I think FFVIII is one of the weakest games in the series, and I still say The Extreme is the best final boss theme in the series. The game's OST is pretty hit-or-miss for me, but when it hits it hits hard. The one-two punch of Maybe I'm a Lion followed by The Extreme always makes me walk away from the game forgetting how lackluster everything that lead up to it was.

>>3956837
What are they talking about?

>>3956852
They all wanted to destroy the world

Kefka succeeded so he's bragging about that
Ultimecia was stopped by Seeds, Swarming like loKusts across generations, so she's probably kursing them
Kuja destroyed his native world but then he had a change of heart and sacrificed himself to save Gidan and the gang and spared Gidan's world, so he's probably thinking about his regrets

>>3956837
>The Dark Messenger
...You mean the we will rock you song? Or are you mistaking that for Necron's theme?

>>3956866
my sister in christ it's so much more than 'the we will rock you song'

>>3956870
Kuja Theme - we will we will rock you
Kuja Theme 2nd Step - Perfect, no upgrade required
Kuja Theme 3 - Dark Messenger - ????? The pac mania song?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXPLlJTOXCA

>>3956876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4AQ7kRcn_A

If you had played FFIX you would know the track instantly. No I don't give a fuck Squenix changed the name, this will always be The Dark Messenger

>>3956879
I know the track I just wanted to say that because anytime necron is mentioned it causes immediate chronic seizing because he has the better theme

>>3956890
nah he doesn't

I like this orchestration that blends all three of Kuja's themes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUp-eb2AA9w

FF9 has the best OST
Beyond the Gate is the best ff song period

>>3956879
>If you had played FFIX you would know the track instantly.
You're going to hate me but I just don't find IX's soundtrack memorable. The only track of note is the novelty battle tune vs. the friendlies.

>>3956912
I can’t remember a single song from 9. 10 probably has the best soundtrack overall, 7 second place. Hell I can remember some bangers from 3 or 6, but absolutely nothing from 9

I can recognize instantly:

Vivi's Theme
We are Thieves! (aka Tantalus theme)
Vamo' alla Flamenco
You're not Alone
Zidane's Theme
Amarant's Theme
Battle 1
Crossing Those Hills
Daughter of Madain Sari (aka Eiko theme)
Kuja's Theme
Immoral Melody
The Dark Messenger
Qu's Marsh
Quina's Theme
Freya's Theme
Steiner's Theme
Jesters of the Moon
A Place to Call Home
Gargan Roo
Roses of May
Gurugu Volcano
Mystery Sword & Protecting My Devotion

>>3956958
and the boss battle theme too of course

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>>3956879
>>3956837
The reason why Dancing Mad is so memorable is that it was emulating one of the most complex ELP Epics, Tarkus, and you'd just never heard anything like that literally in a video game before; the other themes are a lot more plausible.
https://youtu.be/AGGpBXd7ToA?si=Oeol6g5Uas5_Wkaf

https://youtu.be/g6UgxJtHIVY?si=m1rslqwI-GxNzS5g

>>3956866
The Dark Messenger is Kuja's leitmotif. I think it plays during the silver dragon fight on Terra, too. But his actual boss theme is The Darkness of Eternity. Which is a good song, but I don't feel it as much as some other boss themes in the series.

I think Last Battle 3 (Cloud of Darkness' theme) is underrated. I love how punchy it is, and the fact that it was made on the NES with its four fucking sound channels makes it even more impressive.
https://youtu.be/yQYh5TB-trI

>>3957063
>But his actual boss theme is The Darkness of Eternity
Boycott Squenix changing iconic names. His boss theme has always been called The Dark Messenger.

>>3957114
>Boycott Squenix changing iconic names
It will always be Aeris.

>>3957115
OG FF7, modded, it's Aerith and will always be.
Demakes a shit.

>>3956837
these women need to find husbands

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>>3957330
Presuming Rinoa and Squall ever married, technically Ultimecia had/has a husband.

>>3956837
>>3956839
Best version of The Extreme, better than the original even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fayTxyje98

>>3957122
>OG FF7, modded, it's Aerith and will always be.
You don’t need mods to be able to spell Aeris’s name wrong. That functionality is built into the game, and weebs did it in the 90s.

>>3956837
>Trying to squeeze in IX with VI, VII and VIII
Stop pretending it's on the same level.

>>3956861
>They all wanted to destroy the world
And they all succeeded in doing so.
Kefka is a straight up winner.
Ultimecia achieved compression but was defeated after the fact, which undid all her work.
Kuja succeeded in destroying Terra but bottled it when it came to Gaia in round 2.

Meanwhile, Sephiroth was stopped by a dead street-girls prayer.

>>3958715
>Meanwhile, Sephiroth was stopped by Omnislash

>>3958715
Kuja decided Gidan had a point and sacrificed himself to save the gang. Gidan acknowledges so when he stays behind so that Kuja doesn't die alone after teleporting them all to safety.

>>3958715
>compression
>not kompression

>>3958516
Good up until the two-minute mark. Guitar too stanky for this composition.

>>3958813
Hard disagree.

>>3956837
I agree, but I don't think Kuja really deserves to be put together with Ultimecia and Kefka in terms of pure evil. He was an asshole, and selfish, but he didn't want to annihilate all of existence and reality forever.
He was a great villain, and fabulous and likeable. And he was pretty evil in his own way. But not like Kefka or Ultimecia. Those two aren't characters you could ever, ever develop any kind of rapport or relationship with. They're more like philosophical ultimatum or even forces of psychology, not really people or personalities. Kuja could have turned over a new leaf and repented and become a better, more likeable person as he was beginning to do by the end of FF9. He was a victim as much as he was a villain. He was the last boss, but he was actually just the tool of a far older, far wiser threat. He was a naive little boy, just like Zidane used to be... But, because of pure chance, Zidane had the opportunity to escape his abuser much earlier in his life.

But anyway, back to the original topic, yes.

>>3956852
Bob Mackie.

>>3957443
Rinoa/Ultimecia spent time with Squall and then he died of old age and she never recovered from it. So in the future she wanted to collapse time into an eternal moment so that she could spend forever with him again.

>>3959556
'80s glam pop rock will never be epic or classic. Get the fuck over it. It was just the stylization of the pop music of that decade, and never could be anything more. That's what it means to be pop music.

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>>3959889
>[Kuja] was the last boss
This is now a Necron thread.

>>3959889
>he didn't want to annihilate all of existence and reality forever.
He literally did.

>>3959911
Not really. He was lashing out after discovering he was going to die, when he said that. Which was a pretty natural reaction, but also not a moment you should interpret as being his actual motive for living, especially since it conflicts with his more consistent statements all throughout the game up to that point.

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>>3960120
100% agree ratio

>>3960028
So what you're saying is he's having a man-childs tantrum

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I really like FFX's Story-boss theme, gives a real sense of danger and urgency rather than a triumphant heroic feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87m2Bs9xp6c&list=RD87m2Bs9xp6c&start_radio=1

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>>3960480
I apologize, I posted the Demaster shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWE_214fXuU&list=RDkWE_214fXuU&start_radio=1&t=74s

>>3960475
Well yeah. That's why he's a villain. Because he's an asshole. That's what happens to abuse victims who remain without any constructive support structures that parents and family normally provide. The victims ultimately grow into undeveloped, emotionally-unregulated and dysfunctional people. They're doing the best they can with brains that were shaped by abuse, neglect and isolation.
He's a manchild asshole who caused extraordinary grief, anguish and destruction as a consequence, ultimately, of his life experiences up to that point. It's pretty natural and normal for people who have survived that kind of thing. It's literally why he's the villain.
If his life had unfolded in a different way, like what happened to Zidane, he wouldn't be the person he became. It's tautological. So congratulations, you're discovering how life works... just like he finally did...

>>3960120
The answer is yes. Yes 7 is WILDLY overrated.

>>3959894
villains of culture

>>3960651
>That's what happens to abuse victims who remain without any constructive support structures that parents and family normally provide. The victims ultimately grow into undeveloped, emotionally-unregulated and dysfunctional people. They're doing the best they can with brains that were shaped by abuse, neglect and isolation.
Holy cope-sign projected in the sky fagman, could you project any harder...

>>3960485
It's kinda crazy how the remastered tracks are just consistently a bit worse than the originals. I'm playing through the remaster now and I tried to give the arranged tracks a fair chance, but every time something would come on I thought, "It's not BAD... just worse than the original." They always put a couple extra instruments in that fuck up the tone a little. Had to switch after Operation Mi'hen.

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The Struggle for Freedom became my new personal favorite while I was doing a franchise crawl the past 3 years. Something about it just makes the fight with The Undying truly feel like the culmination of 300+ hours of autistically completionist gameplay even if it's not a challenging fight at the end of such a playthrough.

Agreed. FFVIII has the greatest video game OST. Sadly the combat and story are pretty mediocre.

>>3956837
One Winged Angel isn't even the best battle theme in FF7.

No Battle with Seymour? For shame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nWHoYXIHeU

>>3960953
That's what happens when something is already perfect but they feel like they need to change it anyway, because they need to justify selling the same game yet again for full price instead of a discount, or they need to give someone work to do to justify their employment.

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>>3963716
It's too bad Seymour absolute does not live up to his own music

>>3956837
Dark messenger is alright, but The Extreme is probably the best final boss theme period.