>>3989035 SaGa games are often in two camps, you raise your stat levels or proficiency skill levels. Check out Romancing SaGa 2 and 3, they're more based on fixed attributes while raising proficiency levels while gaining martial skills mid battle. Very worth looking into if you enjoyed Final Fantasy II since the same man behind it is behind SaGa.
>>3989035 Recommendations are pretty easy if you like FF2, the Game Boy SaGa 1 and 2, 3 is more of a standard RPG, the 3 Romancing SaGa games, and SaGa Frontier 1 and 2. For Romancing SaGa the best version of 1 is the Minstrel Song remake, for 2 it's Revenge of the Seven, and 3 it'd be the 2d remake. For Frontier either the PS versions or the remasters are good.
>>3989499 (me) As a follow up some of the SaGa games, the first two especially, take the levelling up stats based on what's used from FF2, but don't have actual weapon skills. Levelling also works different depending on the race of your party members. The first two games are pretty unique in a lot of ways, so you'd probably want to skim over a guide or something just to familiarize yourself with how it works.
>>3989032 Wizardry games, Wiz8 is the best entry point. You can level skills by investing point on levelup, but it's much better to train them through repetition. However, you can't just train every skill like in TES - your associated attributes (each skill has 2) must be high enough to trigger levelups consistently, otherwize you'll spend hours squeezing a few points instead of few dozen.
>>3989783 Not OP but i have been thinking of playing wizardry 6,7 and 8 back to back. I have never played wizardry should i play the games backwards? As in start with 8
>>3989032 I really dislike this mechanic when if you can just spam it repeatedly without any precautions. There should be a brick wall and something unique to make it different in the way. Example, I hated the way it was done in the Saga games, FF2, FFTA1/2, FFIX
>>3989790 WIz8 is a good litmus test, it will tell you if you will like other wiz games or not. Don't worry about spoilers, Wiz8 is good as a standalone game, all the necessary info will be told if you ask enough. After finishing it, going through the whole trilogy will let you get some awesome stuff, give closure to one of the main characters and let you experience events briefly described in 8 first-hand.
>>3990077 >Why not from 6 to 8? Cause 6 is a bad game with a moronic fanbase that will eat you alive for using automap. Worst starting point. Except 4, of course.
>>3989441 Every Rune Factory game has had that kind of system. RF1 had only 11 skills, but it was there. I mean whatever will we do without our precious walking, love magic or resist greater seal skills?