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———NOTABLE UTILITY MODS———
>Player Led Peace Conferences
Effectively mandatory for all playthroughs where scripted peaces aren’t a factor. Puts (you) in total control of the peace proceedings so post-war Europe/Asia looks pretty.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944

>Toolpack
Gives the player a togglable menu to change party popularity, give buildings, transfer states and annex, etc. Great for getting yourself/an AI country out of trouble, or fixing bordergore.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913150560

>Better AI
Swaps the stock AI package for one that is much more aggressive, and gives them in-game stat buffs. Best for people who think base HOI4 is too easy. Not compatible with mods that also change the AI/unit types.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369706283

>Industrial Expansion
Adds 5 new building types to refine steel, aluminum, tungsten, chromium and coal. Adds a new infrastructure type of the same name as the mod, adding building slots the more IE is built.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707538501

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Pic related, too big for 2000 character limit

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And now, the news!
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Aside from TNO increasing the scope of Yippie (again), I got nothing. Slow few weeks.

Cold War mod where Operation Unthinkable happened and Russia/East Germany/Poland/Baltics are a bombed out husk.

>>2411140
>cold war mod
>america undisputed world power

>nsm wins
>deletes their entire army
>builds nothing
>declares war on Canada
>annexed by Trudeau
is there a bug report in the discord or something lmao

>>2411658
They didnt delete their whole army it was probably militia which disappears after the CW.

>>2411658
The only forces that get removed post-ACW are the militias. This happens for everyone. What might've happened is that PTF carried Burt's 8 militias into the end and then Burt won via ligitimaty or some shit at the national conference.

Does any Russian path let you invade the US? Maybe the ultranats?

>>2411140
that's just From Men to Wolves

>>2411807
If the ACW lasts long, NSM wins more often in the conference because they have less buttons that suck PP than PF. PF sinks all their PP into campaigning for brown femboy fascism. Meanwhile based aryanmaxxing Burt saves all his PP to fuck the legitimussy button.

>>2411815
Speaking of, what happened to that mod?

>>2411301
When you put it like that, it's more of an American Napoleonic mod set in the OTL period of the Cold War.

>>2411658
>Patriot Front wins
>They have like 40 divisions
>Eventually declare war on Canada
>Somehow end up at war with the Naval Command too
>Naval Command takes over almost the entire US and Canada takes the rest

>>2411812
Some russia paths enable justify war. No railroaded focuses let you declare, you get the freedom to do it yourself instead.

>>2411844
That is still better than most of my games where Trump/Biden win and then fail to access the post war focuses and rebuild the country.
Biden/USB winning especially sucks because the leader could change and softlock them into irrelevance.

>>2411845
Pity. Wish the ultranats or the soviets had a narrative driven war against the US.

Make your own general faggot

>>2411851
Why though?
After Europe, who gives a shit if the US dislikes Russia? Assuming China hates the US too, what is the US going to do?
Invade the entire rest of the world to reassert dominance that it lost under the collapse of the union and Canada retreating from NATO?
Russia in a 2EUW victory would be more likely to make enemies of an expansionist China, in which case the US would have to make a deal with their devil to beat Russia because either of them would stand no chance against the entirety of Europe (and potentially the remnants of PDTO) alone.
That is, assuming China doesnt head into a civil war over losing to Japan first. And assuming PDTO would align with Russia rather than China and the US.

>>2411865
I don't care. Go make your own general already

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>>2411864
>he's still mad we're not using his February TFRhate thread
Seethe tranny. Real discussion is being had here.
Real TFR PQTRIQTS are in control.

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>>2411868
1. I didn't make the thread.
2. Your seething is not my problem.
Cope.

>>2411872
I'm mad that I can't use a thread I used to like since every time I go here it's "hurr durr how do i have gay sex as pf". Like who the fuck cares kill yourself already you degenerate discord raider.

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>>2411879
Where did I say anything in >>2411865 my post about "gay sex"?

How did you "used to use the thread" if not to talk about HOI4 mods?

?

>>2411865
>Why though?
Red Dawn memes, or payback for the humiliation of the Cold War.

>>2411886
TNO is a hoi4 mod yet it has a separate thread. Go make your own thread and stop raiding

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>>2411892
I understand you have lost control of your emotions and common sense but this thread isnt about you. No one cares.

>>2411891
How does that make sense in the setting of the mod though?
It would just be a world conquest path at that point and that's never challenging just tedious. If a player controls Europe in TFR its basically GG in terms of game balance.

>>2411907
>How does that make sense in the setting of the mod though?
You're right that it doesn't. It was just an 'I wish' thing, or a thought experiment.
I just played World in Conflict and found the concept interesting to see in TFR, is all.

>>2411864
TFR isn’t big enough to warrant having its own general.

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>>2411865
My canon Medvedev
>supportive economically with China and Japan pre the Taiwan war
>neutral during the war
>post Chinese victory begin to supply the Japanese with limited Russian gear to keep that balance of power in check
>after the European War form a steady supply chain of captured NATO gear to the newly formed PDTO
>during the Great Asian War increase this supply to include modern Russian fighters, helicopters and drones
I really like the idea of Medvedev's Russia being very committed to a multi-polar world and this possibly coming back to bite them regarding China turning on them. Being able to sweep Japan, Korea, Taiwan and India into Russia's sphere is also enticing, though a fractured China would not be in Moscow's interest so it becomes a game of chess between CTSO and PDTO.

>>2411925
Cold War type scenario in alt hist happens because there is an imminent threat somewhere in the middle of a fragile peace.
In TFR, when the euro civil war is over it's basically done. It's implied that whoever won, won the world already. At that point the number one economy is usually the winner and that basically means the winner is the leader of the new world order, even regardless of the china war or america.

>>2411943
(not him but) neither is TNO but I digress.

>>2411943
Look at any hoi4 mod thread and compare the ratio between posts about tfr and posts about anything else. The truth is pretty obvious and you lying about it makes me question your intentions

>>2411959
There would be more posts about anything else if anything else actually released.
OWB? Releasing literally what in literally where instead of map expansion.
EaW? The same.
KR/KX? They update but they aren't juicy enough to dedicate much of anything.
KRG? >KRG
Other interesting mods are either demos (Unforeseen Consequences, the Girls' Frontline mod) or toozers (the Spongebob mod)
There's nothing else.

>>2411968
>Other interesting mods are either demos (Unforeseen Consequences, the Girls' Frontline mod) or toozers (the Spongebob mod)
As a huge TFRlover and Mateusz certified TNOhater, I would spam the shit out of this thread with all three of those mods if they were finished.

>>2411968
No there wouldn't because the space is already flooded with raiders from tfr discord and there's no room for other mods and many people already left because of that. If anything important ever gets mentioned it's immediately forgotten and the thread is back to spamming retarded questions about a 2 year old path from tfr. The only way to generate more posts about anything else is to purge the slate from you. Either you can do it manually by making your own tfr general or someone will eventually force to do so once your presence becomes too unbearable for everybody else

>>2412005
>manually
voluntarily I meant

>>2412005
This is true btw
I am paid by mossad to spam about TFR in this thread

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>>2412005
Full truth I am task with FSB to promote anti NATO medias.
No other mod has the sheer volume of finished content coming out that TFR has.

>>2412005
Well, feel free to mention anything you feel is important about mods other than TFR you're playing.
I for one am waiting for KX to load. It started last week, so it won't be long now

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>>2411864
>>2411959
>>2412005
>complains people aren't talking about mods other then tfr
>doesn't post about other mod
How about instead of crying you try to start a discussion about something? If every whinging post was about a mod you find interesting then you might actually get a conversation going. I like Red Dusk but I do not think it is in a good place right now, I believe it lacks a certain je ne sais pas - perhaps because it links itself too closely to our otl whilst also wanting to explore alternate history at the same time. The Soviets invading the ex-Warsaw Pact should really be more important then it currently is, for example. The Asian war they are cooking up seems to be filling this void of tangible changes but it is very early stages and I am somewhat uncertain on if the "Japanese Militarism" mechanic is going to be well done given how odd that would be for 2007. The whole experience also feels very vanilla and, in my opinion, the tech trees could do with a solid slimming down - perhaps limiting tech to 2010. Do you want to engage with any of this or are you going to complain about tfr instead?

>>2412168
>How about instead of crying you try to start a discussion about something?
There's no point since it's already been taken over by raiders from tfr discord and everyone sane already left. You can stop concern trolling. The jig is up already.

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>Want to do another ERX playthrough
>Mod is getting a big update on the 4th of July so I might as well wait
Fugg, someone give me another OWB tag to play instead.

>>2412211
Roach King. Be careful, though, there are bugs.

>>2412211
Did you do a Todd Howitzer playthrough yet?

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>>2411844
>US Naval Command
Speaking of, what would their hypothetical content be? Navy wouldn't be much use for anything other that invading Cascadia or California. Maybe they get to control some naval base in California that forces them into a war with APLA? And then since you wouldn't have much use for a navy, you could sell off ships via decisions for fuck ton of equipment and mercs as manpower. Essentially you would be able to build a small number of very good divisions and a decent stockpile of equipment but with your non existent economy you would not be able to replenish anything but basic infantry equipment.

>>2412253
Well in game they flat out refuse to integrate with any non-Union of Biden/Trumpist winner so they could start there. PF or APLA winning and then not having a navy is really gay.
Second I think the Naval Command randomly selling shit to other tags would just break the balance elsewhere.
Maybe if they had a monetary bidding system for buying ships. Lets say Russia wants to buy a small fleet of corvettes, then they place a bid and if not contested by other euro/pacific tags in 30 days they get it. Rinse and repeat until the ACW is won or they capitulate.
More black market decisions that cost money for mercs available only to the Naval Command would be cool. But they should probably get an alternate path in focuses for an all american army.
To beef up the challenge a little, I don't think they should directly core anything besides California until after the war. Getting a beachhead and entrenching there will be the hard part. Kind of like trying to unify America as Hoover's Liberia or Hawaii in Kaiserredux.

>>2412253
>Pirates
>In the event the mainland feds lose they could serve as a government in exile claiming to be the real United States of America while the non-fed unifier is just a larper and from there they can either fight to retake America or keep what they have but fight to remain autonomous when the non-fed unifier tries to annex them.
There's definitely some things you could do with them. Also maybe a fun separtist route where they join the PDTO and help fight China or maybe even have the option of siding with China and basically being their autonomous navy.

>>2412259
On second thought though, bidding is probably not a good idea because you have a limited number of ships to sell. You also need to use them to maintain a presence. You also need a lot of fuel to use them. Your industry isnt good, so you will be running out of money and you will need to sell the ships to stay afloat and produce mil equipment at full capacity.
Otherwise you will debt spiral. Because you need to use your civs to import fuel.
Maybe you could pull Canada into a temporary faction as well.
They should have focuses to secure fuel from Canada and other powers.
It could be really fun trying to manage the careful balance of the economy until they can pacify the lower 48.

>>2412253
At the start of the civil war they could maybe have a bunch of different paths like trying to secure/scuttle remaining fleets from civil war factions or simply building up an industry.
Ship selling can definetly be a part as well but as the other anon mentioned you need to balance it well.

The US Naval Command could take part in the Taiwan War and Great Asian War on either side. Give them an additional schizo path where they become pirates that either raid the Pacific or take over some coastline in Africa. Piracy is difficult to simulate but maybe it could work. They could threaten shipping routes and extort different countries for money or just straight up raid cargo ships.
Technically they should have infantry divisions anyway because the USMC is part of the Navy so you can justify them getting a few divisions that you can send as volunteers into different wars.

These are just random ideas but there is definetly potential for them though it would take a while to actually implement proper ideas and make them work.

>>2412305
TFR devs already shot down a pirate path suggestion.

If an extremist faction wins the civil war, the naval command should rechristen itself as the old USA, be the Taiwan to their PRC.

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Finally! A TNO world conquest playthrough!

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>>2412313
>TFR devs already shot down a pirate path suggestion.

I know it's a dead mod, but can anyone give ma QRD on Daydream in Black's lore?

I haven't played TFR since it's release. Did they ever unfuck the NSM?

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>>2412364
No. However they do plan on improving the NSM and adding Blood Tribe (Esoteric Nazism) and Traditionalist Worker Party (Strasserist) paths to the tag.

Is asymmetric warfare doctrine actually good for the ACW or still useless?

>>2411943
TNO has its own thread because it's a containment thread. Nearly all discussion is about team drama and other garbage.

>>2412383
It's aiight. NATO is still king though. CSTO remains a total meme that gets you killed in every situation.

>>2412205
>Guy gives good social advise
>Guy gives example of a different mod he likes trying to get a different thing going
>"There's no point you're all raiders from their discord!"
So basically you're just mad that people talk about something you dislike and would rather just censor it and have no interest in the thread beyond just shutting down what you hate and have no intentions of trying to uplift any other mod, got it.

>>2412396
Thanks nigger.

>>2412433
You're talking to a thread troll who has been working 24/7 overtime for well over 6 months to derail genuine thread discussion.
In past threads, he:
>accused everyone who discusses TFR of hating other mods
>pretended people pointing him out are schizo
>deflected the discussion into politics (TFR players are racist-russian-multipolarist-pejorative)
>samefagged
>shapeshifted into someone else when he gets caught
His current thread tactic (that isnt working) is:
>astroturfing the thread to fabricate a legitimate reason to censor discussion
Learn to recognize this faggot because he is the sole reason why this thread gets nigger nuked with 100 off topic posts on a daily basis.
He is TFR's strongest hater, the literal only hater and only anti TFR poster in the thread.

>>2412433
There's a certain tactic in a niche spaces where you could get a group of friends together and join some random circle and make it your own by discussing your in-group stuff which causes everyone else to zone-out because they don't get it and aren't interested in talking with you. I have reasons to believe something similar is happening here but instead of going "yeah we're in control" you try to keep a facade so that other people wouldn't leave and you weren't forced to make your own general. I don't wanna put up with this circus

>>2412453
>having genuine discussion is a conspiracy

>>2412451
>Everyone I don't like is a tno ai poster!
I'm not him but I think he's funny and he's doing God's work by making you angry

>>2412455
You are him though.

>>2412454
>>2412456
The tno ai guy contributes a lot more to this thread than this sub 80 IQ ape who has never had a single thought in his life

>>2412459
>people that point me out are schizo
>people that point me out are dumb

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>"you weren't forced to make your own general"
>"I don't wanna put up with this circus"
continue crying, adding nothing to discussion
You are the TNO aislopper you are also the February failthread baker and the boardwide bumper. It literally doesnt matter who exactly you are because your goal is the same.

You are intentionally ruining the board because you want to get revenge against TFR for your mod's own fans segregating your drama from this thread.
Keep in mind this happened because your "mod" is a toxic-drama-waste-dump-slaughtered-farm-animal that was shot in the back of the head a long time ago and is sadly limping on way past it's expiration date.
The only grand conspiracy happening is everyone laughing at your personal vendetta of failed astroturfing and psyop attempts as your mod continues to circle the drain.

Found a new board for us TFR players to move to

>>>/y/

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Btw seether just a reminder that you lost the race to 600k.

>>2412589
>/v/umblr
No thanks

>>2412359
Unless there's some actual lore doc lying around then this is the best I got.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/DaydreamInBlack General overview
https://youtu.be/afyqwm12gQg british content
https://youtu.be/jqE7RAZPLh0 venice content
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX3Ila_3aVq_1144ZB7tErK2vpDBRHCGu playlist of some superevents, just note that some of these are made by fans

>>2412601
Anon... that's not /v/

>>2412589
Coming from the ultraprogressive TNO team, the TFR blokes should take this as a compliment.

>>2412606
OH FUCK

>>2412589
Is this supposed to be an insult?

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>>2412589
Your beloved discord clique would ban you for using homosexuality as an insult.

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Dark MAGA Trump will finally build the great big beautiful wall using libtard slave labor.
https://youtu.be/sL9cI63AeTs?si=taxNeMxnxTJCDPb9

>>2412671
I want a wall project so fucking bad. Just give me a deccat that plops down forts along the borders and gives me some bonuses for fixing immigration ree.

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It's kind of fascinating how there are no good early Cold War mods, despite it more or less only needing very minor changes to vanilla hoi. Something like 1950 to 1960 would give so much opportunity for alt-hist from Stalinism continuing to the Korean War expanding to the British Empire choosing to fight decolonization and so much more. CWIC having such an expanded scope timeline wise and being so focused on the political side of things really just leaves it dead in the water, that all could have been excused if they removed the railroading such as with Korea and the Suez.

>>2412606
I dunno seems like /v/ to me.

>>2412687
>if they removed the railroading such as with Korea
Haven't played the mod but what do you mean by this, can the Korean war only 'end' with a stalemate where neither side defeats the other like OTL?

>>2412687
we really need those later start dates where only the US and Soviet Union have 2 years of content.

>>2412692
Last time I played which was two or so years ago, both the Korean war and the Suez Crisis can only end as they originally did. You don't so much "play" it as you do experience it.

>>2412696
That's really lame and gay.

>>2412687
CWIC really was killed by its scope and I wish it was 3-4 separate mods instead.

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>9% stability
Dont worry Ted, I will do what you would have wanted.
The Fire will Rise

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>>2410993
>As we get closer and closer to 1.1's completion, I figured it'd be nice if we showed you guys a little treat for whats to come.

>Subid icons for (most) of the 2ACW Tags!

>>2412785
TFR can be shit from time to time, but damn, the GFX team delivers

>>2412769
What preset

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>>2412789
>TFR can be shit from time to time
The only time I thought they ever choked hard was the Alikhanov update's launch, besides that I can't recall them ever letting me down.

>>2412606
>>2412690
/cm/ here, it's even worse at least on snowflakery. Avoid without the extension to hide posts.

>>2412785
was this a booster teaser?

>>2412796
Well, besides the 1.0.8 launch, the pre-facelift France was bare-bones. Shitting on Japan content can be a stretch (as it's still pretty good), but the lack of paths is meh.

Besides those, no complaints. Kino.

>>2412796
>Alikhanov
That was decent if only fine, the real underwhelming one was red dawn.

>>2412794
Modern world but you are a citizen. I decided to start as 14 years old twink, escaping city to go off the grid and eventually I built a youth ecofascist movement.

>>2412804
>pre-facelift France was bare-bones
It was bare-bones even after facelift. I accidentally got into war with UK because I declared on Cyprus too quickly and the game didn't take into account me winning spanish civil war and therefore decisions regarding spain were broken. The 3rd war couldn't trigger properly and when it finally happened I just annexed Germany without a separate peace deal. It was a pretty underwhelming experience and a major embarrasment for whoever did france

>>2412471
notice how he didn't address this.
totally buckbroken.

>>2412785
>Chicano icon
I really wish they had playable content.

>>2412814
France content is weird, some paths are scuffed while others are fine. I did a monarchist France playthrough recently and didn't experience many issues. Also had a unique peace deal after beating Germany in the 3EW.

>>2412814
>>2412824
Supposedly all the Rightist 3EW peacedeals have been fixed?
Though they were really buggy on release, and I don't know if the Leftist ones were fixed.

>>2412821
And he'll be back next thread, perhaps even in this one, and repeat the same lies out of pure asshurt.

>>2412785
>Stirner twice
I know the first one is one of the Cascadian Insurrectionary Anarchist subpaths, but which tag and path is the second one for?

>>2412861
It's right next to the Cascadian white supremacists but I dunno for sure what it'd be.

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>>2412861
>Cascadian Insurrectionary Anarchist
>CIA

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>>2412873
Holy shit...

>>2412861
I'd assume a generic one?

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>when you burn the money (12k dollarinos) through your adventures and Jew immediately condemns you
Really makes you think
Also sorry, the preset is actually, Modern Day: Live Another Life - World in Crisis

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>Trump be like
>"I have my second term ahead of me. I will make America great again!"
>Single middle schooler
>"No, bitch, you dont! The Wild Youth is coming!"

>>2412947
this is so fucking autistic im sorry what

>>2412933
What game is this?

>>2412970
Pax Historia, ai slop game, but it is fun to do when I am not in mood for hoi4

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>>2412785
Anyone know what the PSL one and bottom right ones are?

>>2412970
Pax Historia, it's ALMOST not free so I wouldn't bother with it.
>>2413013
I'm almost sure there are new icons for the APLA
>Octoberists
>Tankie social democrats
>Jacobins
>Anarchists

>TNO finally surpasses 600K subs several weeks after losing the coveted race to 600K
>Will likely be surpassed by OWB within a year
It's practically a dead YouTube channel with legacy subs and zero engagement at this point.

>>2412800
Presumably, glad to see they didn't stop doing them because of the leak.

>>2413018
yeah i just checked the game files and they are indeed new, though they are not on the leaked build
>>2413041
the leaks didn't leak that much aside from that retarded xitter nigger who posted stuff from an earlier thread, its good it didn't impact much though

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>OWB is getting a spiritual successor mod set in Europe called New World Embers
>It's releasing on the 30th
Weird how I can find barely anything about it online, hopefully it ends up being good.

>>2413097
This is the first I hear about it. Love OWB, hope it's good. Please post more if you find anything. Would love to see the map.

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>>2413098
Here's a 2 year old version of the map I found on plebbit obviously very out of date and hopefully more of the map has been filled out. They also posted the opening trees for two commie states, a monarchist one, and a mercenary state.

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>>2413097
I second >>2413098

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GILL (God I Love Loji)

>>2413097
Holy shit that's going to be kino. Fallout universe Europe is essentially completely non-canon so they have total creative freedom to do whatever with it.

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>>2413108 (Me)
I'm just gonna start dumping everything they've posted about the mod on their dead subreddit, just a reminder this is all at least 2 years old.

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>>2413113
I know it's very unoriginal, but I want a Nazi path and a GDR path.

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>>2413114

As the 21st century goes on, games like HOI will increasingly pander to European and, later, American delusions of importance as the real world becomes more and more Asia-dominated.

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>>2413108
>Hooker Tribe
>SAAR Duchy
>Sturmfront

>>2413118
ok TNO chinksect.

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>>2413115

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>>2413121

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>>2413122

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>>2412253
US Naval Command
>Capital: Honolulu
>Ideology: Emergency Council (Authoritarian Democracy)

Starting Territories:
>Hawaii
>Alaska
>Puerto Rico
>Pacific Islands

Economic Tree
>corporate/military partnership branch focused on production and factory density in starting Territories
>Or, Freedom of Navigation Tree: tax trade, every sea region with an active convoy mission earns extra factories, trade leverage, and income

Political Tree
>Electoral path
>junta path
>options for Hawaii and Alaska Independence / union dissolution
>reclamation options for all

Foreign Policy Tree
>PDTO join option for Taiwan war
>West Coast intervention/EADI trade interception mechanic for APLA and RCP
>Carribean intervention options against Cuba, Haiti, Panama, and Venezuela, with possibly these being the aggressors instead
>Thassalocracy path: CBs on any critical waterways like Panama canal, Falklands/Magellan strait, Bering Sea, Strait of Hormuz, Eritrea, Singapore, Diego Garcia, and basically any other island nation

Military Tree
>Naval tree for each doctrine
>marine corp tree
>naval/strategic aviation

Mechanics
>shipping company jurisdiction competition
>refugee routing and interception
>Military vs Democratic BOP
>independence movements

Basically a wild card that can fuck with anyone and be a major wrench in many plans. combination Taiwan and pirate fleet, depending on what you want out of it

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>>2413127
>Leader of Saar Duchy is White
What did they mean by this? Also they posted a bunch of the tech tree, but I'm not saving all that so here's a link to the post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NewWorldEmbers/comments/1fsdn8n/dev_diary_1_part_2/

>>2413123
I love how obviously AI-generated the portraits are

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>>2413123
>the Hooker Tribe is not playable

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>>2413013
My girl is going to beat your girl (sexual pow torture will follow)

>>2413097
I really hope it is good, this is also the first time I am hearing about it and it has so much potential.
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>>2413115
>Sturmfront
>Communes
It will be so kino to reunite either the Reich or the GDR and have a post apocalyptic war with what's left of the French.
>>2413112
I have a faint recollection of a planned game that would follow a British tank crew fighting their way home from Italy to Calais during or after the nuclear exchange. That concept has stuck with me.
>>2413118
>game set during the height of European and American dominance makes them seem important
I fought Asians were supposed to be smart.

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>>2413154
>I have a faint recollection of a planned game that would follow a British tank crew fighting their way home from Italy to Calais during or after the nuclear exchange. That concept has stuck with me.
>It's real
>Not only will it never be made but we will also never ever get a good Fallout game ever again

>>2413154
My point is that they will not keep up with the times. Even games or mods set in the modern day will make Europe disproportionately powerful because Euros can't stand being told they're not important anymore. There's 3 times more people in just China than in the entire EU.

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>>2413169
I get your point but unless you have an actual example of this then it sounds like whining that a game isn't going China number 1. Also whilst China is a very powerful nation, economically and militarily, they are very averse to risk taking such as military adventure so them not being the focus of a war game is hardly an issue with real world politics. I can guarantee you that any games coming out in the next few years that deal with modern war will be focused on either a fictionalised Russia/Ukraine war or the Israel+USA/Iran conflict.
>>2413164
At this point I genuinely want the Fallout franchise to stop, they need that decade break that Doctor Who had in the nineties to find it's real identity again. I doubt they will find it if the ip remains in it's current owner's hands but really it may just be time for a new game/setting outside of Fallout's name but born from it's identity, if you get what I mean.

>>2411301
Not necessarily. You could instead do a superpower Japan, a UK that kept its Empire, and so on. Not all Cold Wars need involve the USSR, or America for that matter. In fact, you could have a US that's gone isolationist due to Unthinkable souring them on any future intervention.

>>2413173
>Doctor Who
Probably not the best example, considering the state that franchise is in right now.

>>2413175
Unthinkable would have no European power other than the URSS. Other than China maybe trying to take the Comintern over there's nobody left.

>>2413183
I disagree. A common fault in alt history is "the point of divergence happens, and then everything is the same except for those involved in the POD."
Half of Germany is nuked. What does that mean for west Germany, for France, for Denmark, for Sweden. There might be a recolonization of Eastern Europe along those lines. Empires might never fall in the 50's without the Soviets providing money and equipment to certain revolutionaries, which means other revolutionaries might take power. And what of China and Japan? Is there a colonization effort in Siberia, or is there a Siberian rump state.
Have fun with it. Saying "but that just means America stands unopposed" is low IQ, it wasn't even true in the 90's with the US and Japan having a micro-rivalry.

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the great war redux is abysmal on russia holy shit
minors get bigger focus tree than you
and post war is basically broken if you win

>>2413184
I'd say Unthinkable wouldn't stop at Germany.

>>2413190
Yeah, I'm implying that Poland, the Baltics, and Russia are at minimum all nuked.

>>2413108
A lot of these are corny in ways that feel like they fit a spiritual sequel to OWB. I half expect the map, if it expands, to have shit like Winged Hussar ghouls and a Danish state based in Lego Land that get defensive bonuses from pointy Lego bits.

>>2412039
Quality>Quantity
Tfr has no more than 5 good paths.

>>2413184
>What does that mean for west Germany, for France
Mass insurrection, protests, riots, strikes and communist uprisings. Possibly a resurgent Nazi werewolf movement sensing the instability. Britain's democracy would collapse leading to a likely military government. Nuking Europe and attacking the Soviets who most people saw as a friend and ally would be insanely unpopular, they only really lost this title in the eye of Joe Public when they crushed the Hungarian uprising along with their repressions of the other nations behind the curtain.

>>2413208
Even if quite a few of them are pretty barebones I feel like the gameplay makes it worth it. It's not too different from old KR. A lot of your political picks end up being cosmetic at a certain point and are more about enabling your LARP but you still play it for the fun wars. What they really need though is less railroading and more choices, like adding some variety to how 2EW shapes up, giving NATO a chance to do their own 1EW, both of them being able to gain different allies and more cross continental interactions. That'd be neat. The problem with a lot of conflicts right now is that they're very samey. But that's already improving with more unifiers in America changing up stuff so maybe there's hope there.

>>2413236
The problem is lots of the time it’s not that. China is in my opinion peak Tfr. you get to Larp, theres stuff to do while you wait for the big war and the big wars actually fun(and there’s not much railroading!). Europe however has you wait 5 years for a war doing practically nothing intresting and than wait another 5 sfter the war is over. If you want to play as an extremist path for France and Germany the first 6 years are you doing nothing! When you finally get to second eu war you have to deal with 15 divisions per tile the Russian Ai shits at you. Europes also pretty railroaded it’s just Cold War east vs west 99% of the time.

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I am detect bad thought on TFR. Not permit.

>Have seen over a dozen ACWs go down and most of the time the APLA wins
>Want to try them out
>Everything goes well initially
>Trump then completely destroys Biden
>Atomwaffen gets bogged down north of Florida
>National Front is utterly retarded
>Trump has a super alliance including pretty much every government remnant
>He declares war on me though I garrisoned the border already since I anticipated this would happen

Thank you TFR for giving me the most stacked Trump I have ever seen in the one run where I play APLA while I rolled over this nigger when I played Biden.

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>>2413403
>Do an AWD playthrough
>PF somehow loses in NE to the AOF
Only time I've ever seen them lose in New England and it happens in the playthrough where I can't win without them.

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Loredad & Error Log won. Big.

>>2413569
Please don't deadname Likgas.

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>No Wolves of Vinland path
Sad! Pagan Neo-Nazis running around the PNW doing weird esoteric rituals sounds kino. I know they're a minor faction in The Base, but it's just not the same.
https://youtu.be/-CQSz28thSM?si=p4NKIQaIoeTmZvLW

>>2413603
Yeah but we're getting the Blood Tribe and the Scandinavians might get skeletons in the future at least judging by the map rework. So maybe the Pagan LARP is living on elsewhere.

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>>2413606
>but we're getting the Blood Tribe
True, they should be fun even if their starting location isn't as kino.
>the Scandinavians might get skeletons in the future at least judging by the map rework.
Almost certainly for the Post-Catharsis content, a band of Pagan larpers up in northern Scandinavia would be fun.

>>2413614
I'd say it's 50-50. But getting both post-catharsis and a CPRF win 2EW Nazi Norway could be fun. That'd be the best of both worlds.

>>2413632
>CPRF win 2EW Nazi Norway could be fun.
It is odd how the Nordic countries don't really go far-right if the CPRF wins the 1EW, they become anocracy's. But that's it, would be nice if they got more skeleton paths.

Didn't the base leak show something about integrating pagan neo-nazis?

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>>2413634
Agreed. And while LARPagans are a pretty tall order we might get something like NRM. I'd be shocked if there aren't some plans for it at least but that's a 1.3 thing at best.

>>2413635
Yes. Dunno how elaborate it is though. I don't think it's a whole new path.

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>>2413635
They exist as factions within The Base, but they don't seem to actually be playable paths.

>>2413639
That's what I thought. But hey, it's nice that we're at least getting a nod to the kino especially since the rest of the path seems like it'll be fun too.

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wher holocaust mod

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>Post war NWTI content involves sending crates filled with machetes to Africa

>>2413639
>>purge christians
>>co-operate with pagan larper group x
>>co-operate with pagan larper group y
>>co-operate with pagan larper group z
>...
>where's my pagan larp path?

>>2413664
>>where's my pagan larp path?
Yeah nigga, the NWTI has Larpagans among its ranks and closely works with them. But they don't ever seem to take over. Which I think is in line with Covington's original vision, but it'd still be fun to have a path where they takeover and enforce their Pagan ideals on everyone. Also on the flip side it would be nice if there was a Christian White nationalist path where you purge the Pagans instead.

>>2413124
>Thassalocracy
2 Kaiserredux 4 me

>>2413124
>Thassalocracy
Who rules in this case? A dolphin or an octopus?

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>>2413639
I'm of the opinion that the dedicated Neo-Pagan LARPer path should be in the NSM. The whole feel and theme of the tag is about engaging with 90s/00s Neo-Nazism and if there are any (ex-)stormfags here they can tell you that neo-paganism was a huge part of it back in the day.

Wolves of Vinland is perfectly fine as a subfaction with NWTI as a collaborationist organisation. It gives flavour and depth to The Base while not stealing the show from Blood Tribe which will essentially form the same function.

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>>2413671
The Base collaborates both with Pagan and Christian groups in the game and at most I guess you'll be able to choose which one you favour more.
The whole 'purge the Christian Nationalists' decision is referring directly to the despotist party in the game, one that is seeking to take power, not one that was collaborating with you.
>>co-operate with pagan larper group y
The New Aryan Nations are a Christian Identity group (They believe White people are God's chosen people and non-whites are subhuman) which Rinaldo Nazzaro collaborates with instead, and you can coexist with them and the pagans, though ideally it should drive some conflict.

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>>2413723
>and you can coexist with them and the pagans, though ideally it should drive some conflict.
Wonder if there's going to be a BoP as well with one side being the Pagans and the other the Christians.

>>2411944
What if you can gain enough influence over them to negotiate a ceasefire like Savinkov can with the International and Entente in Kaiserreich?

>>2413729
i'll check it out on the leaked build, the base content seemed to be doing pretty well

>>2413634
Those countries getting some skeletons would be nice especially since it's becoming a frontline bloc for NATO nowadays. Some other countries like the Baltic states and Romania could also benefit from some additional work, but Scandinavia in general and far-right Scandinavia in particular has a lot of untapped potential. At least with say the EU you get a neocon European Commission.

>>2413729
I think that'd be too much like the AWD. I think it'd be better if it was between say regular White nationalists and the more Nazi aligned people.

>>2411944
Medvedev choosing between China and PDTO is a very interesting idea. It's hard to imagine Russia turning on Xi but reformist Medvedev mending fences with Japan in the face of a revanchist China makes a lot of sense.

>>2413729
The brazil submod would benefit so much from shit like this to increase the performance without removing anyone. Don't simulate the urban warfare directly gosh.

That and governor spam we already have that on USA, make the main conflict wider and more disperse instead to simulate the chaos.

Why does Drumpf always go lolbetarian?

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>>2413827
>Trump liking money confuses anon

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I wonder what this would look like on the ground

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>>2413943
why did they make the bhutanese general such a chad

>>2413943
I'm gonna say it... 3000 damage on a mountain is unfair.
How is line infantry supposed to compete?

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>>2413943
>libertarianism

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>>2413953
>How is line infantry supposed to compete?
They aren't

>>2413962
>Organization: 33
Odd that they aren't melting every time a hurpa durpa with a sharpened stick pokes them

>>2413980
I'm basically just going to use them like a battering ram. They'll delete the org of the entire enemy front line day 1 and the rest of my army can just rush to overrun/encircle.

>>2413962
>53 combat width

If I were you, I’d remove 3, maybe even 4 of your SPA

How do I stop having pathetically weak divisions during the smuta in tno? I can surround multiple enemy divisions because the ai tends to overextend but I am unable to do any damage to them and they’re able to break out and turn the tables by encircling me.

>>2413953
They aren't. There's no point in building non-mechanized infantry except for airdrops. The only infantry that can compete (indeed, they're arguably better, though their speed is still limited) are Exo infantry, which you won't get on the mod's normal timeline unless you play past the end, rush advanced exos, or play as Loji.

I haven't dug into the stats too deep. Does TFR fix artillery balancing or is support arty still better than line arty like in vanilla?

>>2413962
I'd recommend dropping the combat width to 48 to ensure you can always fit 2 divisions into any fight.

>>2414025
Do you play AB or something? It shouldn't be that hard. Some basic infantry/motorized with artillery is usually good enough as a frontline unit in the smuta. For really weak factions though you need some luck and VP cheesing.

>>2414036
>There's no point in building non-mechanized infantry except for airdrops
They're very useful in the 2ACW.

>>2414036
Infantry has a lot of niche featuers. Holding and taking land chief among them. They do a fine job guarding rough terrain.

>>2414047
Infantry are only useful in rough terrain, which would be fine except that it's not guaranteed you'll be able to keep them always on rough terrain, and anywhere you place them on open terrain is automatically a weak point any enemy mechanized units can penetrate.

I get the feeling a lot of people play too much of the 2ACW. Play in Europe or Asia and you will quickly discover that infantry are a colossal liability that get plowed through easily. The mod heavily mechanizes the main AI combatants in those theaters and it makes a huge difference.

>>2413188
What parts of the post war stuff is broken?

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>>2414059
you don't get to participate in versailles at all, i assume france gets to decide everything
turkey border is mangled
releasing poland gives up cores
ottoman puppet belongs to the uk even if you protect them from ataturk

i didn't bother playing out full recovery, russia is really barebones if you win

I used to micro everything for a long time but I've finally gotten tired of it and now use the battleplanner even though it ruins my KD.

>>2414062
The current treaties are extremly barebones rn but they are being reworked, Russia is also being reworked and will *probably* come out at around the end of the year

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After many months of avoiding MD, I finally decided to do a full run in Millennium Dawn. I played as Spain for 26 years, and I have decided that Millennium Dawn is… not that good, honestly.

>performance
MD is faster than I expected, but is still much slower than vanilla, and is way, way more unstable. I ended up getting constant crashes by the 2010s, and a switch of renderer only made crashes occasional.

>Spain itself
There’s basically nothing to do as Spain unless you go fascist (which I didn’t). Your only route for expansion in the soft nationalist tree is demanding Gibraltar, which the UK refused. It did give me a wargoal on Britain, but I would have leave NATO to use it, which I was not in the mood for. While you can justify wargoals in theory, tension decay is so fast that by the time you’re equipped for a war, you won’t be able to generate one. I had to use a toolpack mod to get Morocco to declare war on me.

Spain has “mechanics” for dealing with regional separatists, but it’s so insignificant that you can completely leave it alone. The only other flavor Spain has are events about the Sagrada Senpaiília, basque terror attacks, Catalan parliament declaring independence (which you can just say ‘nuh uh’ to, there’s no follow-up of any kind), and muzzie terror attacks that start after a guaranteed migrant crisis (which has no way to be solved/removed, as far as I can tell.)

>economy
The economy system is integrated into more stuff than I was expecting. MIO upgrades, various focuses and decisions all use up treasury money, which for the first 10 year of the game, you will have extremely little of. Your starting policies (especially welfare) are a black hole for money, and accumulating the PP to lower everything will waste a few years, and those years will make your already sizeable starting debt even bigger. It’s basically impossible to legitimately pay off your debt in a reasonable timeframe.

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>economy, cont.
Civilian factories and a lot of other buildings use fuel, so unless you’re a petrol state, you’ll have to be sacrificing 3/4 of your civs to trade oil, or be consoling in ‘fuel 999999999’ every two-ish months. The energy system is another big limiter in your growth, making you have to stop building whatever to rush through nuclear or renewable plants. Spain itself has nice bonuses to renewables and nuclear, making them a lot more useful compared to everyone else I think.

>Military
Like TFR, Millennium Dawn heavily incentivizes mechanizing your army, mostly by scripting the AI to make mechanized as much as possible. The starting templates are complete ass, so you need to fatten them up to make them actually capable of fighting stuff outside of Africans and jihadis. Picrel are the division templates I used, they can even club other mechanized forces like seals. A very welcome surprise when I was fighting Russia.

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>Military, cont.
The equipment templates I used. I forgot to make everything that weren’t my tanks and jets auto-upgrade, so my army would’ve been even stronger at the end. I barely used my Air Force, so I can’t say if these would’ve been effective or not, and I didn’t even bother with navy or the space/satellite system. The latter was too indecipherable.

>research
Millennium Dawn adds a million little module things that you have to research to make everything worthwhile, and really stretches out the research time and gaps between technologies. For example, a lot of air and ground vehicle modules are 10/15 years apart, with everything else mostly having 5 year gaps. This has a side effect of making jets, like the F-35, which entered production in 2004, stay locked for much longer than they’re supposed to. In MD, the F-35 can’t be produced until the mid-2010s.

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>scripting and world events
Millennium Dawn has a ‘Historical Focus’ toggle, but it’s completely ineffective in making the AI follow history. These were only some of the things I noticed.

- The US never elected any Democrat presidents at all, just 20 straight years of republican rule. Trump was able to run for 3 terms, too, despite winning 2020.
- Canada, Italy, Greece and Turkey left NATO, while the Baltics never joined.
- Italy went through a revolving door governments, appointing communist parties semi-frequently and even the neo-fascist party at one point.
- Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary formed the ‘Visegrad State’, which disbanded less than 3 years later.
- Bosnia, Serbia, Belarus, and Ukraine all joined the EU.
- Indonesia declared war on Australia, for reasons I guess.
- Saudi Arabia declared war on Kuwait and the UAE, for reasons I guess.
- Assadist Syria won their civil war in less than 4 months, and declared war on Israel a few years later. Guess how that turned out.
- Yemen never went into a civil war.
- Japan went fascist, and did absolutely nothing.
- The US declared war on Iran in 2018.
- Russia never made any moves on Ukraine. No crimea, no donbass, nothing.

Only one of these wars had any actual unique content, being the US-Iran war. Iran becomes a UN mandate, then a liberal republic. The rest either stalled out or had generic peace deals with puppets being made. I had to make liberal use of the toolpack to make some of these peacedeals more sensible.

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>scripting and world events, cont.
I was reaching late 2025 and was getting really bored. So, I tagged over to Russia, broke out allowdiplo, and started justifying on Ukraine. When the war started in May 2026, the EU did nothing about one of their members being invaded by Russia. So I had to drag Ukraine into NATO with toolpack. Even with just 36 divisions, the war was so easy, it’s not even funny. Russia just could not push me back at all, and the only thing limiting me was supply and the rest of NATO doing fuck and all to staff the rest of the front and push with me.

There is no flavor for the Russia-Ukraine war, nothing. No newspapers, no events, no city capture events of any kind, nothing. And of course, Russia was only at 60ish% capitulation even when everything from tikhvin to Saratov was captured. Russia didn’t even use their nukes at all. The peace deal was a generic one, and I had to touch it up with toolpack, because of course.

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>closing thoughts
Maybe it’s the zoomer attention span speaking, but this mod does not do a good job of keeping the player engaged and locked in outside of wars. For most of my peacetime, I was just tabbed out and scrolling Twitter and the ‘farms as I waited for my buildings and research to finish.

For 7/8 years, this was the dominant modern setting mod for HOI4, only handing onto its status thanks to inertia and the lack of any serious competition. Then TFR came along and snatched its title despite only having 5 playable countries and being just as barebones as MD in some places.

>tl;dr
A very bland sandbox that’s starting to show its age and lack of content. Really only worth playing over TFR if you really like the earlier start date and sandbox nature, or want to play someone other than Germany, Russia, China or Japan.

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Play PNO next

>>2414056
I tend to put some cheap legged infantry along the border with Norway and Turkey as Russia because it's dirt cheap and plugs the holes there. These are obviously edge cases but it's a pretty good return on investment against the AI. I could see some similar utility in holding land in the GAW there is a ton of mountains and zero supplies like around Tibet where anything with an engine is likely to get 50% attrition but these are edge cases again.

>>2414126
Holy shit, how fucking retarded are you? No one ever thought this piece of shit mod was good or had any discussions about it, it literally just sits at the top of the workshop because of people who subscribed in 2017 and then never played hoi4 again.
Also, activating the historical AI button while playing althis mods just breaks the AI, you troglodyte.

>>2414126
>For 7/8 years, this was the dominant modern setting mod for HOI4
TFR best modern setting mod, comrade.

>>2414126
How out of touch do you have to be to even think md warrants this kind of shit? It was always a silly sandbox that transplanted 2016s modding sensibilities on top of a modern setting and never evolved with the times. It just took some baby steps and ended up with the worst of both worlds: a half hearted attempt at pseudo realism and a bad sandbox. It only thrived as a legacy product.

>>2414126
>For 7/8 years, this was the dominant modern setting mod for HOI4, only handing onto its status thanks to inertia and the lack of any serious competition. Then TFR came along and snatched its title despite only having 5 playable countries and being just as barebones as MD in some places.

I play HOI4 since 2018 and old MD was entirely different from the new one. What you played is not the mod from back then.
Old Modern Day mod was far less limiting. If you wanted to go fascist with a nation you could just do it instead of trying to make sense of the overly confusing focus trees.
There was very little railroading but it was fun when you wanted to do the generic playthrough of switching ideology to then annex a bunch of neighbours. It used to have a 2016/2017 start which was completely removed in the modern version.
The sandbox of the old mod worked way better because the focus trees were easier to navigate. New MD is overly confusing and throws too many mechanics and modifiers at you. The energy system is a perfect example. You have to gut half your industry to not run out of energy which limits your ability to build anything. So you go into to focus tree to get factories but you don't have the right politcal party in power or another completely unrelated focus on the other side of the tree is required.

I don't know if old MD is updated but it is worth it to roll back the game and pick up the old versions that still exist on the workshop. Even 2018 MD is way better than the current one.

>>2414144
I remember when MD fused with MD4 and it really was one of the biggest disasters ever. For those that don't know, MD4 has no relation to MD and tried to be a more grounded mod taking place with Trump in office. It contrasted heavily with MD which, as you said, just let you do whatever. Go Nazi as Germany? Sure! Revive the Roman Empire? Why not! All these wacky things lived right next to OTLism in a very early vanilla focus tree while MD4 could be more recognized as a "modern" HOI4 mod.

I don't know why but at some point they decided to merge. Dev hell and ages without updates followed and the end result is that both mods were neutered. It'll never be grounded enough to appeal to people who like more realistic and grounded gameplay because you still have wacky shit and relics of the past but you'll also never get the sandbox feeling back. It really is just a schizophrenic mod that has a split personality disorder.
>Playing old MD
I bet that's one hell of a time capsule btw. I remember shit like when you picked the fascists in Germany you got kicked out of the EU and then your leader literally just called them cucks. I think that's a good way to set the tone for what to expect out of that one.

>>2414166
The merger truly combined the worst of both. The different features and design philosophies just cockblock each other. China was the only country I actually had fun playing.
Old MD felt very sandbox. TFR in contrast is highly scripted but they both work in their own.
Modern MD is simply misdirected and the devs don't know what their mod is even supposed to do. The focus trees in my opinion are the worst part of it. It also seems that the devs love to throw a gorillion negative modifiers your way.

>I remember shit like when you picked the fascists in Germany you got kicked out of the EU and then your leader literally just called them cucks.
You just unlocked a memory lmao. You see a lot of pre-covid world in it.

>>2414176
Like I said great time capsule. It has a lot of fun moments like that. By the way nu-MD has Boko Haram Nigeria with a (bad but w/e) focus tree. Playing a terrorist network and trying to create a West African caliphate was at least a bit entertaining.

when 3I rework

>>2410993
general question: i've been working on a mod recently and i just can't continue anymore bc the 50% of the developers are troons who contribute nothing other than bitching about their multiple personalilties and how every far-right chud should die; and the other 45% are just leftists who love communism and torturing germans. ive tried to hide my actual political believes and i just can't keep doing this anymore. is there a way to keep going? should i leave the team?

>>2414211
If you hate it there then yes just leave. You don't rely on it for a paycheck. If you hate them, just withhold your work.

>>2414211
Just leave it. What you described it the perfect setup for drama and if this mod ever gets big (or it already is) there will be drama which makes you want to kill yourself.

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>>2414211
Just leave and leak everything. Suffer not the 41%ers to live.

>>2414226
This.
Troonist infighting is not something that needs even an ounce of attention.

>>2414215
>>2414216
I've thought about stealing the mod and split the community by creating a version without any troons but the mod team has just 20 people (only 3 actually contribute with the mod itself, as in we have access to the github and write locs and edit the code) and the server almost reaches 200 people. Maybe down the line when the mod gets released I'll do that.
>>2414226
If the troon fatigue gets to me before the release I will do it. Every choice I make gets criticized by the troons bc "a NAZI/FASCIST would NEVER DO THAT". I have to swear allegiance to globohomo every 10 seconds otherwise they block every decision I make with their retarded world-view

>>2414243
>only 3 actually contribute with the mod itself, as in we have access to the github and write locs and edit the code
Make a private chat with them, and lock the github from everyone else. Then you can work in silence.

>>2414243
Don't get involved in drama unless you've really thought it through. Simply quitting and witthholding all your shit will fuck them over especially if you get everyone else with a brain to join you. Although I have to say:

>>2414284
This is a really funny idea.

>>2414284
To add to this, you'll have to review everything not made by those 3 people because the troons will inevitably have added something disastrous into the mod. A stupid event, for example.
Keep your eyes open!

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LOUDER FOR BROWDER!!!

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COMRADE BROWDER ANNOUNCES THE JOB WELL DONE!!!

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>>2414343
>1946
>the focus tree is over

>>2414353
I mean, I finished the main parts of focus tree by 1943, I just continued playing to actually paint the world RED

>>2414140
>>2414143
Most people here haven’t touched MD or only played it for an hour or two before quitting. I thought posting these would give more insight, at least.

>>2414362
I highly doubt that. I played a lot of that mod back in 2017/8, and I am sure lot of people here did too.

>>2414367
New millennium Dawn, I meant to say. Old MD is so different, it’s basically a different mod, and basically is with Novum Vexellium.

>>2414367
>>2414373
I'm the other way around. I played a lot of the old one but never liked the new one. Old one's probably not aged like a fine wine however.

>>2414211
>troons who contribute nothing other than bitching about their multiple personalilties and how every far-right chud should die
How the fuck do these people get involved in a game centered around World War II?
Faggots like this were rejected the world over back then.
Do they even enjoy the game, history, or setting?
Why do troons waste their time on shit they hate? Me personally, I'm not playing indie games made by trannies because I hate that. So why are they inhabiting a community they don't like?

>>2414407
They are everywhere today. They're like locusts, or an infection. They see a perfectly healthy community and will twist it until it's about themselves, or the community crashes and burns.
See what they did to the comic book industry, or the film industry, or gaming at large. Not one of the trannies working in those industries care about the industry itself, or the people that consume it.

>>2414211
Kick them out, it’s not like they actually contribute to the mod or anything. They’re dead weight on you and the mod

>>2414120
>Sagrada Senpaiília
Kek

>>2414447
Autocorrect’s a bitch

>>2414211
what is your job there

>>2414421
The problems is that they are entrenched into the system and have been there before I joined. Plus the head dev allows them to do whatever they want. I'm pretty much all alone here. I firmly believe there are some shadowy factors at play, as some troons (who like being treated as kids btw) try to help but don't have a general knowledge of history. There must be some external power structure I'm not familiar with.
>>2414407
99% of online troons are unsupervised kids who were groomed into digital dissociation or becoming massive fucking gooners. We all know that troons only reproduce like parasites, feeding on a human body and then commanding the dying host to groom another, turning them into a troon and thereby repeating the grooming cycle. I've confronted them about the topic of grooming in general, and they are obviously against it, but then they "push" people by saying stuff "i'm sorry i HAAAAVE to draw you as a femboy furry, do not resist" and then they follow up by trying to coerce a positive response by asking you DO YOU LIKE IT?? THEN YOURE A TRANS GAY FLUID GAY HOMO!!! YOURE ONE OF US!!! I'm just sick of it all.

>>2414448
Just don't drink the onions sauce.

>>2414458
I believe that genuine transgender people exist but the vast majority of them is mentally ill.
Almost every trans person has some form of mental illness and probably fucked up parents too. If you take 100 random trans people you will find 5 at best who do not suffer from mental illness, have a good relation with their parents, did not live through childhood trauma and were not groomed on the internet.

If you cut yourself because you are mentally ill, you have to go to a clinic. But if you want to pump yourself full of hormons and effectively mutilate your body via various surgeries, you are a healthy and responsible individual who does not need any psychological treatment whatsoever.

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what are you supposed to do when ai majors shit themselves?
i can't push against 2 million austrians + countless balkan hordes

>>2414511
You have 1 million manpower build more units, build some tanks, build airforce
Why dont you experiment before asking such questions, anon?

>>2414511
make tanks and encircle Germans on the French front
alternatively, dig in and wait for Russia to rape Eastern Europe

>>2414511
Why are you expecting France and UK to bail you out?
You have as much industry as the UK at this point use it.
Make quality Fighters + CAS. Make some medium tanks. Mass buy equipment you are lacking from the market.

>>2414511
Once you capitulate Austria it's basically GG for Germany because there is no chance they can hold without them.
I would personally naval land every single coastal province with huge infantry units and obliterate the entire balkans.

>>2414518
i couldn't scale before wk, red italy doesn't get free cores
italian federation was way easier, i got actual build up there and could roll france solo

>>2414524
red russia seems kinda dogshit, they've been at it for a year and the frontline barely moved
im more worried about turks joining, they raped egypt and persia

>>2414534
Does America look like they will fight you?
I think you need to rush the Balkans, double time. Wipe austria and their slav puppets, turn around and solo Sandfrance.
You need to do this before commie France dies and anyone else joins against you or it's going to be 10x harder. Buy everything you can from the market.

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>>2414541
i think long is going to win, but it's going slowly
we are just outnumbered, overall trading 1:2 doesn't make a dent

>>2414574
>fully formed MittelAfrika
>Full Dominion of India
Is this KR or KX? This shit never happens when I play KX. Those two tags are making this much harder for your faction.
Holy fuck.
I mean, if you can hold this you can win but it's pretty stacked ngl.

>>2414580
kr
for me dominion wins civil war every game
status quo austria is annoying, i feel like federation is weaker usually

>>2414582
Makes sense. MittelAfrika collapses more times than not in KX. Dominion loses or stagnates every single game in KX. The focus tree is too long and they barely get around to unifying by 1945.
The balance in both mods is pretty skewed sometimes.
Looks like Japan is blowing up the Pacific for you atleast so that's helping you.

>>2411968
The Girls Frontline mod is a 10/10 for the Demo, much more impressed with it compared to how Red Dusk originally released despite the skeleton content for the West rn. I'd say it's the best Cold War (But future) and WW3 mod rn, I had a lot of fun despite getting raped by Consumer goods as the NSU.
They are teasing some stuff for France rn so that's good.
Still can't get over how the WW3 is, there's a special mechanic for the nukes and strategic weapons and it's kino to see mushroom clouds all over the map while Tanks and Dolls are grinding through. I ran some mods and buffed the AI a bit and I can't love it enough.

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>>2414616
Forgot pic related.

When is the Prigozhin update coming?

>>2414645
I am more interested in the Doctrinal rework. New dlc is almost out and they still didn't release it.

>>2414627
Really like the UI work they did.

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>prop up france
>they ran out of manpower on service by req + 1.5% focus bonus
incredible and they just have 2M losses compared to germs with 6M

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>The TNO lead has such an insane TDS that he reworked America to be fascist, made even the liberals into fascists, and made it so that America can only be saved by electing a black queen

>>2414758
get back in that discord and tell him the word he's looking for is 'managerialism'

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>>2414758
>inserting liberal headcanon about OTL into TNO
How the fuck is TNO America fascist?
How does becoming fascist make them "lose" the cold war?
That would be like if OTL America became communist.
Nothing would've changed because the Cold War wasn't about which economy or form of governance was superior, it was a struggle for the narrative of who had more geopolitical influence (even though America was already in control). It was a power struggle.
The OTL Cold War was like Ken (USSR) vs Ryu (USA). You know Ryu is better but Ken existing challenges the narrative of Ryu being the undisputed best in the world despite him earning the title.
The TNO Cold War is like Caesar's Legion (Germany) vs NCR (USA). It used to be that the players' opinions and the writing were congruent with each other. The players thought both factions were equally valid and flawed. Now the writing is being misconstrued to make Caesar's Legion some bandit tribe ran by a crazed lunatic who brainwashes people using force with no future plans and make NCR a wholesome chungus democratic republic (except now USA is getting reworked to become the second interpretation of Caesar's Legion, which FONV Redditors hilariously wouldn't even agree with).

Do nudevs fathom just how much they overcomplicated the mod? It's a total hijack of the mod to fulfill a couple of midwits' flavor of the week political rants.

Also
>unions are fascist
holy fuck, what a corposhill bootlicker. Is this guy even sentient?

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>>2414758
>made it so that America can only be saved by electing a black queen
God please be real.

>>2414790
>unions are fascist
How does that even make sense? Unions were one of the few good things that reds ever did.

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>>2414794

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>>2414802
>Only a beautiful, powerful, and independent black queen can save AmerIKKKan cracKKKers from themselves
Powerful stuff, you've really knocked it out of the park Nu-TNO devs. Can't wait to read this VN update when it releases in 2029.

>>2414802
>a black woman being elected POTUS in the 60’s

This, is the most unrealistic thing to ever be added to TNO. Nothing can trump this.

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>>2414758
>it's real

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>>2414816
It's actually in the 1972 elections but your point still stands. At least in the initial plans she was meant to be able to rule from 1972-80. The chart's a bit old and the tag has been reworked several times since then but this part seems to be sticking.

>>2414653
>I am more interested in the Doctrinal rework
I think that's coming in 1.1, could be wrong though.

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>>2414758
These genuine retards could literally just make their le bad america so easily.
>FDR sets precedent for running for multiple terms
>followed up by increasingly curropt presidents who ignore the rule of law
>bring in random shitlib they like
>have them couped by something similar to the business plot
You get your america that despite being objectively better than Germany and Japan is still a terrible country but can be reformed into something better.

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TFR Radio mod update when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_HoMkkRHv8

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>>2414902
They need to add this song too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIxsPBbZ_b8

>>2414906
It's in the EU radio

>>2414897
The business plot succeeding and being the reason FDR was never president would make TNO America a lot more interesting.

>>2414758
What are we supposed to do as America if there's no proxy wars in Africa?

>>2414929
They need to add it again then because it's that good.

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>>2414937
They do have proxy wars but since the nudevs are neoliberals that means that the epic civilizational clash between the SS and flawed democracies is replaced by GUI slop where you back one African strongman against another in a hyperpragmatic race for resources and influence. You're a bigot if you don't think a bush war with a tiny border adjustment in a shithole that doesn't matter isn't superior to Vietnam war VS Boers and the SS.

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>>2414937
>>2415012 (me)
This is being done all over the mod by the way. The Oil Crisis wars will be replaced with GUI slop of similar stakes. Why would you want a multi-party civil war in Iran when you can have a GUI conflict over a Gulf island between two regional strongmen over resources in an area? You will have no gameplay and you will be happy.

>>2415014
>mfw the absolutist monanarchist route keeps the monarch as HOS in most paths
There's plenty of things wrong in TNO but that is a weird hill to die on

>>2415036
ayrt only mentioned the war being cut and replaced with low stakes GUI slop. Although I'm sure having a very dynamic civil war be replaced with a comsetic change in an unplayable tag will annoy some people though. I just don't care any more. It's obviously not made by or for people who play the game.

>>2414794
>>2414802
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2414844
It is certainly weird to delay it that long. Considering they basically were doing the same thing PDX did. So it really shouldn't take that long.