>>3955447
>30-something and still not married.
Why, what's wrong with that?

>>3955450
For a woman? It means she's lost half her reproductive years. Objectively worse choice for men who have built something of themselves and desire children, especially considering she'll be 60-65 when the grandkids come in instead of 50. Geriatric by the time the grandkids are 5. A poor choice for the woman to lead your family's child rearing.

>>3955455
Maybe she doesn't want to get married?

>>3955456
Look at that butter face. She's definitely a femcel.

>>3955450
In Japan if you are a woman and aren't married by your 20s you're considered an old maid.

>>3955462
By the end of your 20s, I mean.

>>3955462
I don't think she cares though.

>>3955462
That's how it should still be here. People don't realize how little time they actually have to make babies.

>>3955551
For the first time in human history, it's the people who like and want to have kids who are actually reproducing as opposed to kids just overwhelmingly happening by accident.

We already have 3, going on 4 generations of this in the societies most affected and the results are skewing ever harder each generation.

Who am I to argue with evolution producing a bunch of baby crazy young mothers because technology allowed those ambivalent about it to drive themselves to extinction?

>>3955551
In the west you can choose to give birth in your 20's and be forever reliant on a failing welfare state that is swarmed by parasites like a newborn calf during siberian summer, while gambling for the 40% of marriages that dont fail and destroy your life sooner than later or being a trustfund nepo baby starting out being set for life at birth.
The only option to move up from pauperism and gutter societies or even keep your middle class life right now is to bring in a full academical degree level salary per person for ~20 years without additional spendings until you can reasonably step it down a notch. But that means you are at least 45 at that point. People know very well hoe little time they have. They are just not dumb enough to make themself a crippled lamb in the wolfs pen just to keep the shitshow running for boomers being able to burn their exploit wealth for another decade until they finally all kick the bucket or internet incels not being mad at them.
Same with Japan btw. Women not marrying and going for personal wealth is simply the smart thing to do when there is no one left to support you in a society of 60 year olds gatekeeping everyone else from advancing.

>>3955649
>overwhelmingly happening by accident.
Sex is not an "accident".

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>>3955455
>half

Most. There's a reason why pregnancies past 30 used to be referred to as geriatric.

>>3955447
chud logic

>>3955447
being imprisoned in the gotta-prove-myself-as-a-woman mentality will fuck women over. just do your thing if it's your thing.

where has anybody seen a similar "strong and independent man" meme being popular? what for a modern woman is a "sign of winning" is for a man of the same era a stain. this should tell you all you need to know about what effectively is and will always remain a farce.

>>3955447
would you?

>>3955459
She just looks like a dyke to me.

>>3955655
I promise you all that things are not this bad.

There's this weird idea out there that if you aren't at least middle class, you shouldn't have children. Which is frankly, just a eugenics position. Given the option of being dead and being poor, I'd take the latter. But being a parent myself, I won't deny its a lot of work and if you have shitty extended family, your support structure is very limited. Your income will determine how frugal you have to be, but it can work. And frankly, there's no shame in using things like SNAP or WIC as long as you are working. Keep in mind also that even one kid gives you a massive tax credit every year.

>>3955649
This is neat, but scary. On one hand, we'll likely have less abused and traumatized children since those parents want to be parents. I'm convinced this will overall lead to a better society. On the other hand, I expect a population decrease and I highly doubt our government will want less taxpayers, opting to import them instead. The overall country and culture then risks becoming a Ship of Theseus situation.

In the end, the idea of ending a line of procreation that extends backward through time, all the way back to the first complex proteins in primordial Earth, just fills me with an existential horror.

>>3955455
She doesn't look like she wants children.

>>3955455
>men who have built something of themselves and desire children
So, not you

>>3957097
>Do you think it's Unforgivable antisocial behavior
No, I don't think so. That's personal choice. Also not a feminist take, it's equal for every human.
Also arguing about whether that is "anti-social" behavior in one of the slowest board filled with antisocial people is ironic.

>>3958733
Its not about the children. Its coming into existence yourself in a pit of shit when you are lowborn and taking responsibility for a child means chaining your feet to a sack of bricks in that situation..
Sure if you push it all your life you and your bricks will stay afloat, maybe but thats all you can hope for and thus you stay forever where you came to life yourself. A child is the guarantee to wont move upwards socially, thats not eugenics thats taking care of yourself. I didnt crawl out of the shitpit for two decades to get tossed back in because I secured the future for the very same people who put me there in the first place. And I dont sit in place being content with being covered in shit hoping the state will give me the leftovers from yesterdays banquet so I wont starve for another day, wont have my landlord evict me so I'm homeless or in terms of a woman hope some rich guy will go on a shopping tour and buy me out of my misery.

>>3955459
Femcels aren't real

>>3959334
I would try to count my blessings and appreciate what I have/earned if I were you. If you live in America or any other first world nation, we have it better than most people on this planet.

It can always get worse.

>>3959577
>If you live in America or any other first world nation
>USA
>first world nation

>>3959586
America is the only first-world nation. Everyone else just lives off of our tablescraps.

>>3961227
Reminder pajeets are working 24-hour to keep your servers alive

>>3965599
Servants serve their masters, what else is new?

>>3965620
A master relying on slaves to function don't really seem that impressive

>>3965626
Yeah I guess literally every civilization prior to the 19th century wasn't impressive