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Come here for talk about all things Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.

Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/59086730/ >>59086730

Romhacks Overview/Reviews: https://rentry.org/pmdglph

PMD Fan Fiction Archive: https://rentry.org/pmdg-ffarchive

PMD Guides: https://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
Explorers of Sky Romhacking Guide: https://rentry.org/skytempleguide

Everything about the Clover Guild: https://cloverguild.com/
Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/deKkksDwx4
Mobile Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/FU2Na24WYR
Drawing Request: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublic

Questions:
>What is the worst looking official PMD sprite or portrait? Have any made you avoid using a Pokemon you normally like?
>Has stepping on a trap ever accidently helped you in a dungeon? If never, what trap has ruined your runs the most?
>Most preferred gimmick in PMD hacks? (puzzles, gameplay style, etc.)
>If the Kecleon merchants are so strong, why don't they just save the world themselves?

Recap of the previous thread:
>Cachopo-anon joins the guild with their first story, A Bull-Headed Start (https://rentry.org/CloverCachopo1)
>Vaporeanon and Glaceon-anon posted two stories (https://rentry.co/gs-above/) (https://rentry.co/gs-below/)
>Pancham-anon finished their first story (https://rentry.org/6pwfwuez)
>A Real Human published their second story (https://rentry.org/realpmdstory2)
>A PMD romhack was made by an anon in the thread, PMD Desert Bus (https://drive.google.com/file/d/12YVU2x5VH9AywUT6Fn2oyMonIzwDSxrm/view)
>An anon posted 2 new stories, Delta Dawn 1 & 2 (https://rentry.org/cg-deltadawn) (https://rentry.org/cg-deltadawn2)
>New story by Growlithe-anon, Darkest Memoir (https://rentry.org/DarkestMemoir)
>Discussion on the many stories published, art, and team choices
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>>59164484
>What is the worst looking official PMD sprite or portrait? Have any made you avoid using a Pokemon you normally like?
Marshtomp's sprites are so short that they make me want to delay evolution in rescue team until I can jump straight to Swampert.

>Has stepping on a trap ever accidently helped you in a dungeon? If never, what trap has ruined your runs the most?
Pitfall traps are just stairs if you have the right atitude (and you have trap seer or google specs).

>Most preferred gimmick in PMD hacks? (puzzles, gameplay style, etc.)
I enjoy needing to work alongside your teamates to take down the enemies and also having access to secondary terrain traversal. The dungeons are the only gameplay aspect I really care about, so any sort of gimmicky puzzle tends to detract from the experience for me.

>If the Kecleon merchants are so strong, why don't they just save the world themselves?
Because then there wouldn't be heroes to sell wares to. Think of the business!
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>>59164484
>>What is the worst looking official PMD sprite or portrait? Have any made you avoid using a Pokemon you normally like? not so much avoid but i don't much like glameow's for some reason. feels squished
>>Has stepping on a trap ever accidently helped you in a dungeon? If never, what trap has ruined your runs the most?
pokemon traps sometimes help with recruiting. i don't actively seek them out so i guess it's an accident when they happen
>>Most preferred gimmick in PMD hacks? (puzzles, gameplay style, etc.)
i don't play many hacks so i can't answer this question
>>If the Kecleon merchants are so strong, why don't they just save the world themselves?
the pursuit of money doesn't usually lead to charity
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>>59164484
>Has stepping on a trap ever accidently helped you in a dungeon? If never, what trap has ruined your runs the most?
I just did Meteor Cave in Rescue Team DX and I purposely detonated an explosive trap to get a few of the fake Deoxys out of my way without getting cucked by Pressure. The apple traps and the grudge traps are evil
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>he evolves his starting duo
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>>59165967
I like doing it as the final thing in a playthrough as a way to cement how long the two spent together and how far they have come.
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All pokemon aspire to evolve into their strongest form.
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My partner and I aspire to stay in our cutest and cuddliest forms for as long as possible. Evolving into big ugly oafs would do our relationship no good.
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The big brain move is to evolve only one of them.
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>>59166079
>entire relationship is based off looks
ngmi
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>>59166432
I used to do this before I swapped my ideal duo over to a different pairing.
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>>59166505
Of course it isn't silly, his personality is obviously an exact match for mine and we love many of the same things (like our favorite spinda orders, favorite spots on the beach, favorite cuddling positions...). Perhaps if we were more adventurous, stronger forms would help with that (and help us protect each other), but we are content to live a peaceful life.
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>starter duo starts fully evolved
>no more concerns about losing their soul on evolution
>hilarity ensues as you funny scenes like a feraligatr shitting its pants against a drowzee
the best solution?
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Here's some Clover Guild lost media! A short story I wrote for Vulpix-anon based on the art he made (on the left!) when I wanted to practice combat before writing Black & White. Pretty quick and it's a bit of my older writing style but I hope the Guild will enjoy it nonetheless!

>https://rentry.org/rsczt5k9
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>>59166735
>Open the story
>"Two Pokèmon, a Vulpix and a Shinx"
>Close the story
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>>59167224
>Anon who can't read a 4chan post tries to read a fanfiction
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>Open story
>"Two pokemon, a Binacle and a Morelull"
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>>59167297
Some mons were just born to be NPCs man
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>>59167297
>open story
>"Two pokemon, a Piguson and Vandash"
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>Open the story
>"Two Pokemon, both boys, kiss"
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>open story
>shit my pants
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>>59167334
V would love mystery dungeon. He'd play it with griffon and shadow as his starters.
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If I had any major wish for a new pmd game I would want more post game dungeons with little self contained adventures like Sky Peak and Aegis Cave. Saving the world is cool and all, but I love a good treasure hunt
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>>59168755
This would be awesome, i can't help but think of all the cute stories we could have of treasure hunting, exploring unknown places or even visiting a legendary pokemon just to see if they are real.
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>>59168755
Dear god make it like Rescue team and not like Sky Peak and Aegis Cave.
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>>59168881
>rescue team post game
>hello, please go to this dungeon because reason
>get to boss room
>im mad at you for some reason
>joins your team for some reason
Pokedex filler dungeons
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>>59168893
>Sky Peak
>You go trough 10 beach caves as your tour guide keeps bumping into randies while you just stand there
>NEW CONTENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>Aegis Cave
Do I need to say anything?
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>>59168912
If you didn’t enjoy your mandated NPC interactions you have no soul. Yes, I want to see Heracross make a friend. Yes, I want to see Sneasel learn to accept help from others. Yes, I want to re-establish base camps in untamed territory. If you want to participate in a dungeon with no interruptions that’s fine. As for Aegis Cave, the random drops for the stones sucked but it was an ancient ruin with Regis in it and you are racing a world renowned treasure hunting team. It is cool
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>>59168928
Aegis Cave being conceptually cool doesn’t justify the agony it puts players through
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>>59170061
soul BLAST
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>>59170152
DX will never be soul, cope zoomer
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can a rtdx boy and an eos girl really be together...
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>>59166735
This was neat. It's nice to see Nick and Amelia as the stars of a story, they don't seem to have much despite being Clover OGs
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>>59171239
>can a [...] boy and an [...] girl really be together?
no. boys belong with boys and girls with girls.
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>>59171280
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>>59171280
this, i play sky playing vulpix with my loving eevee partner. both male, of course
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>>59171426
>Both female exclusive options.
>Bothe female when chosen as a partner.
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>>59171517
As far a I know, those game never used pronouns and always used the male variant of the tail markings for Eevee.
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>>59171539
>>59171539
The Eevee gender diferent was added in Let's Go Eevee.
Explorers shows the gender of your pokemon
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>>59171517
while this is technically and objectively true, they were MALE in my mind
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>>59168755
Personally I'd want more special episodes, I think PMD's writing is at its best in those since they can all be more unique since they don't focus on the blank slate protag, and they allow for more carefully structured balancing even if Chunsoft completely fucked up there with Team Charm's episode. Honestly I wouldn't mind a Dragon Quest 4 or a Livealive-style anthology game where you swap casts every chapter, though it'd probably never happen since the self-insert hero is too integral to the series at this point.
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>>59171618
kill yourself, homo
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>>59171809
>team charm
I don't know what they were thinking having most of their movesets pick randomly from the levelup table. You can very realistically get a Lopunny with Baton Pass/Pound/Splash/Foresight. The fuck are you gonna do with this moveset?
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>>59172385
The Team Charm episode just feels the most lazy in general, by far the most forgettable one for me. I also think their theme is one of the worst songs in the game, which stands out since some of the other special episode songs are some of my favorites.
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>>59167224
>>59167297
>>59167334

Fine, I give up. (You) all win.
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>>59173337
Yep I'm so mindbroken I didn't even link the shitpost.
>https://rentry.co/TwoPokemon
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>>59173346
>bros played gay chicken so hard they fucking died
its so peak
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>>59173337
Honestly, I rather liked Finnigan. Good job at making a (relatively) sympathetic character in a relatively short word count.
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>>59168467
The most terrifying words in the pokemon language are: I'm an absol and I'm here to help.
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>>59173656
>does nothing in RT
>leaves
what was the point of Absol?
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>>59174198
Hype moments and aura
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>>59174198
Maybe so that in the 4 second cutscene where you throw hands with Team ACT, your team can go 1 to 1 against the other.
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>>59174198
Maybe so that in the 4 second cutscene where you throw hands with Team ACT, your team can go 1 to 1 against the other.
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>>59173337
Justice for Finnegan
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>>59173346
What's the worst pokemon to be stuck as? The klink line? Shedinja?
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>>59174612
Luvdisc
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>>59173337
Let Finnegan live
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>>59174626
Feebas
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>>59175530
At least you have the chance of evolving as a feebas
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>>59174612
Slugma

>Literal slug with no limbs, has to slowly crawl everywhere
>A crawling fire hazard, probably banned from getting close to many places
>Can't sleep and has to keep moving 24/7 or else body cools down and falls apart
>Evolution doesn't solve any of this, just adds a brittle shell
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>>59175675
_______________slugma balls
makes all the downsides worth it desu
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>>59175675
>wandering vagabond slugma who's grateful for anybody to travel with and talk to at his pace and complain to about his horrible existence
Kind of a vibe
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>>59174612
A smallmon quadruped with a huge dick.
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What's the best game to start with? Slight preference towards better graphics, and medium preference towards not being overly punishing for someone not great at roguelikes.
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>>59175740
>Welcome to Slugma in the Morning, good Slugma to you. Today, part 8 of our series on the terrible pain I feel every day.
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>>59175877
Explorers is widely considered the best game in the series. I started with Red Rescue Team on GBA and became obsessed. Explorers reinforced it. If you are used to playing modern pokemon then you could probably start with Rescue Team DX.
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>>59175877
Games really aren't all that hard, sometimes you will get screwed by rng but it isnt as malicious as other rougelikes. Game with the best graphics is Rescue Team DX, which is an updated version of the first game. Explorers of Sky is considered the best in series, its pixel graphics but is still nice to look at. Super is fun but has some questionable story descisions. Gates to Infinity is the black sheep of the series.
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>>59175675
How many fire types are not allowed to enter Capim?
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>>59175675
If you have an external heat source to keep you warm you should be able to sleep though. That's probably why it's constantly searching for warm places
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>>59176690
Capim is most likely pretty humid, so fires wouldn't start that quickly. Probably.

>>59175877
PMD is literally baby's first traditional roguelike, you'll be fine. Just don't start with Super since that is probably the hardest one and you'll miss all of its fanservice references anyway.
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>>59177470
>>59176690
Correct!
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