design". Scara was alright until they downgraded his outfit and had in-universe retcons to make him a dindu nuffin.
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>>2036133
The Twisted general is mostly /cm/ spamming to keep the thread bumped. The Enstars general died, I guess the schizos weren't mentally ill enough to keep it running
Can LADS schizos keep a thread alive? Maybe someone can try but most people with 3-digit IQs don't care about /vg/ that much
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>>2037127
I think the best course would be to wait for more games to come out and thankfully we have at least 3 on the horizon but the question is do we actually want a thread there? That one sister said it's for schizos and we already have the resident hoyoslurper, the resident /gdg/ squatter and the bitter moid who cries about real women not wanting him here so idk how going there won't just attract more insecure incels
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>>2037135
I'm not sure about the tourists, I feel like /vg/ is more insular since it isn't really a board, just a collection of individual generals. If you go there then you're just going to be typing in the name of the general in the search bar and ignoring the rest.
But the constant bumping inspires worthless behavior. Ritual posts, blog posts, gay ERP, general shitposts. Last time I went to a general to ask a question, it was ignored in favor of circlejerking about a guy that got banned for samefagging for 100 posts. Going there is asking to be boiled in a pot of shit
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I saved the pic from somewhere else. I was tempted to play the game for Edgar and to scratch my itch for a new GTA-like game, but almost every character is ugly as hell and the gameplay vides makhe game look like if someone had modded GTA5's assets in Genshin without including GTA's physics engine that let you destroy things. Endfield's world and graphics look better at first glance, but none of the characters look interesting to me so I keep ignoring the game.
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the new final fantasy gacha easily has my fav boys out of all the new gachas this year, but that's mainly because i'm already familiar with them plus the gameplay sucks so i don't even play it anymore kek
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>>2037407
I like the gameplay since I used to play League, honestly vast improvement at base design. Really like these 3d models more than LADS. The character interactions have been fun even if it's mainly text. It just sucks knowing this game is just a quick buck for Square so it's not gonna last long.
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>>2037515
I just hope that when they eventually EOS this game they realize there's still a lot of potential in the modern Japan setting and all the character interactions, and use it to make a better game in the future.
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>open NuC after today update
>Checking Resources took much longer time now compared to a few hours ago despite I found out there is no new data to be downloaded
>It's faster if I use a VPN before I open the game
>It's much or less normal inside the game itself even without VPN
I hate how fickle internet is
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>>2037682
Not really sure if it would change anything too drastically desu. A lot of girls are projecting onto one character or the other. What FF guys without LI would be considered anyway, WoL, Firing, Onion Knight...?
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>>2037549
Nta and i have no idea about that but after playing twst for a time and looking up the manga/anime for it...it's extremely geared towards fujos.
>Yuu has no design in game
>mc interactions with characters are generic and barely matter
>mc is a camera with legs especially in the later stories
>boys interact more with each other and have multiple established dynamics among themselves
>almost no for (you) interactions and any self-insert bait is miniscule stuff
>only character that's kinda yume friendly is the autistic dragon that's so lonely his only friends are his close family members and statues
Not surprising that this game is heavily fujobaited when Yana an oldschool fujo is the one in charge of it. I'm amazed yumes manage to keep playing twst when even omnislop/waifuslop like fgo has more yumebait then it. Fgo is massive waifuslop most of the times but the guys there unironically have more yumebait then something like twst.
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>>2037971
I mean hasn't that usually been the case with jp joseimuke games like enstars and others? It's only after recently getting exposed to CN games that theres the precedent to lean more to the yume angle and making the MC a bigger part of the story outside romance games.
>>2037977
they're the ones that invented it tho?
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isn't the point in being a yumejo that you ship yourself with your fave regardless of the consequences because they're fictional and its your fantasy aka a dream = yume?
back in my day yumechads would ship themselves with married fictional men, men with a canon endgame, mere concepts and even yaoi boys and now you're telling me newgen yumes will schizo out if her fave and another character make so much as make eye contact? pathetic
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>>2037971
>>only character that's kinda yume friendly is the autistic dragon that's so lonely his only friends are his close family members and statues
Not only that, but the only thing that kept Malleusfags coping that he was for (You) was that he considered (You) his only friend, but this stopped mattering as his actual chapter came out since Lilia (shotajiji dad) was called his friend by Malleus. Yumes still keep coping about it to this day. There's never a shortage of Yume butthurt on twst I really don't know why they stay kek
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>>2037992
NTA but Enstars I can understand since Happy Elements literally said they made Mao and Izumi for the yume and fujo audiences respectively. Games like Idolish7 and A3 I get too. As for twst, when I played in the early days it didn't seem like they were actively courting yumes apart from a self-insert MC that is strongly implied to be a boy anyway.
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>>2037601
now now, it's ff14 that would make the big otomebucks, given that many hot guys have substantial interaction with the customizable mc. picrel doesn't even include other heavy hitters like haurchefant and zenos
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>>2038042
>I really don't know why they stay
Probably bc even with all the fujobait the game itself will never be an actual BL and twst has things that attract yumes regardless,
>unique character designs
>Disney based IP
>no faced mc so anyone can just make their own Yuu
The last one is a big factor since yumes love making their own self-insert. The manga having multiple Yuus and showing it's 100% possible for the mc to openly be a girl in NRC made yumes happy. Plus they don't exactly have a lot of options in nipland, majority of otome games are on console or pc.
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Semi-unrelated, but I feel like the current state of JP joseimukes is best modeled by YOI.
>Mappa rolls out a 10th anni visual and an updated webpage for YOI
>to announce a "commemorative 10th anni version" of the blu-ray set and an "upcoming exhibition"
>majority of the jp comments: "thank you so much!" with one or two adding "Still waiting for the movie!"
>every other language reply: "where the fuck is the movie", "you only remember this series when it's time to milk the fans with merch", "fuck you mappa, still haven't forgiven you"
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>>2038744
>makes a series about a gay ass skater and the gay ass ex-skater that wants to fuck him
>the movie would have had nothing to do about their relationship and focus on teenager Viktor
That alone should have told everyone that Mappa didn't give a fuck. But also fuck Mappa for making an anime version of Yarichin Bitch Club and then censoring all the sex scenes
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>>2038767
Unfortunately shounenslop is full of desperate fujos/yumes that will glady consoom and buy merch if they like the boys. It's been this way for decades, corpos know they don't "need" to make quality anime aimed at women when shounenslop already does that and gains normalfag/moid attention too. JJK is full of fujos and yumes that'll throw mountains of cash at Gojo and Geto merch. Mappa has them trained like seals. At least we do get some good not shounenslop anime every once and a while
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https://nitter.net/ccZeroERA/status/2060338550986485948
>【Character Profile × Animation Preview】Zero
>Name: Zero
>Birthday: ?
>Identity: Sisyphus Crew Member (Mascot)
>Class: Attack
>Element: Nature
>Affiliation: Sisyphus
>Likes: Spicy food, horror stories, extreme sports
>Dislikes: War, pollution, hunger, death
>【First Encounter】 "Navigator"... that means the one who leads everyone forward, right? Well... if you ever get tired, let me hold your hand and lead the way sometimes too~
>【Greeting】 Whenever things get hard, come find me anytime. I'll take it upon myself to cheer you up, Navigator!
>【Touch Interaction】 Navigator's hand is so warm... it feels nice~
Some thoughts:
- Zero's voice is really cute despite the ugliness of the Chinese language.
- The proportions, detail and animations of the chibi sprites have improved a lot since the last time they showed footage of the game.
- You can move the characters by carrying them like puppies, so cuuuteee (and at least Zero points his butt at you when you do it).
- I wonder if this "touch interaction" refers to their reactions when you literally touch them while in battle or if it is the friendship system they mentioned early in the game.
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>>2038943
Something with great animation, good storytelling, well-written characters, story that isn't ashamed that it's aimed at women, and isn't just half-assed fujobait to sell merch only for the money to end up funding moid shows while the women watching it get rugpulled.
People talk about YOI like they're surprised Mappa decided to take the money to make shounenslop when fujos actively fell for the most mid bait in existence and didn't see any redflags after no 2nd season announcement and the movie getting shitcanned. YOI didn't even have the balls to show an actual kiss with the entire show being the most vanilla slop I'd ever seen. YOI was the definition of fujobait as an anime.
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>>2038998
what confuses me to this day was that mappa specifically opened a BL animation branch bc of YOI and to make more original BL shows but whenever I hear "they had to abandon YOI bc the rights holders were making it hard to make money" or "the movie was cancelled bc of creative differences" I just think, just make another original BL then? why close the entire branch and waste everyone's time.
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>>2039017
I'm usually thankful JP fandoms are more "chill" or at least vent their frustrations in private instead of constantly getting involved in pointless internet drama like chinks and westoids do but its spinless shit like this that make me wish they'd at least take a page from their CN sisters and do a bomb threat or two
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>>2038885
Too bad the devs are Chinese and can't add a bacha bazi mode that turns Zero and the others into belly dancers for the enjoyment of oil barons.
But I guess since ZE is a niche game without competitors, the chances of it getting whales are higher compared to waifu games and even most otome and BL games (which frequently use the same webtoon/LaDS archetypes), or at least this is what I want to believe.
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>>2039055
It's probably in reference to how the game is set in a post-apocalyptic world where a supernatural disaster polluted the world and almost wiped out humans. Zero and the MC's crew are some of the remaining survivors that hunt monsters to farm a magic mineral that is used as fuel.Also the Harbingers are Conquest, War, Famine and Death, but only Death is explicitly named in the Book of Revelation.
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HSR has another male-focused update:
https://youtu.be/lW5ndcGuw2c?t=29
hoyoslop is trying to appeal to the fujos here.
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>"Wait, is that me?! How did my profile get out there…? Navigator, when you’re done reading… what do you think? You have to tell me, okay~?"
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>>2039016
Seems like they might've had plans to make more BL but probably dropped it after realizing they could just make shounenslop with the money they made off YOI. Shounenslop is usually established by the manga so there's already a fanbase for it, making it easier to sell. Original BL not based on existing source material is more of a gamble. YOI was a special case since it was inoffensive enough for normalfags but had enough bait to attract fujos. I heard about the rights holders problems too but don't know how true it is.
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>>2039259
>I need the faggots to look at the screen and declare they are faggots or else its not real gay representation
What's funny is butthurt YOI fans still crying over that shit when Mappa also did Banana Fish and Saranzanmai, so obviously MAPPA doesn't have a problem with homo shit
The real issue is the show creator dragged her damn feet and was betting everything on a shitty movie that wouldn't have sold. And if you think anyone would have given a fuck about a movie about teenage Viktor you're lying to yourself.
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can't speak on the yume crowd as a whole, but i've seen many japanese/korean/chinese fanartists shipping their mcs with the boys. plenty of them have been making art consistently for years too
>>2038239
i have faith. even when dawntrail hardly had any at first, arcadion brought in some nice ones
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The Ayn-Alkaid animosity continues in this world too I see, heh. I'm glad Lovebrush lets the guys interact with each other. Now if only they would explore upon it with the modern counterparts.
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>>2041242
Damn, really? I was just thinking about getting back into it. I probably still will, but knowing they're discontinuing JP voices doesn't give me a good feeling about the longevity of the game. Also no more KENN really sucks...
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>>2041405
Okay, the situation honestly isn't that bad. The Japanese voice acting will still remain being done for everything aside from the four listed, it's not as heavy of a blow as I thought it would be. Still sucks, but at least not everything is losing JP voice acting.
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>>2043222
fucking purists ruining everything again, tho I was thinking it looked like a matador outfit too but that would be a bit weird considering the event is obviously in solaria where its hot as fuck but guess we'll see
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>>2043546
Not about edmond himself just that his outfit was culturally appropriating belly dancers or something which was funny bc you could tell the artists were trying way too hard to not make it look like one whereas Velvet React went all out withiy when their Arabian themed event came but more ppl were mad about the NTR lol
>I hope we get more summer bulges
Bulges are for tops only, you're more likely to get ass shots instead
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>what did I miss this time?
twittertards crying muh orentialism. The funny thing was that the complaints were only about wife's outfit, I don't remember seeing any about grandpa or Eiden, who by their logic shouldn't be wearing clothes like that either.
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>>2043566
No one truly gives a fuck about MENA people and their asstarded allu ackbar and their fuck ass religion. I don't even know why they try to defend them so hard just because their brown and muzzie. They chimp out at vague inspired belly dancing outfits while ignoring the wanton abuse of women and children in said countries.
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>>2044289
honestly glad to see a r18 otome do relatively well (or at least well enough to stay around for six months) I hope it keeps it up desu
Also, the Ashen unit for half-anniversary is pretty nice gotta admit
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>>2045778
Those (you)less bait post are done by some schizo moid from the drama thread. I just came back recently and remembered that the revenue meme chart is out, moids only post revenueslop here whenever LaDs is topping the chart
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>>2046712
yup also has uncensored panties which is like one of the most argued points that moids say other games don't do which is why they supposedly won't spend money on yet here they get it and it flops completely.
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>>2046686
the reason they cling onto the "males don't sell" argument is to take attention away from the fact that they don't spend on their own targeted shit, loli banners flops, uncensored goonslop games flop, waifu only games flop, "bro" male units flop, etc etc.
it was so vindicating seeing yenless zero cucks shit their pants over Billy's shit sales and trying to put the blame on husbando likers despite 98% of them having left the game long ago and their game increasingly losing more and more money each month after caving into MLschizos, they get what they deserve.
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>>2044289
>half-anni has special pull tickets
>it's just for a version of the standard banner
They got me for a second, but I'm going to hold these tickets for a bit just in case
>>2046659
>Also, the Ashen unit for half-anniversary is pretty nice gotta admit
agreed. I was sad when it was just an outfit for the event originally so it's good to see it get a card as well.tail could be fatter but I've seen worse
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>>2047424
Based. Also today I learned that this old video of a naked Zero is real and 100% official and not an edit as I used to believe:
https://nitter.net/ccZeroERA/status/1856363812066111771/history
I hope the final game has moments like this one.
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>>2047466
ZW, VH and the other porn games are ranking so low because Sensortower only tracks the SFW versions of the games available on app stores that almost no one installs. The revenue of the main/lewd versions is completely unknown, but obviously it's higher than what memecharts show.
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>>2047474
I know that but unlike Valkirie ZW was much higher in the first few months of its release, the fact that it's making almost half of what it used to means even the nsfw version is crashing, like I predicted that relying on webtoonslop wouldn't last for long but jesus
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>>2047499
Everyone but underage webtoon fans who have never played a gacha in the past knew that ZeroWake was a blatant chashgrab made with zero effort that would require a miracle to live past its first year.
What really surprises me (in a bad way) is how EVE AI made $1.5M while being just a chatbot with some pre-recorded video and audio. It's no wonder why many of the "LADS clones" are doing the same thing.
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>>2047555
China is obsessed with AIslop, billibilli is filled to the brim with this shit so they're gonna keep pumping it out bc its cheap and their ppl will gobble it up. Its no wonder that NTE devs were genuinely shocked at the pushback their generated assets got when it released on global, chinks are far too gone with that slop.
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Reign of Nightfall is out in China.
The game is fully dubbed in English, so a global version is very likely to come out soon.
Gameplay video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_GHJlbEg9A
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>>2047863
Someone actually made a guide for registering a Bilibili account to play the CN version:
https://old.reddit.com/r/ProjectBangBang/comments/1tx0t9r/guide_on_how _to_play_the_game/
But personally I would wait for the game to be available in a region that doesn't require your phone number to make an account.
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>>2047052
All that matters is they look good, it's just they usually don't. I think the speedo works on Olivine, but the bra is I assume because of his sex chains and they wanted to match it with something. I think it should've been like a towel around his neck instead or something
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>>2047624
>muh AI
AI fanart from pixiv looks better than 90% of manmade art, I'll never understand the spergs crying about it.
If I wasn't such a lazyfuck I'd use AI to copy Koyu Shurei artstyle and make myself a hardcore yaoi porn game.
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>>2048548
I saw some EN fujos defending it with "erm why are you being so ungrateful they literally can't afford to make another season/movie but are still being nice enough to give you something" like yeah milking the yoi fan's money so they can fund more shounenshit how could I be so rude
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>disliking lazy ugly generated slop makes you brainwashed
Play Zerowake, Dragon traveler and that one AI BL game exclusively then, if you can't see why people with more than a single braincell don't want to be charged the same amount of money for AI "art" you deserve to only play sloppa games.
And these people wonder why we can't get higher quality games when they keep giving these AI corpos their money.
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>>2048577
>Aaron is 2nd lowest
Do I need to start whaling specifically to boost his numbers
>>2048579
If I had to guess, it's because he's the youngest of the group. It could be skewed based on the meta as Leiknarr and Tyr both have good cards.
>>2048614
Indeed. You vote for your boy either through an affinity item or via the event daily quest, though you can spend gems and/or cash to get more quest runs.The whales are scary, for reference I have 50 points as a f2p and the top 10 all have 1000+ points. Granted this event has physical merch as one of the high ranking rewards so that could be why they're gunning it
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>>2048631
>You vote for your boy either through an affinity item or via the event daily quest
I see...I feel bad for the Erik fans then, I prefer to not know that my fav LI is the least popular one kek, also judging by looks alone I would've thought that either Sheehan or Jago would be the least popular
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>>2048579
This is just my opinion as someone who picked him for the launch free SR and usually loves the cutesy/younger LIs, he is cute but he’s also kind of annoying in a realistic way sometimes. Dont like his porn scenes either. He’s written like someone who is afraid of writing an actual moe younger guy that the MC can dote on. His VA does a good “onee-chan” and moaning though I’ll give him that
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>Looking up something
>Find out they FINALLY released Ranmaru's route in Ikemen Sengoku
Holy fuck it's been 3000 years
>And they're releasing an act 3 as a new game in english soon™
Odd since at least in english not everyone even has an act 2 but alright
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>>2047702
Even then they had to shoe in that ugly Sylus dupe. It's like every single one of them decided that their suits won't approve the project if they don't shove Sylusface somewhere in the game.
Also sadly I see idiots spending money on those chatbots too. Just go fucking talk to Deepseek or some shit instead.
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>>2048619
>Play Zerowake, Dragon traveler and that one AI BL game exclusively then
The problem with those (1st and 3rd, 2nd is fucking waifushit) is not the AI, is that they picked shit artstyles to copy. If they looked good I wouldn't care if they're done by AI or human.
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>>2047806
someone pointed out that r1999 also had a EN dub at launch and then released global after so the odds of RoN doing this are very high.
Between this, zeroera and sensultra I finally have new gacha games to play thank fucking god.
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>>2048231
>AI fanart from pixiv looks better than 90% of manmade art
You're so full of shit. You must have absolutely no standards whatsoever if you are seriously defending AI art. Not even from the "muh ethics" perspective, it looks like fucking shit.
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>>2048665
This is exactly why incels got every industry kneeling to them and fujos are fine accepting scraps, at least nips. Western fujos are similarly cucked because they believe in all the discourse about fetishization.
Even look at how all the gacha subreddits like the Queens sub is now almost wall to wall Wuwa and Hoyo. Initially people shat on Wuwa for the incel fanbase but the mods are huge losers so they banned anything critical citing it as "tribalism". This is why we never get anything. Incels refuse to tolerate anything that doesn't pander to them, but "queens" have to simp for every incel company, saying that these waifus are for lesbians and "serve cunt", and being happy with two men a year. You can't fix them when they're this cucked and when every mod on reddit is a retard.
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>>2048766
>westoid fujos have the means and freedom to make BL but are too busy obsessing over muh fetishization
>japan fujos have the freedom to make BL but too cucked to stand up against greedy corpos
>chinese fujos aren't pussies and regularly grab devs by the balls if they do something they dislike but actual BL is banned in their country
once again Taiwan is our only savior
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>>2048743
True. Aislurpers are the most consoomer brained paypigs corpos love feeding slop to. They are the embodiment of "Don't ask questions. Just consume product then get excited for next product" kek.
Anyone who willingly pays full price for low effort ai sloppa made to reward lazy, greedy corpos deserve to get shit on.
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>>2048766
The Queens sub is a fucking cesspit with how much they tie themselves into knots trying to justify omnislop companies treating them like shit. All their complaining and crying about "B-but we rolled on all 2 yearly male banners! Surely the omnislop corpos will respect us more now that we've shown them we'll literally throw money at scraps!", and then wonder why moid corpos walk all over them. If you show them you're willing to settle for less then less is all you'll ever get. It took LADS being high quality with actual gameplay making fuck tons of money for people to notice that maybe we shouldn't let moid corpos take advantage of us.
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>>2048774
>resorting to insults
If you want to change people's opinions to match yours you should provide good arguments, but you're incapable of doing so. Your approach will only make people act contrarian because nobody likes being told what to do or what to think.
AI was a complete non-issue to me before and is a non-issue to me now.
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>>2048781
that chinese schizo on xitter was right that its literally an industry standard now for omnislops to only plan for 1-2 males a year because they know cucksisters will lap it up, anyone thinking this will ever change is a fucking retard
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>be japan
>fuck the jrpg industry by making realistic ugly looking triple a slop no one wants
>final fantasy is now unc media, younger people don't care about it anymore
>gachas suck ass and all their merch is boring acrylics of the same 2 poses
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>>2048783
I wasn't trying to change your mind bc most aisloppers are too consoomer brained for that. I like making fun of ai slurpers for having no standards. But if you want reasons why ai is bad then here's some;
>no actual human effort or original ideas being put into a product but still priced as if it is
>the only people that benefit from ai slop are greedy corpos that don't want to pay human artist and writers
>ai slop being devoid of new ideas and lacks actual creative vision so all you'd get is regurgitated trash with nothing new
>gives corpos the excuse to be lazier bc now they know they can just pump out garbage if they don't get backlash
I'd rather commission an actual person to draw shit for me. What's the point of paying for slop that any techbro in their basement can generate when I can get something original from real artist that put time and effort into their craft?
People like Yana whose art and writing will be remembered for years, but there are no "artist" in ai because ai doesn't make anything original or personal.
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>>2048783
you said you don't care if a game uses AI as long as it looks good but any corpo that soley relies on AI doesn't care about looking "good", they only care about it being "passable" enough to sell to the masses and make a quick buck.
aicucks aren't artists that's why they have no eye for aesthetics, vision, art direction or anything they can't copypaste from chatgtp because they don't give a flying shit about the final product as long as they can sell it to suckers.
>I'd use AI to copy Koyu Shurei artstyle and make myself a hardcore yaoi porn game
then you're better off sticking to DLsite than thinking ai corpos care about specific artstyles and not mainstreamslop that they'll ask the ai is the most popular to copy
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Do you bitches do nothing to complain?
Why do you want to get your fujo/yume fulfilment out of gacha games?
Just play an actual proper game. Be it a dedicated yume game (there are TONS of them on switch and old PSP shit, you have no excuse) or a dedicated BL game.
If you want "a good story, actual gameplay" then play a proper game like Persona or Fire Emblem or the like.
And if you don't like either then stick to reading shitty fanfic or whatever. I don't know what you people are even looking for. Just handsome looking males? No wonder you'd be willing to defend slop in that case
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>>2048832
Alright, finally some points I can consider.
I honestly don't care much about whether I'm paying an artist or someone using AI, I only look at the final product.
However since AI is cheaper than actual artists I would expect funds to go somewhere else, such as more animations. You can have AI animate an entire scenario instead of that same one drawing that moves with live 2D.
As for originality, even without AI, you'll see people copying successful things made before.
In any case, I'm looking for porn here, I'm not expecting anything revolutionary. Just get a decent writer. And ideally fun gameplay.
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>>2048874
i don't know if you've noticed but that's every single thread on this board, nay this site, there's even a whole general created to bitch about how much gacha sucks. if you don't it like it you're free to go back to r/queensofgacha
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>>2048857
>good story
>persona
atlus has to be even less female friendly than hoyo kek. they ignore their female mc, they don't even let the male mc have any homo routes. being a female fans of atlus is being a cuck. we complain because the industry sucks and there's no point in lying.
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>>2048879
Just because everyone else does it doesn't make it any less retarded. And you're avoiding the question, what do you want to get out of gacha specifically if you basically hate everything about it? Historically pretty much all gacha games past and present have all been waifufag bait. Touken Ranbu (not a gacha) opened the path to making male-only cast joseimuke profitable. But ever since then there's still barely any games.
Most of the complaints here are about the omnipandering demon, but you're not gonna change anything
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>>2048857
Anon, I already play actual games. I play gacha to get sexo boys that are found in those gachas that I can't find in console/pc games. Also Persona is turbo waifuslop and FE hasn't been good in years. There isn't a single good husbando centric game in the AAA market.
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>>2048857
I don't know if you are aware but the joseimuke console scene is also kind of dead, you can replay old games but the grievances remain the same
Telling ppl to cope with Persona or FE is hilarious, as if they are comparable at all
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>the majority of this thread has already stopped playing gacha games or only sticks to one joseimuke that they already discuss normally
>no one here but the hoyoshill gives a shit about omnislop "changing" and already knows that shit is a lost cause
>theres been several posts hyping various upcoming joseimukes that sisters are excited for and plan to support
>muh real games
Tourists and their reading abilities get worse each visit
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>>2048907
Do YOU know how to read, retard? You stupid bitches always complain about how (omnishit game) isn't pandering to you enough (Like NTE) or how the corpo moids are ruining games every fucking thread non stop and that's not going to change anything. A game literally just released >>2047806 and not a single one of you is talking about it, instead it's just "wahhh I hate hoyoshit so much sisters hold me wahhh" for the 100th time. The thread was doing just fine until the AIslopper started saying that they don't mind AI slop as long as it has males. So do you want an actual decent game, or do you only want to have males, even if they're made out of slop?
Also
>sisters
Not a single person refers to themselves as sisters unironically unless you're larping, fuck off
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>>2048903
Those are the only anime JRPGs I can think of from the past decade(s) that have a sizeable female playerbase because realistically there really isn't anything else. Aterlier used to be yume friendly before it got invaded by coomer men and shit like Rune Factory is omnipandering too.
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>>2048926
How does my post imply I'm an omnislopper at all? My post is
>all you do is bitch about how you hate gacha games and they're not pandering to you enough
>say that if you want to be pandered to then play a dedicated game that actually panders to you
>somehow this means I hate gacha
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>why aren't you talking about the newly released game that is chinese exclusive, requires a chinese id, or makes you send a photo of your passport/id to play, and has in no way indicated that it's releasing to global?!
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>>2048878
>Just get a decent writer. And ideally fun gameplay.
nta but if they can't be bothered to hire an artist what makes you think they'd care enough to hire a writer and not just throw that to the slop machine too.
>>2048920
>A game literally just released >>2047806 and not a single one of you is talking about it
If you read any of the responses to that post you'd see that it's currently a CN-only game and requires handing over a phonenumber (and id) to play. There's no global release yet.
>Those are the only anime JRPGs I can think of from the past decade(s) that have a sizeable female playerbase because realistically there really isn't anything else.
>>>>>>because realistically there really isn't anything else.
idk if I need to add anything because I think you answered it yourself
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>>2048934
I play nu:c, so what's your cope now? Are you going to keep throwing boogeyman names because you lack skills to form an argument without strawmans?
>>2048943
>There's no global release yet.
I don't recall this thread being called "localized, english only joseimuke thread" given that anons used to post about jp only games before or chinese ones like Tale of Food
>idk if I need to add anything because I think you answered it yourself
But then why specifically would you want to get your pandering out of a genre that hates you, and then complain about how much you hate that genre? How you hate the merch, you hate the corporate moids behind them, the gameplay, the handmaidens defending lack of men and everything about it?
People already saw how there are LADS clones being made and simply making LADS clones isn't going to change the industry. In fact, those very "corpo moids" are the ones wanting your money by throwing a half assed product that you'll consume out of desperation because there's a guy in it, so even if you praise LADS as God's given gift to female players, it's still a soulless product with no love behind it. It's made to specifically get you to spend, which is what ALL gacha want out of you.
"I want a 3d game with males" but why would you want it to be a gacha, knowing how well the great majority of even omnislop 3d games suck?
Again, it's like none of you know what do you want at all.
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>>2048961
>I don't recall this thread being called "localized, english only joseimuke thread"
People just want global for accessibility reasons. A lot of games are a pain to play overseas and aren't as simple as getting the game off apkpure or qooapp.
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>>2048943
>nta but if they can't be bothered to hire an artist what makes you think they'd care enough to hire a writer and not just throw that to the slop machine too.
Because they don't cost as much as art, plus more or less anyone can write. Additionally the one time I tried reading an AI fic it just didn't make sense.
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>>2048961
>I don't recall this thread being called "localized, english only joseimuke thread"
Did you miss the "need to have a phonenumber (and id)". I'm fine with non-en games I can get an apk of (like twst back in the day and yumekuro (rip)), but I draw the line at giving them a pic of my passport.
>But then why specifically would you want to get your pandering out of a genre that hates you...
I was referring to rpgs and the limited number of options of non-vn otomes/bls. I play "real games" as you put it, but the gachas help fill in the void (or something to play when I'm not home)
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>>2048903
Fire Emblem and Persona barely even pander and the dev times between the games are so long. Persona hates anyone who isn't a straight male and the new Fire Emblem game doesn't seem like it has any cute guys.
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>>2048920
God forbid people want to play new games and old slop or shovelware "games". You want people to be happy playing nothing which is why men are the only ones who always get a ton of new content made for them.
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>>2049048
Not to mention most jrpgs are pretty much dead because of gacha. A lot of the funding that would have gone to visual novels are now funneled into gacha, even JP creators have talked about this. The development times between jrpgs take so long that there's an entire new generation that doesn't give a fuck about old IPs because it's been years since there was anything new. If you get a crappy installment of the last Final Fantasy or Fire Emblem you need to wait another decade for something else. No shit people stop caring.
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>You want people to be happy playing nothing which is why men are the only ones who always get a ton of new content made for them.
omnislurpers have zero standards when it comes to stuffing their faces full of moid shit. at this point the dopamine addiction no longer comes from the game or the gacha but rather groveling for scraps and that 1 single male character per year. SAD!
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>>2048961
I know what you mean anon because GOOD FUCKING LORD no one cares about omni shit or reddit or whatever the fuck goes on across the pond
But I personally have kept an eye on mobileshit because there's not exactly a lot of cute boy or yume content in real games.
I have played dozens of otome VNs, but it was all a quest to find out what the good entries in the genre were because most of them are mediocre or just bad, and popular opinion wasn't very trustworthy. Otomate hate. VN is an okay format but it gets boring since all you do is read, there is no gameplay. Gacha technically has a little in comparison.
Of course I've looked at real games that suit my needs as well. Even something unconventional like daughteru raising stat raisers like Volcano Princess or Magical Princess since you primarily play in the POV of the daughter and can date the boys. I even took SAO Fatal Bullet since you can go on dates with your customizable bot and the villain has a yandere flavor if you're a girl, and I really enjoyed the gameplay besides.
There's simply not many choices. FE's "romance" is like 20 minutes of content total in a 20-30 hour game or so, especially with the fact that the new game brought back that fuck ass UtaPri artstyle that I hate and the only remotely okay boy they showed was just fucking Alucard from SotN. Persona had a FeMC route once (Maya need not apply), and then they went "ooo so haard" and didn't do it again even when trying to make a definitive version of Persona 3. If the leaks are real, there isn't one in 6 either. Best that's possible is hoping the 5R FeMC mod gets finished eventually since that at least does have Yusuke and Ryuji romances implemented, though I've been waiting on Mishima myself.
I guess I always have Rune Factory. 4 is a kamige even besides the good boys.
Point being I wouldn't be here if I had better options nigga. It's a last resort and I would like it to not fail me.
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>>2049770
Agreed, it's too covered up. I also think this outfit would have benefited from a back pose. Wife and matador outfits are known for their assets, show them off. I think the last time we had one was with yukata wife?
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>>2039492
Def appealling to the fujos without being thrown into a CCP gulag. Prolly helps that both characters have reincarnated and aren't human, in Blade's case not human anymore.
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