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This thread is dedicated to the star known as Gliese 667C and space's greatest thief, Kaneko Lumi (金子瑠美)

Space's greatest thief has come for her next big haul! Lumi is a mischievous star from a solar system far away. She came to Earth to learn all about the people, the history, and of course, the valuables! She loves to sing, overcome challenges and most of all, have fun!

Bratty and mischievous, Lumi loves to poke people and push them, and herself, to their limits! Easily amused, Lumi loves to learn new things and explore her curiosities. Bouncy and fun, teasing and competitive, and sometimes soft and vulnerable, Lumi is the full rollercoaster of emotions!

Schedule: Lumi will be gone for two weeks due to a family emergency.

Idol Songs: https://youtu.be/rdGLAjNTUlA
https://youtu.be/yGFiH98YOug
https://youtu.be/YEf3M-NB3Gg
https://youtu.be/bRlu_bc2hp8
https://youtu.be/2N5-wtbjkXU
https://youtu.be/UdnuzLXijho

Twitter: https://twitter.com/kaneko_lumi
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/KanekoLumi
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi
Twitch Archive: https://www.youtube.com/@lumikaneko
https://gofile.io/d/KGXbJt
https://gofile.io/d/votdVz
https://mega.nz/folder/J6l0UCLC#Xsq4LOPewcc20TexfB6dvg

SPECIAL ANNOUNCMENT: Lumi has a special message to her gumis
https://files.catbox.moe/nm9rhv.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/f8c730.mp4

Come listen to her best Christmas songs
https://youtu.be/2N5-wtbjkXU

The VOD where Lumi discusses going to the sperm bank and getting pregnant
https://youtu.be/AwJoFBJM8Cc

Lumi is asking if she's fat
https://youtu.be/HjPZdArEWZg

New Tardwife cover song
https://youtu.be/JI3tbVP6NlY

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we made it!
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>>111002231
When you doubt..
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Cucktuber
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>>111001198
Oh I see. I can only guess it's Xynchro's dick measuring contest.
>>111001507
Is that why she's so protective of him? It's strange that she doesn't care about any other artist as much as him. I know for a while he didn't have a job and was drawing her whatever people wanted him to drawn in a day.
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>>111002449
Lumi's protective of anyone loyal, otherwise you end up like Kota
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>>111002474
>Kota
I'm a old fag but I never payed that much attention to the chatters. Who is this Kota and what did he do that was so bad? Misspell a word in chat?
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>>111002585
He became a Star Knight
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>>111002585
he was an annoying attention whore but not even the worst offender
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>>111001165
>Gives free 2k to a random lady on the internet for a cat that they dont know that she 100% wants.
Isn't it common sense that you don't buy a pet as a gift for someone? It's especially dumb that your giving 2k to a random women on the internet to a women that you don't know personally. That's next level parasocial delusion.
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>>111002688
Aren't you a gumi? Why give your wife anything less than perfection?
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>>111002591
>>111002645
Oh the fat man from 2 weeks ago. I see on Twitter he's still responding to lumi's tweets. I wonder if she's going to pretend that whole drama never happened now?
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So, now that we know, and Lumi knows she has no rizz. Will she comeback humbler than ever before?
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>>111002814
that was damage control to Uruka's thot patrol tweet
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>>111002688
My name's not on that list
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>>111002814
She got passed around bro. The hosts at kabukicho are no joke
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i like watching lumi, shame she doesnt stream on youtube more, twitch is gay
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>>111002645
How does one attention whore in this context? Twitter drama or clip drama or something else? I honestly barely noticed him before the recent happening.
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>>111002952
Twitch is a gay adhd mess of an interface but it helps her keep user names straight.
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>>111002974
he's always very loud about liking Jelly in chat, i think that's what ticked her off
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>>111003011
I got the vibe that Lumi's oshihen comment was less about being sad she lost a fan and more about clarifying how she had still considered him a gumi when she yelled at him and wasn't trying to shit on another talent's chat. I could be wrong though.
The ending was sort of sad. Her apology was of the "oh, I interacted with you like a person because I considered you a person. My mistake. You're text on a screen now. I feel like everyone needed a hug but one got hot and the other cold.
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>>111002998
This does a good job of capturing the looking up from laptop, rolling your eyes, and grabbing a hand around neck kiss anyways.
Good job to the artist for evoking such an oddly specific reflex.
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Only 9 more weeks to practice the script for what I'll say to her at the meet and greet
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>>111005220
Before you say anything, make sure you're fat and dress like an adult. The zoomers will call you out for it but she will literally kill you if you're not a cheugy
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>>111002998
an oneesan moments before turning her little brother into a man
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what does it say about our oshi that she isn't in the Sykkuno files?
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>>111002814
I wonder if she’s seething still.
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so, did Lumi seduce papakin like she planned?
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She should know better than to make us ask what we so obviously wonder.
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>>111002814
She will make an excuse in how Japanese men don’t like strong independent women.
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how much longer...
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>>111007937
She's too big for some small male indie. Supposedly gura played games with him though.
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>>111007937
she ain't about japanese pickle
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>>111015358
>He is one of the biggest streamers
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>>111015881
Maybe in Asia
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>>111015465
Why did she try to prostitute herself in japan then?
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>>111018552
It was a lie spread by Uruka to usurp her.
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Does this mean she made it back home in one piece?
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Lumi doesn't feel like this, does she?
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>>111020541
Yes
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>>111020541
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>>111024704
Okay fine, she can sleep on the bed but only for tonight. Collar stays on. Obviously.
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>>111024704
Why is she like this?
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>>111031240
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>>111024984
She sleeps in my bed every night so i can keep the brainworms away
>>111029965
Bad family upbringing in her childhood. There's more than that since it's odd how shes extremely scared of the dark.
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>>111031436
Brat
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She realizes that love isn't a transitory thing like approval/exasperation levels, right? It's not something that is at risk of drying up each time there is enough friction for a recuse or abuse moment. I know that is obvious but I feel like a certain someone's hug defecit is measurable in months.
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>>111033732
>She realizes that love isn't a transitory thing like approval/exasperation levels, right?
No. She constantly denies this and tries to corrupt the few genuine relationships that aren’t transactional because they scare her.
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>>111033732
You will find many slavic women who disagree
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>>111034641
She's a silly little thing. I hope she doesn't spend her life close to what she wants while always having some excuse to avoid the means of directly communicating with it.
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>>111034911
It's so funny to me that you think she not only comes here and reads your thread, but also that your posts have any kind of influence over her. Every post is like some kind of thinly veiled maro message, part whiteknight LARP and part cringe armchair psychologist.
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>>111034957
You can tell a lot by how someone structures a reply
I'm calling femanon, cuck or both
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today's the day! She's coming back!
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She's always been like this
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>>111035266
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>>111036084
uuuuuuuuu
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>>111034957
>every
You seem to have a lot of emotional energy invested in this anon. Penis envy is no laughing matter. How was your relationship with your dad?
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www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi
www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi
www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi
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>>111038273
Tongue inspection! Open wide! Don't even think about spitting.
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I hope she coom baits once the tts spam dies down.
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uhh, leaving the wish air bnb and the Uruka tweet, this doest paint a good picture
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I think this is it, Wish is Lumi's reason for staying in Phase, if her relationship with Jelly and Ember by extension has soured then it's unironically over
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Its over?
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it's over
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I enjoy being Lumi's hyperfixation.
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>>111040185
she doesn't even know who you are
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>>111038273
>They are creepy but kids need that trauma... It builds character
What the fuck is wrong with her?
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>>111040363
She was traumatized
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>>111040446
Can we fix her?
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>>111042755
Does she want to be fixed?
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>>111042870
no
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>>111042895
You can lead a horse to water
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>>111042870
Yes
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>>111039558
Lumi hates ember. She loves dizzy.
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>>111047334
Intereting rrat. Why?
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recording mocap sounds awful
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>>111049633
sweaty and covered in balls the entire time
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I wonder how Lumi is spending her tard rest
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I hate to say it, but it sounds like Lumi was the only person who had a sane response to the expectation that a group of women pushing their 30s would have no problem spending two weeks living in middle school summer camp conditions. Doubly so if they were all acting like that was a perk of the job.
Feeling agitated and questioning the life choices that brought anyone to that point isn't the issue here. She shoulf be more concerned about where they were absent.
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>>111035637
I wish I could have seen what she was like when she was a 2 view. Although that could alter the timeline.
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>>111051577
Probably yelling at clouds
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>>111049165
She doesn't talk about ember the same way as Jelly and Dizzy
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Okay serious question. Has Lumi claimed opsec privilege for the means by which she inadvertantly spawned the Luming allegations?
Lumi told us, albeit very briefly and without directly connecting the dots, the specific act responsible for creating the confusion that led to Luming. That dead horse has been rotting in the sun for months now. Does she enjoy the smell or is she worried about it being repeated?
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>>111058511
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Okay just have to say a quick fuck you to that guy before I sleep.
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Grooming her into hating her Wish polycule is an interesting tactic to say the least
Especially doing that here of all places
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>>111058511
She enjoys safe schizo, "the schizo is essaying because he cares" but no she don't know why people think that. She's currently assuming it's Pipkun head canon and not a 5 year old rrat.
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>>111060773
Has she looked in the mirror at any point in the last year? One thing is very differsnt from how it used to be.
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>>110914954
I wish she was actually racist instead of promoting olivia dean "perfect mix" shit like 3 times in the last few weeks. the reality is that she's unfortunately a very "open minded" normie, and I'm close to dropping her after 3 years because of the recent shit. white women need to be more racist than her for me to like them. I guess only panko might qualify.

her new project is probably with some black musician too, gotta make up for jelly's racism somehow. at least she's quitting soon to have some kids that might be white if we're lucky
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>>111060773
>She enjoys safe schizo, "the schizo is essaying because he cares"
LOL
LMAO
>Lumi reads my schzo rants and likes them!
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I wish home invasion upon Lumi
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>>111062980
I'm not talking about this thread I'm talking about the way chatters obsess about her on stream and create rituals
V
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>>111059293
>Hate
No one wants that. Quite the opposite. No matter how close people are, some core differences will always carry the potential for real friction. Trying to reshape someone into something more convenient is pointless; there will always be more differences.
What matters is how sincerely you can set those differences aside while preserving both the relationship and each person as they are. It’s much easier to focus on solutions after you’ve calmly identified the points of tension, accepted them, and put them in perspective, often realizing they weren’t as significant as they seemed. Ignoring them only makes things worse.
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>>111063324
Lumi
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lemon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uruuQPcxXd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uruuQPcxXd0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uruuQPcxXd0
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Don't do this to yourself Lumi, you can't replace Jelly with Uruka you're gonna have to learn how to fix relationships eventually instead of running away from them
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>>111068802
Did Jelly and her have a falling out?
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>>111069230
Jelly was sick and Lumi was running out of social battery, something happened and Lumi felt bad about it. Rather than apologizing she booked into a hotel than stay at the airbnb.
Since then she's been saying "I should apologize to Jelly" but so far hasn't and ever since coming back she's been gushing over Uruka.
>Uruka and me did this
>Uruka and I are really similar (not autist)
>Let me tell you about this planner that me and Uruka got
I don't know why women do this but they try to fomo their friends back rather than own up to anything bad they did.
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>>111069302
women and taking responsibility for their actions
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Man that stream started out super negative and antagonistic. After that it was just regular yapping.
I expected some gentleness.
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>>111069302
>Uruka and I are really similar
yeah, both Chinese
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Lumi got a message from sykuno in 2024
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clearly living in new york in your 20s is the equivalent of 20+ bodies
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Lumi could have been ERPing with us this whole time but was doom scrolling instead..
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>More work
God damn it. I just want to make my tardwife enjoy hanging out again. Can we help or is this just only going to end just in time for her to graduate?
I miss my little baby retard..
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>>111071799
Idk there's no community project in the pipeline it might unironically be over. I also get the sense that most current active members have moved on
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>>111072024
What? It's con bullshit somehow never coming to an end + getting roped into group shit in the time that was supposed to be set aside for her album (the important thing). Chat is bring more retarded than usual and the anting is starting to get to her tho.
It's weird being a crisis resolution person and stuck being impotent when someone you like is having a bad time.
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>>111072260
I was replying to
>Can we help
Usually what pulls VTubers out of a funk is their chat doing something for them but we're not working on anything currently. And she's also so fucking antsy she might take it the wrong way
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>>111072376
Oh. Yeah. I feel like it is one of those things where her chat is either oldfag doing something for so long that it is taken for granted, newfag being retarded, or old fag turned seething anti.
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Wait why is Sakana buying her cola? Don't fucking tell me she had to go to Canada for more shit
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>>111072646
I assume Sakana is staying in Japan a bit longer too, he did last time. Since she was specifically asking Sakana to buy some Japanese cola for her
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>>111072998
Ohhhh I thought he was out on a food/drink run or something. That makes me sense, she isn't a soda person. Good. At least she is home even if we can't baby her directly while she figures out whatever it is that's bothering her so much.
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>>111073060
>while she figures out whatever it is that's bothering her so much
She literally said it though, she's burned out and wants to take a proper vacation but feels guilty about not streaming in the middle of idol-camp, con-season boogaloo
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>>111073117
I'm catching up on the Zatsu now. The way she talked about Japan made it sound like there were specific action items she is brainworming over. Maybe she just meant she is too emotionally exhausted to recount it.
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>>111073274
Could be, but my guess is she really hates her body giving up on her based on similar vibes after Tenma got everyone covid that one time. I happen to know some people that brainworm hard over relatively minor issues but are completely fine with having a broken leg or something.
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>>111073393
Oh yeah she said she was up all night freaking our about PT. Maybe that's what it is. She has been so fucking avoidant, it would be weird if she wasn't anxious. She needs a hug and a shoulder either way.
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We can fix Lumi
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>>111075159
The can of it is a foregone conclusion. Lumi will have to choose to trust if she wants to see that can become a will.
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>>111076239
My bleary eyed baby blue.
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Alpharius, your time to shine
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Lumi had multiple houses growing up!
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I had a 7 day so I couldn't snap you fags back to reality over the weekend. Some of you were getting a little too worked up over Uruka's Xeet. You are taking Lumi for granted. She does so much for us. How did you survive Oblivion but that is what gets you upset. She is an actually talented high effort streamer we can't afford your tantrums to risk what we have. Get a grip and don't do it again. Looking back you probably feel like an idiot. Good.
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>>111077801
obviously at the same time
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>>111077832
simp
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>>111077867
I'm not a simp I have ascended. You don't know how good we are eating. We are eating really fucking good.
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>>111077921
ascended simp
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>>111077947
Look just don't be an embarrassment again. Imagine Lumi reading those posts where you sound like a jealous ex. How have you not killed yourself out of shame yet.
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>>111078062
I'm male and used to having accountability and dealing with my own problems
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>>111078355
Yes, but Lumi finds accountability foreign to her, even alien, so please don't make her uncomfortable.
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>>111078581
I have to admit this type of anti-character is foreign to me but I'm curious how it will play out
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>>111078619
Same. I thought we had seen everything. He made it past the firewall too, which is a feat in it of itself.
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She really is pleasant to be around.
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>>111081827
Lies.
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>>111069652
Don't spread misinformation unless you got the message
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>>111072646
>she had to go to Canada for more shit
She probably will in few weeks
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>>111087089
Why does Sakana Make her suffer?
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>>111088491
Lumi brings this upon herself
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>>111088491
Free labor before she graduates
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>>111088491
I feel like her natural inclination to play support may have a touch of the compulsive to it.
>>111089534
She has a lot of love to give. I think her life will get much easier once she knows it's mutual.
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After hearing how lumi dressed and how men treated her in japan I think that lumi might have gotten hit with the ugly stick.
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>>111089848
Okay..
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>>111089848
I don't care how lumi looks irl. I will still love her no matter how ugly she thinks she is.
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>>111087052
she said it in the youtube stream, retard
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>>111089848
Lumi is not ugly. She’s beautiful.
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>>111091697
Lumi is ugly on the inside.
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The chat interaction is horrible lately. I don't even understand why, like I can feel her roll her eyes while I'm alt-tabbed.
I want to believe she's picking out the worst of the worst because she's in a bad mood because otherwise the chat is just awful now?
And I get it, gumis are just perma seething at everyone else but this seems like an actual thing.
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>>111092834
>she's picking out the worst of the worst
For the most part, she used to try to fix people but now she's accepted that it's not possible
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Lumi is walking chat
https://www.youtube.com/live/TiZV_7KkOu8?si=qn1ozikOn5WEIfGk
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>Lumi's experimenting with a setup where chat is the dog
Oh hell no this is gonna spawn some unholy shit from Pupi
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Reeee I had to miss it.
>>111093465
Oh thank God, I would have had to buy some chloroform if she was pupmi.
>>111092950
She'll prove herself wrong.
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Lumi is a good girl.
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She really wants to dom chat.
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>>111097010
I feel like the day that happens is the day so gets icked by her own chat and it is literally over from that moment on.
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I choose to believe Lumi is smart enough to be sleeping like a baby. One who ordered a nice steak or similarly protein dense meal. And dreams of things that give her soft feelings.
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>>111093464
She's so happy.
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>>111093464
>>111101286
This was revenge right? The cycle of abuse
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>>111099673
LUMI HATES DRUGS!
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>>111103643
She's a cola fiend anon. Come to terms with it before it destroys you.
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Who's lumi's kamioshi?
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>>111104605
wubby
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I think I missed her more than I care to admit.
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>>111104735
Vtuber wise
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>>111104848
suisex, but it's debatable
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>>111104848
To the extent that someone who doesn't watch vtubers for non-professional reasons could have one? Probably Vei since she was clearly inspired by her and has said a lot of nice things. Although if the rrats are true I struggle to wrap my mind around how she could like her.
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>>111104888
>if the rrats are true I struggle to wrap my mind around how she could like her.
Explain plz
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>>111104956
tl;dr Lumi seems to know literally everyone and Vei seems like a mean spirited cunt.
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>>111104956
Veibae showed up to stream in blonde wearing a blue cuck-hat shortly after Lumi joined Phase. They have a mutual, timelines seem to line up
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>>111105247
Did Veibae even knew Lumi existed back then? Lumi only hit her stride after a year or 2 in Phase. Before that she only had 8k when Pippa had around 32k when phase was starting to take off.
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>>111105472
Best not to dwell on these things Anon
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>>111105472
yeah, they knew each other since way before, vei even got asshurt that Lumi was "friends" with her ex bf, same ex bf came all of a sudden in one of Lumi's streams and asked her to marry him if they're both still alone after 30
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>>111105472
Lumi somehow knew everyone before anyone was anyone. It's admittedly a little strange. Don't misconstrue this as some faggy cuckpost, I just mean that there is a story in there somewhere. One she has not yet elaborated upon.
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>>111105603
>One she has not yet elaborated upon
and she never will
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>>111105596
>same ex bf came all of a sudden in one of Lumi's streams and asked her to marry him if they're both still alone after 30
Wasn't this said to maxor but the age was 35?
>>111105603
>Lumi somehow knew everyone before anyone was anyone
It was probably a mmo guild thing. I know it's an ancient rrat. More realistic than the oblivion one. It makes you think why she distanced herself from her mmo days, was it some big drama that carried over to her early vtubing days?
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>>111105621
Yes, not retarded, there is a reason things are being said the way they are being said.
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>>111105752
>was it some big drama that carried over to her early vtubing days?
No, you can see it play out exactly the same way as she describes it and how she deals with interpersonal conflicts.
Guy tries to ask her out in mmos - leave the guild
Girls start getting jealous - leave the guild
Fight with Cyberlive Talents - nuke the company
Fight with Jelly - switch to Uruka
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>>111105752
>Wasn't this said to maxor but the age was 35?
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>>111105752
She has lots of internet friends. I kinda want to learn how the fuck she managed to leverage terminally online into such absurdly effecrive networking. Sadly, anons find a way to turn everything Lumi related into a cuck thing.
It's very rare to find such a big skill delta, so the disgusting levels of irony from going after Lumi of all people has come full circle with us getting cucked out of learning.
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>>111105912
I hope she's still buddies with her old friends. I know it's not possible for single guys to be friends with single women and the moment the guy gets locked down and can be friends, his girlfriend will sabotage it. But if anyone can find a way, she could.
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>>111106042
Lumi has no friends.
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So, you think that Kotazuma guy is losing weight?
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>>111108980
No. Why would he get better when Lumi denounces him?
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>>111108417
Only one way to fix that.
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Lumi is streaming in the evening again because she loves us, hurray!
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>>111109006
He should do it to spite Lumi now. Become chad while adamantly being a starknight. The seethe would be spectacular.
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>>111109447
She's not picking up the phone
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>>111109495
Yeah for real, where the fuck is she, she posted this 30 minutes ago. That's not like her. Hopefully she just took a nap.
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Lumi is being depressed again
https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi
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Why is lumi calling the love of her life ugly?
https://youtu.be/YTTyJlxGDvg?si=O2DZOf0xRIcp_TBP
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I appreciate Lumi doing a night stream. If she is tired or busy she could just do a week of night streams. She would have spent that time being terminally online anyways so it would be very near vacation.
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She may be getting annoyed with us again already.
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Lumi is more of a cunt than she used to be. She never used to do the thing where she repeats what someone says in a bitchy way. Wonder what happened to her.
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>>111113003
She's exhausted with the constant negativity. I would be too/sort of am honestly. That's why I keep shilling PM streams. The resovoir of routine has become stagnant. She unironically needs to mix up her core chat with different streaming times. Plus she is fucking exhausted and a night owl.
And of course just as I type this, she uses Gloomi to test the waters for taking a break. She's cold even to people she enjoys. Things are headed down a very obvious path, but her brain is so focused on projects, streaming has become a grind. So she is treating it like a grind instead of putting her creativity towards structural solutions. I'd really rather she didn't continue down the emotional breakup path and leave vtubing bitter and more alone than when she started.
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>>111113251
It doesn't help she doesn't get any sleep and just got back from working 12 hour days in japan without a day off as well.
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What if... Lolumi Oblivious ASMR?
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>>111113003
She never got over SunbrOcean, ever since she was forced to get rid of him she's been pissy.
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>>111113003
She never got over SunbrOcean, ever since she was forced to get rid of him she's been pissy about everybody else in chat.
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Another day of pissing her off without knowing why. The self-imposed "a challenging day is a fast day" energy strat of listening to a stream in one earbud while working your ass off providing professional services on the other is.. less stimulating when energy out is not returned in the spirit it was sent.
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>>111114186
She said she's never doing asmr because it freaks her out.
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>>111114294
What even happened to him? Everyone was complaining about him during the oblivion stuff last year now he's gone?
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>>111115550
After he had multiple crashouts on Discord and started sending her donos off stream with increasingly creepy messages, management stepped in and forced her to shut it down. She may or may not have accepted that he was mostly a mouthpiece for ChatGPT at the end, but she had already spent 6 months believing every word he typed.
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>>111116028
I'd say there's no way she believed him but after the recent revelations I have finally internalized that these girls are just as socially incompetent as the average viewer, if not more so
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Lumi really has a unique ability to bounce energy back and forth. Pissing her off without knowing why is usually impossible and the complexity she struggles to articulate is readily expressed unsaid.
A challenge like keeping up with a stream in one ear bud while working your ass off providing professional services with the other should just be a distraction. She somehow turns it into the energizing flow state inducing hallenge that just makes the day go by faster.
I hope whatever today was is just her lashing out instead of something bigger.
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>>111116028
This was a good thing, for obvious health and safety reasons, but how did management get involved? Are they auditing or did she escalate?
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>>111116028
So he was the crazed man that lumi told to get help. That's crazy i though it was some random nobody chatter. What was he saying at the end? That him and lumi are going to buy a farm and live in the countryside with 3 kids a dog?
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lumbi
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>>111117654
I think that was the drying paint enjoyer or w/e he's called
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>>111114294
Am I seriously the only one who never felt threatened by him? I want to hear the blue limey's take on this historical footnote.
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>>111123664
Why do you lie? She loved him, more than she loved us.
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>>111123688
If you think Lumi was that into him, then you have a very good reason to not be into Lumi. I would think much less of her if I came in with the objective of grooming, acted accordingly, and made so much headway.
Granted after the oblivion incident, I think she had some good reasons to be spiteful.
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>>111123837
nta but if she didnt like him why would she read 90% of his chats and sound so impressed at his lies?
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I don't even know why SunbrOcean is even a topic of conversation right now
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>>111123837
>Granted after the oblivion incident, I think she had some good reasons to be spiteful.
well that's 100% on her either not having her pc password protected in the bf rrat is true or having her Lumi microslop account logged in on multiple pc if the brother save file scenario is true
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>>111123902
History. It was a massive point of friction. One that I don't have any proper narrative for because apparently I am either autistic, complacent, or missing something. Someone asked, someone replied, I am genuinely curious, so I asked the meta question.
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>>111123925
Chat was found wanting. That was the big take away there. I don't know how onedrive happened but I know it wasn't what it looked like because I trust Lumi not to do something like that to people she cares about. She was sad because that wasn't the consensus.
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>>111124070
>Chat was found wanting
you cant fault people for going to the most obvious conclusion instead of jumping though hoops to justify it
>I don't know how onedrive happened
you basically need to have 2 pcs signed in with the same microslop account and both the game and onedrive to update in between the time of her saving then laoding again
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>>111124391
>Can't fault for most obvious
It was certainly the most obvious take on her actions. But the cognitive dissonance kicked in the second it had to be weighed against intentions. That had to be resolved before condemnation.
The true outrage, objectively, would be her selling fake reps to people who needed them. Absolutely disgusting behavior from someone who could make the money elsewhere.
So which was more likely? Decent Lumi mindset plus hoop jumping actions against obvious actions and evil Lumi. For me at least, as hard as the technical fuckery would be to explain. Accusing her of intentionally sabotaging so many people for cash easily earned elsewhere? A crime in itself.
I admit it would be harder now to address things in such abstract terms but I do not know how else we could go about assessing a situation comensurate with the amount of rage that it could trigger.
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In plain English it's more likely she's lying about it but we can at least afford her the benefit of the doubt, I'm actually investigating the circumstances surrounding it right now
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>>111125043
>would be her selling fake reps
like she did with the kabukicho thing? years of her telling stories about how she hates being approached in public to the point of even buying a fake engagement ring then trying to gaslight people on stream that wanting to be approached is a 100% Lumi thing
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>>111123902
Because SunbrOcean did what no other gumi did: made Lumi smile.
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>>111125134
In the exact way she described it, it is fundamentally unverifiable and idk how someone would accidentally come up with it while sounding like a tall tale.

Evidence against:
>No shader compilation on launch.
>No initial difficulty setting/brightness adjustment - it was set to Expert when she launched it.
>Very specific OneDrive/Microsoft Account setup.
I don't imagine Lumi choosing Expert difficulty for a game she knows nothing about without being coaxed into it.
Some shader compilation would have carried over and likely caused problems through onedrive, but the local NVIDIA specific drivers would have had to have been compiled. And that possibly can't have happened in under 3min, and she managed to get the game running in under 40seconds. Disregarding anything else about onedrive nonsense this is the strongest piece of evidence against that to my knowledge hasn't been addressed.
Evidence for:
>Most hollow explanation that somehow addresses all points at the same time
>Initial game setup
>Discord
The explanation sounds really bad, but if you examine it closely it's about the only explanation that can address everything that happened. But the behavior around the vod and off the cuff handling of the situation suggests poor planning and poor management.
The game was set to Expert, but the music volume hadn't been touched, this is anecdotal but I have never in my life met anyone that was a gamer that did not turn down music volume to 40-60% at least. Or even touched Master Volume, every audio option available was untouched. Even Lumi the most nongamer of nongamers does some version of this every time she starts a new game. This at the very least makes it likely that she had started and ran the game once to make sure it worked.
Discord by default logs you in automatically and autostarts when you start the PC, I believe Lumi has it on this setting (it's a pain to turn off). The reason I believe it is so is because during Valentine's I noted her being online and did the napkin math to verify if she could in fact read the book she said she read in her stated timeline, yes she could.
Contested:
>Quick-save/Quick-load
This is the only point left, because Oblivion has a Quick-save(F5) and Quick-load(F9) feature, it works by storing a single Quick-save file in the documents folder same as all the others (not in appdata separated by steam accounts and some would suggest). She had started a new game and gone through several areas, autosaving at least once. Now you would think Quick-load would load you in the most recent save file but it does not, it loads in the most recent Quick-save and it is character agnostic. Simply put, if the Quick-save file is there, Quick-load is going to load it regardless if she made a manual save right before or not.
There is a single frame here in the edited vod (pic rel), now unless she was a 5head mega genius and mega retard at the same time there would be other auto saves and manual save games here. Because on opening the Load Save menu you would also see the Quicksave, so if you were covering your tracks and deleting all your local save files that would certainly be one of them. There is however a unique circumstance where this becomes the case. And that is if it's syncing in more save files during gameplay, because the game without exiting to main menu would hold all save files in a cached list, adding and removing them as the player chooses. If Save Files were to be inserted from external sources, these save files would be present but not show up. That's why she exits out while saying "hold on, one second" and notices a bunch of save files that do not belong while in the MAIN MENU. This is why this last point is both the strongest evidence for and against at the same time.
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>>111109539
>oops fell asleep phase of the relationship
>>111123664
he's the type of guy thats a hard counter to foids like a sykkuno for girls who aren't on birth control
it never makes sense and it's always a girl you thought knew better
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>>111126413
did anyone try to replicate it on 2 different PCs? i know someone tried to do it wirh 2 steam users but on the same PC
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>>111127104
It's not a Steam cloud thing, obviously on the same MS-account Onedrive would sync to the same user regardless of PC or local-PC user otherwise Onedrive would be pretty useless. And the game did not separate by Steam users back then at least, it had Steam Cloud sync enabled on the Steamworks side of things but the developers forgot where it actually saved its files so Steam Cloud just didn't work at all. You could transfer save files from one PC to another and run into no issues even if it wasn't played on your Steam account.
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>>111125352
I appreciate you getting the point about reps. Lying about one specific thing while acting normal in other areas conditions people into thinking girl who acts like X doesn't like Y.
In this specific instance, and I know this will feel hollow, but there's a difference between getting cat called on a busy street and cornered for a conversation. The material difference being how there is no need for a reply.
I don't blame you for conflating the two, this is sort of on her imprecise language.
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>>111127533
being approached :(
being approached JAPAN :D
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>>111126413
>>111125134
Anon, nothing good will come of investigating this fact pattern. She basically claimed opsec privilege and said not to worry about it. It isn't anymore robust than any other clumkg alibi. The actus reus goes to the prosecution fighting the batrle there just focuses the jury's attention unduly on whether or not something very suspicious happened.
The turns, as it always has, on mens rea. She was covering something up. Was her intention to hide something bad. Or did was she merely seeking to cover for an embaressment, an opsec breach, or eveb trying to protect us from something? I don't think it's possible to hang out with someome this often and honestly believe her intent was malicious.
It won't get any more definitive than that. Upon reflection, I found it to be plenty robust. But that's your determination to make.
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>>111127652
>blocks your path
>makes noise
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Lumi is mad you guys are doubting her.
https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi
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>>111126848
Huh. That's a little weird given the context of being right there. I'll just chalk it up to a certain internal state rather than external blindness.
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>>111127819
>or eveb trying to protect us from something?
please elaborate on this
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>>111127819
She's never malicious, but I'm also the hopeless cynic she describes
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>>111127882
Cute
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Why do we keep hurting Lumi
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>>111131131
we?
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Lumi likes elves and wants to get a knife ear toggle
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reee Lumi ruined the elf HATE meme.
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STUPID BITCH!!!!!!!!!!
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>>111131683
She's a little slow picking up on chat trying to give her optional shit to work with but she's tired and always a bit too literal.
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>>111131392
Yes, we. We always hurt her knowingly
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>>111133972
I wish it was always deliberate. Nothing is more tedious for everyone than real life dramatic irony.
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shall we worry about the guy who's using Loomi's noises for slop porn?
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>>111136117
>letting a jeet occupy any space in your mind
hm, I think not
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Would Lumi be okay with a Sykkuno situation.
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>>111136710
She pretty much expects it from what she's told us, but she wouldn't want to hear about it have it revealed like that.
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>>111136710
She all but accepted that her brother is seeing women behind her back and not talking to her about it
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>>111137137
If she really has a brother I feel bad for him because she is an actual insufferable cunt. She's fine behind the screen where I cannot throttle her but that's all that is protecting her.
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>>111137215
they live on opposite sides of the country, i think he will be fine
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>>111137215
I think you may benefit from settling down just a tad. I can't exact lecture someone for being parasocial but this sentiment does not a healthy path tread.

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