They built the tiger from the ground up to be a VGC staple and forced him in smash and he still polled worse than 2 forms of the owl and couldn't even get into unite

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>>59172633
>forced him in Smash
Sakurai literally said it would have been Decidueye if not for him being a fan of pro wrestling as seen previously in Kirby Super Star

>polling
Are polls battle results

>doesnt even get the mickey mouse title of "its good for the campaign!" because alola has a fuckload of grass/ghost hate and the other two starters are better
The owl just can't win

>>59172646
What was even the deal with its stats? Primarina and Incineroar have tailored stats whereas the bird would make some of Hoenn’s greatest SFMA hits green with envy

>>59172657
I don't know why the fuck an OWL that is an ARCHER is so fucking slow. Imagine if Cinderace had 60 base speed

>>59172633
you should go for pokken instead, the owl has infamously been the laughing stock of unite since its release
dweet dwoo...

>>59172717
Correction, owl has a dogshit playerbase, he pops off just fine if the user knows how to position, same as any huge DPS attacker like Cinder, Pult, etc.

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>>59172646
it was fine for PLA

>>59172799
It had the same issue as base Decidueye where there's a Pokemon with the same typing but a better statblock/movepool, Dhelmise and H-Liligant respectively

>>59172840
The owl is definitely shit but you have it miles longer than Dhelmise. Hisuian Lilligant is at least available around the same time as it though

>ban all the uglies from competitive
who do we have left

>>59173215
Literally no one

>>59173215
Incineroar.

>>59172646
at least owl is by far the best of the three in pocket
it's somehow still a relevant deck almost a year after its release while the other two were dead on arrival

>>59172552
That triple arrow signature moved looked really good. I'm surprised it didn't carry hisuian decidueye farther.

>>59173405
He’d be the first one to go

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>>59173215
Whimsicott!

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>>59172552
The regonal form is awesome.
I dont give a FUCK what compfags think of him.
Go to hell wolfey

>>59172741
>>59172717
Decidueye is top 3 pick right now in unite and has good win rate overall

>>59172633
This. Forced to be designed to be perfect for vgc but still cant win popularity over a 'shitmon'

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>>59173963
The regional form is dogshit.
I dont give a FUCK what campaignshitters think of him.
Still, go to hell wolfey

>>59172665
Archers have to aim, of course they're slow. Their advantage is attacking from a distance like snipers, not mobility, but of course distance means jack shit in pokemon when close combat and arrows are fired from the same distance.

>>59172643
Sakurai did say it was between 'Eye and 'Roar. But he also said he waited specifically to see public reaction too. As much as he would have loved to add 'Roar from the start and fuck even the OPTION of picking 'Eye, he waited (he had to as he only adds popular shit to his fighter game from Pokémon). There was also the fact there was heavy blowback from greninjashilling in Gen 6, to the point it doesn't have nearly the depth of oldfag support something like Charizard or Lucario have and as a result and for a Smash fighter, that's beyond he pale. So he waited to make sure he wasn't putting another flavour of the month fighter in.

> 252 Atk Rowlet Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Decidueye-Hisui: 420-496 (132.4 - 156.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
lmao

> 252 Atk Rowlet Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Decidueye-Hisui: 420-496 (132.4 - 156.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
lmao

> 252 Atk Rowlet Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Decidueye-Hisui: 420-496 (132.4 - 156.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
lmao

>>59175052
@grok is this real?

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>>59172552
Mixed attackers were a mistake there's genuinely no worse stat spread

>>59175271
What are some successful mixed attackers? The only one I can think of thats relevant is Iron Valiant but I'm struggling to think of any before that, was mixed Infernape ever a thing?

>>59175271
this is slander against hisui and hoenn

>>59175280
Any mixed attacker above 540 BST is generally at least usable. The problem is that’s fairly rare. Also helps if they’re fast

>>59175280
Dragapult

>>59175280
It's a case of cheating the stats but Aegislash

>>59175280
High power moves/gimmicks can get you pretty far. Like Special Swellow with Boomburst. Or Sheer Force Nidoking. I think the best example is probably the Pseudos since they tend to get moves, or Tapu Koko since it can't use its highest Attack stat as much as it'd like.

>>59172643
Ayo what's kirby doing to that waddle dee

I like how all of us collectively still refer to it as "the owl".

>>59175280
Mega salamence with her 700 base stats total

>>59175702
>her

>>59175713
Yes.

>>59175565
Decidueye is kind of a mouthful and annoying to spell, the owl just fits because I think there's only one other owl line out there anyways. Incin is also abbreviated a lot as well.

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>>59175141
Why should an owl be able to learn Brave Bird?
Owls are not birds.

>>59175284
there's a difference between slander and straight up ignorance
he's the latter