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What year did gaming peak?
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>>12510475
It had a few peaks1982 arcade
1985 home computers
1992 Amiga/ST
1996-PS1 and PC
2005-PS2 and PC
2012 Xbox 360
2020 - Died RIP death by steam dlc, digital distribution, lootboxes, adware, spyware, pay to play, server based etc etc
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>>12510691
you could pick 2016 too, it's in that range, last 10-15 years, it got sick and then died. All things do though as will the internet, things change, things are born age and die. It's the way of everything.
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>>12510624
>I would add that most early 2000s games have also aged like dog shit.
Nonsense, really enjoyed a play though or emperor battle for dune recently absolutely peak era for great RTS, , love my PS1/PS2 stuff from around 2000 as well. You just don't like old games and need eye candy. 360 games may as well me modern games visually when played on a big HD TV on HDMI and really games have not moved on in any way from that era anyway. There are only about ten or so interesting games in the last decade, stuff like the dooms, days gone, elden ring, the hunt etc but even they are not very original. Gaming has been completely stone cold dead for years now though, they were the last beeps on the heart monitor machine that goes beep.
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>>12510715
>10-15 years ago
yeah it's when they started hiring legit psychologists to develop actual method to keep players in addiction/habit loops.
they didn't even hide it, saw one guy interviewed who was doing just this for a living in vidya companies as if it was just the next obvious business move. it was either prime time or noon news on a national channel(France).
i remember the word "optimization" being used.Candy Crushwas the biggest opening of that Overton window.
they didn't even hide it, saw one guy interviewed who was doing just this for a living in a vidya company as if it was just the next obvious business move. it was either prime time or noon news on a national channel(France).
the Chinese mobile gaming market exploded next with
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>>12510475
It's hard to pick a single peak really, but there are three distinct points that I think can be argued.
Early 90s, basically the console wars era, shit like SMW, Street Fighter II, Sonic 2/3, SoR2 etc etc. The feel-good days of 2D pioneering, plus Doom, the greatest game of all time.
Late 90s I see people argue for, where PC gaming had peak FPS/RTS while N64 was arguably peak Nintendo with SM64, MK64, OoT and so many more classics.
Then early 2000s, where the real highlight was the absolute dominance of PS2. Even though Nintendo/PC had good releases too, PS2 had this insane library of great games, even the mediocre stuff is fantastic by today's standards.
Picking a single year is almost impossible, but it's somewhere between 1990 and 2005, so I'll average it out and say 1997.
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>>12510720
Nah I started with the Atari 2600 and play mostly indie vidya now when I'm not playing retro. I don't care about graphics. There are just a lot of games from the early 2000s that you either had to play when they were new, and you would then love forever, or if you played them today they wouldn't have the same effect. Perfect examples are Metroid Prime and Final Fantasy X. I didn't play either of them until fairly recently and hated the shit out of them both. I'd actually even rank Other M above Prime. it's rare that you'll find anyone who played a lot of those games today who think they're good on their own merits. But go back just a few years to MGS or FF7 and people are still losing their shit over how good they are even now. I actually blame the graphics boost of PS2 era for carrying those games.
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>>12510475
It was all good in waves for 40 years until physical media and steam keys and the xbox store, playstation store etc etc. Final straw was must be connected. Technically probably around 2010 in terms of peripherals, graphics, sound but most of the ground breaking stiff before that came in waves
>>12510579
fair
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>>12510749
I don't think anything has done more damage to gaming than mobile gaming - the forced addiction loops, the monetisation, gacha mechanics etc etc. Absolute cancer of the industry that spread out of control.
Even before that though, the push for greater profit is the source of most damage. It's the reason PS2 was the last great console, because even though you COULD get online with it, every console afterwards put it front and centre. That's why PS2 had hundreds of great single player games while Xbox coasted on shitty overrated Halo just because it introduced online multiplayer to a generation of kids too poor to have PCs.
That's also why non-Nintendo consoles have been dying post X360, Nintendo mostly resisted the online bullshit and still now tries to prioritise LOCAL multiplayer - I feel like I could write an essay on the fucking genius of the Switch, because most people seem to miss that the main purpose of it was to 'solve' the multiplayer issue. Just a shame it took them a little too long to figure it out.
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>>12510759
Nonsense diablo II is a great game, in fact that was a peak era for great RTS that hold up as well e.g like I said
>>12510720
>emperor battle for dune
empiure earth. warcraft 3 etc
All hold up perfectly and PS2 games do to.
>>12510759
>Metroid Prime and Final Fantasy X
Not a fan of either different strokes for different folks. PS2 took a couple of years to get warmed up. You're not into strategy games and that's fine but there was great stuff going on in the late 90s 2000s if you do and it's mostly what I am playing right now. It's nice to throw them on what would have been a beast XP or Win7 machine with a 970 or 750Ti on maximum with a dual core or quad core
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>>12510776
Early 2000s PC definitely had a lot more games that are still fun now than the console games of the same era. I know it might be an oversimplification, but I think since PC developers still had to make their games playable on low end systems they still had to put the emphasis on fun game play rather than snazzy graphics. Rollercoaster Tycoon is still fun today and it could run on anything. You could play Sims 1 on a 200 Mhz 32 MB RAM system no problem. Meanwhile the consoles had all the flashiest games but most haven't aged as well.
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>>12510475
‘96 but I don’t know if the first games of franchises should be considered the the peaks or the best games. Saw 1 is not the best Saw but the creative differential from what came before was the greatest.
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Peak: 1998
The Last Good Year: 2007
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>>12511515
Before 1983??
>>12511497
Yeah that was kinda my point, hence why I said it's spread out of control. I remember the one bad thing that came in the PS2 generation was the shovelware, but at least it was manageable then - the games were just put in the bargain bin and that was that. Steam over the last few years though, and the Switch eShop, are just saturated with shovelware to the point where it's hard to sort anything remotely decent from the shit.
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