>>59177062
>B...but he is quite hard if you picked Chikorita!!!

>durable cocoons slowly whittle down player’s pokemon before based defense lowering, crit raising Scyther swoops in with 70 BP STAB move to finish the job.
>all female btw
Yep it’s based.

>>59177073

pidgey sweeps the entire team with gust

>>59177076
Imagine you werent using Pidgey though

>>59177073
/thread

>>59177073
If the cocoons ever get a chance to “attack” more than once you’re a bad player.

pokemon is piss easy, more at 10

>>59177062
A Ninja-like speedster using U-Turn and two cocoonmons as decoys.

Holy fucking soul!

>>59177133
Yep, anotha GOATo classic

>>59177062
Did Johto not have any new Bugs?
Could've sworn Heracross was from Gen 2.
>>59177073
>>all female btw
You're a sick, sick man.

>>59177062
>gym has a spider aesthetic
>doesn't use the spider-mon on his team

>>59177164
Spinarak and Ledeyba would've fit the same purpose and were Gen 2 pokemon

>>59177164
>Did Johto not have any new Bugs?
Ledyba, Ledian
Spinarak, Ariados
Yanma
Pineco, Forretress
Scizor
Shuckle
Heracross

>>59177062
The Cocoons are there to buy Scyther free U Turns, and maybe score some chip damage and a poison if you really suck. Frankly speaking, a U Turn spamming Scyther is more than powerful enough to sweep an entire team of base stagers.

>>59177062
Bugsy walked so Whitney could rollout

oh no I spent one PP of my 30 PP early game moves on metapod aiiiieeeeeee johto is so haaaaard

>>59177062
Probably an upgrade from using Ledishit

>>59177062
Too many kids picked Charmander, then got their ass kicked by Brock.

>>59177307
Where is the justice for Chicorita kids who only had Chuck's Poliwrath to look forward to in a game that hates grass types?

>>59177080
Geodude(female) sweeps the whole team, like she did with Fravdner, and like she will with Shitney

>>59177164
Johto had the best bugs out of any gen pre-BW

>>59177062
johto is so dogshit, i dropped my last hg playthrough at the 5th gym out of boredom

>>59177363
they're better than BW's.
>>59177369
next time don't actively avoid the game's wealth of side content.

the first gym is actually far more difficult because his Pidgeotto with roost can outheal the damage output of a lot of pokemon at that stage

>>59177062
And Lt. Surge is easier than Misty, even without cheesing him with a ground type, which goes to show how dogshit the gym leader progression is in Kanto. Your point?

>>59177381
what side content, shitty touchscreen minigames? that can't save how unfortunately dogshit the rest of the game is

>>59177133
>Muh soul

>>59177483
the rest of the game is also phenomenal though? i think you might just have shit taste man

>>59177385
You have a lot of counter play for that, even in structured challenge runs you will always have something that gets tail whip/leer. You have access to supersonic/hypnosis and can literally just tail whip it 3 times before quick attacking to death.

>>59177065
If he actually clicks u-turn, anyway. I steamrolled him with Bayleef because he literally refused to click anything except leer and focus energy.

Pokemon enemy AI is so fucking bad, man. Retards also like to complain about shit like Cynthia, but then her Milotic is fodder who spams water moves into water absorb/dry skin users and mirror coat into physical attackers.

>>59177694
yeah this is kind of a universal issue with pokemon games
xy tried to combat it a bit by limiting movesets on a lot of the bosses but it didn't really work

>>59177385
Falkner’s Pidgeotto is unironically easiest if you pick Chkorita
>poison powder
>spam tackle/razor leaf
>click synthesis if low hp
You’re putting him on a timer, out heal him, and despite being “super effective” gust does barely any damage to you.

>>59177707
This is actually the case for a lot of gyms. Chikorita performs a hell of a lot better than people give it credit for. I'd go as far as to say it's the strongest starter for the HGSS campaign.

>>59177717
Really the only hurdles Chikorita actually faces in Johto’s gyms are Bugsy (unless the AI does >>59177694), and Morty. It’s definitely underrated and poison powder/reflect is honestly evil.

>>59177734
It's also by far the strongest starter option for Whitney, which is the one gym particularly known to give kids trouble.

>>59177062

this just tells me that game freak really does hate bug type. imagine how cool a scyther/beedrill/butterfree team would have been. She would have actually have looked like a "bug master"

>>59177755
>she
Bugsy is a boy.
An adorable trap shota cocksleeve, but a boy nonetheless.

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>meanwhile in the game with apparently good gym leader design

>>59177779
>b-b-but the gym leaders do a thing at the end of the game!!

>>59177062
Is this an edit? Scyther has Fury Cutter

>>59177807
>he didn't play hgss

>>59177381
>They're better than BW's
Lol
Lmao
Volcarona alone clears every johto bug
Also a better spider, and based millipede and levanny etc.

>>59177654
>the dex is abysmal shit
>the game's performance is slow as fuck
>the routes are all underleveled kanto shitmons
>tms are locked through monotonous minigame girding
>evolution items are locked through monotonous minigame grinding
not really, the johto games are dogshit

>>59177073
>>59177133
>>59177222
it doesn’t have u-turn in gsc

>>59178010
It had Fury Clitter. And only 3 moves.
Although, Metapod and Kakuna also had 3 moves each.

>>59177062
Bugsy boipussi

>>59178110
Get off 4chan, Wicke

>>59177968
>he didn't explore off the beaten path
>yeah sure this one is fair
>he didn't explore off the beaten path
>he hates kino minigames
>he hates kino minigames
all of these complaints (except the performance one) just come from refusal to engage with the game. they're the highest rated mainlines for a reason

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This guy is barely above a normal trainer

>>59177164
>jotho gym leader
>actually using jotho mons
lol

>>59178123
Don’t bother with him anon. He’s a nu kids who started with bw
He doesn’t know what "additional content" is

>>59177076
As someone who has actually played the game a few times
No.
Pidgeotto gets assraped by Scyther
Pidgeotto is ass, Gust is bad, resisted U-Turn fucks you bad. And that's assuming it doesn't get poisoned by Kakuna, because that isn't a oneshot.

>>59177318
they died of embarrassment

>>59178183
half of them do, but I wouldn't expect you to know that considering you don't even know how to spell "johto"
>>59178200
meganiumchads won im afraid

>>59177742
>Whitney
Starters all job here. Just send out Geodude, or Heracross if it's HGSS.

>>59178214
>worst starter for over 2 decades
you absolutely lost

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>>59178286
>best starter for over 2 decades and now people are finally realizing it
Cry me a river.

>>59178286
> worst starter for over 2 decades
nope, that’s still treeko. Even back in orass it was used less than meganium. its sammurot if it was a grass type. only way they could fix it is by giving it a regional forms that swap its offensive stats

>>59178286
Worst starter for 28 years and running

>>59178299
It's decent in gen 3, at least it can kill shit without wasting time setting up

>>59178286
Worst starter of all time is easily Snivy if we're talking about in-game

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>the 8th gym leader, the final test before you can take on the elite four
>team: luvdisc, whiscash, sealeo, seaking, milotic
diversity hire gym leader

>>59178320
>It's decent in gen 3
How to spot someone that never actually played Gen 3 101

>>59178320
Nigga have you actually played RSE? Or are you saying Sceptile kills shit because it's the grass starter and you heard Hoenn is le water region?
Sceptile is the worst of the three and it's not even close. It fucking sucks dude. Grovyle is useless until you get leaf blade, and then that remains Sceptile's best move for the rest of the game. A 70 base power grass move. lmao. And what water types do you face? Mostly Tentacool and Wingull, who are neutral to grass, not weak to it. Team Aqua has Carvanha but that would die to a single hit from any mon.

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>>59178338
>actually has a team of 5
>meanwhile this pedobait only has 3 mons
>one isn’t even fully evolved
>doesn’t even use the pseudo of her gen
this is what a real diversity hire look like

>>59177779
Every single game has this problem except USUM, and that's solely for the durations of Totem Araquanid and Ultra Necrozma. It's called "not falling for the teambuilding meme and focusing exclusively on your starter".

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>>59177062
>>59178171

this is just pre-game the real challenge is stadium

>>59177779
Moxie is based

>>59177779
>>59178378
oh hi Kojo. defending jewtho now I see.

>>59178376
her champion team was pretty cool at least
>>59178378
yeah the inherent issue with pokemon games is that it's really easy to optimize the fun out of them by dumping all your exp into a single pokemon. if you can learn to resist that urge though it's a lot more fun.
it's like that bell curve meme except there's an extra step to it
>stage 1: im just gonna use my starter because leveling up other stuff takes time
>stage 2: i have to build a team for the sake of strategy
>stage 3: the best strategy is to just use your starter because you'll outlevel everything
>stage 4: using a full team is a hell of a lot more fun than just using your starter
i understand the whole mentality of "I don't wanna play like a retard, i wanna play optimally" but the most retarded thing you can do is ruin the experience for yourself by taking the boring route
pokemon games are pretty piss easy regardless, having a full team is just more fun

>>59177779
Unova started the trend of Gym Leaders having 3 Pokémon and 4 on the League that continues to XY

>>59178391
>johturd so dogshit that you have to buy a whole separate console and game just to have postgame

>>59178421
? game by default literally has the most postgame in the series, especially in hgss

>>59177062
lead - Pineco (L15)
-Tackle
-Protect
-Selfdestruct
-Take Down
*gravitates towards using Selfdestruct
second - Spinarak (L15)
-Poison Sting
-String Shot
-Scary Face
-Constrict
last - Scyther (L17)
Unchanged

Fury Cutter -> U-Turn in GS -> HGSS,
still leads it in HGSS and prioritizes U-Turn on the first turn

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>>59177779

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>>59177062

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>>59178171

>>59178472
you post this image a lot but i never really see the issue with it. what exactly is wrong with any of these teams?

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>>59177062
>>59177779
>>59178171
>>59178338
>>59178376
>>59178391
>>59178469
>>59178472
>>59178474
every single one of these is mogged and raped by not being a retard btw

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>>59178291
tell 'em girly

>>59178476
>i never really see the issue with it
maybe because you're a toddy
chuck has 2 mons and Archer has 3 mons with 2 preevos and mismatched moves to base stats, for example

>>59178342
>>59178370
>Twitter tranny posting
>muh water flying water poison
Doesn't matter, it still outspeeds and one shots trainer mons. Meanwhile Megashit is taking 3 turns setting up and missing its powder moves every battle and probably dead by that point anyway.

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>>59178478
If these "girlies" appreciate the best starter as much as I do, then they're alright in my book.

>>59177062
she was taking it easy on you since you were so low level level

>>59178425
both Johto and Johto's Kanto are empty

>>59178484
>the pokemon game is easy
the sky is blue. still don't see the issue.

>>59178477
oh hi Kojo

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>>59178496
the issue is Johto challenge is bottom of the barrel and poorly designed

it fails to meet already low standards

>>59178492
In GSC sure, but I struggle to name a Pokemon game with more side content than HGSS, on account of there not being one. HGSS Johto and Kanto are filled to the brim with things to do.
>>59178504
>it's different and that means it's le bad!
keep em coming

>>59178504
>I chose not to include gen VIII and IX because of the more 'open' aspects in some areas that kinda mess with more traditional level curves
>but also it's le bad when johto does the exact same thing by letting you choose the order for gyms 5-7 and most of the kanto gyms
fuck directly off KEEEEK

>>59178485
>it still outspeeds
Yeah.
>and one shots trainer mons
Lmao no it doesn't. Not unless you're overleveled and in that case yeah no fucking shit, any mon can do that. Sceptile is a shitmon and I say that as someone who always picks Treecko. Sceptile is cool, but it fucking sucks.

>>59178485
>he actually didn't play the game
the larping is strong in this one.

>>59178485
johtosharties are mindbroken and deflecting to poor sceptile when megashart is a grass type in the flying poison grass rattata region lol

>>59178572
if you've actually used meganium in hgss you'll know it performs pretty damn well

>>59178527
keep saying it chikorikek

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>yet another thread devolved into seething about meganium's superiority
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.

>>59178585
I'm not even defending Chikorita, it's shit too, the only starter that is worse is Snivy. Just don't delude yourself into thinking Sceptile is good lmao.

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>johto league gyms begin with a pidgey
>kanto postgame gyms end with a pidgeot, thus bringing the journey full circle
Dare I say KINO?

>>59178572
Sceptile is fine but Meganignog doesn't do anything. It sets up a screen or two and statused the opponent, now what? It still takes several more turns for you to do anything.

>>59178613
>not using a swords dance set
thats rather cringe innit bruv

>retards are still pretending snivy is bad

>>59178521
Almost as if that kind of game design fucks up a JRPG's structure.

>>59178620
>setting up tranny strat
LMAO fuck off faggot

>>59178623
>wahh wahhh i hate having freedom
lmao ok

>>59178625
>it's a tranny strat because it shatters my narrative
KEEEEEEEK

Scyther is already borderline too good for that early in the game. It doesn't help they were fucking around with designing Pokemon until the last possible minute, so they probably didn't know Ledian and Ariados were dogshit enough they could have put them on the team just fine. Johto didn't need a second Whitney filtering kids, and Heracross would have probably done that (say goodbye to your new rock type from Union Cave).

>>59178613
>Sceptile is fine
if you do a Kojo and overlevel it, maybe.

>>59178622
I picked Snivy because its line is the coolest and it was fucking terrible
an insult to game design

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>>59178620
Anything can one shot shit with set up spam, it's cringe and doesn't count

>>59178667
>he needs x items for his starter
kek

>>59178667
it's a new strategy for them the nuzlockers taught them what they did 2 years ago

>>59178667
with x items it takes two turns to do what swords dance can do in one

>>59178692
You wouldn't need 2 if your starter wasn't shit

>>59178698
shityle needs 2 lol

>>59178629
If it makes the gameplay bad, yes.
Good gameplay needs structure.
And sometimes (especially in a JRPG) that requires some linearity.
How underage are you to not understand that?

>>59178698
too bad you’re using treeko then

>>59178704
>If it makes the gameplay bad, yes.
Good thing it doesn't.

>>59178620
Scep gets Swords Dance in Emerald doebeit

>>59178724
>no physical moves

>>59178732
>eq, return, brick break/focus punch
>crunch, thunderpunch and dragon claw for more special coverage
thought u played the game nigga

>>59178740
does sceptile really get earthquake?

>>59178746
are you brown and didn't play the game?

>>59178747
brother i was asking a genuine question, it's been fucking ages since i last used sceptile
meganium is still better on account of the fact that body slam paralyzes, you also have options like screens, poisonpowder (valuable in a game without the toxic tm), and leech seed if you breed (which the johto games do strongly encourage)
meganium slots very nicely into just about any team in johto. i personally like to run swords dance

>>59178763
>Body Slam can't kill shit
>screens and Toxic don't kill shit
>Leech Seed doesn't kill shit
Brother who cares. 7 year olds at the time knew all that crap was pointless back then when the enemy doesn't get one shot.

>>59178771
>sceptile can't kill shit

>>59178772
>megatranny kills literally nothing

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>>59178774
>shitile kills literally nothing

>>59178774
mega megatranny still kills literally nothing and looks retarded kek

>>59178779
>epic reply fail
but enough about mega sceptictank

>59178783
i don't reply to actual trannies sorry

>>59178802
>i don't have a counterargument nor a creative insult so I'm just gonna call you a tranny and call it a day.
Concession accepted. Yep, anotha meGODnium victory

>argument was "no u"
MegaSHARTies keep losing

>argument is "nuh uh"
God, we Meganiumchads are physically incapable of losing. Feels good.

>>59177062
>he doesn't know that gym leaders "learn" your teams moves as you use them and counter appropriately
ngmi

>megatrannies out-trannied scepchads
see what i mean kek

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Are you ready.
To meet.
The WORST starter Pokemon of all time?

dilate sceptroon

>>59178724
Not until the Battle Frontier lol

>>59178828
he went back on that statement in that very LP because it kept coming in clutch and demolishing fights that it should've had a disadvantage to on paper.
emile demonstrated pretty well that actually using chikorita disproves the whole "worst starter" meme whether he meant to or not

>>59178846
It's easy to say that when your expectations are that low.

>>59178846
Did it actually demolish fights, as in, oneshot everything like a good mon would do? Or are you being hyberbolic and actually mean that it slowly chipped the enemy down without dying, like a coping shitmon has to do?

>>59178871
Watch the LP.

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>>59178846
>pick the worst starter for the content
>grinds casually so expectations are even lower
>does something in one or two battles
>"wow! not so shitty after all!"
meanwhile feraligatr doesn't need a toilet on his head to sweep hgss with minimum battles

>>59178877
Neither does Meganium. Try it sometime.

>>59178876
I'm not watching hours of videos to check if Chikorita was actually useful for once. I've used it myself before and concluded that it sucks, like most grass types do. If you watched it could you just tell me which of the two it did? Does it go first and nuke opponents like a genuinely good mon can do, or does it have to resort to cope strats to accomplish anything, while wasting everyone's time?

>>59178217
>Starters all job here
No they don’t. Not even the anon you’re replying to, but Bayleef legitimately makes Whitney a joke. Reflect while Clefairy is out, poison powder (click it twice, pussy), and then just fucking sitting there kills the cow easily.

>>59178876
>>59178895
This is how twitter trannies argue btw

>>59178899
It wrecked house.

>>59178899
He's not telling you how because he doesn't know and gen 2 fags only care about shitposting to bump limit.

>>59178906
Hey retard. Read.
>>59178905

>>59178911
>how
Read. Faggot tranny.

>>59178828
It’s not even that bad for Johto. Comp sure, though the mega redeemed it and in GSC OU Smogon does rank it the highest of the Johto starters with a pretty clear lead. For ingame,
>Treecko
>Snivy
>Rowlet
Are all worse grass starters for their respective campaigns, but they tend to get a pass because their final forms look cool.

>>59178905
I can say Beautifly wrecked house in my Emerald run, doesn't mean it isn't bullshit

>>59178914
It fucking obliterated opposing teams. With raw strength. Funnily enough, one of the only gyms it struggled against was Whitney, because Emile tried a really quirky strategy with Natural Gift that didn't work out.

>>59178928
>still doesn't explain how specifically when its shit stats and moves say otherwise
>cites a time when it sucked
Lol. Lmao.

>>59178905
Okay but what did it actually do? I've had people try to convince me that a shitmon is good before, and it basically always boils down to "uh it slowly whittled down the opponent over like 20 turns, but it didn't die so it's good!" A good mon like, say, Kadabra, would almost always be going first and oneshotting everything, accomplishing the same result in a fraction of the time. That's what a good mon can do. So I'll ask again, did Chikorita outspeed and oneshot the enemy? And did it do so consistently?

>>59178936
>"uh it slowly whittled down the opponent over like 20 turns, but it didn't die so it's good!"
or "i used swords dance 3 times and an x speed and a couple potions and it sweeped the e4!!!"

>>59178932
Headbutt, mostly.
>>59178936
>did Chikorita outspeed and oneshot the enemy? And did it do so consistently?
Yes.

>>59178944
>Headbutt
On level 8 wild Pokemon when grinding? Fucking crazy ass shit.

>>59178943
One Swords Dance is enough.

>>59178948
One isn't enough. I tried.

>>59178944
>Yes
Alright then now I'm curious, because that's not at all what my experience is with using one. Aside from wild mons but who the fuck counts that? Got a link to the LP, maybe with some timestamps to showcase Chikorita doing well?

>>59178947
Nope. On actual trainers. Go watch the LP. It's pretty entertaining.
Also only retards grind on wild mons instead of trainer rematches.

>>59178936
>did Chikorita outspeed and oneshot the enemy? And did it do so consistently?
As someone who actually used it, yeah. It really can do both ungabunga and stallshit, unlike the other two starters which fold to anything that can actually take a hit like Miltank or Kingdra. By the end of Kanto I was running
>SD
>EQ
>Giga Drain
>Body Slam
And steamrolling.

>>59178952
On Chuggaaconroy's channel. Genuinely just watch it from the start, it's a good series.

>>59178954
>still citing nothing
Thanks for wasting everyone's time as usual, carry on.

>>59178954
surely you'd remember those hype megatranny moments if it was so entertaining and link the episodes and timestamps :)

>>59178918
>GSC OU ranking is Meganium > Typhlosion >>> Feraligatr
>Champions ranking is Meganium > Typhlosion >>> Feraligatr
It has really come full circle huh.

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>>59177062
Gym leaders are fighting on roughly equal grounds as their opponent
In the Origins Anime Brock had a full team of 6 pokemon but only fought with two because red had no badges yet
If you want to really challange them you have to fight them for realy you can challange them in the post game where they have a full team of 6

>>59178957
yep, i remember when my oddish swept flannery and took zero damage. best pokemon ever.

>>59178983
this but unironically.

>>59178983
Average Johto campaignshitter

>>59179015
>implying oddish isn't the best pokemon ever
someone's mad they got ababored

>>59179024
>Dead "memes"
All Johtofags should be banned

>>59179028
>t. golurk

>>59179028
based.

>>59178954
still waiting for those moments bro

>>59178171
Fight Pryce immediately after Morty if you want a surprisingly tough fight.

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>>59179034

>>59179041
cringe.

>>59179041
Cry more faggot

>>59179048
>doesn't deny samefagging
kek

>>59178959
I ain't watching all of that but I skimmed through the Johto gym leader fights
>Falkner
Killed a Pidgey and had to use Geodude for Pidgeotto
>Bugsy
Used poison powder then switched to Geodude who swept
>Whitney
Killed Clefairy, died to Miltank, then had to fall back on Geodude once again
>Morty
Actually a sweep, but he had to use swords dance twice and was overleveled
>Pryce
Overleveled sweep, as expected because he is weak to grass
>Chuck
Overleveled sweep
>Jasmine
Didn't even use Meganium
>Claire
Set a screen and didn't actually do any damage with Meganium
Judging by this I'd conclude that this is more of a "Geodude is pretty decent, Chikorita was there too" rather than "Chikorita demolishes fights". It swept three gyms, two of them were to be expected and the one that was a bit of a surprise was due to being a higher level and being at +4 attack.

>>59179051
>newfag
so cringe.

>>59179051
Back to Twitter tranny

>>59179056
if you don't wanna get called out for samefagging, just don't samefag

>>59179060
Cry more faggot

>>59179067
Type that again without crying

>>59179060
so, so cringe.

>>59179052
So it was basically useless. No surprise there. Again, when your expectations were already extremely low, anything remotely beneficial will surprise you.

Reminder meganium will be worthless again in gen 10 since there won't be megashit

>>59179080
Pretty much. I wonder if anyone would even give a shit about it and defend it if it was just some random mon rather than a starter. Being "usable" does not make something good and I wish people could just accept that. Ungabunga with a strong mon is boring but it's also the objectively best strategy for in-game. When you're competing against shit like Kadabra/Alakazam (even Abra has higher speed and special attack than Meganium btw lmao) and fucking Heracross then it's not enough to be just usable.

are all grassfags that petty and autistic against one another? feel like rillaboom is the only exception to the rules and that’s because it suffer from having literally no fans just like emboar.

>>59179138
>(even Abra has higher speed and special attack than Meganium btw lmao)
meganium typically runs physical prior to getting a mega

>>59179138
"Usable" and "viable" are meaningless buzzwords people in these threads repeat like a broken record to feel good about their shitmons

>>59179052
>and had to use Geodude for Pidgeotto
How fucking bad is he? Just do >>59177707 and it goes down
>his was level 15 too
What the fuck? You don't even need to be that high leveled to solo it with Chikorita.

>>59179140
All of the galar starters are cracked ingame so there isn't really any infighting

>>59177062
the whole team is female because bugsy is female. we know that bugsy is a female trainer according to the game's code.

>>59179140
yes, but so are all firefags, waterfags, and pokefags in general really
this board is a testament to that. that's just how the pokemon community is. i wish we could all just get along

>>59179148
>pidgeotto used roost
>continues using gust
play the game faggot

>>59179149
>All of the galar starters are cracked ingame.
Not really. Rillaboom suffer the same fate as serperior where it’s a whortless shitmon for the campaign that get cucked by almost all mendatory fights unless it has its hidden ability

>>59179154
I did two back to back playthroughs of HG and SS recently. Gust is weak as shit and takes 3 hits before you need to actually click synthesis, "super effective" my ass.
>b-but roost
Poison powder. The AI is dogshit and goes for roost every turn if it feels that you'll knock it below half hp that turn. Poison powder followed a single attack has it panic and spam roost every turn, expending all of its PP.

>>59179153
meh, waterfags are pretty chill outside of their almost mutual hatred for both flavor of samurott

>>59179142
Okay then I'll compare with a physical attacker. You can catch a Geodue immediately at the start of the game and it only has two attack less than Meganium, who you don't get until lvl 32. Or you could grab a Heracross who has 125 attack in Azalea Town.

>>59179178
geodude isn't a kino sauropod, therefore it loses

>>59179182
>gay tranny logic
Geodude wins

>>59179187
>chikorita used razor leaf!

>>59179154
>poison powder cheese
If you can’t solo Falkner with your starter it’s kind of a skill issue ngl.

>>59179182
Neither is Meganium thoughbeit. It could have been, but instead it's a girly cutemon that vaguely resembles what COULD have been a really cool pokemon.
Also Geodude is rad as hell and actually pulls its weight in-game. Fuck you.

>>59179192
>weedle used poison sting!
>chikonigger fucking dies!

>>59179209
the joke doesn't work when it's not a 4x weakness. unless it's oddish and golurk.

>>59179174
>>59179198
>Miss Poison Powder twice
>lose to babby's first gym leader
Great strat.

>>59179203
>sharty lingo
could be a little more subtle there.

>>59178662
skill issue

>>59179216
doesn't need a 2nd type for it to flop to a weedle
why do none of the johturd starters have a 2nd type?

>>59179224
Huh?

>Bulbasaur can leech seed and status all campaign with ease
>Chicorita, Turtwig and Rowlet/Snivy if they count as slow bulky support grass starters are all unplayably bad
Why is this? What's the secret sauce Bulbasaur has?

>>59179231
Gen 2 was made to flop

>>59179231
>why do none of the johturd starters have a 2nd type?
monotype starters quite consistently have vastly superior designs to dual type starters.

>>59179237
>What's the secret sauce Bulbasaur has?
Auto crit razor leaf and decent offensive stats?

>>59179242
Biggest cope ITT

>>59179242
geg

>>59179248
Prove me wrong then.
>>59179250
>>59179224

>>59179247
He's still perfectly cromulent in gen 3 though

>>59177062
I will not defend it, instead I will play Crystal Legacy where he instead has pinwco and ledian.

>>59179254
Don't need to, it's common knowledge except for shitposting sharties

>>59179264
>it's common knowledge that monotype starters quite consistently have vastly superior designs to dual type starters
Glad we're in agreement.

chikofaggots don't even need to try for bump limit
only thing the shitmon is good at is making other trannies mad

>>59179272
>admitting to being a tranny
kek

>>59179265
I'm sorry, reading must be hard for trans women like you.

>>59179272
TRUE
Johto = Sharty

>>59179281
You said it sis, not me.

>>59179287
idk man johtochads aren't the ones using sharty lingo
see >>59179250 >>59179203

>>59179294
Takes one to know one.

>>59179298
>he hasn't been around long enough to recognize shartyniggers from a mile away
Lurk more.

>>59179294
jej

>>59179260
It matches up well against the first three gyms, and while razor leaf is nowhere near as good it at least still goes off of your sp.atk in FRLG so it's usable. After you get to Celadon is when Venusar starts to fall off and the other two would be better.

>>59179302
I see you right there, shartynigger. Go back to Twitter where you belong.

>>59179306
I was here first.
Johtochads birthed this board. You're on our turf.

>>59179314
>actual pokemania kids weren't here first
qeq

>>59179314
That's Kantofags. Sorry you got the scraps.

>>59179319
Unironically yes, learn your board history. The board exists because HGSS was so kino it broke /v/.

>>59179325
That's Pokemania kids talking about BW leaks, actually.

>>59179325
Wrong, /v/ wouldn't care about kiddie shit people hardly bought. Corocoro leaks is correct

>>59179327
>>59179334
You weren't here. It shows.

>>59179338
You weren't here and lied in every single post, it definitely shows.

>>59179340
I only speak the truth.

>>59179338
back to the shartycord, you failed

Mentally ill genwunner here
Didn't Gen 3 babs make this board? I remember coming here from the Nuzlocke forums

>>59179345
It was made in 2010, pre-BW.

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hgss hype and bw leaks happened around the same time, it was a bit of column a and a bit of column b
neither one of you is wrong but you're both retarded

>>59179222
On one of the playthroughs I missed it 4 times in a row and still solo'd lol. That's how I learned how little damage gust actually does, and really how stacked against Chikroita the RNG has to be to give Falkner a glimmer of false hope.

You're either a larper or legitimately the sort of person a babby-tier AI trainer would give trouble. Either way, skill issue is apt, yeah.

>>59179364
there was no hgss hype, it sold like trash lmao

>>59179369
no mainline pokemon game has ever sold like trash. even crystal sold 6 million copies, which is a financial success

>>59179365
>missed it 4 times
>Lvl 13 0 SpA 6 IVs Pidgeotto Gust vs. Lvl 13 0 HP 15 IVs / 0 SpD 15 IVs Chikorita: 14-18 (38.8 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
is that right

>>59179377
imagine training chikoshit to lv 13 and not boxing it immediately

>>59179380
Why would I box Chikinorita?

>>59179384
To use good Pokemon like the Kantomons

>>59179394
I want to use evil Pokemon like Larvitar and Murkrow thoughbeit

>>59179394
I'm gonna use good Pokemon like Meganium instead

>>59179400
Uh oh sharty lingo!

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>>59179402
...evil?

>>59179394
Based. Use the level 50 Magikarp too while you're at it.

>>59179400
in hgss you can get both of these after the 5th gym btw

>>59179410
at like level 15 and after 3 in-game hours (when you can beat lance) kek

>>59179414
>not taking time to smell the roses and play the side content
also you say that as if the upcoming battles are significantly higher in level than that

>>59179418
>johtards
>wasting time
name a more iconic duo

>>59179423
Meganium and trans men

>>59179423
Diddyphlosion and little girls

>>59179423
Feraligatr and toilets

>>59179423
>having fun when playing a video game is a waste of time
Ah, you're one of those.

>>59179425
>>59179429
>>59179431
holy geg

>>59179431
C-Can we go back to making fun of Chicorita please?

>>59179437
Ok
I feel like cutting myself every time I use Megashart

>>59179425
>>59179429
>>59179431
Mindbroken.

>>59179445
>he uses meganium
wouldn't that make you a tranny by your own logic?

>>59179377
What would happen here is
>Pidgeotto used Gust
>Chikoshit used Poisonpowder
>Pidgeotto used Gust
>Chikoshit used Razor Leaf for like a 6hko
>Pidgeotto sees kill so it'll outspeed and use Gust again
>Chikonigger fucking died

>>59179463
>Lvl 13 0 Atk 15 IVs Chikorita Razor Leaf vs. Lvl 13 0 HP 6 IVs / 0 Def 6 IVs Pidgeotto: 5-6 (12.5 - 15%) -- possible 7HKO
>>>possible 7HKO
l o l

>>59178123
>go off the beaten path for more kanto shitmons
>waste hours grinding dogshit touchscreen games for tms lol
all these complaints come from the game being designed like dogshit, they're the highest rated games by low iq nostalgia faggots for a reason and hated by anyone else

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what is it with this board right now and meganium derangement syndrome?
what is it about the flower dinosaur that sparks this much vitriol?
who fucking cares if it's "good" or "bad" for the campaign, pokemon games are so piss easy it literally doesn't matter one way or another. if you like it, use it, if you don't, don't. it really is that simple. you're all retards

>>59179472
what you don't like mashing a for a fucking shiny leaf???

>>59177062
I jerked off to Bugsy only after I found out he was a boy.

>>59179476
Meganiumfags are posting like Twitter niggers and newfags are taking the bait

>>59179472
>implying exploring to find cool new pokemon isnt kino
>implying the pokeathlon isnt kino
>>59179479
>implying bonding with your followmon isnt kino

>>59179476
Johto haters are all autistic freaks

>>59179484
It's 2026. We've moved on from gay flash games like the Pokeathlon and time-wasting features.

>>59179486
all of you are autistic freaks. this is embarrassing on both sides.
>t. johto enthusiast

The only gen that matters is gen 1.

>>59179491
>it's a waste of time even though it's fun
I think you're just boring. You bore me.

>>59179491
the only good thing hgss has is the battle factory (copy pasted from a better game).

>>59179484
The "exploration" in johto is trash and the encounters come through time gated measures, retardbro. and no, sloppily made touchscreen games for time gated items isn't kino either. sounds like the game is padded dogshit

>>59179499
I think you're low IQ and anything you say is just mindless drivel.

>>59179502
>The "exploration" in johto is trash even though it's fun
>the world feeling alive is a bad thing actually
>the minigames are sloppily made because i said they are

>>59179511
>mindless timewasting bullshit is fun
We know you do, room temp IQ faggot.

>>59179503
If my IQ is "low" yours is in the single digits.
>>59179514
>it's timewasting even though it's fun

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>>59179515
Here, I bet you'd find this fun too.

>>59179525
mega meganium isn't fun

>>59179514
NTA but it shows a lack of self-awareness when you mock the enjoyment of "mindless timewasting bullshit" while arguing on 4chan
the fact that you're in this thread spending your time arguing about a pokemon game shows that you too enjoy "mindless timewasting bullshit" to some extent

>>59179532
>NTA
lol.

>>59179497
Gens 1 and 3, 4 (Sinnoh only) and 5 are good. If you like Johto I think less of you.

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GOATo won

>>59179556
nah

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>>59179557
User reviews say otherwise.
Sucks to suck. Sorry that HGSS mogs your favorite.

>>59179476
Zoomers are obsessed with minmaxxing to the point that they are offended by even just seeing anything that doesn't offer the absolute best bang for buck. It actually makes them sick viscerally

>>59179564
If we're going by reviews then Kojo and Pokopia won. Sorry Johtranny.

>>59179566
>zoomers are smarter than me waaah
Funniest shit ever
t. '91