>>2361431
23k vs 12k 24h peak btw

>>2361431
It’s almost like single player is a lot more than AI quality. 4 has way fewer missions to play and the quality of them is only above the absolute bottom tier of AoE2 campaigns.
2 is just a better single player experience

AoE4 has atrocious AI no matter what. I have no idea what you are talking about.

>>2361431
A good thing about 2 is that it runs on a potato. 4 could've been twice as popular if they optimized it a little.

>>2361594
4 looks like mobile chink dogshit and runs like RTX enabled AAA slop

>>2361594
fr fr aom retold and aoe3 look better

i just prefer how aoe2 looks
i guess i'm one of those boomers because homm3 also looks better than any of the later entries or olden era to me too

>>2361961
2D often looks better than 3D in top down/isometric view for these kind of games

>>2361431
>2
>mediocre AI
It's literally the best AI of any RTS ever.
It doesn't cheat, provides a real challenge at the highest levels while also providing an adequate challenge for casuals.

>>2362046
dunno about that unc. seem just like every other ai in rts

aoe4 for sure looks bad and soulles but i will say it: asymmetry is the secret sauce. thats what tickles my autism. oh my science bless relic for ditching the mechanically identical civs

>>2361961
AoE3 looks like ass, but that's the least of it's problems. It's just not a fun game since all units look the fucking same.

AoE2 and AoE4 are good, don't care about AoM.

>>2362040
Which is funny because both aoe2 and homm3 use prerendered 3d models

>>2362091
desu homm3 units mostly look like ass compared to homm2

>>2362134
You have got to stop smoking crack cocaine.

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got that itch to play something bronze age themed, and I’ve heard this game might actually be worth giving another shot. in my case it’d be a first shot, since I completely missed it when it came out. I’m thinking about trying it out so what are the honest pros and cons?

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>>2362166
nah

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>>2362046
Annoys me that whenever someone has a gripe with RTS AI some cockslurper will inevitably go
>every AI cheats bro it would be too easy if it didn't just lrn how 2 exploit it
AoE2:DE is proof that you can make good AI if you just dedicate time to it. But most devs are lazy and will just give them essentially infinite resources.
I'm playing CoH2 and trying to save up for one tank while the AI is shitting out literally dozens of them, no concern for resources or population caps, it's a pure battle of attrition.

>>2361431
imo the thing that makes vs AI gameplay more enjoyable in AOE2 instead of AOE4 is the scenario settings. Being able to limit the age and population make all the difference. No idea why they removed these always present features in AOE4.

>>2361431
what are the best missions and scenarios in ao2de?

>>2363125
Genghis Khan and El Cid are the best classic ones imo, you should start there

>>2362267
What about this MS-Paint tier image is supposed to make it better than 3's? The only thing 2 has going for it is the music, everything else is way below 3.

>>2363182
well ive just finished the bukhara one with the persians....what a dogshit scenario. endless fucking hunnic spam, got tired after an hour and used me handy how do i turn this on command. i feel like most missions are dogshit in this game

>>2363335
>The only thing 2 has going for it is the music
i remember putting the homm2 cd in my cd player and the ost would play as music tracks. the sorceress town theme is kino

I prefer 4 but 2 has way more content , it's only natural.

>>2365082
I prefer 2 because 4 filtered me.

>>2361594
>A good thing about 2 is that it runs on a potato
That's why 2 is more popular. Brown developing worlders can't run 4 on their toaster PCs. >>2361474

>>2365133
let's see your specs

>>2362183
for bronze age theme play dominions 6 in the early age instead, thank me later

>>2361431
>le ai
lmao

aoe4 for was fun for 1v1 ranked. too bad its bloated and impossible to balance now. i cant speak for aoe2 on this but ranked seems painfully boring since most civs are basically the same.

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>>2366635
Yes, the most important part of an RTS.

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>>2366635
It's the difference between having a game people can get in to 10 years down the line, and being an unapproachable nightmare no one wants to try because it'll take 100 hours of getting slapped around to learn how to play.
If a game has shit AI, new players end up picking up bad habits that rely mostly on exploiting the AI, and end up getting completely shitstomped when they play multiplayer, because everyone else has years of experience playing actual people.
Same thing happened to arena shooters.
Your AI should be an introduction to the game, and should reflect how someone who knows the game would play at different levels.
It doesn't have to be a perfect representation, but should be "good enough" that someone who can beat normal AI could easily start picking up multiplayer matches on an entry level.
Also gives experienced players something to do when they DON'T want to be meta-cheesing other compfags or want to run a game with friends at different skill levels.

>>2363335
The one on the left has better proportions that look less derpy. Even having a properly defined pelvis bone.