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Is there a console, that many people like, that you don't feel anything at all about? For me it's definitely the N64. I'm interested in retro consoles and have and want multiple, but the N64 looks so unappealing for some reason. The 3D looks like shit, the controller looks like shit, there don't seem to be any good 2D games. From the games, that I have seen for it, I never wanted to play any. That's why in my lifetime I don't plan on ever getting one. Should I reconsider it?
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>>12502078
what is even the purpose of this retarded fucking bait post
"I hate thing, change my mind,"
No, do your own fucking research and decide for yourself, you disingenuous asshole, and stop shitting up the board
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>>12502094
>what is even the purpose of this retarded fucking bait post
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>>12502078
>Is there a console, that many people like, that you don't feel anything at all about?
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>>12502078
>don't seem to be any good 2D games
Hmm it does though.
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>>12502078
The GameCube, or as I like to call it the GAYCube. Silly little lunchbox thing with no games worth caring about. Even the direct sequels to beloved N64 titles were massive downgrades (Wave Race, Mario Sunshine, F-Zero, 1080, Wind Waker, etc).
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>>12502078
I don't care for the N64, if you didn't grow up with it, it won't say anything to you behind a handful of games -- Mario 64, OoT, F-Zero X -- the rest are nostalgiaslop such as GoldenEye, impossible to enjoy if you didn't grow up with it.
Also I feel the PS2 is heavily overrated, but its library is so big that there's always something to play outside of a handful of titles to enjoy.
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>>12502078
I think the Saturn is ass. I'm playing panzer dragoon saga and the graphics are just awful. it's like the console can't render 3d properly. I tried TRE and RE and the PS1 versions are so superior. even N64 does RE2 really well with great optimisation. if you play anything 3d on a saturn it looks and runs like shit, add the fact I hate shmups and arcade games and to me, the saturn is easily in my top 5 worst consoles. and I have nostalgia for it too, I like the way it looks but I'm being objective.
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>>12502078
I have an n64 and there's really no reason to play it. The 3D is all the worst elements of early 3D in one and the games have been so highly iterated on in the following generations I don't really see much you can get out of it by playing newer games that are inspired by it.
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>>12502078
saturn. but if we're including handhelds, game gear is the only piece of hardware i ever bought that was just a total waste.
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>>12502078
The PS1, it insists upon itself.
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>>12502147
I thought Wave Rave: Blue Storm was better. Smash Bros obviously, too.
>>12502728
I like the ps1 more with each passing day.
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>>12502094
>what is even the purpose of this retarded fucking bait post
its a blog post, all these threads where there are 20 paragraphs sharing their opinion then asking "hey put your opinion in the comments ill read it!" is just an excuse to blog because the OP has no outlet for their observations.
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>>12502078
Yes you should reconsider, the N64 has some amazing games and honestly the graphics can look really nice as long as you play it on a CRT. It will look a lot shittier if it's just plugged into a modern TV.
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>>12502078
Of course you should reconsider, even if some games didn't age well or have primitive graphics in comparison you can't ignore that the N64 pioneered some of the most inovative games of its time.
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>>12502786
i havent played it since probably right around when it came out (it was just once at a birthday party), but i remember really enjoying it at the time. i dont remember the draw distance being this shitty. its crazy what we accepted as kids with no standards.
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>>12503250
I remember my little brother playing with the windup Shy Guy so much that he really did make his palm bleed, but it was also using one of those God awful Super Pad controllers, with had sharp-edged thumbpads
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>>12502078
Genesis, it has to be biggest nostalgiafag console to ever exist. I experienced everything before the fifth gen through emulation because I'm not a 90's baby and I was fucking dumbfounded how can anyone think this crap can compete with the Super Nintendo, which has groundbreaking classic after classic while the whole Genesis library failed to impress me at all.
Experienced both in emulators Zsnes and Kaga Fusion respectively, maybe 90's babies that had to deal with only having 1 console and 5 games see things differently but as someone who grow up with both of them and both of their libraries fully available Snes wins so fucking hard it's not funny and the thought of a rivalry sounds so ridiculous.
>>12502081
This too but let's be honest no one gives a fuck about the master system.
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>>12502078
The problem with the N64 games is how generic and shallow its games are.The simple abscense of a loading screen said a lot about what to expect from the game.
When starting a PS1 game, you can clearly feel the degree of craftsmanship invested in its production. Can't say the same for the N64.
I remember trying Gran Turismo for the first time and, wow... what a leap in technology and depth in video games. There's nothing like that on the N64... on the contrary, the N64 felt just like the SNES, but with 3D games.
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>>12503413
World Driver Championship is pretty similar. Not saying it's better. I don't fight console wars. GT2 was pretty hard to beat in that era if you wanted a more realistic console racer. I do prefer what arcade racing games the N64 has, though.
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>>12503441
>World Driver Championship is pretty similar
Literally nobody except the most ardent tendie has ever said those words. It's a bad game with awful driving physics, and any similarities to Gran Turismo are purely superficial. Even then it's lacking in many of the superficial things that made GT special, like the awesome licensed soundtrack. Can't have that on the N64 so you get generic butt rock MIDI music instead. Beyond that it only has 32 cars versus GT1's 178 or GT2's 618, and 10 tracks versus GT1's 11 or GT2's 27.
You can play it cool and act like you don't care, but bringing up garbage like that and calling it comparable reveals more than you want it to.
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>awesome licensed soundtrack
>car collecting
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>>12503503
I thought it was pretty obvious that I didn't think it was the equal of Gran Turismo 2, hence saying the latter was hard to beat. You very much have an axe to grind if you think saying it's similar implied anything about the inherent quality of either game.
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>>12502078
The only thing I like about the PS1 are the JRPGs. It's inferior to the other consoles in all other genres. The NES also for the most part has some really ugly games (yes even for the time) and a good chunk of them are Mario Party minigame tier. I also don't like the Xbox but it's probably just because western games are inferior on average.
>>12502081
8-bit systems just suck in general but I think the Master System is a bit underrated. Even though the NES had higher peaks with SMB3, Castlevania, Megaman, Zelda and Punch-Out, the average SMS game was miles ahead of the average NES in all aspects.
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>>12503519
Racing in the same hatchback that their dad owned whilst nodding their head to Dragula was how the cool kids spent their gaming time in the 90s, rather than playing Smash Bros and shoving Mario figurines up their ass like you and the rest of the autismos.
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>>12503307
The point of the Genesis was ports of critically acclaimed arcade games and sports games for normalfags at a cheaper price. Both of which are irrelevant for someone visiting the console's library nowadays since you can just emulate the superior arcade version at home and you'll just skip the sports games because that's normalfag crap. The only things the Genesis still has are the Sonic games (which are inferior to Mario games), Phantasy Star (made irrelevant with the large JRPG catalog of the SNES), a few random platformers (not as good as the ones in the SNES) and a better home console port of Mortal Kombat (again irrelevant since you can just emulate the arcade version nowadays)
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>>12504316
Sonic and Mario may both be platformers, but aren't really comparable
JRPGs, fair enough, you obviously have a much larger selection on SNES; although for me personally, I prefer Phantasy Star and Shining Force over many SNES exclusives (but even then, there are more quality SNES JRPGs than Genesis ones)
arcade ports being redundant when MAME exists: yeah, although there are a couple where I prefer the Genesis port, but they're the exceptions to the rule
I still believe the Genesis generally had a better action lineup, even if we exclude ports
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>>12504381
wtf are you even fucking talking about, lmao
if you did own multiple cars, a hatchback would be redundant
everyone around here basically had a truck and a sedan/van/wagon depending on how big the family was
hatchbacks were a largely Europoor phenomenon back in the '80s and '90s
so unless your father was was a stay at home dad, you were more than likely a one-car Britbong family
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Well actually i think most console are rated fine
Megadrive and Dreamcast are the best Sega consoles
PS1 and PS2 are the best PlayStation consoles
SNES is the best Nintendo console
N64 and GameCube are a downgrade from the SNES but still great consoles
360 is better than PS3
Wii and Wii u are trash
I agree with all those popular opinion
The NES may be a little underrated now tough
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>>12503307
>I experienced everything before the fifth gen through emulation because I'm not a 90's baby and I was fucking dumbfounded how can anyone think this crap can compete with the Super Nintendo, which has groundbreaking classic after classic while the whole Genesis library failed to impress me at all.
eh...if you only played on emulation you'll never really get a "feel" for the console
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>>12502078
I'm convinced that both the PS1 and PS2 in reality have only a slightly above average amount of great games. And they're propped up as these god tier hundreds of masterpieces deep libraries but in reality that's an army of 6-7/10 games standing behind Tekken, Final Fantasy, Spyro, Crash, KH, etc
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>>12504346
Well to the nerds in here like us yeah they play differently but on a more superficial look they're both platformers that are mascots for a console so comparison is inevitable.
I also prefer Phantasy Star and Shining Force over FF/DQ/CT and FE respectively but still even if they prefer the main SEGA ones any JRPG guy will feel more at home on the SNES.
I think the Genesis having a better action lineup is a bit debatable and depends on what do we count as an 'action' game. Is it just beat em ups, hack n slash, shooters? Then maybe, but if we throw Metroidvanias, action platformers in the mix then it gets a bit messier.
>>12504679
I get it but I feel like the popularity of the NES is undeserved especially in America where the Master System that outclasses the NES in graphics and game size / content was launched just a year after. Imagine Castlevania, Megaman on Master System.
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>>12499112
As I said in here, I've played NES and the DOS PC Archon on hardware but the C64 port only on emulation so I don't feel obliged to comment on it.
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>>12505510
I mean, ultimately, this sort of debate is pretty much just nothing more than armchair musings, anyway
I was a Genesis kid who got an SNES (Jr.) at the end of its retail run, but even so, I never really saw it as an us vs them sort of thing
I will say that having both owned and emulated the Genesis heavily, I'm at a point where I've pretty much beaten everything that I'm interested in by now, but the SNES still has quite a few games I've never tried, especially when it comes to JP exclusives
I feel sorta like a phony Genesis fan at times as I don't play it nearly as often as I used to, but that's probably to be expected as you age, I suppose
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Anything 3rd and 4th generation. They feel like consoles for flash games. Growing up with flash games probably ruined any mystique those systems could have had on me.
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>>12502078
N64 because it has no gaems but what it set out to do was just simply novel but not it a good way. It had big world 3D games and was like a proto-Xbox with local multiplayer FPS games but there is little reason to play those anymore, they have actually been obsoleted IMO. Meanwhile the PS1 has countless timeless classics and the Saturn has a few plus phenomenal arcade ports and great 2D sprite based games. What does the N64 really offer today besides Mario and Zelda? The console really feels like it was more multiplayer Nintendo kiddie games. They may have been ahead of their time then and still hold up well but there is no variety, you can get anything on the PS1 and it just feels so much more soulful most of the time too.
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>>12505510
>Imagine Castlevania, Megaman on Master System.
Yeah, sure, like the Master System's Ninja Gaiden is so much superior compared to the NES games. Master System is kinda impressive but the games are just ass.
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>>12506565
I feel the other way around: because I grew up with 3rd and 4th gen, which I consider the golden age of home video games, I could never enjoy more modern 2D games (like modern indies) because they all have that flash/mobile stentch that actual retro 2D didn't
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>>12502081
fuck yeah honestly I am absolutely repulsed by the Master System and NES. I grew up with the NES and the sprite flicker, abrasive sounds, limited colour palette,everything, always felt so unappealing to me. I even like the Atari 2600 more and I got that years later. I loved my Genesis and tried the Master System but found it equally unappealing.
I do like the PC Engine though.
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>>12502728
The 3DO insists upon itself. PlayStation is legit.
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>>12506785
>I grew up with the NES and the sprite flicker, abrasive sounds, limited colour palette,everything, always felt so unappealing to me.
>colour
Nice try, Australia -kun, but the ZX Spectrum is all that and more.
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>>12507201
Oi, me speccy lives rent free in your mind!
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>>12502078
I think anyone who says anything bad about NES, SMS, Genesis, SNES and TG 16 is just wrong, the good games have not really aged and they each have at least 100 really good games. They are just doing system wars to defend their childhood console.
>>12502090
Me too, it was good at the time but there are better ways to play those games now. The textures and video output are horrible. Its not as much like older systems which needed a crt for the graphics to look good.
>>12506785
I used to hate 2600 but now I even like those weird pong clones and sub 2600 hardware like Odysee, its interesting what they tried to do with so little.
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>>12508293
that doesn't describe Goldeneye well at all, lmao
in casual SP play, sure, you're often setting up for shots at stationary targets and leaning around corners (something you can't even do in the hackjob Xbox port), but if you're trying to unlock cheats, speedrunning, or playing multiplayer, you're hauling ass constantly. You will always run diagonally like some crab/human hybrid once you discover the superiority of the Solitaire layout. This also applies to Perfect Dark, as well.
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>timeless
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>>12504303
I will say that PSX is the weakest system in the gen for action games. N64 had much higher highs with Mario 64 and Banjo for 3D Platformers, Goldeneye and Turok for FPS, and Ocarina for action-adventure which outshine all their genre equivalents on the Playstation and make them look mechanically dated by comparison, and in the 2D action department the Saturn has much more hardcore sidescrollers, more shmups, stronger fighting games, and 2D multiplats on both overall tended to play much better on Saturn.
The PSX is nice for comfy genres like JRPGs or experimental oddball games but if i wanted to play a more challenging and traditional videogame i'd be much more drawn to the other two.
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>I will say that PSX is the weakest system in the gen for action games
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>>12510130
I mean, I only had a Genesis at the time, anon, lol
I think what we grow up with colors our preferences quite a bit. My first FF wasn't even a real FF game, it was the relabled SaGa games on Gameboy, the FF Legends games. I loved those, so went into playing the FF games expecting something very different by the time I got ahold of them. My parents also seemed to be good at buying consoles that Square didn't publish much on. I was too young for RPGs when I had an NES, and would only manage to rent FFIII a few times before my local rental place cleared out all their games for the next gen. So I just didn't grow up with FF in my life.
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>>12510262
>Find me an action-adventure game as deep as Ocarina of Time
Alundra
>a 3D platformer that controls as good as Super Mario 64
Crash 2
>action sidescroller as challenging as Psychic Killer Taromaru
What are you talking about it's not a particularly hard game...
Well anyway Chippoke Ralph no Daibouken
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Its funny for me its the PS1 that aged the worst the cutscenes in the games look awful N64 games aged better in my opinion and the first Xbox never appealed to me i never liked Halo and many games from the first Xbox have PC ports and i have never been interested in any Sega console except the Dreamcast because it has unusual and underrated games i think the Dreamcast was a very underrated console and shouldnt have failed i would like to buy a Dreamcast to play Shenmue and Space Channel 5
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The ps3, it's like the only console I can think of were there's not even 5 games on it that I would be excited to play. 7th gen overall isn't that exciting but I mean the 360 kinda mogged it
360 had viva pinata, blue dragon, gears trilogy, halo 3, dead rising, crackdown, lost odyssey, saints row, fable 2
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>>12503232
Mario party 2 has the same characters, and the better half of the minigames from the first game in it anyways.
But now with costumes, items, actual good boards and a better selection of new mini games.
If you were going to play Mario party 1 I wouldn't see why you wouldn't just play 2 outside of novelty. It's pretty much just a patched version of the first game
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>>12511486
Never played tlou but I know that was a pretty big deal near the end. Uncharted is probably less embarrassing than halo 4. I played very little ps3 in my life, it was always uninteresting but my favorite exclusive I did play at a friend's house was fat princess, that was a good time. No sequel building upon massive PVP multiplayer with classes is a shame
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>>12502078
For me it's the other way around. I like N64 graphics better than le PSX aesthetic but objectively there's only 1 good game on the thing (3 if you throw in Banjos). Meanwhile you could literally play the PS1 library for the rest of your life
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>>12511630
The N64 is something of a "you had to be there" console. It’s unlikely that you’re regularly going to be playing the multiplayer party games that it was popular for back when the fifth gen was current. The N64 is definitely lacking in major single player experiences compared to PS1.