>>3986492
It was only villainous in the nineties when healthcare wasn't quite as enragingly expensive in that country, and medical technology was basically just aspirin and penicillin anyway. These days, even Americans have a much more objective understanding of the socio-economic dynamics involved and they're starting to understand that it's just not fucking ok for your right to exist to be contingent upon anything. Let alone your personal wealth while you're an indentured serf under capitalism. So the story definitely falls a bit flat with modern audiences.

Healthcare and agriculture are the reasons the world is shit now.

>>3986492
I mean, they're only doing it as a way to weaken their host countries to pave way for an invasion. It's not like they'll keep the free healthcare after the space demons conquer everything and enslave the population so they can conquer other planets.

>>3986492
It's funny because the game literally correctly predicted the effect of gibsmedats
>evil cult introduces free shit
>suddenly, Enroth, a 95% White, 5% East Asian continent is overrun with literal unirionic actual genuine jeets who harass passersby and try to do the needful with peasant women.

Evil cult in our word? Same character count (three letter word for an individual worshipper) but starts with a J (or Y if you want to be fancy).

>>3986503
Don't forget telecommunications.

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He plays everyone like a fiddle

>>3986492

Objectively, The Nameless One from Planescape: Torment.

>you can play the whole game as a goody two shoes, your previous lives also tried to be good
>but no matter what, you are going to hell because the evil you committed is so grave that even thousands of lives of doing good can redeem your sinful soul
The crime? Adahn said something antisemitic.

>>3986711
>Adahn
Fake fan.

>>3986492
>Realistically, how do you respond to this without sounding mad?
i read that Franken Fran manga chapter before.

but anyway Le Guardian, from Ulitma 7 to 9.
>creates le Fellowship cult that acts like social services.
>lobbies Lord British for legal status.
>slowly brainwashes people away from le old virtues.
>ackually murders people and steal their crap to summon red face not-commie superbad isekai demigod.

>>3986503
no, the world is shit because of cluster Bs existing
everything else is downstream of that

>>3986714
>https://www.wiki.ultimacodex.com/wiki/Fellowship
>le fellowship. probably not a parody of christdom and communism combined.

> On the first glance, they seem to be a harmless philosophical movement, trying to make the lives of the people better by giving them something to believe in and increasing their material and spiritual wealth. With the Triad of Inner Strength, they already had attracted many people by the time of the Avatar's return. However, the observant critic will soon see that they are run more like a murky, criminal cult.

>The Fellowship is actually an instrument under the rule of the Guardian, with the higher-ups as his agents. His sinister two-fold purpose for this religious movement are these:
> 1.Weaken Britannia's social structure, gaining a greater power base with each passing day.(muh socialism!!!)
> 2.Grabbing the power in Britannia when he enters it through the Black Gate, during an astronomical alignment. (hail xenu! and tom cruise!)

>>3986503
>agriculture are the reasons the world is shit now.
i bet you think beef steaks grow from supermarkets and organic vegans. >>>/ck/

>>3986712
Joke's on you, chud, I knowingly used the fake name TNO commonly uses next to the word antisemitism because likewise it is commonly invoked by fake Semites (the descendants of Caucasian Khazarian merchant tribes).

Shalom!

>>3986716
Nope.
Agriculture and healthcare create more of any problem you can name. Take you pet "cluster Bs", well the total number of them is a function of the total population which is a function of the advances of agriculture and health care. In addition, the total population gives functional anonymity and a pathway for people to not have to worry their communal reputation since there's always another sucker.
You have to think more clearly, instead of reactively and moralistically where your instinct is to find things that let you blame people and feel superior. Also, beware pathologizing too easily in an environment none of us evolved for.

>>3986731
>the fake name TNO commonly uses
You mean 'your' TNO uses, because you're most comfortable playing a pathetic little liar.

>>3986741
'My' TNO is quirky wholesome heckin chungus, 'your' TNO is pure evil that damned all other players' chungi TNOs to hell.

>>3986743
Barmy, eh?
Poor sod rattling his bone-box like sodding berk.

>>3986503
That's such a stupid fucking infantile thing to say. You're frustrated because you bombed your history exam and so the whole world sucks and should be destroyed and everyone should live in the stone age, boo fucking hoo. You didn't get any upvotes on your shitpost in r/funnymemes and now modernity bad return to monke or what the fuck ever.
Fucking kill yourself. Seriously. Or at the very least don't be such an insufferable little hypocritical shit in public. Get off your fucking phone and go plant your own fucking farm, and don't let anyone find out that you were vaccinated against dozens of diseases while you were a baby which is why you're still unfortunately fucking alive in the first fucking place to post something so fucking stupid.
Stick a pike in the ground and jump on it ass first from a third floor window.

>>3986746
I'm not using a phone and I'm not advocating primitivism.
Horror is just a function of interacting systems.
See, the reason you see clarity as hypocrisy is because you are absolutely terrified of looking upstream and understanding how things function, you have to make it a moral problem of life=good and more life=more good.

>>3986753
>jUsT A fUnCtiOn oF iNtErAcTiNg sYstEmS~!
Yeah, you're so fucking smart, we're all just so fucking impressed, waow. Your word salad babble with words you think are impressive because they're multi-syllabic is so fucking impressive! We're impressed! WOW!!! I'm so impressed! You're so fucking smart!!!!

>>3986754
Calm down. Breathe.

Ok, can I get a quick rundown on why >>3986503 is so insulting to Indian people like >>3986724 and >>3986746 ? Like I don't even get why he said healthcare and agriculture, but it's even more mysterious how the Indian folx are taking it as an insult aimed at them personally. Is this some Pakistan vs India thing?

>>3986759
Many people have a pet solution and an pet enemy to sell you on why the world is fucked in this or that way or even why it's fine as is and we need to keep on pushing the edge. They really don't like a return to basics, that all problems are a function of success. That problems are the victory prize of success.

>>3986756
Got called out on your bullshit you've been spreading in multiple threads all over this place, as usual. And now you're doing the same thing you've done there when you got called out: you wilt and whimper and pretend it's all just maymays and le funnay jokes. What a jape! What a jest! Such fun! Ohhhhh tee hee, you didn't actually sincerely say something fucking stupid, t'was a clever ruse most cunning! Oh such hilarity.
No one could possibly want to just fucking talk about games here. You're not in the fucking way with your shit at all. No no, please do go on. We're desperate to hear another funny joke from you specifically. Your punchlines are superb. Your anecdotes most amusing! Please, please, please tell use another.

What's with the fucking rise in the number of pseuds on this board lately

>>3986870
Board is dying and clearnet is turning into iot and subscription

>>3986870
>What's with the fucking rise in the number of pseuds on this board lately
It’s just one or two guys but he does the same gimmick in every thread. More volume of posting than number of posters.

>>3986818
I didn't say anything stupid, it's not a joke. It's simply an incomplete thought, a leading statement.
You don't even get what I'm saying at all, how could you, which does make your response a joke.
>>3986870
We got tired of pretending to be dumb in order to hide how dumb we are in fear of judgement. You should follow.
>>3986901
>every thread
Link 5.

>>3986492
<!> TRIGGER WARNING <!>
Spicy opinion:
Jon Irenicus's voice actor, a B-list Jew actor (live action roles I remember: Jew acting teacher from Scream 2, a Jew coroner in Necronomicon, generic Jews in The Omen & In the Mouth of Madness and the inspiration for Irenicus in Time Bandits). His voice acting makes forgettable game characters mildly memorable & turns an incel Eliot Rodger tier S&M cuck elf into one of the most memorable villains in RPGs. IMAGINE if Irenicus had that squeaky elf voice ("Hey pick me chief!") from M&M VII

>>3986939
>incel Eliot Rodger tier S&M cuck elf
This makes no sense, did you even play the game?

>>3986955
Yes. Just because he had sex doesn't mean he's not an incel. Raping dryads also doesn't count.

>>3986960
>Just because he had sex doesn't mean he's not an incel
I'd like to hear more about what an incel is from you. Please go into depth.

>>3986966
If you really want to educate yourself and become better, watch Vaush, he explains this.

>>3986991
I'm interested in your opinion, not this Vaush person you're referring to.

>>3986991
7/10 bait

>>3986955
You just told everyone here that you haven't played the game, anon.

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>>3986914

>>3986966
Sex with soulless clones and raping dryads doesn't mean he wasn't an incel. Intention and motive matters. He was doing all that because the female he was fixated upon rejected him. Ask yourself who those clones were clones of. Remind yourself of what the dryads said when you asked them about it.

>>3987040
this kills the chuds

>>3987040
I'd like to hear more about what an incel is from you. Please go into depth.

Irenicus was the lover of the Elf Queen, they'd already banged many times. His downfall was due to his obsession with power, as he attempts to become godlike with the tree. The clones and dryads were his attempts to feel something of love or passion, anything at all, which turned into a cold hunger for revenge and reclamation. This is the actual story. Does this stuff you guys are spouting come from some Youtube video?

>>3986740
No, youre an idiot
Cluster Bs got the ball rolling in the first place.

>>3987071
And now he’s an incel

>>3987087
Nope.
It's just a pop-psych bogeyman that you kids love. Most people with personality disorders have horrible lives and are products of an alienated and atomized industrial society. Basic epigenetics.
But, treat me as a fool. Actually explain your position.

>>3987091
But he isn't, he places no value on sex and has no particular grudge against women. The Queen wants him back, she cries out and asks for him to remember their love. She hoped he would repent.
You simply didn't follow the story very well, which is kinda sad because it's really basic.

>>3986759
>everything is indian.
i am not indian. i have no idea what made you think anyone here was paki. i eat beef and meat. most indians are vegetarians. you 're full retarded and muh topicality. wanna talk about RPG villians? instead of making shit up? implying you are not a AI bot posting random shit anyways.

>>3986870
mods not doing jobs. bot posters.

btw Meta/ZUCC now owns that meme website that generates bot posters on website that has only bot users. coincidences? i think not!

>>3987092
That's not what epigenetics means at all. At fucking all.

>>3986759
>none of the replies to this post explained the situation, just more Indians screaming

>>3987173
Man, you're kinda sad.

>>3987224
I can explain, see it's like how you think everything is jeets now, basically a bunch of dumb people got on the internet in the early 2000s and this has been accelerating, so when they see something they don't understand, they lash out and call it retarded or pseud or jeet and now AI. It's another expression of nihilism: eternal doubt and cognitive dissonance making people grab onto life rings of meaning to understand their chaotic reality.

>>3987092
typical deflection

Cluster Bs are unfortunately a part of our genepool. They are subhuman predators (on the personal scale) and parasites (on the societal scale). Their cost to our lives far outweighs any potential benefits that foolish people sometimes try to assign to them. They infiltrate and slowly take over any organization (from the smallest scale to the largest) that does not have the "white blood cells" to detect and fend them off, ruin and crash it into the ground, then the ones that survive hop on to the next host like fleas jumping off a dead dog.

We all know of a certain ethnic group that best fits this description, but this disease is present in all other races as well, to varying degrees. I invite every anon to read books or articles about them, psychopaths in particular (real psychopathy is quite different from pop culture psychopathy). I find Robert Hare lays it out very well and gets to the point quickly and without bullshit, but these scientists are too scared for their jobs and reputations to touch on what the presence of these people on earth means for our governments and history.

Ive said enough; I wont waste any more of this thread with a back and forth.

>>3987235
An organism only dominates an ecosystem when it has a substrate to thrive within. Large scale civilization provides a substrate which rewards certain survival strategies. The fact is that you need an enemy to explain to yourself how evil is derived from good.

>>3986492
most DEVIOUS, hmm....

belhifet in IWD1 was a sneaky evil bastard
sarevok in BG1 as well

yeah, if were specifying RPGs, those are probably the best that I can think of. Belhifet is a demon (a demon lord?) who orchestrates the events of the entire game even though you only learn about him about halfway through, and you find out that your biggest ally wasnt actually. Sarevok orchestrates a transnational conspiracy via numerous organized criminal groups and assassins and nonhuman monsters, and has balls of steel to boot.

>>3987227
>and now AI
AI bot posting has been confirmed and self-confessed. but the most obvious were using 4chan passes.

>>3987227
I see, so you're the jeet in the discussion.

>>3987275
And jeets and retards and pseuds exist too. Knowledge of the totality leads to doubt, which leads to misapplying personal judgement.
In other words, you start seeing what you want to see to explain what you don't understand.
By the way, accept the milieu we are conversing in and stay anonymous.

Damn, one second before my post and proving my point. Fucking delicious.

Post a timestamped pic of your hand.
>He won't 'cause he brown.
Fucking delicious.

Are there evil gods or higher beings with actual sensible motivations or plans and not just
>le kill all
Or
>the more havoc, the more fun

>>3987293
My nickname was Powder growing up. :)
Though you're probably too young to get that reference.

>>3987298
Not her, but this post pretty much proves you're a jeet who is botposting on /vrpg/.

>Some girl asks you to post a pic of your hand.
>"I am Powder-saar :)" [sic]
>Immediately starts fantasizing about underage girls
This is why everyone hates you & your country, Poojeet.

>>3987300
Bit too meta.
What's your Codex username?

>>3987303
>literally the same jeet shitposter who jeetposts all over /vrpg/
Range ban India.

Anons who grew up with the 90s internet mentally project that everyone they interact online with is a white male nerd, because that’s what they are and that’s what everyone else was
It’s painfully obvious that the retards screeching about jeets in every thread are brown zoomers

See what I mean?

What an sad display.

>>3987332
The whole trying to guess what someone's angle is online never interested me. Like, just focus on the post content, all the namecalling and layers of irony are just an implicit concession because they don't have anything of substance to say. Like, look at this kid, he's desperate.

>jeet replying to himself now
What *a* sad display.

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>>3987092
Their inherent egos prevent them from heathily integrating into human society. A real... antisocial disease.

>>3987527
>heathily integrating into human society
So they are human? Notice how pathological definitions serve the needs of society, which is alien to our biology, and not humanity?
Do you yourself feel healthily integrated?

Thought experiment: do you think they would be able operate this way in a tribal setting?

>>3987541
nta, but I do
but only if their numbers were low enough; once they surpass a certain percentage of the population, it falls apart
civilization raises that percentage limit massively, and because civilization is so dangerous to us for various reasons (ability to wipe out life en masse globally, permanently wasting limited resources, etc), they might just get humanity wiped out

>>3987715
Reputation forms in smaller groups. A person would be killed or exiled, which was worse than death to them, if they continually burned bridges and they wouldn't be raised by one set of parents and subject to particular abuses. Additionally, there would be a steady stream of new victims, everyone would grow up knowing each other. It's not about predators, it's about the niche they can occupy and those niches are formed from massive systemic complexity we've formed up to conquer our environment.
Besides, fearing a subset of socially broken humans is blinding yourself to the reality that it's perfectly possible to be a fully functional monster all while following your conscience and doing the "right" thing.

This is really just like blaming the devil, it's a way to feel you understand entropic forces as expressed within systemic complexity. My sincere advice is to hold confusion close and don't seek for answers in a linear fashion. The only "easy" complete answers are so basic as to be unfixable, which is why I stated that healthcare and agriculture are the root of evil. I would add that language and writing are the things that blind us to understanding our reality, because they want to suggest a linear narrative.

>>3987726
>there would be a steady stream
*there wouldn't

>>3986492

Sephiritoth
(chrome autocorrect: Josephine)

No other villain kills the mc's cute gf unironically

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>>3987726
>I would add that language and writing are the things that blind us to understanding our reality, because they want to suggest a linear narrative.
Unironically posting a circa 1979 Robert Anton Wilson meme.
>The only one in New York who didn't react emotionally to Benny Benedict's "One Month to Go" column was Justin Case, an embittered, fortyish man who wrote beautifully
meaningless film criticism. Case had not liked the film of 1984 and never read books, which he regarded as too old-fashioned to be worthy of serious attention.
>"Books were invented by Gutenberg in the fifteenth century and are, like all other inventions five centuries old, hopelessly archaic," Case often said.
>He also liked to categorize books as "linear," "Aristotelian," and, when he was especially rhetorical, "paleolithic"; he justified this last adjective on the grounds that books consisted of *words*, an Old Stone Age invention.

>>3989097
>No other villain kills the mc's cute gf
Zack is not the MC.

>>3989110
No, not from that, thank Bob. More influenced by Marshall McLuhan and systemic feedback loops as expressed by the discipline of cybernetics and countless other things and personal experiences with the difficulty of expressing complex ideas to other people.

>>3989113
Who the frog is "Zach Braff"? I don't remember no Zack in my playthrough.

t. dropped FF VII after the second "Manko Reactor" or whatever exploded, boring ass shit JRPG, Septerra Core mogs it in every way

>>3989944
You done goofed.

>>3989951
It's all right, it's okay, there's something to live for- Jesus told me so!

>>3989944
>>3989954
I don't get it.

>>3989961
not them but
>>3989951
is saying that
>>3989944
made a mistake, because he wrote "Manko" instead of "Mako"

>>3989965
No, I said he goofed because FF7 is a great game and he dropped it.

>>3989965
No, that guy's doing an ironic bit but I don't get the funny.

>>3986939
Insanely auramaxxed post

>>3993913
wow what a dick

>>3986939
Irenicus was jewish? That explains everything.

>>3994115
I'm positive he wasn't a H*rper.

>>3986500
>that it's just not fucking ok for your right to exist to be contingent upon anything
you do not have a right to exist
you physically have to struggle to do so every day
rights are inherent

>>3986492
Non meme answer the main Black Souls 1 villain who creates the entire setting you play in as an endlessly repeating loop and fucks with your memories just to have fun watching you eventually give in to your worse impulses and rape, murder, and steal your way through the game, makes sure any possible ending you get turns to tragedy before the cycle starts again, ensures everyone who loves you is going to die, and for good measure dangles a fake "true ending" in your way that requires you to betray and kill nearly everyone whose trust you've gained throughout the game.

>>3994278
Please stay in your containment thread.

>>3986492
Are there gods or even higher beings that have a reasonable motivation or is it better to make them do whatever and go with no one can comprehend a god?

>>3994303
Blame the jannies for deleting it.

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>>3986503

>>3994506
He’s not baiting, that’s a genuine belief. I disagree with him and think he’s wrong but I understand his line of argumentation and where he’s coming from.

>>3994507
It's just the truth. Our desire to save as many as possible and spread as far as possible have led to a situation where are imprisoned by efficiency. We try to dig ourselves out of the pit with ideology, but that LARP isn't universal, in fact nothing is universal.
>>3994384
Reason is for limited beings seeking justification and solutions. Gods would only have will.

>>3986503
id say a focus on education is so much worse for our society then those

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>>3986492
>Who are the most devious villains in RPGs?
You, the player.

>>3994708
Compulsory education is a byproduct of the bounty of the consequences from those systems. The Austrian model of education, formed to create better soldiers when Napoleon curb stomped their "elite" military, we use is designed to create compliant citizens who are socialized to be dependent workers. Now the factory model is being changed to a service model, so education is focused more on "friction" management.

>>3994717
>Austrian
*Prussian
fuck

Kiefer Sutherland

heckin Chara from Undertale

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