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>The Dyatlov Pass incident was an event in which nine Soviet ski hikers died in the northern part of the Ural Mountains ridge in the Russian SFSR of the Soviet Union on 1 or 2 February 1959 under undetermined circumstances. The experienced trekking group from the Ural Polytechnical Institute, led by Igor Dyatlov, went on a hike of the highest difficulty level at that time, and had established a camp on the eastern slopes of Kholat Syakhl mountain. Overnight, the group cut their way out of their tent by knives and fled the campsite, inadequately dressed for the heavy snowfall, strong winds and extreme cold temperatures as low as −40 °C (−40 °F).
>After the group's bodies were discovered, an investigation by Soviet authorities determined that six of them had died from hypothermia while the other three had been killed by physical trauma. One victim had major skull damage, two had severe chest trauma, and another had a small crack in his skull. Four of the bodies were found in May 1959 lying in running water in a creek, and three of them had damaged soft tissue of the head and face – two of the bodies had missing eyes, one had a missing tongue, and one had missing eyebrows. The investigation concluded that a "compelling natural force" (elemental force) had caused the deaths.
>Another group of hikers (about 50 kilometres (31 mi) south of the incident) reported that they saw strange orange spheres in the sky to the north on the night of the incident. Similar spheres were observed in Ivdel and adjacent areas continually during the period from February to March 1959, by various independent witnesses (including the meteorology service and the military).
Thoughts?
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I see it one of two ways, either they
1. got cattally mutilated by aliens
or 2. rogue EMFs twisted their brains up and made them go feral.
I'm not saying everything else is cope but it kind of is.
They had their supplies hoisted up off the ground so they were probably sensing some sort of animal presence as well.
Luca was the eviscerated russian; almost folded in half hotdog style from being split open. arms curled up and shrunken.
he was a baseball player too.
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all of these cases are same and have the same weird factor that makes the skeptic arguements hard to believe. Yuba County 5 was similar as was the Khamar Daban incident in which people clawed at their faces and bled from their orifices but the unifying aspect in all of this is the seeming sudden onset of insanity and the overlap with cattle mutes
I'm willing to accept more fringe explanations like chemical exposure but honestly I think there is something in those mountains that is self aware and can be very hostile
These incidents really get shilled against hard despite their obscurity
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>>42201562
> Don’t go up into those mountains. They’re not the kinda mountains you wanna be goin to. Guess there’s no stopping you if you made up your mind, though.
All the skeptical explanations I’ve heard for this sound like absolute bullshit. Usually “there was a mini avalanche” or something about Russian soldiers killing them. This is one of the few incidents that I think might be a true mystery. Even the locals are like “oh yeah don’t go up there”
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>>42202279
I believe there were either sound weapon (Havana Syndrome - like) or strange fairy like infrasounds involved
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>>42202279
>I think there is something in those mountains that is self aware and can be very hostile
Yeah sure. Like humans?
>>42204528
Sound, directed energy weapons, EMF weapons, chemicals...
Many human stuff that could generate these behavior. Seen the movie cell with Samuel L Jackson, or recently, the movie we bury the dead. Soft disclosure.
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>>42209764
That happens. Bears have ripped the face off people without killing them. Or mauled them without eating them. Bears can act in an emotional way. Like if he is angry, not necessarily hungry, or prefer other meat, he will kill without eating. Wolfs on the other hand eat their prey.
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>>42201736
This.
https://badaliens.info/human-mutilations/
nr 2 is case is Dyatlov Pass Incident
Really scary stuff.
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>>42201562
i heared that if you were to read all the files (also the still disclosed ones), all is explained but one question remains: "Who is in that grave?"
i am really interested...
it is called by the locals "don't go there". and their warriors also avoid this region.
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>>42209717
Time to remove your version of reality.
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>>42213850
>Dyatlov Pass
Nobody really knows, it's one of those "mysteries" that is accompanied with so much disinformation that even the KGB archives are probably not enough to crack it completely.
I've studied this thoroughly and the more you research this incident, the more disinformation is thrown into your face.
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>>42214205
A few things I can tell for certain:
1. There are areas in Russia, vast unexplored areas, where they do not log the forest, they do not mine the resources there, they do not go camping there. Nobody knows why, nobody is supposed to know why. All we can do is speculate, at best.
Dyatlov incident happened in that area, even satellite imagery to that place is completely foggy.
2. When the KGB research, whose job is to normalize every incident, says it was a "natural force" aka avalanche or a fear of a wind that sounds unnatural, it points to completely classified russian military projects, not even KGB has access to those, they are not supposed to.
3. When an incident is accompanied by a huge amount of different crazy theories, it's supposed to muddy the waters to the point where nothing makes sense and you get tired just by thinking about it because it comes to the point where everything is possible, you are supposed to think this.
4. Near that area, there were supposedly some "military exercises", nobody knows the details.
5. Dyatlov pass hikers were all extremely experienced snow trackers, and I mean extremely. Highly educated, very, very fit people, with a really high psychological tolerance to stress. These people did weeks of hiking in snowy taiga for weeks.
And they all died in extremely mysterious circumstances.
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>>42209848
So you are telling bear could break their bones by just hitting them with paw not even opening their body cavity?
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>An examination of the four bodies found in May shifted the narrative of the incident. Three of the hikers had fatal injuries: Thibeaux-Brignolles[20] had major skull damage, and Dubinina and Zolotaryov had major chest fractures.[21] According to Boris Vozrozhdenny, the force required to cause such damage would have been extremely high, comparable to that of a car crash. Notably, the bodies had no external wounds associated with the bone fractures, as if they had been subjected to a high level of pressure.[18]
>All four bodies found at the bottom of the creek in a running stream of water had soft tissue damage to their head and face. For example, Dubinina was missing her tongue, eyes, part of the lips, as well as facial tissue and a fragment of skullbone,[22] while Zolotaryov had his eyeballs missing,[23] and Aleksander Kolevatov his eyebrows.[24] V. A. Vozrozhdenny, the forensic expert performing the post-mortem examination, judged that these injuries happened post-mortem because of the location of the bodies in a stream
And yes bears are strong but I strongly (hehe) doubt they have the power of car crash
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>>42202549
>Usually “there was a mini avalanche”
ASnd why is this being discounted?
An avalanche would explain the crushing pressure injuries with no external damage.
It would explain why they cut their way out of the tents and travel off without gear.
The only thing not explained are the missing body parts, which could easily be post-mortem (as the autopsy says) by scavengers.
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>>42213850
It was the wind guys.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221024211916/https://dyatlovpass.com/dea th
Takes a while for it to load, but link works.
Ponder this: Yuri Krivonischenko, 23.
Amount of urine was 150 cm3. This volume is smaller than what it would be expected in case of death by hypothermia. The body was still making efforts to fight the freezing at the time of death. The hypothermic death cases have significantly more urine in the bladder (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov). The foamy grey fluid that was found on the right cheek of the deceased started the speculations that before death someone or something was pressing on his chest cavity. This forceful method was common for interrogation by the NKVD (Stalin's Secret Police) and Special Forces. The cause could also be a nasty fall from a tree. This aspect was ignored in the final papers, that read cause of death: hypothermia.
Experts described the injuries - bruises and abrasions, as non-life threatening and explained them with Doroshenko hitting himself in rocks and ice, and other surrounding objects, in the state of agony. Death, according to the file, occurred 6-8 hours after the last meal.
If you read the fates of all these, one thing is without question. They did NOT want to go back to the tent for warmth, shelter, or clothes. They rather hide under a Cedar tree, a cliff, then go back to their tent and try to repair it.
And what could have caused that, Gentlemen?
"Another group of hikers 31 miles south of the incident reported that they saw strange orange spheres in the sky to the north on the night of the incident. Similar spheres were observed in Ivdel and adjacent areas continually during the period from February to March 1959, by various independent witnesses (including the meteorology service and the military). These sightings were not noted in the 1959 investigation, and the various witnesses came forward years later."
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>>42213850
"a strange harvest" by linda moulton howe
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6362274/
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>>42216645
https://web.archive.org/web/20221024211916/https://dyatlovpass.com/dea th
"Dubinina was laying on a kind of a natural ledge with water rolling over it. Her mouth was open. There are claims that the tongue was ripped, or eaten, or whatnot. The medical records simply that "the tongue is missing". Vozrozhdenny describes missing hypoglossal muscle as well as muscles of the floor of the mouth.
It looks weird especially given the fact previous bodies had more detailed autopsies. There is no credible explanation for this vague statement. It is noted that the stomach contained about 100 g of dark brown mucosal mass [ed. - often misquoted as coagulated blood]. It is used by some as an indication that the heart was beating and the blood was flowing when tongue was removed from a mouth. The cause of death is stated as hemorrhage into right atrium of the heart, multiple fractured ribs and internal bleeding."
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1. They were experienced taiga hikers. Before making camp you make sure there is no risk of an avalanche.
2. Look at were they were positioned on google maps - not even a hill, like a 2-3 metre slope, almost 0 chance of anything resembling an avalanche.
3. KGB archived photos show you the tents, the setup, the entire surrounding, 0 chance of an avalanche.
They weren't on a mountain, it was like a small hill with a slight slope.
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>>42217568
>1. They were experienced
Experienced people die in avalanches all the time. Mistakes and freak events happen.
>2. Look at were they were positioned
A better disproval, but I think you severely underestimate how far an avalanche can travel.
What is the topography of the area?
>3. KGB archived photos show you the tents, the setup, the entire surrounding
In what size area? Avalanches can travel for hundreds of meters.
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>>42217603
The avalanche theory had been proven to be false many times, by many experts, the videos and materials are freely available to you.
They all ran into different directions without shoes, three of them were brutally murdered and left to die in the snow by giving them severe blows to the body causing massive internal bleeding.
In the same year 4 KGB high position officers/ leaders were demoted to shitty positions, this was something that was never seen before.
Stick the avalanche theory up your pussy, I'm not gonna spoonfeed you the entire story, fagget.
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>>42217638
>The avalanche theory had been proven to be false many times, by many experts
Okay. Can you link these testimonies?
And I take it you have no way to show or link to the topography either.
Why do you think there was no slope capable of an avalanche?
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>>42217638
Fucking Based
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>>42217672
Okay so you have nothing to back up what you are saying.
So to me, most likely is they were hit with an avalanche.
Maybe those orange balls caused it, since they likely had no reason to suspect one in the area if what you say is correct.
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>Now we know The Snowman exists
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>>42217684
A slope of 2 degrees angle, and you unironically think that the strange orange orbs sent a fucking avalanche at them instead of harvesting 2 of them. Straight back to Rddit with you.
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>>42217660
Dyatlov incident is one of those mysteries that literally has the biggest amount of disclosed information about it available online, even the russian side of the story has been translated to english.
Instead of using google maps, or google, or any other OSINT possible, you ask me to spoonfeed you direct links and testimonies, including autopsies and veteran KGB testimonials that were translated.
This is not how this works, you massive fucking retarded faggot.
DO
YOUR
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RESEARCH
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FUCK
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>>42209821
>citing hollywood movies as "proof" of a claim
Retard.
>>42217776
>no I won't post sources, r/4chan told me that was spoonfeeding and you should use increasingly shitty search engines to probably not find anything
Double retard.
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I listened to the whole 4 hours in the two videos with Teddy. What I don't get from her theory is how come they took the tent and some of the bodies and then brought all of it back. And brought all the stuff in the tent and put it back in? If the tent stayed and only the bodies were moved, then how come it's on top? I thought it was stupid to pitch it on the top with all the wind. If the tree fell on the tent, how come it's not destroyed? I don't think a tree falling on a tent only does a cut as damage while hitting the people. If the tree fell on them when they were outside the tent, and the tent was pitched on top to make a place from where to signal for help, why is the tent cut?
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>>42218541
Just a quick reminder that your soul needs urgently: you are a fucking nobody, you are less than a zero.
For you to come here and ask for anything, let alone for somebody to prove anything to you, because you lack the intellectual capacity to do it yourself is insulting at it's core. To you. To yourself.
You are the generation of: "@grok is this real?"
lololol
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Thank you for conceding and admitting you have no proof to back up your assertions. Have a shitty day, faggot.
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>>42218629
I'm a skeptic myself, but to be completely honest you do come off as a completely insufferable massive faggot.
I do believe if a real alien took a shit down your throat while a Sasquatch was anally raping you, you would contact your local authority to ask if it was real or just your imagination.
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>>42218537
The tent is cut from the inside be because of fear. They wanted to leave the tent, really fast.
They did not go back to the tent.
Consider this:
They feared what could happen to them going back to the tent, more then the reality of freezing to death.
"It is noted that the stomach contained about 100 g of dark brown mucosal mass [ed. - often misquoted as coagulated blood]. It is used by some as an indication that the heart was beating and the blood was flowing when tongue was removed"
Video clipp is of man made craft.
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>make claim
>refuse to back it with evidence
>throw a tantrum and samefag to avoid presenting any evidence
>out yourself as a tourist by complaining about the oldest 4chan tradition of all time i.e. reaction images
So simply enough, there is no evidence backing any of the claims being made and people are supposed to waste time in a search engine looking for things that are not there.
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>>42219145
You've been monitoring this thread non-stop for days now. You sit here all day posting reaction images asking people to prove something to you.
Bro, just go outside, breathe some fresh air, talk to a girl, go for a jog, no wonder you don't have any friends, you fucking idiotic nigger.
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>>42217736
>A slope of 2 degrees angle
You never gave anything to accept this,. and a flat terrain only means to me the avalanche traveled.
>>42217776
>the biggest amount of disclosed information about it available online
So it should be easy to post. Plenty of other info was posted.
>you ask me to spoonfeed you
I have no issue thinking there was an avalanche.
You need to give why you dont think so, and jhust saying "look at the terrain" is wrong becuase you dont seem to understand how avalanches work.
You dont know how far away a slope can be to kill with one, so you wouldnt know what to look for.
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>>42219391
>KGB's official explanation: avalanche
>Guys, it was it was an avalanche, okay?
>Guys, prove it to me really hard that it wasn't an avalanche, otherwise I am siding with the KGB
Stupid nigger, the russian KGB is ridiculed by their own population. It's historically known to be the biggest liar from all three letter agencies as far as public discourse goes.
Believe whatever you want you goddamn aborted fetus.
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>>42219437
>KGB's official explanation: avalanche
I didnt know that. That only means they agree with me.
> the russian KGB is ridiculed by their own population.
And you just accept that, eh? Who told you not to trust the KGB? The US? The russians I spoke to seem to think they arent the worst out there.
What I believe is that you are mad at being questioned, but have no way to actually support what you say.
>>42219453
>There are literally no mountains around Dyatlov pass.
Then how is it a pass?
Do you know what a pass is?
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>>42219522
>you should not speak on it as you are authority
I havent.
I asked why an avalanche couldnt explain it, and for a map of the surrounding area.
I was told an answer that does not disprove an avalanche, and then people got really mad that I asked a question they cant or wont answer.
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>>42219453
Ya'll niggas replying to an actual glowie shill, that's monitoring this thread 24/7. xD
Anyway, to all anons interested in this, the one thing I love about russians, besides being russian myself. Is that we have a deep-seated mistrust in our own KGB, because historically we know for a fact the main job of KGB was always to "cover-up" a story, this was done so that the government would never be put in a "negative" floodlight, hehe.
Anyway, as distrusting as we russians are, you have to know some facts:
The dyatlov pass students/athletes had a lot of friends, who would not fall for the state sponsored propaganda, like that little fagget shill of ours shitting up this thread. ;)
so here goes:
https://dyatlovpass.com/cameras
read and weep, my nignog americana frens.
THEY
WERE
MURDERED
It was done so well, and professionally, that KGB was embarassed and could not figure out who did it.
Fact 1 - the 9 murdered people saw something they should not
Fact 2 - all of there boots were outside in the snow, all bundled together, whilst they should have been near the stove inside the tent
Fact 3 - They were driven out of the tent by someone, without shoes, idea was to make them freeze to death because russian snow shoes valenkas, as they are called, are absolutely vital to survival in winter, without them, even if you have fire or clothes, you are dead 100%
I could go on and on, but there are even books written about it, and yes, there are on YOUTUBE official testimonies of ex-KGB veterans saying it was a cover-up of murders.
The cover-up was to make it look like an avalanche because the inability to find out the real killers was a public shame on russias name the KGB could NEVER allow.
The more you know.
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>>42219557
Furthermore, the strongest member of the group, through autopsy finding, had an extremely severe head trauma to the side of the head, the temple.
He was knocked unconscious by something EXTREMELY STRONG, and precise, as he was hit on the side of the head ONLY.
Two members climbed a tree and stayed there until they could no longer hang on, as freezing limbs stop working after awhile, and they fell down and froze to death.
The most vocal communist woman had her eyes cut out of her eye sockets and her tongue cut out, while she was alive, autopsy shows coagulated blood in her abdomen, meaning she was alive while something was cutting her face open, with extreme surgical precision.
Other member had more experience, he managed to make a special forces (spetznas) type of a shelter in the show and made a fire.
He was found dead with extreme trauma to the body and was left with internal bleeding to freeze to death.
I could go on and go on, honestly. but at this point it's easier to copy paste lol
xD
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>>42219574
https://dyatlovpass.com/controversy
Really, it's a fascinating story, even after the fall of the soviet union our KGB veterans spoke out that it was a cover-up of a counterintelligence operation gone wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9c4vOQK3Gk
Translations are lacking but they say CIA/america did it, after saying the avalanche story was to make the public quiet and not talk about it, but too many facts in the later years came out to disprove the story so they later went with CIA did it.
You see, one of the dyatlov pass hikers, was a KGB counterintelligence spy, they met with a diferent group, called group B, after things went to shit, group B camee back and murdered them all staging it as an "avalanche" gone wrong XD
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>>42219590
Even better, in soviet union in year 1959-1960, something extraordinary happened.
4 extremely high ranking KGB officers of different regions were demoted to absolute trash positions without an explanation, this was INSANE, this was unheard of of, because you usually got 1 weird demotion in 5 years.
This time it was 4, in ONE YEAR. with no explanation whatsoever.
This in later years was explained by inability or complete failure against the western counterparts. xD
Really, this story goes so deep and so weird we will probably never know what really happened, hehe.
But for idiot goyim best explanation was always "is just avalanche, stfu man" xD
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Well that large copypasta has convinced me it was just a murder covered up and the strange glowing orange balls and the radiation had nothing to do with it. Just normal, mundane geopolitics. Nothing paranormal at all.
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>>42219608
i wrote it out,my american negro frend. i did not copypasta.
Was no alien or no yeti, even though. I do belief yeti and alien is real.
As a russian i can only tell you thing we have learned as a people, never believe first official story.
Yeti and alien is disinformation to muddy water.
One theory even say theyir group, because you MUST THINK LOGICALLY.
nr 1 - it was a hiking expedition of STUDENT FRIENDS. all agged 19-23
nr 2 - somehow a member comes AGED 30+
nr 3 - another man joins aged 30+ BUT IS CONNECTED TO NUCLEAR RESEARCH. HELLO?
nr 4 - KGB insert counterintelligence spy in the group to control what happen
nr 5 - now they all dead.
hello alarm bell? think logic, look at full group, look at connection, look
WHY IN GROUP OF 9 PEOPLE
NOW THINK
one friend only photograph his 4 friends, never photograph older or other group people?
THINK.
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>>42202279
Yuba has that dirtbag in the second car that conflicts his story with every iteration. There may have been more parties involved. That one leans toward hostage or robbery situation.
Daban has rusky military hallmarks.
I think Dyatlov does as well, if not military another group of hostiles. It's unsettling that these three groups of people could be assaulted in more mundane terms, but I think that's the most grounded approach to piecing the cases together.
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>>42219632
now to finish this story,i ask you. you know america has large national parks where people go missing because CRYPTIDS? XD HAHAHA
russia HAS SAME PROGRAMS but!!!! drumroll.
it's in taiga large forest where no population.
it was a big fuck, BIG BIG fuck up they could not cover up because some many inconsistencys.
only thing we know for facts is:
1. they see something that they should not see
2. they all murdered bc of it.
3. coverup is total fuck shitshow xD
hehe.
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>>42219645
kgb veteran explains the radiation tho.
one of the older members was associate of nuclear research of soviet union that was vital information that could not be leaked to cia or america.
KGB insert counterintelligence in the group.
now they all dead, thats all we know for fact.
if orange orbs or aliens killed them i doubt alien as dumbfuck as american negro tyo leave radiation trace on clothes of two people and go dsiappear in milky way? wake up my negro frend. think LOGIC AND THINK LONG.
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>>42219649
also, 7 camera.a lot photos are missing, some photo disrtorted on purpose. why? think THINK
does yeti or alien want fuck with evidence? no!!!
LOOK AT PHOTOS, FIRST KGB SAY WE FOUND 3 CAMERA, THEN 20 YEARS PASS.
journalist want independent research after kgb is no longer, what we found OH WAIT THERES 7 CAMERAS.
does yeti kill them? hahahahaha, fucking idiot negro. if yeti kill u he drag u to his cave and eat u.
Does alien orange orb kill them? give me a fucking break men. if alien want to kill u its eaiser, faster and no clusterfuck.
Maybe even inside job. Some say 9 hikers, some say 10 hikers.
One fact always missed:
THEY MET WITH ANOTHER GROUP IN THE LAST DAY OF ALIVE.
second fact: THINK WHY ARE THEIR MISSING PHOTOS???
YETI OR ALIEN TAKE MISSING PHOTOS?
fuck u negro
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>>42219664
50% of america is negro, 25% is jevrej yids, 20% is white anglo saxon and rest is mexicanas. this we are taught in schools. dont fuck me cuz i just say how it is.
we love all people desu, if u offense, thats ur problem.
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>>42219683
They met Mansi tribesmen with whom there was a language barrier, the Mansi don't speak Russian as their first language. The Mansi are like the Indians of Siberia, they live in the wild and are themselves wild, especially if provoked or drunk. There was an altercation and they left on bad terms. The Mansi came back at night and killed them.
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>>42220912
Mansi tribesmen use spears, knives and bows.
None of the hikers had wounds of either knives, spears or arrows.
Mani tribesmen are of small stature and are physically weaker with no combat skills other than killing prey with arrows or trap.
Lowest IQ take in the thread so far, but good try? I guess.
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>>42201567
>There was also radioactivity on some of their clothes. One of the strangest mysteries for sure.
Not really. One of more of them worked with radioactive materials and it was a fucking Soviet union. Really not that special unless you paint a narrative of mystery around it.
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>>42221677
Lol.
The official explanation was never an actual avalanche, but the perceived fear of an avalanche that made them freak out and run out in different directions and freeze to death.
When their tent and camp was found it was never covered in snow, completely eliminating even the slight possibility of an avalanche.
This thread genuinely has more fucking retards than I've ever seen on 4chan.
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>>42223275
Yeah. Niggas felt some snow fall to the tent and heard rumbling of avalanche coming, snow blocked tent entrance, they cut themselves out and froze to death, some nigga fell. The radiation is the only mystery here.
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>>42223175
read this fucking thread that you post on.
https://badaliens.info/human-mutilations/
https://dyatlovpass.com/death
Lyudmila Dubinina (20) is a clue. Not her in picture, but same thing happend to her.
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>>42223329
Don't reply to my posts, retard.
It still doesn't explain why all of their shoes were in a bundle outside of the tent.
It doesn't explain why they all ran in different directions.
It still doesn't explain the injuries some of them sustained.
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>>42223948
12 hours for ants and rats to eat away eyes and skin in Cookie cutter pattern around eyes waist, and remove blood and organs with perfect cuts? Stfu kys
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>>42224032
>https://badaliens.info/human-mutilations/
>https://dyatlovpass.com/death
READ THE THREAD RETARD OR GO BACK SUCKING JEWISH DICK
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>>42224099
KGB lies. Can you not post the details?
You said there were details.
>>42224108
Bodies with injuries far away would be an indication of an avalanche.
What are the details, not your conclusions.
You say tent wasnt crushed? How do you know?
Come on - you want a thread about this? Put in some damn work to maker your points.
You will be scrutinized, stop being mad and make your case.
Otherwise stop posting in the thread and just go read the articles again.
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>>42224072
Rustem Slobodin - Linear skull fracture (~6 cm)
Nikolai Thibeaux-Brignolle - Major skull fracture accompanied by brain damage
Alexander Kolevatov - Broken nose, Neck deformation
Semyon Zolotaryov - Multiple fractured ribs, Severe internal bleeding
Lyudmila Dubinina - Multiple rib fractures (bilateral, severe), Heart crushed by force, Tongue missing, Missing eyes
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>>42224122
You're such a retarded nigger no wonder you don't have any friends.
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>>42224147
Except at that time, even the locals who were questioned, said there was no avalanche there.
KGB expertise concluded there was no avalanche but buried the entire story by saying they "thought" it was an avalanche, mind you, you absolute braindead fucking retard, the GROUP apparently thought it, not the powers that investigated it. So they concluded that the group panicked after hearing sounds and all of the articles, every single one, claim that the group froze to death after trying to desperately return to the tent, after realizing there is no avalanche coming.
You're either trolling or purpose, or you're forbidden to open up external links outside of 4ch because you're a shill working, or a really shitty bot.
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>>42224159
I'm not really agreeing with the avalanche. I just want people who dispute it to do so in this thread.
Otherwise, what is the point? Anyone can just go look it up. Are we just going to make this a slide thread?
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>>42224153
That's months of snowfall after the incident, even a SMALL avalanche would have moved the tent sideways, not leave it standing, you absolute fucking idiot. You're the cuckold loser from the SR threads, i can tell by the style of your writing. Despicable human.
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>>42224147
Just for the lulz i axed AI to explain this to me and it said:
Why people argue it was NOT a classic avalanche
1. Tent was still partially standing
The tent at the Dyatlov Pass Incident was:
Not buried under deep snow
Still partially upright when found
A typical slab avalanche:
Buries structures under dense snow (often meters deep)
Collapses tents completely
Conclusion:
No large-scale avalanche debris = inconsistent with a full avalanche
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>>42224169
>even the locals who were questioned, said there was no avalanche there.
How would they know? Avalanche risk and mitigation isnt something you do in your spare time. How do you think the locals would detect an avalanche happening way out in the wilderness?
>KGB expertise
Are liars. I dont care about anything they said and put no authority in it.
>>42224177
>even a SMALL avalanche would have moved the tent sideways
Or just gone over the top of it, crushing it down as we see.
You can seethe and scream and fail at insulting by letting us know you go to the SR general and are addicted to porn.
But it doesnt change that an avalanche is possible.
What's funny is my first ask for a topographical map would do a lot more to disproving the idea than anything you could ever say.
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>>42224189
LOL I THOUGHT AI stop but it says more D:
2. Slope angle was relatively low
Estimated slope = ~15–30°
Most avalanche-prone slopes = 30–45°
Conclusion:
Terrain was not ideal for a major avalanche
3. No clear avalanche debris field
Search teams reported:
No large snow accumulation downhill
No classic avalanche path or fracture line
Conclusion:
Lack of debris trail weakens avalanche theory
4. Hikers exited in an orderly way
Tent was cut open from the inside
Footprints showed:
People walked (not ran chaotically)
No signs of being swept away
Conclusion:
Behavior doesn’t match sudden violent avalanche impact
5. Injuries don’t fully match burial scenario
Some hikers (e.g., Lyudmila Dubinina and Semyon Zolotaryov):
Had extreme internal trauma
But:
Others had almost no injuries
Argument:
Avalanches usually affect victims more uniformly
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>>42224201
Just ignore the trolls, brother. You and me both know it was just an avalanche. They're literally just trolling you and you're falling for it.
We all know it was just an avalanche, AI cannot be trusted, only dumb animals use AI.
I've seen plenty of avalanches in my time as I have 30+ years of experience with avalanches, this is a clear and cut case of an avalanche.
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>>42224217
Yeah, I know they're just trolling. I just wanted to see if they could explain, with their thinking or prove anything.
So far not a single fact, and they cannot prove anything.
I just asked for ONE proof, ONE fact. Nobody can deliver anything except insults.
I've seen plenty of avalanches, this one is just an ordinary avalanche scenario, nothing even weird about but they're literally schizophrenic.
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>>42222629
Can you post any actual proof it wasn't an avalanche? Like concrete evidence in a plastic bag? Did they take samples of the snow and make sure it was tested whether it was an avalanche snow or normal snow?
Do you have any actual links or articles to back this up?
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>>42224217
>You and me both know it was just an avalanche.
IF it was an avalanche, it isnt JUST an avalanche.
It would have had to be a rather big one since the snow would have to travel far to reach their site.
The orange lights might go some way to explain avalanche injuries without an avalanche.
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>>42213476
Wait wtf a while ago my dog got puppies 2 disappeared I found one alive the other was dead already i sa the corpse and it had no eyes no skin on the face everything else was there also no blood. Which is weird cause i seen a lot of dead animals live in a farm area.
Dad says it was a rat but I seen corpses eaten by rats they nibble at everything not just the eyes and face
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>>42224332
All the official reports concluded it was not an avalanche, yet here YOU are asking literal schizophrenics for evidence and proof that it was indeed NOT an avalanche.
Even when they give you literal evidence you keep trolling them and asking for more proof and evidence. At this point I am not sure WHAT you are, because honestly even people with down syndrome have more common sense than you, buddy.
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>>42224402
>official reports concluded
I dont care what others tell me to think.
>asking literal schizophrenics for evidence and proof that it was indeed NOT an avalanche
No, I asked to see a topological map since the schizos said an avalanche was IMPOSSIBLE.
>Even when they give you literal evidence
Lots of detail on the injuries.
It took pulling teeth to get a pic in the thread, and it showed a tent crushed by snow.
Nothing like what I asked for - the topology of the REGION. Not just the camp's slope.
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>>42224153
>shows a tent crushed by snow
>lol
>Thanks for the detail.
>No wonder you didnt want to post it.
The tent is still standing, after 2-3 months of snowfall falling on it. 0 sign of an avalanche.
An avalanche would have tipped the entire tent or buried it completely due to the massive amount the snow slab weighs.
Expertise showed that the hikers did not run out of the tent, but calmly walked in different directions, leaving their shoes behind.
Furthermore, the bodies of the hikers were not found buried in snow, which an avalanche would have done, none of their bodies were buried deep in snow, in fact.
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>>42224444
>after 2-3 months
>0 sign of an avalanche
Any sign og avalanche would be gone then as well. And the sign is that the tent is buried in snow.
Not nice snowfall snow, either, but chunks and clumps as you would see from post-avalanche.
>An avalanche would have tipped the entire tent or buried it completely due to the massive amount the snow slab weighs.
Not if the avalanche started some distance away and the snow traveled.
We know it obviously didnt start where the camp is, so the moorings wouldnt come loose and I wouldnt expect the tent to move laterally.
>the bodies of the hikers were not found buried in snow
They dug themselves out.
Again - since we know there is nothing immediate that would have an avalanche, the snow must have traveled some distance.
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>>42224460
>Any sign og avalanche would be gone then as well.
Did the avalanche fly away into the sunset after crushing them and their tent?
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>>42224468
>gives up
So no map, then? I got no issue keeping the avalanche model.
>>42224474
That very highly depends on how stuck you are in the snow.
https://www.wral.com/story/man-describes-harrowing-experience-after-tr iggering-avalanche-following-fall-o n-idaho-s-tallest-mountain/17664467 /
>Yan was somehow able to stop himself as the snow continued to slide around him. He was buried up to his neck and felt like he was suffocating.
>Using his elbows and knees, Yan slowly dug himself out of the snow. It was 6:30 p.m. and he figured he could hike back down the mountain after resting.
Even moreso if there was one or two that werent buried.
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>>42224527
Ok I did and they agree with me.
>>42224536
The tent is buried under snow and IS crushed. It wouldnt move to the side if it was hit at the tail end of the avalanche and moored in place.
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>>42224581
I don't know much about this shit, desu.
But I've never seen such an organized, coordinated effort managed literally 24/7, in this thread particularly, to spam the idea that it was an avalanche, asking for evidence against any other theory while never posting any proof in support of their own idea.
That, and KGB said it was an avalanche, stop talking about it.
I don't even care about this topic but I do believe for a fact it was not an avalanche due to all this glowie spam.
Bots and shills are a clear indicator of a narrative buildup.
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>>42213476
Cult killings your textbooks need burning evolution debunked no mechanism chicken eggs thing thennxonvex vectors are not a plane mine craft Jews ar faking fake space satellitess tea do not exist thermosphere burn up plus micrometerites meteroites and space hail would shred them there is no such thing as space those are false works Lucy piltdown crystal skull he ax stomehemge hoax Eric dubay drew Pluto on Pluto the fact space is fake 3d graphics imaging proved the earth flat in 60s fake moon rocks christian topography by Cosmas royal london publishing house
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A russian lady published a book some years ago. She said the leader of the expedition had ties to the KGB and the agency gave him some LSD-like hallucinogen that he gave to the rest of the group to try.
The drug made them go crazy and the KGB covered it up.
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>>42201562
>Zolotaryov was a KGB agent and former double agent during WW2. This is a fact.
>Zolotaryov was trying to root out a spy ring
>Zolotaryov's body wasn't him. It was found with tattoos he was known to not have. Eyes were removed because they were the wrong color. He survived the incident.
>Zolotaryov's body was exhumed and DNA tested. It didn't match his known relatives.
>Zolotaryov stated to his class that the expedition would be famous worldwide before the trip.
>Krivonischenko was willing to spy for the West because he was involved in the Kyshtym nuclear disaster, was pissed at the USSR for exposing him to radiation, and that the USSR put him on nuclear clean-up duty.
>Krivonischenko probably recruited Dyatlov before the incident
>Yuri Yudin knew shit was going to go down and noped tf out of there
>The rest were potential spies outed by Zolotaryov and the KGB.
The party was executed and the KGB took a few weeks to clean up the site. Zolotaryov probably had a gun and marched them down to the tree line where they were executed. Didn't them get dressed because why bother, they are dead anyway. Dubinina may have been helping Zolotaryov, her family moved into a new house a week before the incident and her "body" was found with his. KGB had about a month to clean up the site which is why the investigation was strange AF.
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>>42224430
>, I asked to see a topological map since the schizos said an avalanche was IMPOSSIBLE.
Some faggot in Switzerland who came up with the slab avalanche theory mapped out the entire pass and published it. You can find this online. TLDR: somehow a campsite with about a 27 degree incline got avalanched. Swiss nigger says it's possible. Logic says it's not.
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>>42224264
>I mean actual evidence of a mansi tribesman carving that into the tree?
The Mansi carved that. They called the area "Dead Mountain" and routinely left part of their hunts as offerings for whatever tf lived there. I think this shit was KGB related, but the Mansi angle is legit weird.
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>>42216998
>The orange spheres people further away saw?
A no shit military exercise went down that night. This fact is known. It was supposed to be about 40 miles South of the area but did involve percussion bombs.
The radiation?
Krivonischenko worked at the Chelyabinsk nuclear facility and was out on clean up duty for the Kyshtym disaster. Dudes clothes and body were radioactive.
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>>42224685
>I've never seen such an organized, coordinated effort managed literally 24/7, in this thread particularly, to spam the idea that it was an avalanche
I dunno man. Wherever there's a shitty explanation that doesn't make sense normies flock to this like flies on shit. Same thing in most threads on most topics. I can't imagine why anyone would shill this topic since the KGB isn't a thing anymore and I don't know why shills would actively continue to cover it up, but it is weird. The avalanche hypotheses is sheer nonsense, especially when you consider the actual site. Maybe the idea is just to shill compliance with the accepted thing and to troll anyone that asks sane and logical questions. Maybe normies are retards that cling to whatever authorities tell them because the alternative has too much cognitive dissonance for them. It is a thing though and the avalanche hypothesis seems pretty astroturfed.
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>>42225464
Yudin even before his deathbed said it was a military coverup. Him leaving the group midway was definitely weird as fuck.
Zolotaryov joining the "student friend group" in the last minute before the expedition was definitely fucking weird.
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>>42225493
The mansi tribesmen would have left legit wounds on them if it indeed was them. As they use mainly bows and knives.
But mansi tribesmen are not violent even if you violate their hunting grounds, because their hunting grounds are fucking insanely vast and huge.
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>>42201562
They became witnesses to a series of classified military launches of experimental rockets.
The military thought they were American spies and killed them.
Later KGB thought oopsie-doopsie and covered it up.
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>>42225550
>posts a pic of the immediate site plus DOWNHILL
It's like you people are allergic to evidence supporting what you say.
Almost like you have no evidence, but still are desperate for people to accept your claims.
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>>42226543
It's called Google you complete faggot. Try it. Also, Amazon did an entire show on the dude's research. You can watch it on Prime. Good shots on his mapping process,.data.collecruon, etc. the researchers names were Johan Gaume and Alexander Puzrin.
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>>42219641
Just did a deep dive on Yuba and I think it was an MKNAOMI type operation similar to the Fernand School one or a similar experiment. Schons and/or Mathias were clearly intelligence operatives.
>four retards and one schizophrenic discharged serviceman (Mathias) meet at a California """"vocational program""""
>drive to a basketball game together, but instead of coming home they venture up a mountain in the opposite direction in the middle of a blizzard
>car gets stuck in snow (but not actually) only yards away from another car that's also stuck (Schon's)
>coincidentally he's having a heart attack inside and calls for help, spooking the five invalids (he claims)
>all five run away toward a conveniently well lit nearby """"forest service"""" shelter that's stocked with canned food
>they open and eat some of it then three of them run away for through the snow for some reason and die of exposure
>in the morning Schons miraculously gets over his heart attack, walks eight miles through the snow to a nearby hospital, and neglects to report the five lost invalids, thinking them only a hallucination (he later claims)
>one retard is too frostbitten to run away and stays with Mathias in the cabin for thirteen weeks after the others have fled
>he stops eating for some reason and dies of hunger and frostbite inside a fully stocked survival shelter long after the blizzard has passed
>Mathias takes his boots and disappears, leaving his shoes behind. He's never seen again.
The retards had drivers licenses and high school diplomas by the way, so it's not like they were completely incapable of staying out and waiting out the blizzard. Mathias probably lured them out there to test an incapacitating drug or torture method imo. Glows so fucking hard.
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>>42225892
>They became witnesses to a series of classified military launches of experimental rockets.
Why would the military kill them just for that? These are people that were working at nuke plants and members of the party. A rocket launch is nothing.
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>>42227074
Nta ... But his point was that the bodies were found in three different locations. Which would suggest that an avalanche didn't strike them causing them to walk in a orderly fashion to the trees where they build a fire to survive. The avalanche theory rests on two separate avalanche like events. The first that triggered leaving the tent, then another for Zolotaryov and Dububina to receive traumatic injures at another location. This shit is really improbable. Also, the avalanche theory is stupid, because you would at least try to find the things you need for survival as you are digging yourself out. You wouldn't just abandon your gear.
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>>42227184
>Zolotaryov
>traumatic injuries
Except DNA analysis proves that wasn't his body. Imo he interrogated killed them all for the KGB, probably to root out a spy. Another body was dumped there to replace him from a gulag or something.
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>>42205484
Jesus she rambles, listen for 1h then had to jump around. She never says anything. What was her conclusion?
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>>42227227
I agree with you, but I was pointing out that the avalanche hypothesis makes no sense. For many reasons, not just because Zolotaryov and his missing body are massive mysteries that the avalanche theory can't account for. If you believe it was an avalanche, then you have to believe that Zolotaryov was injured, there wasn't foul play involved, and you have no rational explanation for why Zolotaryov isn't buried in Zolotaryov's grave. Even if you are dumb enough to believe all of this, you also have to believe that a slab avalanche caused them to leave the tent and injured some members of the party, but four of the members escaped serious injury and then were later subject to another natural even that injured them and killed them at a separate location. This theory makes no sense any way you look at it.
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>>42228281
If you have Amazon Prime, watch "The Dyatlov Mystery" and skip to 49:02. It's way better than slogging through the indecipherable rambling in that YouTube video. Teodora Hadjiyska believes:
>they were never on the slope, but pitched the tent in the forest
>a tree fell on them
>everyone was so freaked out they forgot to put on clothes and died of hypothermia
>a geological expedition found the bodies and took 6 of them to a morgue
>the expedition heard Moscow was launching a massive search and got scared they would be blamed
>geologic expedition staged the campsite on the slope for the 6 bodies but never found the other 3
She's a solid researcher but her analysis is off target.
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>>42229853
>>the expedition heard Moscow was launching a massive search and got scared they would be blamed
>>geologic expedition staged the campsite on the slope for the 6 bodies but never found the other 3
This is the part Hadjiyska is probably correct about. The bodies were probably brought to the morque, but the Moscow investigators staged the campsite. I also believe that Dubinina and Zolotaryov were KGB and fake bodies were planted for them.
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>>42229870
>I also believe that Dubinina and Zolotaryov were KGB and fake bodies were planted for them.
That explains why their eyeballs were missing then, Kgbezhniks removed the eyes from the replacement corpses to hide the fact that they weren't Zolotaryov and Dubinina, whose real fate is unknown
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>>42202629
I think the more recent theory and the on I'm compelled to believe is that it was an avalanche that partially buried their tent, so they had to cut their way out and leave in a hurry, with only some of them managing to put on warm clothes.
The ones who were basically naked stayed behind by the fire and froze to death and the others tried to return to the tent and either froze on the way or fell down a cliff or something. Also I think some of the bodies were only found months later
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>>42202629
Oh, also what makes it such a compelling mystery is that there was indeed a cover up, but from what I understand this was just common practice in the USSR, to cover up horrific events like this
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>>42231170
>so they had to cut their way out and leave in a hurry
Doesn't make sense. Yeah, you may have to cut yourself out, but you are also gonna take protective clothing with you after you leave and there isn't such a rush after the avalanche that you would leave clothing behind. It's important enough to dig for if you have to. Only plausible explanations for the campsite location are (1) they were forced out of the tent at gunpoint and not allowed to take shoes and coats with them or (2) the campsite was staged.
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>>42232209
Wasn't the tent cut open from the inside? How would that make sense if they were forced out at gunpoint?
I can totally imaging waking up while your tent is currently being buried in snow and just getting the fuck out of there in a panic, while your brain isn't fully working yet.
Have you ever been woken up by something in the middle of the night?
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>>42232334
Except the cuts in the tent were not big enough for a person to get out of.
Official records state that the cuts from the inside of the tent were just big enough for a persons head to look through.
KGB records justify this by stating that they wanted to "photograph the stars", one KGB veteran said on camera that whoever forced them out, went inside the tent stayed there and cut out the tent to look out of it while observing them.
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>>42233206
>Official records state that the cuts from the inside of the tent were just big enough for a persons head to look through.
They were possibly vent holes. As strange as it may sound, Dyatlov's tent heater burned wood and there were 9 people inside. It may have gotten really hot inside the tent and they may have needed to vent the heat out.
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>>42233738
>They were given high doses of LSD. Knowingly or unknowingly.
Most of the Soviet bloc research was limited to Czechoslovakia and Bulgaria. The USSR really didn't use LSD in research even in the 1960s. Say what you will about the Soviets, but they weren't degenerates. It's highly unlikely a group of students would have access to LSD in the Soviet Union in 1959.
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>>42226950
Tons of stuff online about this. The info that seems relevant to me is that Mathias' sister separated from a guy named Gary Whiteley whose family controlled the logging industry in the area and was connected to the Sheriff's office in Yuba. Standard autopsies weren't conducted on the bodies. It seems like an intentionally botched investigation at the local level. Also weird that two of the retards were seen in the area about a week after the disappearance. Probably foul play and there was motive against Mathias. But this seems more like a cover-up than some kind of CIA mind control expirement.
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>>42238084
It wasn't drugs. It's pretty simple. You had three radio engineering experts (Dyatlov, Kolmogorova, and Doroshenko). Two nuclear experts already working in sensitive positions (Kolevatov and Krivonischenko). One malcontent whose dad was in prison (Thibeaux-Brignolle). And a KGB agent (Zolotaryov). It was a spook-fest. One or multiple party members were already spying against the government and Zolotaryov was tasked with stopping them.
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>>42201562
Military experiment on the effects of PCP in relation to raising a person's body temperature in sub zero temperatures, conducted by the 'ex' kgb member who joined the hiking part about a week before, and as we see went completely off the rails
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Flat Earth of some sort is real, that doodle in Jeff's birthday card with the locations of various Estates in different countries shows the inversion (Where you think you live is one of the nearest oceans to you, the negative space created by "oceans" on the globe are the real landmasses within the Ice Wall. They draw the landmasses as not being held in by anything because once you see this, you aren't. The "ocean states" are the only truly confined. You can walk to the edge of YOUR world, but Creation? Unsure. Probably need a Throne ride, at least.) and Dyatlov is one of the gates in the Ice Wall. It's actually near... Australia or someshit?
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The inversion of landmasses/bodies of water may not be Physically literally but it is a key piece of Knowledge.
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I don't think we'll ever know what really happened.
The climbers saw/did something that night.
I believe two theories:
1) Bears/wolves
2) They accidentally ended up in an area where chemical weapons were being tested, which caused them to hallucinate and go mad.
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>>42240261
>Bears
Hibernate during the winter
>wolves
Pack animal that hunts and plays the numbers game. They may attack a lone human, but they wouldn't attack a 9-person party.
>They accidentally ended up in an area where chemical weapons were being tested
Why would you conduct a chemical weapons test during a snowstorm and without pre-planned test subjects? And why wouldn't the Soviets test these weapons in a more populated area like the U.S. did to get actual results instead of targeting random wildlife?
, which caused them to hallucinate and go mad.
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>>42240736
>Hibernate during the winter
Bears should not be disturbed during hibernation.
>Why would you conduct a chemical weapons test during a snowstorm and without pre-planned test subjects?
What if the test had just concluded? Or what if that had been an area where chemical weapons were stored?
Something happened that night.
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>>42241454
>Hibernate
Bears dont actually hibernate. They do a different process called torpor and CAN be woken up.
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>>42218566
Shut your cunt mouth you faggot fed piece of shit. Outted yourself you glownigger piece of shit. Now fuck off to citing jew movied as a reference for fucking you retarded fucken fool lol
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>>42218541
Anon, note that this paid shill agitator fuckwad boasted of special effects trickery in fictional hollywood movied was proof of his "argument". Its a double digit iq having mouth breather retard that they have selected as their little shill. Too bad theyre the most pathetic fucken dipshits we have ever encountered on here roflmao
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>>42209821
Hurrrrr durrr i--its just humans! I s--saw a hollyweird retard level sci-fi movie that explains it all, i-i-its p-proof i swear it anons im not a paid black ops piece of shit here to spread horseshit without giving a shred of fucken evidence to the contrary. But believe me cause im an arrogant faggot fuckface thatll mock you in the thread if you dont! Ooga booga fed shill go kill yourself asshole lol
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>>42209848
Either a bona fide fucken retard of a shill.
Those predators DONT SURGICALLY REMOVE EYEBALLS YOU DUMB COCKSUCKER, THEY DONT EXTRACT ANAL TISSUE AND LEAVE WHOLE CHUNKS OF FRESH MEAT FROM A KILL.
Where the fuck do you love you ignorant fuck? Tell me youve never been out of a city or know a SINGLE fucking thing about wildlife biology without saying it.
Yea wolves have a surgival instrumentd to take strips of eyebrows and tongued to eat like a delicacy made by human hands at a classy grill. Predators scavenging LEAVE NO FLESH behind. Use logic fuckface.
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>>42241454
>What if the test had just concluded? Or what if that had been an area where chemical weapons were stored?
Why would the USSR do this in the middle of fucking nowhere where no military infrastructure actually exists. The U.S. does stuff like this in remote areas like Groom Lake, but planes actually fly into and out of there and actual military installations exist in these places. And why would you not test chemical weapons on an actual population? When the U.S. tested their biological and chemical weapons, they did it in populated places like San Francisco. A Yeti attack makes literally more sense than a chemical weapons test on a random mountain during a snowstorm.
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>>42242549
>Bears dont actually hibernate. They do a different process called torpor
Call it whatever you want you stupid Reddit nigger, but Bears aren't active in the Winter and a group of experienced and certified hikers didn't stumble into a bear den, wake the motherfucker up and then after being attacked by a bear, decide to walk calmly from their tent down to the forest treeline (where the bear probably came from) without any of their winter gear.
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>>42242774
Playing devil's advocate, but small predators do target accessible, soft, and nutrient rich tissue like tongues and eyeballs (salt). Mice could cause the tissue losses like you saw on a few of the bodies. And the bodies with missing parts were found near a stream so the water could have thawed the tissue in order for predation to have occurred. You still have massive questions left to explain, such as why a body that was apparently subject to animal predation failed DNA tests (Zolotaryov), how the bodies were traumatically injured, and what caused the entire scenario. It's the entirety of the scenario that defies explanation, not just the missing body parts.
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>>42247407
Bears will wake up from their hibernation to defend their den or to shift positions. They are not going to wake up in the middle of a fucking snowstorm and go on the hunt for humans (not their preferred prey). Even if this were possible there were no signs of bear attack-related trauma on the bodies, no bear tracks, and no tearing on the tent that wasn't made by a knife. The bear theory is dumber than the avalanche theory.
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>>42244099
>I remember reading that it was an avalanche that caused panic, and in a survival situation panic often results in death
An "avalanche" on about a 18 degree incline that apparently caused 9 experienced hikers to lose their shit? Not likely. A katabatic wind makes more sense if you are looking for a normie explanation, but if a supercharged cold hurricane force wind did hit the tent, it's unlikely they would have intentionally left without their cold weather clothes. Normies want normie answers but there really aren't normie answers to this mystery.
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>>42248400
>An "avalanche" on about a 18 degree incline
Avalanches can travel very far on even flat ground. 18 degree slope could have an avalanche travel for half a mile or more.
Getting with such an unlikely avalanche would indeed cause even experienced hikers to lose their shit.
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>>42249260
There would be visible signs of fracturing in the surface of the snow pack if this were a threat of happening (we don't see this in photos). They were high enough on the slope that there wouldn't have been a lot of destructive force. And we know that the avalanche didn't move the tent, so the hikers at a minimum would have tried to find their gear before moving. And why move after the avalanche? Everything you need to survive is at the campsite. They avalanche theory stops explaining things after the initial avalanche, which is improbable. All the hikers survived yet their bodies were found at different locations. Injuries all over the bodies (back and front) not just in an area exposed to the initial force. "U" shaped injuries on two bodies. At least two bodies showing signs of strangulation or a large external pressure causing death yet we know they survived the initial "avalanche" based on footprints and the location where the body was found. Why was a man that wasn't Zolotaryov buried in his grave. Why were some bodies burned? Could an avalanche occur there, yes, but it's improbable, there was no evidence found of an avalanche, and it doesn't explain anything regarding the case. It's a dumb and lazy explanation.
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>>42249509
>There would be visible signs of fracturing in the surface of the snow pack
Not at the time they finally went out and looked.
>They were high enough on the slope that there wouldn't have been a lot of destructive force.
You dont know how avalanches work. Not only that, if the avalanche traveled - as it would have HAD to - then there was no way they were anything but below the entire avalanche.
>didn't move the tent
The tent was moored in snow that was not part of the avalanche. You would not expect it to move, only be crushed - which the pictures show.
>And why move after the avalanche? Everything you need to survive is at the campsite.
Because the resources at camp arent enough.
>Injuries all over the bodies (back and front) not just in an area exposed to the initial force.
Is evidence of an avalanche.
>At least two bodies showing signs of strangulation or a large external pressure causing death
More evidence of an avalanche and crushing pressure applied if not fatally then for some time.
>there was no evidence found of an avalanche, and it doesn't explain anything regarding the case.
Not true, as explained above.
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>>42249596
There would have been physical and visible fractures in the snow face that would indicate a slab avalanche as a possibility. The party's pictures are blurry, but they do not show this kind of snow pack. To date, slab avalanches have been seen near the camp site (700 meters), but not at that location, most likely due to the slope of where they camped and snow not accumulating in large quantities in the area above the site. The Swiss faggots who concocted this horseshit used slab avalanches from the other side of the pass to strengthen their argument. Dyatlov was an experienced hiker. He knew avalanches and how to avoid them. The camp site found their skis still placed upright in the snow and the tent poles still upright as well. Is it possible, maybe. But when you consider everything else about this case that occurred after this initial event, their theory becomes near impossible to have occurred. Yeti literally makes more sense than this.
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>>42217162
These are skydivers with flares.
>>42217117
This one is crazy, any articles about it?
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>>42249596
The injuries weren't consistent with an avalanche. You have a few bodies with broken and fractured skulls, but you have no fractured arms or legs. Every body had significant lacerations on their hands, as if they were engaged in fighting. Most of the hikers left the tent in their socks, but there were no significant injuries to the feet. for the two bodies that showed signs of pulmonary edema (from suffocation or strangulations), you can't explain how they freed themselves from a literally crushing weight in a very short time if it was a massive weight of snow. And for some reason, the most injured bodies (head trauma and fractured skulls) were the ones found farthest from the tent. None of this is consistent with an avalanche, but it is indicative of a physical struggle and likely foul play.
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>>42217117
>Yuri Krivonischenko, 23. The foamy grey fluid that was found on the right cheek of the deceased started the speculations that before death someone or something was pressing on his chest cavity.
>This forceful method was common for interrogation by the NKVD (Stalin's Secret Police) and Special Forces.
Right here is the key to figuring this out. If you read through Krivonischenko's personal letters, he was pretty disgruntled with his mandatory work cleaning up after the Kyshtym disaster. This whole thing was a KGB counterintelligence operation.
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>>42213476
I have personally seen crows and ravens remove soft tissue from animals (specifically eyes, lips and anus). Came upon a fresh deer killed on the road, decided to grab it because why not, a whole lot of meat. The crows had removed the anal tissue with such precision that I didn't even have to cut around it in order to gut the deer, the cuts around the anus were as clean as a knife cut I would make. The eyes and lips were gone as well, and mind you, this was a really fresh kill, they work quickly. Get some experience around the woods and around animal bodies and you'll see.
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>>42217117
>They rather hide under a Cedar tree then go back to their tent
>And what could have caused that, Gentlemen?
>"Another group of hikers 31 miles south of the incident reported that they saw strange orange spheres in the sky
One possibility people aren't considering is that the military was actively searching for the party and the "orbs" were search lights. If the members of the party were potential spies or defectors (they all had their passports on them which is strange), this would explain why the party left the tent in a hurry if they were discovered and made their way toward the tree line (cover). This would also explain the strange photos Zolotaryov took of what looks like planes (possibly search planes).
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I am personally prone to believe that there could be local tribal cannibals or indeed NKVD was involved like here >>42217117.
Whenever I hear about aliens I am skeptical, because powers that be can't shut the fuck up about them and shill the narrative everywhere.
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>>42201562
Watching a vid on this now. I'm very confused. All the campers apparently ran out wearing very light clothing. It was supposed to be -40 weather even if you're in a tent that doesn't mean you have the luxury of stripping all your warm clothes off.
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>>42251571
>even if you're in a tent that doesn't mean you have the luxury of stripping all your warm clothes off.
Dyatlov had a tent heater he designed. It was a wood burning heater that is placed inside a tent. With 9 bodies and a heater, it would have been hot in there.
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>>42214267
Peoples dont go there because its an absolute pain in the ass to get there, and if anything were to happens youre shit out of luck as no one will come to save your ass. Its just the reality of sparsely populated regions,
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>>42251571
Youd be surprised how hot it can get if you have a good setup, i recall how during my survival exam years ago, we had a team whose camp was so well made they could walk outside the hut in t shirt in -30c tempd because their refractory wall was effective enough to keep a ton of heat in.
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>>42251537
>there could be local tribal cannibals (involved)
And they just left the corpses there?
>or indeed NKVD was involved
What if this was some massive Russian on Russian counterintelligence operation? Like the KGB, NKVD, and military were all trying to root out spies and they had agents in the group undercover pretending to be agents recruiting spies, and they were basically just recruiting agents from other Russian agencies to spy against Russia who were also trying to recruit them to spy against Russia and expose them? This shit happens all the time with the FBI in the U.S. where an undercover FBI agent gets busted for terrorism by another US agency. This would explain the massive cover up, because it was so embarassing they didn't want this to get out. Like, every member of this group had cameras and was documenting everything they could. I can't imagine cameras and film were cheap in the USSR in the 1950s. You could have a dude like Zolotaryov trying to expose Krivonischenko who was trying to expose Dyatlov who was trying to expose Zoltaryov and three different agencies throwing parachute flares and airplanes and on-ground agents at the party (the party did take pictures of other people on the pass). This explains the disinformation because you had a bunch of post-Stalin Era paranoid glowniggers trying to cover-up their mistakes while also trying to figure out what mistakes other agencies made and none of them ever figured out how bad they collectively fucked up.