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EU5 FAGS
THIS IS YOUR GAME

>>2369065
Hoi4GODS won

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Shouldn't it be the other way around?

>>2369078
no because conquering Italy means you go back to worshipping jupiter, wearing a toga, and demanding varus give back your legions who all wear lorica segmentata armor

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>>2369065
I like fun THOUGH.

>>2369026
The worst part is I would actually put up with the broken systems (broken trade is the worst) if the performance was fixed. I have a 4050 and i7 and I'm not sure what they've fucked up but there's a huge performance drop with the shit looking 3d terrain enabled

>>2369026
why would you steal my post from the last thread and then make an OP out of it?

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>>2369103
>Return to the game 6 months later
>Game runs worse than at release
How? How is this even possible?

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oh shit anglicanism actually fucking fired, this is the first time ive seen it without needing to do it via console
>its shit for me though because now i dont get tithes from england

>>2369143
what are the requirements for it to spawn?

>>2369146
King of England must be a certain age and have no sons during like a 20 year time period iirc

>>2369143
Let me guess, Mamaluks are still buffed as fuck in your picrel. I haven't seen a single timelapse where the Ottomans beat them

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>>2369159
mods fix all the alt history bullshit paradox refuses to. ottomans get a special CB with -99% warscore cost vs mamluks during their crisis event.
>b-b-b-but railroads bad!

>>2369165
This is still a pretty shit screenshot from a historical perspective so it's bad that it's still ten times better than any vanilla timelapse.

does israel exist in eu5? if not it's definitely an antisemitic hate crime

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>its a france and catholic ottomans team up against the pope episode
this is gonna be exhausting

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Which way do i go from this? Planning to annex Thrungia and the Gold mine province soon.

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Why is the culture system like this? How do i even manage to assimilate them later?

>>2369143
They will convert back after the king is dead. Anglicanism is just worse version of lutheranism since it doesn’t add preachers converting your population for free

>>2369065
>imperator gods mechanic in a game set 1800 years later
3k players by june

I would like to play MP with some fellow based retards but it would need to be modded to get rid of a lot of the gay shit vanilla has. Is anyone down?

>>2369186
You can stack cabinets on the change culture provincial action. But vanilla conversion is super high anyways

kotol give me MANA!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff2JSmRDLAc

>>2369209
I might be interested, for MP does only the host need the mods?

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I don't have a heir?

>>2369065
What the fuck. Never reinstalling this again no matter how many "fixes" they make. What an absolute joke.

>>2369247
Fuck man I haven't thought about that old ass video for quite a while.

>>2369141
paraslop magic, mughfugger.
fucking hell, pdx went from my favourite dev around early/mid EU4 to being more mocked than the Toddler and his bethesdas. imagine that.

>>2369165
>every game will look exactly the same
ew no thanks

>>2369304
They do that in vanilla

>>2369065
Wasn't the "It's a simulation, not a boardgame" the only defense people had of this game.

This game becomes so fucking tedious if you try to power through it even mildly. War is tedious because the AI will spam hundreds of forts, peacing out is tedious because you release 50 vassals after a single coalition war, through an interface that starts slowing down when there are too many potential releasable, and peace is tedious because every month you need to send another diplomat enforce culture/religion. You can't even choose to play inefficiently by stockpiling 20 of them to do it every 2 years, you're limited to 5 or so.
Oh and every other month you get 2 or 3 tiny colonial charter that completes, and you pick another 2 or 3 more right next to it, and it doesn't matters, but you can only start so many at once because colonial cost is exponential (because...just because, ok?). Same for exploration, except at least exploration areas englobe 2-5 colonization areas at once, so it's a bit less (instead you get event spam about dogs and river boats and explorers fucking local girls).
It's just so much tedious busywork for no actual benefit. You could make colonial charters 10x bigger and it would change nothing. You could allow 25 max diplomats instead of 5 and it would change nothing.

>>2369318
THIS!!!!!
they NEED to add mission trees that let me instantly annex half the map and a paint tool mode to instantly colonize the entire world as ulm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>if you have 0 regular armies it counts all of your potential levies as "regulars" for great power and military hegemony status

Khmer Empire with 0 (zero) standing army is military hegemony and number one great power because it counts them as having 250,000 regulars

On the plus side it seems some nations are actually building regulars now.. 1633 and vij has 120,000 professional troops, France has 60,000

>>2369257
I think so? I can just box ally mods and upload them anyways if it's an issue, not worried about it
I got into a rabbit hole of Eu5 MO and those retards seem to be having fun. I think with 10+ people playing euro majors it alleviates the AI being dog shit

Is it good yet?

Remove cardinal doesn't work. It says "the designated location will lose the cardinal seat", but in reality the only effect this interaction has is -15% clerical satisfaction
How much did Paradox make from selling this unfinished piece of horse shit?

>>2369321
My hungary had 120 professionals and 500k levies in 1750~ with about 1 fort per province.
I killed 600k of their troops and barely had 8% battle warscore. Got kicked out of the war because uncontested wargoal.

>>2369320
You're a retard

>>2369320
That's already in the game, read the files

is there a way to turn off dynamic province naming? My vassal have a location in the "landsberg" province, bavaria has locations in the "munchen" provinces, but if I didn't bother with checking the fucking map mode I had 0 indications they were the same province.

Let’s not pretend like the game isn’t what paradox wanted it to be. All this shit had to go through testers and had to be approved by Johan. He saw all of this and gave his ok for release. We can spitball ideas all day every day, but it will not change the fact that paradox will not do a thing to somehow change the game’s formula

>>2369369
The core of the game is fine. It's just not fun and probably needs at least 5 DLC to have enough stuff to keep you engaged

Ai doesn't vote for anything in union/council of Trent/other shit
Is it normal behavior for vanilla? Cause I use mods and can't be assed to check without them

>>2369369
>testers
you mean the youtubers and twitch streamers?

>>2369026
I miss waifu universalis

They unironically did not ape MEIOU hard enough

>>2369026
How many DLCs until this shit is playable

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Where do you improve cultural opinion now? Did they remove the option of doing that for prestige?
Previously you could click the masks to do that, but the UI changed a bit and I don't see an option to do that anymore.

Anons, please tell me there's a mod that forces the AI to take antagonism in consideration during peace deals.
My retarded ally just vassalized half northern Italy.

>>2369413
You need to be the head of your culture and then have 50 favor on the head of culture you're trying to improve.
If you're playing the knights you should conquer cyprus and culture switch to poitevin.
Then you either ally byz and increase favors to improve cultures or kill byz and create a subjet that will be majority greek and head of culture.

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>>2369026
>nothing ever happens: the game

>>2369424
>>2369304
mental retardation

>>2369423
Improving cultural opinion is honestly just ass, the cooldown is way too long and, it lowers assimilation, you're better of spamming OPM's and just have them genocide their cultures.

>>2369428
multiculturalism seems to be the intended playstyle on the spiritualist side of the slider, while mass assimilation is better if you pick the humanist side

Forcing primary culture on a vassal should be locked behind a midgame tech (but forcing court language should be available at all times) and the capacity cost of new vassals should be very high, but go up slower the larger they are, and there should be a more active way to improve cultural opinion (ex. a cabinet action)
I just fixed EU5

>>2369429
I find it baffling how the the "tolerant" value side is the side that lets you culturally assimilate easier, and not like increase culture cap, since the idea should be that you are more accepting of religion and differences, then again the clergy as an estate is just very contradictory in how they're built, they provide research buffs at high equilibrium, but then in their event and agenda's they're opposed to research and lower progress in various ways.

>>2369428
It's 50 years if you do it on your own subject but you can meta game around it by getting 100 favor with your vassal, releasing it and improving twice to kindred.

>>2369437
If the culture is that small that you can get away with catch release, you're way better off just killing the culture via subject assimilation.

>>2369438
For small one yes definitely but in my knight playthrough you had the entire levantine culture group that was owned by the mamluk so it was worth doing.
Same thing if you're the ottomans or want to blob all over the balkans and anatolia.

>>2369435
historically, tolerance does cause more "assimilation"
Assuming that assimilation is an actual thing that actually happens

>>2369478
If you actually bother to read events the stuff that provides "assimilation" reads more like the standard cultural genocide, not so much as the inclusive assimilation that makes locals seek to adapt cultural norms.

>>2369423
I might be blind, but where do you change your primary culture? I can only find the option to add accepted cultures in the cultures tab

>>2369485
It should be the same tab. You fully accept a culture and then you can switch for 50 stab and 50 legitimacy.

>>2369485
Same as accepting the culture, you just click on the accepted culture

>>2369425
Total sandboxnigger death

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE OTTOMANS HAVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL!!!!!!!!!! THEY HAVE TO BE SPACE MARINES!!!!! MUH HECKIN GROSSPRUSSIANIUMS!!!!!!!! MUH BIG BLUE BLOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GIVE ME FREE CORESSSSSSSSSSS
this is your brain on eu4

one key problem in 5 is that no country ever feels like a threat
france and the ottomans usually felt like a real threat in 4, and when they didn't, some other middle power took their place

Alright so what the fuck is up with my rulers constantly dying for seemingly no reason? The reason for death isn't even written anywhere, all of a sudden my rulers and heirs die, usually within 2-3 years of starting to rule the country or entering the line of succession. Even when I enter a regency the regent dies for no reason within a few years. In my last campaign from 1350-1650 I had like over a hundred deaths and spent the whole game in fucking regencies. The fuck is this shit?

>>2369556
And I really want to stress just how fucking PISSED OFF I am that my horde run started with my fucking ruler dying day1 to an indefinite regency forcing me to 9% crown power 40 horde unity, complete economic collapse and an utterly unavoidable civil war. All over a fucking meme bug.

How the fuck do you change a markets language?????

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I'm sorry for ever doubting you, railroadchads.
I unironically prefer the game this way.

>>2369576
big horde
lol

>>2369550
>Having objectives that give you a meaningful reward in a video game is... le bad!!!

sunnis are OP for tech research
cathos can't compete

>>2369576
A game where the same thing always happens is functionally the same as a game where nothing ever happens.

>>2369582
>meaningful reward
satisfaction at accomplishing something is all the reward you need unless you're some tiktok dopamine addicted child that needs big flashing lights telling him he's a heckin big chungus blurple blob and the bestest ever with the biggest army and cores all over the world

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>>2369568
>heres your strong independent feminist-communist kurdish regent goy
Wow thank you Johan, I think a new terror attack is going to occur in Stockholm soon.

>>2369587
snowflake lmao

>>2369584
> +5.00% Monthly Research Progress %
Cool ome extra tech every 20 techs.
At the same time I can just constantly steal 5 tech mana every with simple espionage

>>2369586
>it's so immersive spamming OPM vassals that culture convert and get annxed without a fuzz, fighting an AI that's so braindead it'll ram all their units into you whilst sieging, all while seeing a green line up to infinity towards nothing as you click spam buildings
There is zero challenge in this game outside of keeping yourself awake.

>>2369591
so your solution to there being no challenge is to give yourself a magic button that makes you even more OP and gives you free bonuses for accomplishing nothing?
do you work for the hoi4 team?

>>2369592
The people advocating for railroading wants to see the AI get the land to help create an actual rival, blobbing is easy as hell in this game, the game's system is about as gamey as EU4, so I don't understand why you're strawmanning that nudging the AI to help grow is somehow dumbing the game down.

>>2369593
railroading doesn't fix the game, it just makes it even more boring because you know exactly what's going to happen every time you play.

>>2369594
Bitch China sits uncontested as number 1 in every fucking session in EU5, nobody does anything, 4 at least had a toss up between France, Castile or Ottomans as the leading power, although 4's AI is also somewhat passive, there's at least nations that grow over the course of the game.

>>2369595
Okay
Railroading still doesn't fix anything, it just moves the problem around slightly.
The game is still boring as fuck because (as I've said multiple times) nothing ever changes. You're just reading a book that says "and then castile cast a magic spell to instantly annex Aragon" or "the turkish sultan pressed the button that made his soldiers randomly gigachads that are stronger than everyone else for 100 years"
it's shit and doesn't fix the game at all.

>>2369586
I think eu5 is far worse than eu4 when it comes to filling you with dopamine all the time.

In eu4 half the actions you did could be replaced with a very simple algorithm. In eu5 it is more like 90%
Stuff like placing buildings and choosing techs

>>2369597
Fuck off eu4tranny

>hyper scaling industrial economy
>also hyper scaling costs of everything
It feels like you never make any progress
It's time to retire, Johan

>>2369586
You're right, it's much more satisfying to just sit and watch a simulation play itself. Johan should just remove all the remaining buttons that do anything, any interaction is boardgamey and for children

>>2369629
I accept your concession

>>2369633
Hmm? Oh, are you giving up already? Finally done saying that video games shouldn't be games? That's kind of pathetic, you know. I expected a little more.

>>2369638
see
>>2369633

>>2369602
>In eu4 half the actions you did could be replaced with a very simple algorithm. In eu5 it is more like 90%
because the half of your actions in eu4 are army movement because that's the only time you'd doing anything except waiting for your mana to fill to cast obtain caravels and waiting for truces to expire so you can actually play the game again

>>2369597
game idea: eu5, but the rulers are actually wizards

>>2369647
just rename 'cabinet member' to 'court wizard'

Cores are the biggest design flaw of eu5
They are much better than integrated so you have to become an ethnostate
To become an ethnostate you need court wizards to cast assimilation
To bypass the wizards guild restrictions on court wizards per country you have to use vassals
There is no alternative

>>2369655
Remove the ability to force your culture on vassals and suddenly you actually have to interact with the cultural relations mechanic but the small vassal meta is still the meta because >control

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>>2369576
>Big horde

>>2369657
i mean think about it dude it sounds like it was translated from chinese back to english

>>2369576
What mod is this?

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Do i wanna just Integrate Mittelmark or do i wanna make it a Fiefdom? Will they rebel if i just use integration for them?

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this is what 21k ducats of rgo building looks like

>>2369585
I'd rather have the same things happening in all games rather than the stale mess we currently have.
I'm sick of big kiev and no turk beyliks ever prevailing over the others.

>>2369550
There has to be a big bad threat for the player beyond just your shitty neighbourghs and France. Otherwise you conquer all of Europe by 1600 and stop playing

>>2369575
Majority of burgers at market center location have to have a different language
Usually you are better off deleting market center and assimilating until at least 51% of burgers in your desired location are of your culture. The other way I found is assimilating peasants and making more jobs for burgers so that peasants of your culture promote and eventually overtake burgers of other culture. But you have to have to make a LOT of jobs for burgers and it's pretty unefficient

>>2369585
That has to do, until there is a viable alternative

>>2369595
I love to switch to ai nations mid game to see what's going on. China seems to be stuck in it's unique disaster that has marginal consequences. Ai is absolutely braindead and there is no time limit for this disaster so it can't resolve it.
And, since you can't have two disasters at once, China is stuck with it and can't get more disastrous(lol) disasters that can really shake it and give way to someone else.
I once made a super Manchu, gave they modifiers so they surely win against china and forced them to go to war. They occupied whole chinese mainland and peaced out for war reps. Didn't take a single province despite having warring states reform. So the fatness and cost of locations in China is also to be considered, since AI is either suicidal, getting 9999 ae with everyone or is too scared to take a single province in this game

Something weird happens circa the age of absolutism. In 1550 I got 80 vassals and their liberty desire from collective strength relative to me starts spiraling out of control, so I consolidate and annex 30 or 40 of them. In 1650 I go on a conquest binge and spike to 200 vassals, and their liberty desire from collective strength is...0. My regular army has become huge, sure, but it's like, idk, the calculation assign a value to regular that explodes with age of absolutism units?

>>2369728
It also looks at your economic base and you're probably much bigger

>>2369642
That's not a positive comparison eu5. Have a lot more meaningless decisions isn't good.

>>2369594
You already know what is going to happen every single vanilla game, precisely nothing. The "it's the same every time" is already in the game.

I do not understand how normal people tolerate having to completely reset and redo their whole tech queue every time they unlock a new institution. I'm a sperg and I can barely stomach it.

>>2369758
>I'm a sperg
There's your problem.

>>2369594
>one location minor with no alliances declares on bohemia
>Coalition of small states with grand army of 354 german peasants declare of France
>Castille kills other christian Iberian states, andalus is still alive
>Naples kills the Papal States. If the player guarantees the Pope, Papal States kill the Naples. Tunis conquers half of Sicily and Sardinia. Christian kingdoms do nothing about it
>Kiev
> Golden horde assimilates half of steppes into mongolian, explodes into snakes of different culture states that aren't even hordes
>France conquers south England. Holding locations in the island that was impossible to invade since William I
>China colonizes Siberia, because it
>Africa becomes majority white by 1600s
>Mesoamerica and Incan kingdoms are never conquered
I can continue, but I hope you get my point.

>>2369758
It's prime paradox incompetence that they didn't include shift and ctrl to put techs behind or in front of the current queue or something but at the same time there's no benefit in queuing techs so just don't do huge queues and stop being a sperg.

>>2369764
>Africa becomes majority white by 1600s
That's a good thing tho.

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>>2369663
The usual

>>2369768
I see you liked the modlist I posted last thread. Absolutely based, total sandboxxie death

>>2369767
You only hate negroes because of policies of white colonial nations practicing slavery and economic colonialism, resulting in influx of negro population in americas and horrible condition for negroes in africa, while doing nothing to help them assimilate, only passing racist laws to make their integration in white society impossible, creating separate black sub-societies that are even harder to integrate

>>2369771
Or it could be that blacks are anathema to civilization.

>>2369770
I already had a similar preset with a few of those, but I felt I was missing something.
Your modlist was a big inspiration, I finally got the job done :)

>>2369771
Actually, I hate them for not achieving anything for thousands of years except larping as egyptians and berbers and omanis. Their createst feat is the sale of their own people as cattle to the long-term ruination of everyone else. Literally everything would stay the same or be changed for the better better if they hadn't existed at all.

>>2369766
I prefer it to opening the tech three every few months.
I'll just take a break and wait till johan fixes this

>>2369778
You can think how this would happen. Maybe they never had a huge state that borrowed almost all technological achievements from ancient states in near east, creating a single cultural and religious identity with network of markets exchanging goods and ideas. Maybe being so far from the cradle of civilization and not having any contact with it and being surrounded by savannah and jungles hindered their progress, being generally isolated and all. Maybe a hundred other reasons.
Or you can just blame it on them being inherently inferior. But I already know which one you will choose

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Not even the Less aggressive AI mod is enough to prevent shit like this.
Why would the AI think this is winnable?

>>2369785
Only bohemia has units why wouldn't it be? Presumably you can kill Bohomia solo, Austria can kill teutons solo and rest will just feed warscore

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>can't upgrade my crusader knights to reformed crusader knights for some reason
>"huh that's weird, maybe it's a bug"
>google it
>find a bug report on their forum for that exact issue
>they've confirmed it back in november
over 4 fucking months on something that should be the easiest fix possible, what are those fucks doing?

>>2369785
I am playing Austia rn and there is usually a war every year where some minor tag in hre declares on a free city so I am forced to defend them. I am not even doing anything, usually free city has enough levies to solo the war
Also, why the fuck am I forbidden from joining defensive wars of HRE members if I have a truce with attacker? I peace out French war in low counties just for french to declare on Savoy and easily gobble them and I can do fuckall?
>>2369787
Hellenism mechanics;) (they will be broken btw, like better half of features that will be introduced in the dlc)

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>>2369786
They somehow got a marriage union with France of all nations, and dragged the in the war as well lmao.
I had to console command out of this because I can't afford to have the emperor spit roasted before the Hussite wars.

>>2369788
>Hellenism mechanics
Correct for me, but the bug report was actually about the Teutons (same unit, but still), so that excuse doesn't even work here

>>2369790
I think I somehow managed to update them by moving crusader knights to a location with order commandery. But it was a Castille campaign and I am not even sure if it actually happened

>>2369792
Weird, but you're right, I get the option when I specifically stand of a province with an Order Stronghold. Thanks for the tip

>>2369793
That's cause they can only be built on those

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>painstakingly grind my way to have ALL 331 italian locations to make event fire, hoping its gonna rename my country or something neat
>it's just a nothingburger reform that does fuck all
I atleast wanted a new flag....

Knowing what we know about Johan, how likely is he to ever allow unlocking cheevos while you are using mods like imp and vic3 already does

>>2369803
>foreign powers can no longer control the college of cardinals
doesn't that mean you've got a permanent pope wihout the risk of any other country being elected? I haven't played the papal states yet, but sounds nice

>>2369805
On his own? 0, he's that autistic. But he might get forced to if reddit complains enough.

>>2369806
It's been like that since EU3 at least.

I didn't play since 1.0.4 and decided to see what is the state of the game. The AI is still brain dead, the economy is shit (infinite trade loops in mid late game), colonization is shit, there are still unresolved bugs from November... And they are working on magic god buffs? The absolute state.... I want to play a fresh gsg so bad but this is unbeatable.

>full naval gets to get 2 naval governors
>lands gets nothing
anger

>>2369823
Yeah, even if you;re mostly land based it might be better to go naval as long as you;ve got some coastline to slap the governors at.

>>2369824
I really wanted to do a persia run but I'd have to cheese with 2 naval gov to spread enough control around the region.
You only get 3 local governors through the entire but that's not enough since the terrain is so ass.

>>2369825 (me)
Or maybe I should somehow culture flip to tibetan for the -50% prox speed malus on plateaus and mountains...
Also some of you probably don't know but naval govs are stupid to cheese. Create a vassal to encircle the city you want to built the gov in so it becomes disconnected from your capital via sea, build it then annex. There's no check from the game to see if it's still valid after.

>>2369826
Wait, fr? I remember in my byz campaign I've built naval governor in Antioch and then annexed Cilicia that was the only thing separating my mainland from syria and it destroyed the governor after a month tick

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>Can't form an empire because I am not a great power
>half of asia is girlbossing and gatekeeping great power status
It's tiresome. I just wanted one (1) local governor...

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/eu4-sees-higher-24h-peak-than-eu5.1914404/
Even normies noticed.

>>2369756
>>2369764
>"yeah!!! we should change the game so that the script is slightly different but it's still exactly the same every game!!!
>I love hoi4 so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
kill yourself

>>2369843
solid arguments, sandboxtroon.

have any good mods released yet?

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So what kinda army composition do i go for my standing army? I build 3x Men at Arms, what do i wanan build now? How many cannons do i wanna build or cavalry?

>>2369843
I am waiting for your proposals on how to improve the game

>>2369850
3xMaximum width cavalry units. Then put artillery in the rear

>>2369850
20 heavy cavalry, put formation on cavalry on the flanks, levies for the center. Artillery on the rear, they do marginal damage and battles isn't their mission anyway

>>2369828
Oh yeah you're right. Just checked. It's trivial to cut your empire in chunks anyway with vassals with a snake of shitty locations.

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>emperor ally forced me to white peace a war I was effortlessly winning
Yeah I think I'm dropping this game.

>>2369843
>but it's still exactly the same every game!!!
But the game *is* exactly the same every game already. Except instead of being a sligthly historical game, it's a completely ahistorical one.
If it takes railroading, MT, world-wide cores and permanent modifiers to achieve a game where sometimes, the ottomans are a threat to Austria, where Spain forms without gobbling up Portugal, where you don't have papal colonies in africa and where Russia and the UK forms, then so be it. Currently, it's an historical simulation that somehow NEVER ressemble history.

>>2369830
They need to have regional requirements for being an empire and remove it from great power.

>>2369830
just go beat them up, retard

>>2369861
Well duh, ally or not, the emperor does not want internal wars.

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Is there a way to combine my Markets?

>>2369879
Destroy one

>>2369883
So if i destroy the Tarnov it will get fully absorb in to Tsarigrad?

johan...

>>2369886
won

>>2369876
At least give me a warning, or at least a way to reject the emperor's demand, instead straight up cucking me out of my own wars.

>>2369889
where

I'm in massive coalition war that's turning badly against us, I cant peace out of it. If the enemy rolls across all my lands how fucked am I? They've got a show superiority CB on us, so can I expect to simply be humiliated and pay tribute with most of my lands intact? Pretty new to the game and this is the first big playthough.
Wish you could signal to AI armies to join you, I've got 10k troops, all has 15k nearby and enemy is seiging a Fort with 20k. Instead of joining up with me they previously sent 30k troops on a one way trip though the middle of the HRE and got ground down.

>>2369893
his in house MP game that's been going since before 1.0 launched

>>2369885
Some will, others go to the other markets

>>2369894
There is a button in war screen to see peace deal ai proposes.

>>2369895
I can't understand why that retard refuses to playtest the game in single player games.

>>2369904
I can only assume his mindset is "more people in the game means more bugs can be found for different nations!"

>>2369903
It doesn't show anything, I'm a junior partner in a union and it says I cant sue for peace

>>2369911
Did you change to offer tribute on the screen? Default peace deal shows demand there is a tab on the top to change to offer

>get CB to annex novgorod
>vassalize them instead
>will take 400 years to annex them

erm, maybe stealing their land every few years will be quicker

>>2369932
disloyal vassal cb is pretty nice

>>2369932
You can just seize one location per province, make a new vassal, and transfer the rest of the province to them, that's how I get rid of big vassals that I released for their cores

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Is it better to have several markets or only one?
If anybody know any videos that go in-depth in the trade mechanics I'm interested. I struggle even to check what good are missing from my market.

>>2369949
More markets = more market access = more demand and production of goods = more gooder.
If you have low market access areas with cities that have been developed or you wish to develop, prerably with some proximity too then you want markets there. However if the areas with currently low market access aren't making any advanced goods then it's better that they belong to a bigger market since RGO production happens regardless.
The downside of more markets is that you need to dedicate more resources into inter market trading and most importantly it makes the UI a nightmare to navigate.

>>2369949
A lot of small markets are better; up to the point they can't self-sustain most of it's basic needs.
The smaller the market, the higher the market access of provinces in it, the more you can extract value.

Kyiv

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>>2369954
don't say that!

>>2369914
Yeah I did its all greyed out

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Intended game's target audience btw.

Orthodogs can't divorce?
>lose coinflip 4 times
>historic dynasty lost
not too fond of these half baked ck3 mechanics

What logic does ai uses when to push for a peace deal? Most of the time it takes full occupation of the enemy for them to even consider peace, and even then it takes fully wiping out enemy forces and couple months for it to realize it can't push more warscore

>>2369989
Probably if it hasn't gained warscore in certain amount of time or if it gets to 100% or hits one of the backstops of having too much warexhaustion or what ever.

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So do i wanna cap all Marketplaces for Towns or Cities or is there an limit how many i should have them?

>>2369992
When you can't make more good trades that's when you stop

>>2369978
It's based on historically precedence, Orthodox essentially said if you're on you're forth marriage God has told you that you aren't meant marry, so don't, I also don't understand why you'd waste influence on divorce when consorts do nothing.

>>2369972
He's not wrong.
Just go play EU4 if that's what you want.

>>2370017
half of the player base already did
thanks for your input Johan

>>2370019
That's a good thing, the people that want EU4 can go play it and the people that want EU5 don't have to listen to toddlers crying for space marines and mission trees

>>2370002
I know that dynasties came and went, but it's still annoying how little you can do about it.
And here's another annoying thing I discovered:
>start a siege
>vassal with 100 men joins and snipes the leadership if the siege
>all art goes to vassal
I assume sieges are meritocratic and you can always manually take leadership, but its just another thing you need to keep eye for if you want to loot art.

>>2370020
you're not playing EU5, you're playing a glorified Vicky 3
enjoy playing with sliders and creaming your pants as you watch the line go up in the middle ages

>>2370030
More like a half baked combination of vicky cicky and eucky

>>2370030
Sliders are kino and a retvrn to tradition
EU3 > EU4

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VGH..... the orthodox kingdom of the grikos in sicily.. what might have been...

>>2370039
lold

People that think the low player count doesn't matter crack me up.
Who are parakikes supposed to sell dlcs to if barely anyone plays this game?
You just know shareholders and the higher ups are shitting their pants.

>>2370047
Eh, they already milked people with deluxe edition for at least a year. They can just shit out low effort dlc, but by the next year they should lock in to bring in new people for chapter 2, or whatever it's called for euv

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...
I think something is wrong with the swiss confederation organization.

>>2370020
But eu5 has space marines and nothing historical ever pans out, so it's just eu4 with more steps. Mods fix alot of it but the AI is still hot dogshit

any total conversion mods yet?

>>2370039
vgh......... if only........

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i hate byzzieboos who claim they were still roman so much
the main argument they have is that it was still roman because there was no definitive minute of a definitive day they became the empire of the greeks instead of the empire of the romans
but you don't get this shit with any other empire
when did the british empire fall? when the american economy eclipsed them? when they lost india? when they lost africa? when they lost hong kong? does it still exist because of the pitcairn islands? no, of course it doesn't

the fact is that by 750 you had a situation where the "roman empire"
>didn't hold rome
>official language was greek
>religion was conducted in greek
>exerted no real control outside of the immediate greek speaking area
this isn't just about the language switch, but the fact 90%+ of their territory was greek speaking, it's practically a 1:1 correlation, there could be no other scenario where a linguistic map and a political map were identical yet we had to pretend they weren't synonymous for the sensibilities of "well akshully" professors, most of them either greek themselves (reddit's beloved anthony kaldellis) or retarded women who saw the fact anne komnene was allowed to write her fanfiction of her father as "empowerment"

and their next argument is that if you won't call the empire of the greeks "roman" you must think the >h>r>e was the real rome, how does that logic follow? just because byzantium slowly transformed into a greek empire doesn't mean the pope crowning a german makes them roman
byzantium is a ship of theseus, the hre is a different ship altogether

i'm not using the name the basedfacing redditors demand i call them, they were GREEKS, i am not going through the farce of calling them "Ῥωμαῖοι", "romans", in fucking greek
and you may say "b-but they were epic", yeah, they did some pretty cool things culturally, artistically, architecturally, but how does that make them roman? the greeks accomplished these things, like the ancient greeks

>>2370080
but they were epic

>>2370080
not gonna read all that

>>2369879
Why would you want to do that? Place a governor in Tsarigrad instead

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I concluded my Bulgarian Campaign, i learned few fun tricks. I only very later understood how to play with the big Vassals.

So can i spread my dynasty all around Vassal then force them to my culture and religion? I know its lengthy but then on the whole game is like this.
I think making custom Vassal so they stay as County tier is good?

Then stay on your Proximity area to pump Towns and Cities?

>>2370080
happy for you
or I"m sorry that happened

>>2370093
you didn't build the "garden" in your capital right?

wait until he finds out that modern Romans don't usually know Latin either

>>2370080
>the >h>r>e was the real rome
it was

>>2370024
Art is essentially pointless, I don't know why you'd even care.

>>2370100
I did.

>>2370103
NTA but i thought Art was the primary method of getting your cultural influence/tradition up.

>>2370103
Eh, +0.00001 prestige is still plus prestige

>>2370093
>15 gold
you should probably try actually building a few cities and RGOs

>>2370080
There are enough videos on youtube explaining why late romans were romans
Why are you bringing these arguments here they’ve been beaten into a horse mush

>>2370107
You're still locked to a hard cap of culture influence, and you're way better of getting more primary culture pop, getting %Culture influence via Inno Value, Laws, privileges and buildings like Opera houses, but it mostly doesn't matter reaching culture hegemon is a joke because the AI is trash at maximizing influence, assimilate area is nice, but culture influence versus cultural tradition for higher assimilation is capped at 50% so getting more influence above culture heg is just number go up, which should be the maxim for this game.

>>2370111
All I care about is getting +50% speed of integration and assimilation.

>>2370112
Okay? Just get 100 Inno and give Elaborate court life, and that should about do it unless you're a smaller nation and expend a bit.

>>2370114
Small aside here. I fucking hate that high Inno causes it to be absurdly expensive to spend on stab.

>>2370115
It's mostly offset by the lower stab reduction for embracing ideas, also if you're having trouble with your income ignore stab unless it's negative, high is a bonus, not something to prioritize unless your income is stable.

>>2370117
Yeah I know. I was just complaining a tad.

>the pope gets no events for if they conquer byzantium, or dismantle the HRE
>No special CB for if the religious war ends in protestants forcing the HRE all into Lutheranism, just the generic religious war CB
>Can't even upgrade into an empire
>Can't even form any other nation
I'm tired, boss... Literally no reason to unite Italy as the pope. The ONLY benefit of the pope is you get to choose your successor from 3 options, which is incredibly OP, but otherwise why the fuck would you ever wanna be the papacy? Also you get spammed CONSTANTLY with divorce requests

>>2370002
Orthodox countries should probably get force into monastary interaction. Russian czars loved that move to get another wife
Leo the Wise is more of a outlier, being cursed with dying wives and all

>>2370093
>Then stay on your Proximity area to pump Towns and Cities
I am not smart enough to explain this that well but build all burgher buildings with high profit goods in your most high control areas. Build governors in trade centers.
When you build a fin cloth guild outside your high control provinces you will get less of its income and it will bring the profits of silk guilds in your high control provinces down
Same with RGOs but they are more painful to stack.
Have you built bailiffs in your gold and silver provinces?

>>2370093
>>2370093
Why only governor slots? Did you ignore renneisance tech?
Spend less on diplomacy
Increase your leg spending

>>2370093
>>2370142
>>2370143
Never mind
Uninstall gane
Delete it from steam folder
It's an idle clicker. You will learn how to play it and resent yourself
Might as well master candycrush

>>2370147
I'm trans btw

So I'm playing as Castille and I've gotten a CB agains Morocco... Should I even use it? Is it even wise to go to war before the Black Death.

>>2370157
Yes? Wars will never be easier than the start of the game since nobody can afford forts.

Are you going for hellenismos or latrinemus when based Johan releases the DLC? For me its latrines.

>>2370168
for me it's islamismos

Milan early game tips? which to conquer first what money and rgo to focus on?

>>2370176
So ottomans.

>>2370168
I'd imagine shifting Latin would be powerful in the late game when cataphracts aren't a thing anymore. But I've never even seen anyone talk about meta men at arms for the late game since everyone gets bored by 1550.

>>2370196
no, I'm roman

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>120 years to create st peters basilica
>it's a regionally renowned piece of art, not even a unique building or modifier for rome
aw sweet, ten trillion dollars spent for .0000000001 more culture!

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>>2370206
>even the description for it has a fucking typo
Jesus help me, Johan, i hope you die in a fire

is the 1444 mod any good?

>>2370206
Making all historical buildings into artifacts you can loot so you end up with the pyramids in your capital after you siege Egypt seems like a clear case of johans autism

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total and complete berber humiliation

>>2369783
I'll be honest, I was being hyperbolic and I don't actually think that they are inferior in the racist sense. I do know some of why and how it was difficult for sub-saharans to develop civilizations. Whay I hate tho is someone like you reducing everything about them to slavery and colonialism as if that was the one defining event for everyone on a whole continent, especially if you equate the american blacks with literally everyone in subsahara. How about the thousand years of events that happened before any european set foot on subsahara? Why can't we talk about that and have some opinions on that? What about the kongo wars of the post-colonial period? We are allowed have opinions on current wars and events for everyone else, but with subsaharans it's all like
>uhm, I already know what you are trying to say and that's racist due to slavery
Your virtue-signalling thought-policing is literally so patronizing and infantalizing towards the very people you think you are heroically protecting here on this zimbabwe dung-brick dyi house-building forum.

>>2370232
I loved doing this in Imperator. Stacking every treasure in the game in Rome. Having a temple for all four of my deities stacked in my capital province.

>>2369803
>papacy is successful
>this results in catholics caring less about what the pope says
make it make sense

>>2370256
When the pope is a temporal power he will be treated as temporal power (ignored). Stuff like cardinals would obviously lose their meaning if only the one in Rome had any say in anything.

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>have the straight of gibraltar locked down since the war started
>somehow some ships from holland are in the fucking bosphorous
this game makes zero fucking sense. MAKE IT MAKE SENSEEEEEE
also why does it seem like blocking crossings just doesnt work? these niggers in anatolia can just go across willy nilly even when there was no combat happening

What do I have to do to make someone want to sell their location to me? Even when not connected, of different culture and rural, these locations worth to ai more than 5000 ducats

>>2370279
Pay 5000 ducats, it's pretty cheap

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Shame some nations are currently unplayable because how the Food mechanic works. You either play without food or your play with huge debts.

And no he Tributaries don't help anything because they give you like 0.50 a month. While Diplomatic cost to maintain them is like 1.92.

Ethiopia is just a dogshit area to play in general. It's not fun, control is horrible, literally zero way to grow your economy, ten gorillion cultures and no way to accept them all or mitigate any negatives unless you afk for 200 years.
Yemen is the only worthwhile start in that area

>>2369320
this but unironically

Only europe is in a somewhat playable state and has any flavor

>My ally doesnt join my war because borders are -100
>But i have to join my Ally's war even though the enemy is even more far away
Why johan?

>>2370283
No, you do not understand. They do not want to sell, no matter how high the sum is. There is a cap anyway so 5000 and 50000 will have the same weight, and they will refuse anyway

>>2370279
They need to be deep in debts to have any chance of buying

>>2370294
You need to tick the "don't join allies wars" button

Honestly. What do Genoa and Venice do with the over sea provinces? Can you sell them or can you use them for trading or something?

i just realized why morocco has no sailors and johan is funny as fuck

>>2370320
Well why doesn't it?

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>>2370340
I think they have the worst proximity on the game on start date? Not only that They need to pump all the way to 50 to get Naval reform. I seriously think it's funny.

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>>2370346
Patch 1.2 "Steiner" will fix everything

>>2370346
Zimbabwe has 0 control outside their capital because of tribesmen
They used to expand in east Africa in previous versions but now they just sit there doing nothing

>>2370351
>>2370353
>Need 250 sailors for Privateer
>You get only 1-2 sailors a month due to abysmal control issues
>It takes 250 months (20 years!!!!) to get single privateer going
Btw this is the nation that was the scourge of Mediterranean Sea for 1000 years.

>>2370353
>literal who nation of mud hut dwellers can't conquer half a continent in 50 years anymore
how could johan do this to us....

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>>2370358
It wouldn't be bad for subsaharian tags to have different gameplay were control is not an issue, they are constantly warring, they empires collapse every time their kings die and repeat until they run out of pops or Europeans appear

>>2370358
But all of their neighbours are also literal who nations of mud hut dwellers

>>2370346
Sure but they also get tribal horsemen levies which are actual fucking space marines. It's total dogshit when 3000 tribal horsemen can just demolish 10000 European levies

>>2370353
They need to give AI only control buffs at least for the first two ages, the AI is trash at trying to figure out control.

>>2370371
France would just rape everything
They already do, but this way they will go even harder, no lube

>>2370371
>Even AI can't control control
Lmaooo johan

>>2370374
Dynamic modifier based on country size / economy

How do i play economy without automation? I heard the automation fucks up your economy after 100 years.

>>2370363
Is there a single other upside, or viable playstyle for a country which is tribal or has tribal pops? They seem like a placeholder for people who aren't operating with a social pyramid or contributing to the market economy

>>2370387
Scotland has some techs that make them good supposedly. Come to think of it, that was probably the idea behind that guy who made Highlander South Africa

>>2370389
>that guy who made Highlander South Africa
>there can be only one... dindu
qrd?

what are some must have mods (besides glorp)?

>>2370393
Location Specialization QoL (Auto-Expand) - Forked

>>2370390
I don't know I think he just swapped to his colony in Africa. Definitely a neat idea to take advantage of their unique cultural bonuses.

>>2370404
Oh I thought he did something crazy like culture swap to whatever south african culture is down there.

>>2370389
Scottish "tribesmen" seems ridiculous, especially if they have to create special mechanics to make them more functional than in actual tribal states who don't have those mechanics

Cut all taxes and trade income and well as minting to zero. Wait one month. Then the cost of making a new market will drop about 90% as it is scaled to your income. Same with moving the capital.

it's like 1480 something and im struggling to see how i can form russia within the next century. it's a huge pain in the ass getting and integrating land it just takes forever. i have maybe 200 locations of the 534 i need and annex vassals takes decades :( even eating more of the golden horde would take decades to integrate

>>2370371
No they need to finish the fucking game
Half of AI scripts are missing or unfinished, look at them trying to assimilate tribesmen/slaves forever

>>2370428
You don't need to integrate

>>2370434
maybe not to form russia but I do if i dont want useless rebellious land...also if i take too much too quickly the annoying ass coalitions declare war on me every 5 years and it's a slog

>>2370410
Yeah no I'm not cancelling 20 markets and thousands of capacity in trade
>>2370393
I'm the 50 mods guy who's been playing pope recently, some of the mods kinda borked the AI and fucked their ability to properly do economics, so I nixed a few and added others. Gonna play test this new batch today but will be reporting back
The railroading stuff is essential though so Austria, polish Lithuanian commonwealth, Spain, Ottomans and Russia ascend though. Gonna try out a Lutheran sweden run

How do i get in to the Vassals or Fiefs spreading my culture meta?

>>2370441
Just enforce culture on them and they'll start converting the pops.

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>>2370428
make sure vassals you intend to integrate soon are just 1 province to maximize the "we are much larger" bonus
also make sure to crank up your cultural influence (build universities) so you get the full annexation bonus from your influence relative to their tradition
if you stack a lot of the "tolerance of the true faith" modifier through spiritualist value, laws, autocephalous patriarchate, etc, unintegrated orthodox provinces will be a lot less likely to revolt

>>2370435
Just go full ape and conquer enough to form russia. You can release vassals in unintegrated territories after that

Just picked Serbia.
Evens i go for Empire
Singles i just pick Constaniples and stay as Kingdom.

will it ever be possible to truly have trade flow from one node to another like in EU4?
so the goods don't just get absorbed into the next tradenode?
like, have a tradeflow of goods from south east asia all the way into europe around africa with my gay little empire or some other form
it's one of the things i want fixed before i play again

>>2370472
if you're willing to lose money then you can set up permanent trade routes for spices and stuff but its micro management hell

>>2370472
It's possible right now.
Really annoying to do it, but it's possible.

>>2370473
>>2370474
i wish there was a better way to get goods to flow than by hand moving things like that
thanks for the answer anyways.
there should be some kind of "triangle trade" automated mode to extract raw or luxury goods from certain areas
even if you're doing some alt history stuff and getting raw materials out of europe as malacca the other way around

>>2370476
later on in the game you get ridiculous trade range so you can import shit from the new world or asia directly to your home market

How long before this game gets abandoned?

>>2370482
that's nice but it's not really the same as what i'm seeking
i'm talking like, getting access to spices as europe and importing them and selling them to other europeans for big money and such
maybe i'm asking too much

>>2370472
That's in EU5 already

>>2370485
They will do the DLC's, look at the sales figures and then decide if it's worth abandoning yet. I think 3 DLC's minimum and then it's to the shelf if the 2nd and 3rd end up with abysmal sales.

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>faggot retard ally AI gets full occupied by austria in a coalition war
>you cant separate peace even as an independent nation
>he refuses to give up
>so now austria occupied me (also ignored my fleet blocking one straight, but not the other)
ebin. if they take land from me im just restarting. god i hate this fucking game sometimes(often)

>>2370501
Why did you join the coalition if you weren't planning on winning the war?

>>2370499
But then they have nothing to update

>>2370501
>joins coalition war when it's obvious he's going to lose
>calls the AI retarded
lmao

>>2370486
Yes but you need to have big dick trade capacity and probably have to set it all up by hand.
And it only works for something like Pepper where your own market isn't going to be able to absborb all the Supply by itself.

>>2370501
How did you even lose, just go into debt and hire mercs, they can wipe out all of europe
I know that you can't recoup your losses with war reps, but at least you won't be occupied that way

>>2369026
Is EUV still shit?

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>go to build spy network
>immediately get spy defector event
>.01 spy network construction
lol
this is fun!
>>2370510
my loan capacity is 115 gold total.
>>2370506
>>2370508
because the faggot ai who was the target shouldve capitulated a year ago instead of being like oh yeah im fully occupied and the attackers have 3x the last remaining defender's troops, but we can still win! don't excuse this fucking bullshit. i also didn't read the war reason because you get so much event spam anyways, but i need that dumb faggot on my side to fight sweden eventually, so i just accepted without noticing.

>>2370515
to add to this seethe, there is not a single instance in history when a coalition was fought against x nation, where an independent nation joined on the defence, where they stuck it out after the main defender was fully and completely defeated. it's retarded. youre a sovreign nation, why the fuck can't you just say "hey sorry guys, my bad, here's my independent peace terms"?

>>2370515
>because the faggot ai who was the target shouldve capitulated a year ago instead of being like oh yeah im fully occupied and the attackers have 3x the last remaining defender's troops
Sounds like they were right to fight on then, considering you're now fully occupied.

>>2370517
it was a defending against a coalition war. if it was an offensive coalition war i would kinda get it, but not on the defending side. stop making excuses for this dumb as fuck ai