JUST. EMULATE.

New hardware is UNNECESSARY and WASTEFUL.

I don’t trust them enough to preorder it. If it really is a 1:1 relica I might entertain it.

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Dude, they've been selling remanufactured MVS superguns on AliExpress for ages.

Intriguing, especially if it works with mvs adapters. Willing to try it if the quality isn't dogshit.

>>12511717
NOOOO I'VE INVESTED SO MUCH IN MY AES SYSTEM

Will it only have hdmi ports?

>>12511717
is it just an ARM emulator in nice plastic shell again

>>12511756
No it still has an analog port for CRTs.

>>12511760
Also rgb output.

>>12511717
Reprinting games is cool. Those old neogeo games are expensive

>>12511767
That’s the bare minimum as that’s what the original had.

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>>12511767
Should clarify, all aes had optional RGB as well as the more typical composite output, but many versions had really shitty rgb and had to be modded.

The rgb bypass suegery shouldnt be nevessary on the new console.

>>12511720
ewwww i’m not playing in front of a monitor on a stinky pc. stfu trying to tell me what is wasteful, you little shitstain

So its apparently using chips based on the original, so that makes it less a modern mini console and closer to stuff like the Genesis 3 and Core system game gear. Honestly pretty cool, but my pessimistic side makes me think they will fuck it up somehow.

I would definitely buy the system, but will probably avoid the new games unless they are doing proper mask rom chips.

Would be neat though to see aes versions of mvs or cd exclusives like Nightmare in the dark and ironclad.

Nintendo would make so much money by making brand new NES, SNES, and N64 consoles using the same chips or clone chips AND reprinting carts of their own classic games, but they are convinced stringing people along with Nintendo Online's meager line up is the best course of action (even though they could do both at once, as the audience is different).

>>12511717
I have the original AES. I wonder if the repro carts can play on my original AES. Even if that's the case, I already have a flash cart. I'll just wait for the reviews to come out. Also, emulation for the NEO GEO is good these days.

>>12511759
No... They are trying to make new hardware based on the original design, using the same old chipset.

No emulation, no fpga. Now, whether they can pull it off or not and whether it is gonna be even remotely affordable for a fanbase who never had the chance to even see one of those, is another thing.

Having said that, the fact it is gonna be a preorder thing, makes me feel that yeah, its gonna be as expensive and prohibitive as the original. So a new generation of daddy's rich kids will be the only ones to experience what a true console is like.

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>>12511717
>anything but make an actual aes mini

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>>12511828
Ahem

>>12511717
>Looks like they're reprinting classic AES games too.
By putting the rom on an usb stick?

>>12511813
So... Speaking of prices. The main console seems to aim to an around 300$ preorder price while the games are gonna be 50$ a piece.

This sounds WAY too good to be true.

>>12511807
I would buy the shit out of properly manufactured carts for Earthbound Beginnings and the English version of Fire Emblem on nes, starfox 2 and various Nintendo Power and Satellaview titles for snes and dragon hopper and zero racers for virtual boy.

>>12511720
The only good thing about these type of releases is the new original controllers to use on pc. Hope the stick is as good the original.

>>12511828
That was the NeoGeo X.

>>12511851
No. It seems to be actual replica motherboards. They claim the system is fully compatible with the original existing AES carts.

Theres no way those new carts are gonna be using sticks. Having said that, the fact that they are selling them at actual affordable prices makes me think they are gonna be cheap in quality and less durable compared to the originals.

>>12511859
Im curious how they compare to modern NG carts that cost 300 for new games like Kraut Buster and NG.Dev stuff.

>>12511717
What I want to know is what games they're repro-ing. The ones that stick out to me are Shock Troopers (Which never got an AES cart originally, it was MVS exclusive) and Metal Slug 1.

>>12511791
I'm curious as to why no one bothered to make a Neo-Geo-on-a-chip until now. The NeoGeo used a 68000, which was reverse engineered decades ago by companies like TecToy, which produces Genesis clones to this very day. It probably comes down to the fact that cloning a premium Japanese console just wasn't a very high priority for a Brazilian company like TecToy.

>>12511859
>No emulation - Powered by re-engineered ASIC chips
Effectively the same an an FPGA.
The new carts also most likely use one cheap FPGA/ASIC and a few MBs of RAM and some flash instead of the old PCBs filled with chips.

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>>12511717
Oh no, I filed my return last month and spent it all already. This is exciting news, and now I have to start saving up for it. Wish there was some warning so I could have allocated my resources to getting it. It is exactly what I want, an affordable way for me to enjoy the games without resorting to emulation as I've been doing with the CBOX.

>>12511868
If they claim the system is indeed compatible with the original carts, then they cant use that method for their new carts.

Also, they DID mentioned that this is not an fpga approach. They are aware of the difference... Or so they say. Whether if it is indeed true or not is another thing.

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NOOOOOO MY RETIREMENT FUND!!!!!! STOP STOP STOP DO NOT BUY!!!!!

>>12511840
not an aes

>>12511858
they completely bombed that

Would be nice if the popularity of this results in a different company manufacturing actually semi affordable mvs to aes cart adapters.

I don’t like wireless controllers. I think the emf is dangerous

>>12511878
I mean, you don't have to get it. In fact, I'll list the following considerations in regards to playing NEO GEO:

>Emulation for the system is perfect. You can play the games perfectly fine on MAME or FB Neo.
>Not every game you might want would get a reproduction
>In regards to fighting games, Fightcade offers online matches and is based off of FB Neo

If these considerations don't mean much to you, then go ahead, buy it.

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The launch titles for it seem like a good mix of the early games.

The console comes with metal slug for line $250n or $999 with pic related. Or you can buy them for like $80 each.

>>12511869
Arent those consoles still actual NG boards but repurposed? That is still original hardware, the only chinese thing there is those multicarts.

>>12511859
Also, i just checked the store page for the carts. They say the carts are compatible with the original aes console, so no, they cant memory sticks or anything. They have to be the real deal... Only possibly cheaper and easy to break.

>>12511854
>>12511807
Modern Nintendo is about finding innovative ways to cuck their loyal fans. They won’t re release physical games since they figured out tendies will gladly fork out for a monthly subscription to borrow ROMs

>>12511916
>No NAM-1975
>No Metal Slug 2-5
>No Shock Troopers 2
>No Ninja Commando

Why even bother.

>>12511920
>Also, i just checked the store page for the carts. They say the carts are compatible with the original aes console, so no, they cant memory sticks or anything. They have to be the real deal... Only possibly cheaper and easy to break.
How come? There are plenty of flash memory carts for other retro systems.

>>12511927
That is the first batch. If they sell well they will reprint more games.

>>12511872
Having an FPGA doesn't mean it can't have a cartridge slot for original games. Just implement all the data lines to the cart.It also doesn't mean that it has to be inaccurate. If you implement the chips properly, you get the same end result as with original chips.
But it's super easy to mass produce compared to an actual original NEOGEO.mainboard or game.

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>No money idol exchanger
What's the point then

>>12511916
$1000? Shit, I'll stick with FinalBurn Neo.

>>12511963
Thats the ultimate edition (console, 1 extra stick, 1pad, 1 memcard, all 10 games first run).

The console is being priced at 200$ alone or 250$ the white anniversary bundle with Metal Slug. The games are priced at 50$ the piece.

>>12511958
Oh sure, the system is already pretty easy to emulate in any hardware and im sure theres an FPGA implementation just as perfect. But the point here is not accuracy, but authenticity.

If the console and games were to use fpga hardware instead of the original chips, or at least something similar but still compatible, then they would be lying to the public. A disaster identical to the NGX handheld. Neither SNK nor the maker of this new console can afford to lie again.

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>affordable copies of MoTW, Neo Turf Masters, and Metal Slug
I can't habeeb it

>>12511968
Yeah, I got that from the image, but it's hard to consider it when my Batocera machine has every Neo Geo game and then some, and only cost like $70 total. It's hard to justify the purchase, especially in these trying times.

>>12511973
They could use an one time programmable FPGA and say it's an ASIC. There's no functional difference.

>>12511973
FPGA or ASIC, you won't be getting old PCBs filled with old "authentic" chips either way. Everything will be handheld by one chip.

>>12511968
the games are priced at $90 a la carte

what is good on neogeo that isnt metal slug, neo turf masters or fighting games that are only fun if you have a friend who comes over and learns the game with you (I dont have friends)

>>12511717
Bundle is an awesome deal but they'll rip me off in taxes because its over a certain limit. I'll have to split it up.

>>12511791
I think it will end up being something like arm since they are the company that did the Atari 7800+. Their website says nothing like what some people are saying https://plaionreplai.com/pages/neogeo#hardware. Still even just making a white shell for the system is pretty amazing but I think it could be a promo guy going a bit overboard.

>>12511859
So far they were able to make atari 7800 cart including the pokey chip. This is a big step up in chip density though.

>>12511986
I think to make real chips you would need a minimum order of 20k or so, they were able to do it with A7800 carts but I'm half hopeful. Using fpga like Palmer Lucky is pretty inefficient.

>>12511869
At least now you can get a real controller and memory card. I only have the jelly bean controller.

>>12511867
The later Neo Geo boards were not far off from being an SOC. NES, Sega and C64 SOC existed and they could have made them accurate if they cared.

>>12511786
You can emulate with a CRT you know

>>12511813
>using the same old chipset
are those chips in production anymore?

>>12511746
Link for clear Aliexpress Neo Geo mother base?

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>>12511717
I absolutely guarantee that it will not be worth it.

If you want a real period-accurate Neo Geo experience in the ways that matter buy yourself a NOS Seimitsu LS-32/LS40 lever + Omron XW6Z-0011 buttons and mount them in an arcade stick with a Vewlix layout. I recommend a Mayflash F500 V2.

All parts together shouldn't cost you most than about $150. And you'll have the *exact* set-up used on Japanese Neo Geo MVS machines, including what was used in official tournaments.

>>12511717
>Gameplay on the NEOGEO AES+ is not achieved through emulation; instead, the console is powered by its legacy ASIC chips, re-engineered by modern standards to accurately replicate the original machine's
also known as a "system on a chip". The same kind of technology used in the famiclones people have poo-poo'ed for years.

>>12512073
but that's not the AES experience

>>12511720
New hardware is based, fuck you.

>>12512116
wrong

>>12511813
Price is estimated to be 250 USD and 90 for games. The games are pricey, I would have liked to see them be like... 20-30.

>>12512073
>Omron XW6Z-0011
Can these still be found anywhere? I have a NeoCandy 29, but I think I put in Sanwa buttons when I got it (iirc, it originally had random colored buttons in it from its life as a church cab). The joysticks were original but worn to shit, I replaced some of the internals but P1 still isn't the snappiest, I'm guessing some of the microswitches could be worn out.

>>12512118
>Wrong
Wrong. Why the fuck would you not want new retro consoles? WTF is wrong with you? The original Neo Geo is extremely expensive, this is actually an affordable option. Nobody cares about devaluing your expensive retro collection. This is a win for the human race if they don't fuck it up.

>>12512124
And from a quick check, it would seem that these buttons would be borderline impossible to find, much less in new or minimally used condition.

>>12512108
The AES experience is a joke. It's the toy version for lonely gamers at home afraid to play in a public arcade against other human beings.
Play the real big boy Neo Geo, the MVS.

>>12512124
>Can these still be found anywhere?
Yes, if you take the time to sift through the various online auction sites. It won't be as easy as going on amazon and clicking "Add to cart", but they are still around if you put a little effort into it.

>>12512135
>Video game consoles are LE BAD
Also I just want to say this fucker better include USB ports for third part sticks that use them.

>>12512138
Also, the Omron buttons use reed switches (like the Sanwa RG series), so they last an extremely long time. Even if you find some that are beat up and dirty, they can probably be restored.

The Omron buttons are bouncier and have slightly longer throw than the Seimitsu PS-14-G that a lot of people use as substitutes. Strictly speaking, the modern Sanwa and Seimitsu betters are probably objectively better in performance. But if you want the authentic 90s Japan feel you'd go for the Omrons.