I Love Lucy

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I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!

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the whiplash from this model + voice combo is unreal

BWC

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uuu

>>111127998
wow very cool op image

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>>111128019

>>111128059
What does Nimi see when she smokes?

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I love Japanese flower fairies

any vtubsters live?

>>111128068
Who wants to see that?
She should Collab with Cotton by having a threesome on stream

>>111128031
comments like that are why she tried rebranding to the big tit jellyfish
then people complained anyways kek

>>111128073
Thanks

>>111128107
i feel like no matter what model she goes with it just won't work. apparently she's re-debuting again soon

>>111128104
Yeah, with me

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Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support

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God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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para is launching the game which is Ultrakill

>>111128133
bitch just aint happy with any setup, I think she was in a micro corpo for a bit too and that also fell through

Everyone should have one online persona and just stick with that forever. You started as a pink cat girl? You're committed. You have to be that 15 years later.

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I wonder which company Kiba is talking about

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>>111128082
An alternative reality where she ended up in niji

>>111128031
I thought I opened /slag/ when I saw this post.

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Alana doesn't seem /objectively/ good but I find her videos addictive and I really want to smash that model

>>111127998
The peptidemaxxed streamers and celebrities we get twenty years from now will be insane compared to these goblins

>>111128165
Why is this woman living in California doing big vtubing work for Filipino wages

>>111128165
This is the fault of the Geega-Weinstein Zaibatsu.

>>111128186
With a hammer. She's scum just like the rest of those weirdos

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https://x.com/Sykkuno/status/2044826656939139144

>>111128165
@grok make me a 4chan plugin that automatically detects discord screenshots and reverses the order of the posts

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>>111128186
Your retarded fox sister is not for sex.

>>111128228
@grok, can you provide us with a tldr

>>111128221
If you swung a hammer you'd snap your wrist, comrade liggerwoman. Chill out.

>>111128231
>Uses catbox as an intermediary file host

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>>111128228
Kill yourself niggerfaggot
Posting twitter screenshots and of drama?
Jump off a bridge 3rd worlder

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She is trying to make the eyes cute and it is not working

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liggers like this?

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free our nigga sykkuno

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>>111128228
brutal

>>111128228
Based gf calling out the whores and dramatubers trying to use her for attention. Hope now we can all agree they need to shut the fuck up playing the victem

>>111128241
"Gomenosorry I love tight wet pussies!"

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>>111128215
She doesn't live in CA. She's vaguely eastern

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Even HalO is laughing at black Snape and the idea that Harry's dad will be racist

>>111128293
bao btfo

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Barbie love!

>>111128241
>I creampied your oshi
>U mad

>>111128228
Good response, fuck the attention whores.

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para gets triggered by krum mogging her every time she dies

>>111128228
@grok
>The man publicly apologized for being unfaithful to his girlfriend, admitting he lied by telling others he was single and expressing deep regret for the hurt caused to her and others. He clarified that some extreme accusations against him are false, asked people to stop sending hate, and announced he would take a break from streaming and the internet to focus on self-improvement and repairing their relationship.
>His girlfriend also shared her message, describing the extreme heartbreak and shock of discovering the infidelity, how her reality felt shattered, and her distress that the situation was made fully public without her consent or input. She noted they were already working on their relationship privately beforehand, emphasized that the public exposure has made healing much harder, and expressed hope that they can eventually heal and focus on personal growth.

violently breeding bat!

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>>111127998

>>111128333
You are a clown simon

Why oshi streams in the morning so I normally don't feel like watching anyone else for the rest of the day.

>>111128404
bao and simon deserve each other

I love Lucy

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>>111128404
to be honest he's becoming more of a bao schizo than a snuffy schizo at this point which is impressive

Bros... Ironmouse's boyfriend just got hit by a freight truck when he was out biking for the IDF. There aren't any clips because they keep getting taken down since PewDiePie called the truck driver a nigger.
I hope he's okay.

>>111128228
somebody should make a list of all the whores involved in this so we know who to hate

Looks like Bat got the last laugh in the end.

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>>111128228
>no one reached out to me to check if i was okay

>>111128400
Is that her KK model? I have great respect for her after she adjusted it to have a more accurate nipple color.

>>111128228
Imagine some random autists doing an exposé on your boyfriend cheating on you, but they didn't even talk to you about it, and then they leak your identity. As promiscuous and weaselly as Sykkuno is, the people who organized the docky really shit the bed

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK9Jrld1N38

what vod should i listen to when i mow later

>>111128464
yeah, feel really bad for madi. even more so seeing she chose to stay with him, doubt he will change

>>111128457
Plenty of people did reach out to her, just not the ones involved in making the docky

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>>111128238
that's why we rape her

>>111128473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VykXCqknRr0

>>111128228
>"I cannot allow false accusations and such extreme labels to be placed on me"
>doesn't clarify any false accusations
also "working on the relationship" after he jumped into every barely legal vtubers DMs!? just dump him for gods sake

>>111128333
Shut the fuck up Simon

>>111128228
>With time I hope everyone can focus on healing and being better versions of themselves.
Grimmi school of thought

>>111128413
Who is your oshi? Maybe I can recommend some similar chuubas

>>111128441
Notice how the snuffy/3am shitposts magically dried up?

>>111128484
right so the people that chose to make this a public show forgot about the actual victim in this

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Pidward (Piller Squidward) and Siwwo (Squidward Piwwo)

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this is fascinating. i can't stop watching

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>>111128504
They've called him everything from a rapist to a pedophole and then claim it was willing and a 19 year old so I don't think he has to

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>>111128496

whyyyyy
wat do u meeean

>>111128524
actual goblins that just wanted clout in the end

>>111128228
That whore has a girlfriend? Dropped.

>>111128457
What did niggerax mean by this

>>111128228
>I never wanted this to be public
>It deeply hurts me that I wasn't given a choice in that, or even just warned that this would be happening at all
>I didn't want this
>Even after the fact, I wish they would have at least checked in on me or asked me how I felt about everything, but I haven't heard anything from the people involved since this all came out
Why did Bao do it? Didn't even contact the girlfriend and decided to try and ruin her relationship.

>>111128464
I didn't read the doc myself but wasn't there a part where they talked to his girlfriend in discord about all of this?!

>>111127998
That's just Misoshita.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3sSZyv_1xk

>>111128568
bao only cares about herself

Quick, someone post the cracker enjoyer soundpost

>>111128567
>>111128524

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>>111128551
ironic

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>>111128228
Okay, how hung is this guy? There's no way a normal, self-respecting person would see that he fucked half of the entire vtuber/e-girl population and come away thinking, "Oh, we still need to work on our relationship and communication."

>replying to simon
newfaggot

i love moriko and i am not ashamed to admit that as i am a retard

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Bwlyat!

>>111128575
Bao connected the girlfriend with women that Sykkuno was cheating on her with, two of them being Hemomal and Elfilea who organized the docky. I guess they never told her about it

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I'm starting to think that maybe /lig/german just wants everyone else to be equally alone and miserable.

>>111128575
It's the part where she leaves because she couldn't stomach seeing the evidence. But obviously they didn't inform her they were going to take it public/doc it.

>>111128568
kill yourself simonpagpag

>>111128575
She never gave her permission to be in the dockey and they poorly censored her name so everyone knew who it was.

ligger most likely to fuck dirty fat old men raw for money?

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>>111128624
i want to consume the blood of the innocent so yeah kind of

>>111128288
what is this website

>>111128575
They told her her bf was hitting on them but not that they were going to do an entire public thing

>>111128638
You.

>>111128638
muwa

>>111128482
>>111128504
>>111128547
I think the "false accusations" thing is about the semantic argument surrounding the word "predator", which I don't think automatically means pedophile because we have the phrase "child predator", and a 34 year old man does have a blatant social advantage over 19 year old women. But yeah, I don't see this relationship working out long term considering this is the second time that Sykkuno has been confronted for cheating on her. Sykkuno might be telling the truth when he says that she's dependent on him, or she might just be scared of the idea of being alone

I am watching para and miaelou. I'm french arthoe foidmaxxing

>>111128616
Privyet ligga

>>111128660
yeah, but at least she only has herself to blame for staying with him. but the cheating and making it public, I still feel bad for her for that

Still can't get over how many chuubas willingly came out to publicly announce that they fucked the guy. Wild shit.

>>111128450
One of the most recent ones was some girl who agreed to stay in a hotel room with him (alone), watch a movie with him (alone), didn't say no to his advances, gave him a blowjob, had sex with him the next morning, and, when asked if he could nut inside her, said yes, all by her own admission/story. Just put her at the top of your list and the rest of it doesn't matter.

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Krum's stream died but she's back now
https://www.twitch.tv/krumroll

>>111128660
I'm willing to bet all the girls going "omg he was so pushy and tried to force me" are also making it up because everything weve seen has been the girls throwing themselves at him

>>111128628
Not everyone is Simon. Bao did a shitty thing to her. Got her into contact with those girls and then never followed up that there would be a dockey or anything.

>>111128643
Why do you worship demons?

>>111128605
eh he's literally one of the most successful internet entertainers in his age group (keep in mind the gf has been with him for a while and is probably around mid 30s) also the situation was blown out of proportion he only fucked a few of them and the rest was semi casual flirting

>>111128660
>and a 34 year old man does have a blatant social advantage
What an impressively retarded take.

>>111128638
Zuma

>>111128660
I agree about the predator thing, but you can't say you want to right false accusations, and then never mention what these accusations were, or why they were wrong

>>111128714
Why would she know about them writing a dockey? You are completely assuming that based on nothing but her retweeting the initial tweet

>>111128660
hi bao

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>>111128716
I worship nothing

>>111128605
Do you think the concubines of Genghis Khan were also mad?

>>111128701
You can assume it's a very similar story for all the rest of them too

>>111128643
cringe

>>111128624
i want the vtuber lady on my screen to love me exclusively

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>>111128707
yayyy

>>111128288
What a fucking whore
>yea i fucked sykkuno
>holy shit i need to pay to see your body

>>111128228
If my oshi was one of the dramatubers that contributed to the dockey or the coordinated cancelation attempt for clout I'd drop them. No one involved in that mess besides the girlfriend seemed like good people.

>>111128720
>he only fucked a few of them and the rest was semi casual flirting
This is 100% pulled out of your own ass

>>111128722
You don't think that someone with 15 more years of life experience and at least one long term relationship that he's been cheating on has a better understanding of what to do and say in order to get people to quietly do what he wants (sex)?

>>111128778
Probably more that nobody knew she existed before, then they saw all her barely clothed pics all over her twitter when they looked at the drama

>>111128741
>Why would she know about them writing a dockey?
>Gets all parties involved when she could of talked to Madi in private

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>>111128792
Your coping keeps getting more elaborate

>>111128840
Not everyone has been left behind in life like you have

>>111128605
>how hung
About 3 and a half inches, that’s pretty big for an asian boy

>>111128814
She connected madi with the other girls in a private discord chat. In private. PRIVATE. Which is the opposite of going public on twitter btw

>>111128712
>i never sleep with someone i'm not dating and i always use protection
>so i was fucking sykkuno and he came inside me

>>111128846
Keep digging

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>>111128741
Maybe, but it seems more likely that she knew about it, or at some point did. At least that's my guess

He had a leak viewership of 60 000, some of the women he fucked had a view count of less than 60. That's a 1000k factor difference, he has a massive advantage over those women. Imagine a man that's 20000 years old fucking a 20 year old

>>111128814
Madi clearly doesn't have mental fortitude to do anything as shown by her staying with him after all this. Bao just wanted this to stop and protect future victims. Tldr you are a retard.

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>>111128228
The queen has spoken

meh

>>111128885
KEK

>>111128854
and then bao signal blasted it by retweeting and getting everyone in whore clan to follow the three girls. do you think numi and yuzu followed them for fun?

>>111128457
Re-read. She says at the top many people checked to make sure she was doing okay, it's that nobody checked with her if it was okay to drop a google doc nuke on her relationship

i wish i was sykkuno

>>111128885
Like Geega?

Some weirdo keeps bumping the Nina thread despite it being for her Tuesday stream and not her Wednesday stream...

>check x of that cheating drama vtuber sluts
>not a single pic of her full vtuber model, barely of the model at all
>dozens of naked irl pics
that's not a vtuber

>>111128890
>Bao knows better
>Fuck Madi she didn't do the right thing according to me
Fuck off Bao's mod

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>>111128814
Bao at least knew about the docky because they wouldn't have gotten a screenshot of this private DM between her and the girlfriend otherwise

>>111128879
Eh it's up in the air kinda. But I will say that giving it visibility by retweeting the initial tweet to her much larger twitter following was a major dick move against madi

>>111128900
read the above sentence

>>111128897
Inb4 the indians spam their blacked slop to counter genuine powdur posts

>>111128890
If Bao wanted this to stop and protect future victims she would've done something a long time ago

>>111128901
She isn't owed anything like that.

>>111128897
the fire rises

>>111128864
She only bothered to ask him if he was seeing anyone after the fact, but also she's hard of hearing or whatever that somehow prevented her from asking again what it was he said instead of saying "Yes, you can spray it all inside me" so victim status, I guess.

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Me and my two sisterwives

>>111128897
the one time a grifter says something worthwhile

>>111128789
correct i do not actually care lmao

>>111128928
There isn't a single genuine thing about that blown out chud cumdumpster

>>111128897
I'm still confused what Bao's involvement is in all this. I think that's because if I see a big paragraph about this situation and Bao is brought up I naturally believe it's a schizo.

>>111128897
BASED WHITE QUEEN

ELF WIFE ELF WIFE ELF WIFE

>>111128926
Good observation

>>111128897
Nasty women *sharp inhale* I took at twitter now X and I said wow these are nasty women

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>>111128228
>>111128897

>>111128926
but that's a screenshot of a DM sent to bao by the dockey author, not a screenshot of a message bao sent to madi

>>111128954
can I wife this thing?

I want to breed Filian /lig/

>>111128934
>Actually, it's the victim's fault and she has no say

This is why Bao said she was going to start streaming less

it's too easy to troll vtubers and for what? to be hated?!

>>111128988
who's that? some dead ligger?

>>111128692
They acted like he had vampire hypnosis charms and were literally powerless to resist his cringe discord flirting.

>>111128897
What did she mean by this?
https://x.com/powdury/status/2044150669645345141

>>111128981
no?

>>111128966
Bao's involvement comes in two parts:
>The GF approached Bao about her vague male tweet and asked if it was about Sykkuno, so Bao offered to connect the GF with the women he was fucking
And this >>111128926

>>111128981
No, read the line with the blue hyperlink in it. That's the girlfriend asking Bao about her vague male streamer tweet

>>111128966
she is the biggest name attached to the anti-sykkuno side, so if you want to get a lot of impressions, you mention her name

>>111128751
You worship yourself ya gay satanist

>>111128991
I never said that. I said she isn't owed anything like that. Her shit isn't private privileged information, there's no NDA, and she isn't special.

>>111129013
>>111129027
or rather a DM madi sent to bao. i guess i'm retarded. but yeah that does kinda mply bao was aware of them putting this together

>>111129009
vcuck slop, don’t click

>>111128966
She was a flame stoker, which if we talk about sykkuno having a lot of influence the same applies to bao, any time she retweets something it gets shoved in front of her audience, and drama shit happens constantly so why did this warrant her stamp of approval?

>>111128986
Yes, in game and in real

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>>111128897
I knew I liked the pointy ear chuuba

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https://www.twitch.tv/limealicious

powdur please stop mindfucking the liggermen, they've been extra sensitive since going on the hrt

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>>111129033
nuh uh i hate being alive!

>>111128379
Krum was also going pistol only (its small like her so it must be good)

>>111129038
she's a non public figure, she has a reasonable expectation of privacy in her life and saying otherwise is horseshit.

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>>111129040
Seems like it. The gf just got fucked over in every way possible.

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>>111129069

>>111128890
Baos mad he didn't see her as a keeper
Madi doesn't think she could do as good or better if they split

>>111129040
I mean those 3 had this shit planned for a while
And the funny part if they had said something like "serial cheater" instead of predator none of this drama would have happened lol

>>111128901
The way I read it her friends checked up on her, but none of the people involved in the dockey checked up on her.

>>111129074
The buck break train stops for no one

>>111129038
>>111128934
>arax siding with the whores
isn't meat your oshi? madi's one of her best friends. maybe meat should ban your ass so her friend feels comfortable in her chat.

>>111129083
You're not the brightest bulb huh

>>111128897
Don't know who Mal is. But Bao and Mujin will have mental breakdowns over this.

>>111129100
Predator is an accurate term, it doesn't mean pedophile and I haven't seen any of the girls imply it as such

People are really acting like most men don't cheat.

>>111129117
Whatever you say Simon

>>111129096
sex on ass

>>111129122
Hi Mujin

>>111129122
One of the girls at first said she was 17/18. You don't say that unless you want to lean on the being 17 aspect.

>>111129118
NTA but it's common decency

>>111129038
And not telling someone you have a partner when you flirt with them is also not illegal, utherwose all the liggers would be in jail.

>>111129132
how can i cheat when i dont have gf... let alone 2...

>>111129132
>A woman with cancer or other serious illness is six times more likely to be separated or divorced soon after receiving her diagnosis than a male patient.
smdh @ men

>>111129092
yeah true and that should be what people shoulöd be focusing on, but we have a lot of retards that just want to scream about their preconceived grievances with anyone involved with this in any capacity

>>111129009
stop being indian

If you want me to give a shit about any of this drama, you’re gonna have to show me this guy’s penis. Let’s see what all the hoopla is about.

>>111129132
i mean yeah that's what all this stupid shit is about everyone acting like they're the ones who are pure and monogamous

especially fucking bao who makes a living telling multiple men to jerk off to her and pay her for it

>>111129122
This lawyer guy disagrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD4nFNslJhQ

I can't see Madi as anything but an enabler after that tweet.

>>111129181
That's because the women who are already cancerous don't get men in the first place

>>111129179
That's why you don't have 1, half the men have 2

>>111129181
that's ok she can just become a vtuber like mouse

>>111129179
He said men not males

>>111128970
Shes not white shes asian

>>111129132
Post tits sis

>>111129190
What if I told you I don't have one?

>>111129181
Silent Hill 2 is real?

>>111129194
>legoyl mindset

>>111129164
That's nice, but not a requirement.
The only unfortunate thing is having her relationship status revealed. That's all.

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>>111129069
>no days off
bitch's work ethic is crazy

>>111129194
That guy worships Shondo

>>111129199
Nah women who date bad men never enable them and think they can fix them.

it reeks of foid trying to defend her shitty behavior in this thread

>>111129194
Who cares what that cringe chud thinks?

>>111129215
Sykkuno in the /lig/gie

>>111129223
indie green superior to corpo green?

>>111128228
So now what? Will bao and the other dumbasses about to eat it?

>>111128897
I'm just waiting for another schizo post from mujin. That last one was funny.

>>111129222
>having her relationship status revealed
I don't think that's her issue, dude. Why would she care about that? I'm assuming it was Sykkuno who wanted to keep a lid on it so he could sleep with more women

This guy is right, though >>111129176

>>111129223
she... plays video games...

vibe check

https://poal.me/3mcfko
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https://poal.me/3mcfko

>>111128482
Who is madi does she have an online presence

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Get an oshi who doesn’t give a shit about drama

>>111129223
you won't be having any days off in bed with Limes either

>>111129027
I see how your post correlates with the image you linked but I can't seem to make sense of the part where the 2view gets in touch with Bao and whatever happens next. Like basically in the most anti-Bao stance I could make, she was vagueposting on twitter for good girl points (even though she claims she's twitter free and her managers run it) and her vagueposting aligns with sykkuno trying to hook up with girls at a con (what every male streamer does btw).
That's like me saying
>don't let your guard down around fatties
then Arax eats your lunch, so you post
>anon was right about this!
and I take credit for something that has nothing to do with me.
It would also look more credible if the "screencap for proof" wasn't just her first message to Bao with 0 replies.

>>111129199
Madi wants his massive wealth and she's owed it after 5 years

>>111129265
she does some model work for vtubers, also known by other vtubers. people mentioned her being friends with meat, snuffy

>>111129261
I'm saying it's the only issue she has a right to be upset about

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cute cow live!
twitch.tv/milky

We should let me into the vtubing sphere they said
Women should be open about their relationships in vtubing they said

>>111129199
Madi knows shes the wife and the rest are side pieces

>>111129262
yeah crazy, some chuubas don't even do that

>>111129270
>even though she claims she's twitter free and her managers run it
lol

>>111129263
how am i gonna cheat if no women would ever touch me

>>111129262
she's at video games

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>>111129304
NTA but

>>111129263
Yes I cheat on my oshi all the time

>>111128228
nice going bao, guess backstabbing sinder unlocked a thirst to harass innocent vtubers in her

>>111129270
>even though she claims she's twitter free and her managers run it
that hasn't been true since the manager that ran it also scammed her

>>111129297
tru tru

>>111129308
Are you one of those people that don't understand what a hypothetical is?

>>111128897
grifters gonna grift

>>111129263
okay so follow up questions for you people answering nah

why aren't you dating a real woman instead of watching e-girls

>>111129336
simon you are retarded and a cuck. you should kill yourself

>>111129330
I highly doubt her management would post that vague tweet or retweet the docky, if so she obviously requested that. Because why would you ever let your management get involved in stuff like that otherwise?

>>111129278
So no one really knew she was living and dating sykkhuno?

>>111129330
>unless I have a specific request
Did her manager retweet the dockey?

>>111129330
And my penis is made of solid gold

>>111129330
I don't really believe anything the whore clan says. Well, except yuzu and vienna. Those two don't really interact with others that much.

>>111129369
I'm sure some people knew about it, but there's no clear answer to this

>>111129330
I liked when Bao did this at first because she came off as "liberated" and less stressed, but that only lasted a few months. Then she disappears and makes a post about standing at a bridge thinking about jumping off. Mental health is complicated but I would think if she was off social media and just spending time with her friends IRL she wouldn't be so fucked up.

>>111129330
why did she feel the need to mention this in the middle of the night yesterday

>>111129354
My oshi is my wife and I will marry her IRL

>Another day of people pretending to be outraged over high school girl drama
Hopefully the site breaks again

>>111129366
There was a time where Bao was obviously on Twitter again and bickering with people, the thread noticed and pointed out how she was starting to spiral again. Maybe the male tweet was during that time, I'm not sure

>>111129375
That was my thought too

>>111129181
>work full time
>still have to do half the chores
>woman who lives in your house, isn't fucking you, and barely does half the chores, suddenly comes down with a severe, and expensive to treat illness
Yeah, I don't blame them. The cost-performance ratio just isn't there.

>>111129336
This could be one of the most goonable videos this Valentine's!

>>111129263
A more interesting question is what if you were in a position to cheat on your gf with your oshi, but you also had a device that afterwards you use to rewind time so it never happened, she won't remember it and you won't either because it would have never happened. Would you cheat on your gf?

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everybody involved even tangentially in this drama should die except for the gf

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did somebody mention lunch

>>111129354
Dating real women is cheating on my oshi

>>111129434
The gf should die for enabling a cheater

>>111129406
>I'm actually not involved at all and didn't even retweet any of the accusations
>That was all my manager
A bold strategy, let's see if it pays off

>>111129406
Maybe someone confronted her, or she didn't want her audience to worry about any Twitter hate she may be getting

>>111129415
I just don't think a manager would retweet something like that. Unless it's a manager who is more than a manager.

>>111129394
Too late anon, she's permanently fucked and she won't actually do what must be done to fix herself. Everything is now for attention and I'm out of sympathy towards her self-inflicted injuries a long time ago.

>>111129419
If she isn't fucking you before the illness then you're a weak faggot for waiting the illness before leaving

>>111129414
does he also promote safe sex?

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>>111129380
I'm about to strike it rich

>>111129480
this pinker image is kinda cursed

>>111129456
Or she asked them to just retweet people telling their experiences with Sykkuno

>>111129451
See >>111128509

Honestly I just hope the dockey participants get some serious shit for this so it ends the trend of all the big vtubers making dockies and canceling people for clout so they have to make actual content and stream.

>>111129504
Maybe. But what's the difference? It's all the same, no? She knew about what was happening?

>>111129514
this won't end shit

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liggers like this?

Hot take, we should rangeban southeast Asia and nuke twitter drama posts on sight

>>111129391
I think Vienna's reaction to what happened with the Sinder drama was so... pure, and genuine. Like she was sad it happened and all the relationships breaking but she was mostly just sad and crying because her friend was getting ripped up by the drama crowds and that she had to go through all of that. Also she didn't use the cliche of
>I thought I knew her but she was secretly really evil!
which would've been really cringe and melodramatic.
For this I give Veener the pass that she's going to be genuine about other things she talks about in the future.