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What's the best handheld to play
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Each console it was originally released on turned into a handheld.
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>>12506220
the cheapest handheld that can handle the lightest gamecube games
so probably the pocket air mini or rg vita
>>12506239
russ would call this pocketable
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I'm still loving my Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 and IPEGA PG9083s setup, it's not much, but for the price I payed for both it's great, the tablet doesn't run anything past PS1 too good, but does PS1 mostly fine, and the controller doesn't have the best directional pad, but again it's fine considering it was dirt cheap. I just finished Altered Beast with 3 lives and 3 HP for the 1st time, before I could only do it with everything maxed out, I did use continues aswell because I'm a filthy casual, I'll admit that.
What are you guys currently playing through and/or what did you beat recently? What handheld are you currently using?
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Tfw I have been thinking about getting a new device but I have nearly finished my backlog so I feel it would be pointless
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>>12506626
Google Pixel 3 + IPEGA 9087S. I'm currently using it for PSP and PS1 emulation, both of which it can run at 1080p. But a year ago I was playing DC and NDS.
I got the phone for 115€ refurbished and the controller for 15€. It's pretty good value considering I used it as my main phone for a couple of years before repurposing it into a handheld.
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Shit I really wanted to play n64 blast corps properly on my chinkheld but I don't think there is a way
>glide/parallel render fine but using the backlash lags like hell
>rice is just shit
>all the others are smooth but many 2d assets are completely black, including the world map
Help me /vr/ what can I fiddle with
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>>12506687
What do you use to emulate DS games? I used to use Drastic but it was inaccurate for many games I tried and had bugs or wrong speed so I switched to MelonDS which was more accurate but more demanding
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuWkJqD05l8
looks crap
>>12506717
Drastic, the only game I've ever had trouble with is Hotel Dusk for some reason, but it also plays up when I try it on DS emulators on PC
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>>12506717
I always used Drastic on my Pixel 3 and it worked fine for the games I wanted to play.
Is there a game that's very demanding in it's opening segment? I'm looking at the Batocera benchmark guide and for the NDS it says
>High-end (Pokemon Diamond/Pokemon Pearl/Solatorobo The Red Hunter)
I really doubt a Pokemon game would be the most demanding thing on the platform. Still, I just tried it out and I'm getting a stable 60fps with the default software renderer and an LCD filter enabled. OpenGL at 3x scaling also gets stable 60fps (but there's some visual artifacts). Both can be sped up to 170%-200% speed, so there's plenty of headroom I assume.
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>>12506748
hmmm... I was kind of skeptic about it, but I kinda dig this pocket watch format? It's not enough for me to buy one right now, but I'll keep it in mind. Also it all depends on how resistant is screen cover.
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>>12507286
Their hinges so far are the sturdiest out of any of them and their build quality is pretty solid in general. The Miyoo Flip already has a bad reputation for its hinges and the Mini as far as I know has had a few complaints about it. If you want to get the inferior RG34XX-SP then you don't even have to worry about the dome piercing at all since it's fixed there, it just has the crappy looking upper portion of it and sticks on a system that does not need sticks.
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>>12506626
Parasite 2 on vita and fallout on my razer edge. Finally got out of the dessert level which too longer because I reloaded like a bitch when a character died.
>>12506714
The flydigi wee 2 and any controller that cloned it purposely have awful stick snapping as a way to prevent drift.
>>12506748
Am I crazy, or does that not have a headphone jack?
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Perfection.
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>>12507581
what's the point? the size change of a clamshell without the angle adjusting and screen protecting qualities. plus a swivel systems that can't be trusted
what are the positives besides "it looks somewhat cool and unique sorta maybe"?
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>>12507585
>fell for the bluetooth scam
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>>12507581
I would rather wait for pic rel.
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Reminder that Miyoos first handheld had this many revisions.
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>>12507967
There are, yeah. Deleted my post for that reason. I scanned through some VGL vids and saw more than what I had posted. I'd recommend doing the same, since it's pretty obvious which ones have a TATE mode as you fast forward.
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>$125-150 budget, prefer used
>Plays PS2 games (Radiata Stories, Rogue Galaxy, Front Mission 5)
>Never had anything AMOLED, don't have anything to compare
>Needs SFC color buttons because autism
RP4 Pro? RP Mini v2? RG476H? RG477M? Hack my Switch?
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>mini
Discontinued. Retroid will most likely return to ips for the next one. Don't believe the mortgage shitpost.
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>>12507996
used RP4P are often overpriced
it has the worst screen
476h has a nice screen but it is not powerful enough to play ps2 flawlessly but I think there is a build of nethersx2 that works really well with the chipset but its still not 100% there for some games
477m you are never going to acquire for 150
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>>12507642
it's so they can sell you it again this time with an audio jack, oled, and something worse than the original
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>>12507996
>PS2 games
RG477M if you can actually find one used for $150. Although the RG557 is better in terms of ergonomics and performance. The M model is apparently slightly underclocked because it's metal.
>>12507642
>modern BT
>audio delay
You're retarded.
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Does the Thor actually live up to the hype? When it came out I heard some complaints about input lag and the touchscreen not being as good as the stylus but I haven't heard any complaints lately. Should I spring for it? I'm still using my original 3DS
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Guys, I haven't been paying attention. Have the RAM and storage price hikes affected handhelds? Maybe I was too late to the Thor meme and it's now twice the price? Not that I'd really need one to be honest. My DSi LL is doing fine with retro emulation, but I'm just curious. I obviously missed on buying a 3DS when they were cheap for example. Curious if it will get even worse.
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>>12508739
The specs are pretty good, but AYN is known for shoddy quality control. The 12GB and 16GB models are not worth it since they don't really impact the number of games you can play (at least right now since Android versions of Proton, aka GameNative/GameHub/Winlator, are still not good and Switch games are playable on the 8GB model).
>>12508750
It's fine if he wants to play even more games on a single handheld and if he wants a much better display. See pic
>>12508763
>Have the RAM and storage price hikes affected handhelds?
Yes. RG-34XXSP has gone down from 2GB to 1GB RAM. Some higher end x86 devices had to increase their prices by $100-$500, although those usually have 16GB-64GB RAM. The only thing that's not affected are the devices that have already been manufactured and are available in warehouses.
Future low end and mid range chinkhelds ($50-$300) could be relatively unaffected since they're usually in the range of 500MB to 8GB RAM. But I'd still expect them to be 5%-25% more expensive depending on how much memory they have.
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wtf? is it really that complicated to set up one of these devices?
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>>12508750
Mostly for the better battery life and to have DS games and other older systems look better. Also to keep my 3DS is decent condition, my A button is getting a little mushy so I don't want to abuse it too much more.
I was considering buying another 3DS that I won't have to worry about abusing but the Thor has me intrigued even though it's a bit more expensive I am not rolling the dice on a used 3ds especially if the Thor is good or maybe even better >>12508778
I'd probably just go for the 8GB version if it can run 3DS well as I'm not too interested in modern titles on it as I have my PC for those and I wouldn't be bothered messing around with configurating to get things to run but maybe that means the Thor isn't for me idk
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>>12508931
>I'd probably just go for the 8GB version if it can run 3DS well
The bottleneck in 3DS emulation is the CPU power and the maturity of the emulators. Even 2GB RAM would be enough for 3DS emulation.
I'm not sure if the "Lite" version (which has a slightly weaker CPU) is as capable of 3DS, but the "Base" model definitely is according to all YouTube gameplay videos I've seen. You'll just have shader compilation stutters which only affect first playthroughs.
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>>12508739
>When it came out I heard some complaints about input lag and the touchscreen not being as good as the stylus but I haven't heard any complaints lately.
Nothing has changed on that front. The touch screen feeling will never be the same because it's functionally a different technology entirely which is why you need a much bulkier and different stylus. The games will always fundamentally feel different to playing on a real DS or 3DS.
The input lag is still there and so far hasn't been addressed outside of the actual button input side of things so anything that requires you to use the touch screen longer than one second will become unplayable meaning any FPS games like Metroid Prime: Hunters or Dementium: The Ward, The World Ends With You, all the Trauma Center games, EBA and Ouendan, Ninja Gaiden DS, Rhythm Heaven, both DS Zelda games, and more are simply not playable in any realistic degree.
3DS emulation also sucks and has ever since its inception because of shader caching being a major issue tied to it causing visual and performance issues, the emulators constantly keep getting taken down by Nintendo so they have to keep picking up the pieces with new projects leading to them never being able to fully optimize it, and having visual or performance issues that never existed on a 3DS even when you get past the shader caching stuff. 3DS emulation is more mature than Vita emulation, but they're both not great at all unless your only plan is to play Pokemon really.
All that's really been addressed has been the screen desyncing on the Thor and RG DS. Past that you're getting a Thor more for the DS, 3DS, and Wii U side of things and only for stuff that doesn't rely on the touch screen for anything more than menuing.
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>>12508163
>Retroid will most likely return to ips for the next one
Good.
>>12508739
It's a good device with drawbacks. It doesn't have the precision of a resistive touch screen. The top lid is super thin and the hinge isn't 100% trustworthy. You have to use the carrying case or you risk braking the top screen. The ergonomics aren't very good compared to normal horizontal handhelds. The OLED panels have some image retention issues and are pentile. But it's a good emulation device overall.
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>>12509135
No. It improves it by an amount that makes normal games more viable to play. Neither the Thor nor the RG DS fix the input latency on the touch screen when in Rocknix/Knulli for inputs that are longer than a second. When Rocknix came out people were testing Canvas Curse I think it was and showed it's still not even close to being there yet.
I'd love for someone to actually make a proper video on Rocknix that actually shows touch screen games for an extended period of time, not stuff like RGC does that are non-touch screen-focused because it gives people the wrong impression on the system.
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>>12509147
I honestly don't think a lot of these youtubers care about the DS at all. They never really ever mentioned the DS or 3DS in their roundups of comparison videos when they were really good value and price competitive with other handhelds and the best way to play dual screen games, with a big collection they should have pretty much always come up as they themselves should have just had one in their rotation. Their Thor reviews even long term reviews barely touched on the touchscreen for DS games which through normal play if they actually played DS games should have come up as either a positive or negative, even if they don't play them it should have been a big focus on them trying out various touch heavy games to show it off
I know it's a joke that retro handheld enthusiasts don't play games but I actually believe it now
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>>12509185
Even in Wulff Den's review he wouldn't shut up about the Steam aspects of it instead of talking about what people actually want it for (DS, 3DS, Wii U). Hell, pretty much every review I've seen almost never even touches on how well it does on Android games despite having the capability of playing the big gachas for example.
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>>12509185
>I know it's a joke that retro handheld enthusiasts don't play games but I actually believe it now
I never believe Russ when he talks about what systems he's been playing lately. The guy averages a video every 3 days on top of writing in depth guides on his website and being a father.
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maybe the ram crisis will usher a new age of devices that instead of investing on delivering the highest possible specs they focus on maximum form quality, screen quality, speakers, etc.
would be a win in my book since I'm not really interested in playing anything post PS2
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>>12508763
New 34xxsp's have lower than even 1gb of ram which fucks with some ports. Confirmed by the powkiddy insider here, but powkiddy had to cancel the rgb50 for "production material price increase" and help smaller companies like gamemt and trimui produce their handhelds. Speaking of which, two of those handhelds had decreased ram too. (Smart pro s supposed to be 2gb, gamemt ex8 4 reduced to 3) ayaneo also maybe or maybe not canceled the pocket play.
>>12509308
The g99 on the ex8 is surprisingly good for winlator thanks to that specific chip having decent drivers.
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Serious question: what kind of longevity can I expect out of one of these chinkhelds? I'm tempted to get a Retroid Pocket Classic to emulate PC Engine RPGs but I don't want to spend $200 on something that's gonna stop working after a year.
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>>12509049
>shader caching being a major issue
That's just the reality of modern gaming. The only way to make the issue slightly less annoying is to automatically upload compiled shaders to some emu server, so that any time anyone else with the same SoC opens the same game they just download all the shader cache instead of having to compile it. I think Valve does this for the Steam Deck users since they're all using the same hardware.
>>12509141
Different graphic stack and rendering pipeline compared to Linux. There's just more latency.
>>12509298
My nigger, you don't need 2 sticks for the consoles this is capable of emulating. The PS1 games were all supposed to be playable without sticks and at most they only used the left one. N64 only had 1 stick. Any earlier console or arcade didn't have any or only had 1.
This thing caps out at PSP which it can't run that well anyway, but the PSP only had 1 stick too.
>>12509595
Retroid and most Anbernic devices seem to just work forever. Just look for any comments online regarding the specific model you're looking for.
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>>12509595
Shoulder button wear with heavy play. Screen quality lottery. Sometimes they also fall off due to the double-sided tape losing hold. Fans rarely going kaput on active cooling models. They're not usually as robust old Nintendium handhelds were, so they need to be babied more. Android handhelds seem more problematic than their Linux counterparts. Batteries will also eventually go to shit, but they can be replaced without soldering in most cases.
Normally, I'd suggest getting a cheapo $50ish handheld first to sorta get a feel for what you do and don't like about it, but with prices going up and models being downgraded or discontinued, that may not be a sound plan.
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Please… acknowledge me… I am performing as hard as I can…
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His EDC(Every Day Carry)
Do you also carry a flashlight everywhere you go that is color coordinated with the rest of your accessories?
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>>12510181
its a gimmick conversation piece, "look my keychain can play gameboy games isnt that cool eheh". its not comfortable to play in any way shape or form(even one handed turn based rpgs) for more than 2 minutes
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>>12510170
phone light isn't neary as good as a decent penlight or a right-angle light with a magnetic base
I like to carry a small floody right angle with me if I'm going out at night, with a red filter if I'm stargazing
also, not a fag that color co-ordinates EDC shit, but I do like bright colors for small things you might drop, as it makes them easier to find
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>>12510191
>is the RG nano in OP pic actually a good mini handheld if I only want to play GB/GBC/NES/SNES/GBA
>No, bad CPU, bad screen, not comfortable at all among other things
>Somehow this is considered moving the goalposts
Ok
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>>12510205
Stupid fucking consoomer, go buy your shitty nano and shut up already
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>>12510205
You mean this >>12510185? I literally added its content "it's not comfortable at all" to >>12510203 which was not in >>12510172(<--- wasn't my post by the way, I started chiming in with >>12510185 because I think the borderline unplayable ergonomics are an even bigger issue than the shit CPU, screen, etc)
If you really want maximum tiny size that's still playable look up the trimui model s. It's incredibly thin and essentially the size of credit card so you can potentiallt keep it inside your wallet
And that's the last post you are getting from me since you seem to have made up your mind and just wanna be combative
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>>12510210
Sorry you're so upset.
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>>12510370
you must be new
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiyH1D6RvZo
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>>12509049
when was the last time you tried azahar? they've had async shader caching for a while now and I think they just recently added shader cache storage as well. basically shader caching hasn't been an issue for me on monster hunter games and a couple of other 3ds games. maybe there are a few edge cases?
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Last I saw it still happened in stuff like Kirby Triple Deluxe and Robobot, the Mario games, Pokemon, Kid Icarus, and Yokai Watch. Feel free to prove me wrong, but my understanding even to this date is it's still requiring you to buffer regularly leading to hitches.
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>>12510897
im not interested in a game with long term progression that doesn't store save data locally.
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>>12511021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HZ-K_rJVdo&t=599
WHAT THE HECK
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>>12511024
fake youtuber voice/post editing syndrome
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>>12511024
It mostly comes down to the fact that he now uses god tier professional recording equipment instead of a garbage amateur microphone
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>>12510968
I did not know this. I'll see how to set it up. although I'm assuming this would make playing online with other people impossible cuz you'd have to prob send your saves to the server owners every time you want to play with friends.
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>>12510471
Use melonDS.
>>12510780
It's fine.
>>12511109
Have you ever installed an Android ROM on a device before? It's basically the same process.
1. enable developer mode in Android
2. enable "unlock bootloader" and "USB debugging" in "developer settings"
3. download the Android image (GammaOS)
4. install adb and fastboot onto your PC if you don't have those yet
5. plug in the Android device via USB
6. reboot into the android bootloader
7. open your terminal and use adb/fastboot to flash the image you've downloaded
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>>12511031
it's also because he uses background music throughout the videos now instead of nothing but stone cold dead air silence backing his vocals, but yeah the vastly better recording and audio mixing equipment is the main thing
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She chased some high scores while the sun set on poor life decisions
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THREE multitools and a knife? I used to carry a SwissTool on me years ago, and while occasionally used it, I eventually realized that it was sorta pointless as I generally had access to a toolbox either at home, or in my truck. They just don't do anything particularly well.
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https://github.com/TheGammaSqueeze/GammaOSNext/wiki/GammaOS-Installati on-Guide-for-Anbernic-RG557,-RG477M ,-and-RG477V-(SP-Flash-Tool,-Full-a nd-Lite-Builds)
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>>12510909
Why is it that their own site sells it for $250-320, but Aliexpress they sell anywhere from $450-800?
Ali never has that level of markup on anything else so what is so special about the Thor that it gets double and triple markups?
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>>12512024
sorry wrong thread
my interest in lego is currently beating my interest in handhelds
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I want one but I can't stand the blue button(grey model with blue yellow green buttons is even worse). How hard would it be to mod it to be pure black? I've never opened an chineseheld