seems fairly reasonable

>>3958782
/thread

>>3958781
>>3958782
Most of these aren't even RPGs

I am /vrpg/ goer I don't like the dex I'm gonna make vague hyperbolic statements about a 100 rpgs all at once to farm (you)s, this is not at all like reddit karma farming because this is BASED and not CRINGE like the dex

>>3958781
You mad bro? Got a ban?

>>3958781
I just looked at the top row and it's pretty good. I've played all the games in that row except for Jagged Alliance and Witcher 3, and the only game there that I didn't really enjoy is BG2. If I made my own top 10 RPGs list it would be pretty similar to the top row

>>3958782
>>3958784
ah yes, mount and blade: warband, definitely an RPG and infinitely better than dragon age: origins

>>3958781
so post your top RPG list

>>3958806
1. da:o
2. bg3
3. nwn2
4. kotor2
powergap
5. the rest

What exactly makes FO1 three times as good as FO2?

>>3958818
it's older therefore better
trust the plan, rpgcodex elders are in control

>>3958818
>What exactly makes FO1 three times as good as FO2?
KEK what do you mean three times, because there's three games between them??

>>3958825
Just having a bit of fun with my phrasing because they're #2 and #6 but I am legitimately asking why 2 should be better
I've never seen anyone put 1 above 2 in my life

>>3958828
why 1 should be better* herp derp

>>3958818
Why is ultima underworld better than pink hair anime girl

>>3958781
>including UNDERTALE of all things instead of actual rpg maker kino

popularity awards

>>3958844
>rpg maker kino
lmao

>>3958846
are we pretending undertale is peak rpg maker? if not my point still stands

>>3958847
>I called this dogshit dogshit, now you can't make fun of me for eating cowshit

>>3958850
there's ton of less dogshit dogshit, so again, my point still stands dumb retard

>>3958855
So you formally retract your post saying that there's RPGM kino? Thanks for conceding

>>3958858
no, i only accept the fact that you have no taste and that i'm talking about pearls and you are the swine, BUT that aside, i accept you concession and i'm glad we both agree that undertale is far from the best rpg maker games out there, yet it appears there because it's extremely popular

aka popularity awards, qed

>>3958804
You're being sarcastic, but everything you said was completely correct.

>>3958868
ask grok to help you with better bait

>>3958830
>why 1 should be better* herp derp
Go replay 1, and then immediately replay 2, and post your thoughts.

>>3958858
>>3958862
Yeah.. I'm just gonna take both of your concessions, thank you very much.

>>3958874
I think I'll just ask your whore mother to suck my cock instead

ah yes the celebrated rpg mount and blade: warband. the thrilling roleplay potential of which copy-paste village do I plunder, and which copy-paste dialogue do I select for the game's 5 different NPC types.

>>3958804
DA:O mechanics suck ass.
Horrible scaling. Misguided MMO-ish inspirations.

>>3958781
Seems like a good list.

>>3958919
This has been debunked

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>>3958785

>>3958781
>popular games are popular
>OP clutches pearls and faints on his chaise longue

>>3958781
>Age of Decadence
>A shitty NWN2 expansion pack that is 90% dialog
>Planescape, the pseudo intellectuals holier-than-thou wannabe game
>Div:OS Modern comedy slop
>Grimoire LOL
>Trails in the Sky (Cuz they love dominant lolis)
>Tyranny: ultimate story fag game

I expect nothing less from a site whose spiritual leader is a kissless virgin who went bald at 30 and couldn't get laid in America so he went to Asia to fuck desperate brown whores.

>>3958781
There is no final fantasy or dragon quest so this reeks of contrarianism. I don't get why people like that are so afraid of liking something even if it's popular. Its pathetic.

>>3959073
They have a separate list for JRPGs (the list in the OP is also an old one, the recent list is only 70

>>3959096
There is a jrpg in the picture though

>>3959103
Huh, it's weird. Anyway here's their JRPG list

https://rpgcodex.net/gallery/17685.jpg

>>3958952
No idea who that is but he sounds fucking based

>>3959111
>first game is the ''lol rape'' JRPG
shameless posers with shit taste

>>3958818
Fallout 2 has a lot more content and a few quality of life improvements but also comes with a massive dose of retardation in the writing.

>>3959111
>Terranigma that high
I mean, it's a damn good game, but hell no it isn't a good JRPG. It's not even a JRPG to begin with.

>>3958809
There are better ways to deal with your illiteracy than seethe about not fully voice acted games, anon.

>>3958781
It's really hard to make a top 100 RPG list because most RPGs are bad. It's a genre with a lot of potential that very rarely reaches that potential. There's a very good reason that most of the most beloved RPGs are the ones which hybridise with other genres and therefore dodge the pitfalls of boring gameplay and mucho texto.

>>3959111
i swear this looks like a random order

>>3959111
>porn game
>only BoF is that shitty Dragon Quarter

where's the real list?

>>3961159
I feel like this is a huge part of why the Codex community feels so off. It consists of people who try hard to come of as elitists, but for a genre of things that's mostly more potential than it is actually great, so they're obsessed with something that largely isn't that satisfying and are looking for something that fulfills their fantasies of the amazing game that actually lets them roleplay freely and have any decision they make affect the world in truly meaningful and fully realized ways, while being frustrated that this barely happens and isn't what they really wanted when it sort of does.

So they play into this identity of elitism, but it mostly feels put on because they're generally not playing things that are truly great or challenging and you can tell they're not fulfilled by most of what they do have and are chasing some ideal that will likely never exist.

>>3961200
Basically you disagree with them.

>>3958781
All that western slop christ

>>3961195
I've never met a single person who enjoyed dragon quarter it's inherently shit as a stand alone game and extremely insulting as a boe game

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>>3958809
You couldn't pay me to play that gay slop zoomie.

>>3958781
Divinity 2, Tyranny, Kingmaker, Mass effect, and Witcher 3 should get booted off for quality. Star Control 2 while great isn't a rpg.

Slot in Rogue, Brigand: Oaxaca, Prelude to Darkness, Colony ship, CDDA, and Weird West.

>>3958804
>dragon age: origins
Dragon age is bg3 without anything good.
The loot is boring, the dnd substitutes for classes and systems are boring, the fodder encounters suck, the story is typical kotor ripoff that bioware has been repeating for a decade, I can go on.
>>3961200
Holy reddit.
>>3958809
Bg 3 and nw2 in any list is embarrassing.
>>3958952
Pissing on grimoire exposes the weak.

>>3961200
>elitism.
I genuinely can't imagine how Non-elitism list would like like if that's an elitist one. It'll be skyrim on the first place, bg3 on second and that's it?..

The only good thing from the codex are the femboy user pictures.

>>3958781
>all these indie rehashes of old games
Spiritually dead uncs who are restrained by their friends before they drunk call their ex wife again

>>3958781
>this thread
Why aren't more anons shitting on OP for posting stuff from that site?

>>3959869
Why would I waste time reading some shitty RPG when I can read an actual novel?

>>3961329
Yooo he phyre

>>3961452
I imagine most people who would (rightly) care enough to bother either filtered the thread or had it autofiltered.

>>3958781
>Making a thread about RPG Codex
Yes, this is embarassing, anon.

Instead of focusing on this, why don't we try to solve the mystery of which RPG Codex users are just sockpuppet accounts for their mods. I'm pretty sure Roguey and Fedora Master are the same person. I haven't figured out Infinitron's secret identity yet.

>>3961382
There's only one such user, the soundcloud rapper who works at McDonald's.
>>3958818
It's tonally consistent.

>>3958781
When you post a top 100 list you have to specify the methodology used to generate the list. Is it fan voting? How do fans vote do they pick 100 games themselves? Is it based on what people think the best game is or is it their favorite game? Define the parameters before I even begin to form an opinion.

>>3962404
>the best game is or is it their favorite game?
There's not a lot of difference. Unless you're some fake hipster who picks Fallout even though you don't actually like playing it.

ITT: codexers (yes incl. me)

>>3962543
Is the forum that slow that you need to come here as well?

>>3958781
This place is literally just the dumping ground of RPG Codex GODS (like me) & /v/ermin who come here to get educated and/or humiliated by us.

The Codex is & should be the aspiration of all of you lowly /v/ermin.

>>3962553
Not her, but obviously I can post of RPG Codex from the toilet as easily as I can here, with Blue Clover TM.

And on The Codex we have to be high brow adult intellectuals.

>>3962564
>Not her
Hmm codex allows girls. A place of degeneracy, it's gotta be.

>>3962563
Go outside or back to RPGCodex nigger

>>3962534
>There's not a lot of difference.
There is a lot of difference unless you are completely incapable of self reflection and acknowledging your biases. Many of my favorite games I wouldnt consider the best of the genre due to nostalgia and personal preference.

>>3962563
Why do newfags call themselves gods all the time? All of you are so uncreative. It's like one tripfag across tens of thousands of IPs.

>>3958781
didn't read.
which ones had native tensei?

>>3961521
>actual novel?
visual novels.

>>3962967
>self reflection and acknowledging your biases
Things human beings are good at, especially online nerds.

It would be better to drop pretenses.

>>3958781
pretty good list

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>>3958781
Top 100 is always pointless because you know half are classics, quarter modern 10s and then you maybe get something interesting left. Their YEARLY awards are more interesting if you ask me.

>GOTY
1 - Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon
2 - Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
3 - Look Outside
4 - Cyber Knights: Flashpoint
5 - Swordhaven: Iron Conspiracy

>PC Port/Remake/Remaster
1 - The Temple of Elemental Evil
2 - Avernum 4: Greed and Glory
3 - Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles

>DLC/Expansion
1 - Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - Lex Imperialis
2 - Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition - Doom of Icewind Dale
3 - Wandering Sword - Secrets of the Eastern Sea

>>3963159
>bloodlines 2 at the very bottom
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qQHHAXt3XtsYNX8wwtlaC6fuiiNObGqSgZeK1eKLnRY/edit?gid=219627135#gid=219627135

sasuga

>>3958781
A lot of these are good though

Make your own top 100 if you're so great

>>3963159
problem with their voting system is they replaced "tyranny of the majority" with few high ranking scores supplanting them instead. by all accounts kcd2 should be in the top 5.

>>3963194
>by all accounts kcd2 should be in the top 5.

Why? Cuz the devs are chuds?

>>3963242
>chud
no, they are being blasted by "chuds"

>>3963242
Did you look at the graph?

>>3962994
I for one love it when NPCs (usually kids and/or newfags) come at me with accusations like this. I only started posting on 4chan regularly 15 years ago so I keep thinking I'm just a "middle aged" 4chan poster. But statistically, I am very likely in the top 3% of oldest posters in every thread I post in, across all boards I frequent. Both in terms of my own age (only 34 years old) and in terms of how long I've been posting on 4chan.

>Your next post : some cope about how you've been here since 2001[sic] ACKshu--
Don't care, /v/ermin.
>B-but you use [words]
I remember when "based" was introduced to 4chan and the kids back then also tried to pull "if you say based then X". I have updated my lingo whenever it was appropriate to trigger as many NPCs as possible.

Remember, /v/ermin. You are all just ants who exist to entertain me. This ain't a two way street. I am *God*.

>>3963257
>2016+ buzzword spam + rhetoric
lol

>>3963257
lol kek, you sound like a drumpfer

>>3961159
>because most RPGs are bad
Even beloved classics are often botched unfinished jank. RPGs are right behind space sims when it comes to aimless scope creep holding the whole genre back.

>>3963311
Entire thing about genre enthusiasts is they're able to overlook problems if there's that SOMETHING that makes the game interesting or stand out.

>>3963257
You stick out like a sore thumb dude, you have a very recognizable posting style even though you rotate through three or four “personas” that you use. I can immediately think of multiple threads you’ve had total meltdowns and embarrassed yourself in, and looks like this will be +1. You’re felted, bitch.

>>3963327
Translation: I live in this librul jeetroon's head rent free because I FELTED him every single time he tried to start shit.

I trigger you just by unleashing my aura, so you outed yourself as a subhuman shitskin once again. You will never be a Codexer (the most prestigious title possible in the RPG field - even if you made an account you'd be just a crossie wannabe lil cuck), you will never be White, you will never be a woman. And you want to be all three.

I am the *GOD* of RPGs, an early 2000s member of the Codex (with the prestigious Arcane & [Patron] title), the oldest poster ITT, and the best & the wisest poster on /vrpg/ - and the last part is not me bragging, that's just me stating facts. It would be like bragging that I am the tallest & smartest in a sand pit full of retarded brown childs [sic].

>>3958804
I'm a huge shill for the DA:O and even its expansions, but M&B: Warband is literally an RPG and a better game.

>>3963327
I love that some guy lives so rent free in your head that you think you recognize him on /v/. I really hope that its actually me and that guy just caught a stray.

>>3963394
>>3963409
>samefagging

why do they wank Avellone so much?

>>3963257
>(only 34 years old)
you are not as old as old /vr/ posters. and you're probably a tourist who never lurked anyway....

>>3963413
There's no better feeling on this website than being accused of samefagging when you're not. You're truly mindbroken.

>>3963257
>>3963285
aw it's samefagging but it came here after 2016 so it can only repeat the same handful of character combinations :c

i want to wife Lilura or Dragon Lady

>>3963442
>so it can only repeat the same handful of character combinations
“Jeet”
“Troon”
“GOD”
“Felted”
Like a Markov chain post generator

>>3963442
>>3963760
So true my fellow transes

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>>3958781
>Darksouls
>RPG
mein neger, single episode of Sesame street has more depth to it than this shit

>>3964066
>complaining about DS when shit like TES, Mass Effect and KoTOR are on the list

>>3964081
yeah actual RPGs
Darkturd is action game that larps as an RPG

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>>3964137
>RPG fan when he sees the bare minimum of a functioning combat system

>>3964137
thats the same bullshit "logic" trolls use to say that Dark Souls isn't a JRPG

Love how its the same games on every single list ever and people feign a guffaw as if any different list was possible

I don’t want to make a new thread and this the closest to my question.
>bg 1&2
>icewind dale
>neverwinter nights 1&2
>siege of dragonspear
Which are considered the good ones?

>>3964499
Certainly not Beamdog's fanfic.

>>3964499
BG 2

>>3964499
>Which are considered the good ones?
All of them except Dragonspear, though for different reasons.

>>3964369
correct, not 4 dudes in a row

>>3964673
gank squads say otherwise

>>3964499
icewind dale is the only halfway decent game yhere, and that's a 5/10 at best. iwd2 gets to a 7/10.

>>3964081
all of those are more character-driven than dark souls, dark souls is 100% predicated on player skill.

>>3964950
>dark sludge
>skill
lmao

>>3964960
yes? i don't see why you seem to be deriving some kind of value judgement on my part, from my objectively true and neutral observation.

>>3964950
>100% predicated on player skill
>>3964967
>my objectively true and neutral observation.
Take your (you) my good sir xD

>>3958781
>westoid grimdark slop
yea i'm good

>>3961200
That's true but everyone will just mock your observation because it also describe 4channers.

>>3961343
>good constructive posts are reddit
cringe hivemind mentality

>>3964950
Mass Effect is mountain dew and doritos driven movie for lobotomized Xbox kids where both character building and combat are braindead and shallow.
KotOR is fanservise driven Star Wars theme park with inconsequential mechanics stuck between BG's opaqueness of its system and ME's casualization for console babies.
TES is jank-driven porn games engine without a single properly functioning system, no matter what kind of value you squeeze out of it, you'll be doing it through larping and modding.
DS features great degree of interaction between character building and action combat with both being very functional and never cannibalizing each other, allowing you to both solve encounters with appropriate gear choices and power through fight on sheer consistency of your dodgerolls.

>>3965254
>BG's opaqueness of its system
Stopped reading here

>>3965270
and ME's casualization for console babies.
TES is jank-driven porn games engine without a single properly functioning system, no matter what kind of value you squeeze out of it, you'll be doing it through larping and modding.
DS features great degree of interaction between character building and action combat with both being very functional and never cannibalizing each other, allowing you to both solve encounters with appropriate gear choices and power through fight on sheer consistency of your dodgerolls.

There's the rest of the post for you, you're welcome

>>3958782
Yeah, if someone played any half of that list of games they'd be very literate in RPGs.

>>3958781
Looks like just a bunch of WRPG trash. And then why do they have Dark Souls II and Dark Souls III but not Dark Souls I or Demon's Souls?

>>3965502
Dark Souls 1 is in the top row

>>3965509
Oh, fuck, you're right. I was looking for the OG cover. That makes more sense than II and III being on there without the first, but I still think it's just a bunch of western slop.

>>3958844
>>3959073
>>3961299
>>3965008
>>3965502
Not a single good game was ever created in Asia. Ching chongs are incapable of writing and designing gameplay

>>3965573
Wrong.

>>3965573
I mean you got slop like Undertale from the west too, so it's not really a win from your side, bud.

>>3965502
thank god you niggas self-contain in jrpgs and eroge threads

>>3965598
And thank god you stay in your Undertale threads.

>>3965592
do u see Undertale on that list? Thats the strawman only jarpig slop eater would come up with to make his shitty games look better by comparison

>>3965604
Still doesn't change the fact that it's a westoid game. A westoid inspired by jarpigs.

>>3965604
>do u see Undertale on that list?

bottom right, just below Deus Ex

>>3965254
>character building and combat are braindead and shallow.
>however dark sou-
Don't even try that shit lol

>>3964949
Horrible taste

>>3965573
trvke

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>>3958781
That's outdated list

>>3965660
It keeps getting worse somehow.

>>3965612
Disingenuous and melanated contrarian faggot.
I played through the whole Mass Effect trilogy on autopilot without putting a single thought into its mechanics (except switching from space wizard to gun dude when importing character ME2 so won't cuck myself out of using fun guns).
It is literally impossible to treat Dark Souls this way because you see immediate and tangible impacts you your character building choices in DS.

>>3965690
>It is literally impossible to treat Dark Souls this way
Lol

>ME2 so won't cuck myself out of using fun guns
Yes the gun restriction was a design decision I disagreed with. I get the reasoning behind it, but the third game had a better solution.

>>3965660
Divinity Original Sin 2 deserves to be on the list, its actually a RPG unlike stuff like JA2, Diablo2 or Battle Brothers

>>3965660
>Troubleshooter but no Reverse Collapse
Girls Frontline Line sisters....

>>3965660
Brigand: oaxaca finally getting recognition it deserves

what about metroid Castlevania and megaman, they are quite like dark souls

>>3965660
Says who? I don't accept votes from post 2015 posters as legitimate. Vermin pretending to be part of the Codex

>>3958804
Dragon age origins is a ya novel writing tier single player mmo (boring as fuck skinnerbox)
warband clears easily

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this thread got me thinking we should start doing a /vrpg/ top 100 list of rpg games every year like how /lit/ does one for books.

>>3966050
Make Thread. I'll be adding Mongol

>>3966050
pointless
It will get botted and shitposted instantly

GOTY 2023
1 - Jagged Alliance 3
2 - Baldur's Gate 3
3 - Colony Ship: A Post-Earth Role Playing Game

GOTY 2024
1 - SKALD: Against the Black Priory
2 - Drova - Forsaken Kin
3 - Felvidek
4 - Path of Achra
5 - Caves of Qud

GOTY 2025
1 - Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon
2 - Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
3 - Look Outside
4 - Cyber Knights: Flashpoint
5 - Swordhaven: Iron Conspiracy

>>3966054
Mongoldev here. You're based fren.

>>3966050
what is the /vrpg/ equivalent to infinite jest?

>>3958809
your average normalfag when you ask them what RPGs they play

>>3966050
>doing a /vrpg/ top 100 list of rpg
Idk what's the point

Seeing what games people actually have the most playtime in would be interesting, but unfortunately impossible.

>>3963257
stfu, gregz, you stupid faggot.

>>3966050
I'm down for whatever, but let's at least separate JRPGs and W/CRPGs if this happens.

>>3966059
You know your list is sad when one of your GOTYs is called fucking Foreskin

>>3966905
BG3 lost to Jagged Alliance 3
Expedition 33 lost to Tainted Grail
Cope

>>3966909
I don't give a shit in case my not mentioning any of those didn't give it away.

>>3966909
>BG3 lost to Jagged Alliance 3
I hate BG3 and think it’s an overrated mediocre game plagued by poor decisions during its development.
That said, the guy running the site fortified the election by rigging it such that different votes were counted with different weights, in order to ensure that BG3 lost, out of a petty grievance, and not from the choice of the voters. That’s a totally dishonest and pathetic thing to do. JA3 barely even counts as an RPG, and it’s completely obvious to anyone that BG3 was the bigger, more popular, and more influential RPG of the year.

>>3961343
Why is his post reddit?

>>3966050
No, because half the users here are annoying, retarded faggots, and in this day and age those sorts of threads tend to attract those people in concentration (much like this thread), thereby ensuring the list will be shit, which is undoubtedly why the RPGCodex one is so dubious, because people with taste and intellect would most certainly rather either actually play the games or discuss them, yep yep.