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>>42218291
Probably not everything.

>>42218507
okay so nasha is to decieve
but nasa is to lift
why are you using a different word then?

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>>42218587
It's an obvious wordplay, referring to both lifting (rockets) and deceit.

>>42218636
and sip and ship isplayfull wordplay meaning you can drink a sheep? are you retarded? that is not how language works

>>42218636
Nipple

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>>42218650
I'm not going to pretend for a moment that you don't know what puns are.
You are being deliberately disingenous.

https://www.fema.gov/emergency-managers/national-preparedness/exercises/hseep

>>42218702
okay explain why it was called NACA before it became NASA? does it mean retarded in hebrew? cause that is what you are

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>>42218712
>It was originally called something else, therefore it's impossible that it was changed to make a pun.
That's your argument.

>>42218727
booohooo too scared to pull it up?
NACA in hebrew means to pull-up, set on a journey or march
I gues that is 2 against 0 for usign hebrew words that would make sense and not schizo not knowing how dictionaries work

>>42218291
Like giving your dog meds
you hide the lie in the block of cheese
some spit the pill out or refuse
Most consume it all

bump

It always has been NASA in Hebrew means deception

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>>42218291
This is how I see it. I only go with what I can observe and verify in order to be completely non-bias and fair. Like an alien looking at what NASA does with no knowledge of math, science, or any self-imposed beliefs/propaganda/brain wash. Clean slate because it's the most fair way. If something is the truth it should be obvious and easily verifiable.

There is some hard evidence and proof of deception from NASA, but no smoking gun per se. My problem is, if I was NASA and wanted to shit on the flerfers or doubters I would release raw footage and raw images of whatever the hot topic is at that time. FULL TRANSPARENCY. Why not???? Why is EVERYTHING edited? I understand some things need to be edited to see it clearly, but release the RAW shit too. Why not? And I would strap a cam with no fish lens onto the spaceship and release the raw footage of Earth getting farther away. Why not? It's very strange how most events they fuck up some how. Losing raw moon landing data/footage/tech (which is INSANE. Our greatest achievement, really?), the 3i Atlas fuckery, live streams cutting out at convenient moments, ISS, this moon trip, etc.

And why does every live stream have half the damn ISS in the frame? Every. Single. Time. Just strap a cam on the fking ship, reg lens, and show from takeoff to the moon or at least until the whole Earth is in frame. It's humanity's greatest achievement, it should be recorded the whole way.0 reason not to do this, doesn't even cost money. The fact that they won't do this raises red flags for me. No raw images, WHY?

Either they want ppl to get distracted and believe FE, like playing along w it, or there is deception going on. Given the creation, history, and track record of NASA with paperclip and the freemasons in the org, I'm inclined to lean towards deception. To what extent, no idea.

No one knows ultimately, but there is fuckery and anyone who denies that are too scared to think gov lies to them. Not brave enough.

My 2 cents

>>42218291
And then the ultimate question is ok, why all this deception and fuckery? That's the question. FE? Money scam? Tech is not good enough so they lie? Maybe, idk. But they are hiding something and I would die on it personally - gun to my head 100%.

>>42221577
Good post. Love your logic and the questions you asked. They naturally come up when I contemplate space. Why WOULDN'T they do such a thing like actually record everything and watch Earth get smaller. It's because they can't. Why did the astronauts who moon landed look so distraught? Because they knew the cashed a check they can't pay in the long run. The humans of 2100+ will laugh that any of us believed these missions.

>>42221593
Assorted reasons I've found
>NASA was a post WWII reaction/kike blackmoney pit where all countires pretended to be scared of each other and putting NOOOKS on the moon fearmongering
>Post WWII one world gov plans fake the cold war
>Send man "into Space" to insult God and attempt to diminish and kill the abrahamic faiths, of course mostly Christians are the target of disillusionment
>easy money laundering under the mask of SOICENCE

>>42221596
Right??? No brainer, and EVERYONE should be wondering why don't they do that? NASA could prove globe and it's tech and legitimacy with ONE camera. But they somehow won't do it...

The history of NASA alone is sketch af and everyone should be skeptical with anything they release. Straight up, by default. I think ppl are starting to ask questions these days but not enough ppl, and NPCs are too scared to accept a world full of lies. Their reality will fall apart. To each his own tho but don't think u know everything yano? Many outcomes and truths are possible. Most things are actually not 100% truly set in stone at it's philosophical root.

>>42221602
Agreed with most of that, but I'm not fuuully certain. It does make a lot of sense tho kek. The problem is everyone thinks they know everything. My whole thing is lets look at the raw undisputable facts and take it from there. Sure we can talk theories and opinions but that is not truth. Proof of deception is enough, we don't have to prove FE or religion or whatever the fuck.

ASSUMING that most of the stuff about the dude is true - miracles aside. In B4 the guy who thinks he's Satan @s me. Could be - maaaybe 1% chance, idk I wasn't there, but not the point of this thread

wrong thread my bad lmfao too high rn

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>>42221614
>NASA could prove globe and it's tech and legitimacy with ONE camera. But they somehow won't do it...
how, when some people call the shots fake no matter what?

>>42218291
I remember watching a NASA spokesman on tv a number of years ago say they had to figure out how to get through the Van Allen Belt before they could journey to the moon. NASA never did explain how they did it.

>>42221784
I agree, but it's the least they can do. And the ppl who call it fake would say everything is fake. They are idiots. We have ways of verifying real vs fake footage so it would naturally go thru that process and if verified real gg. No brainer immo and just fascinating to watch period, if we could.... It should've been done regardless is the point

>>42221802
bitch didn't "get the memo" as they say
she's probably dead now

>>42221813
which shots of the earth do you think are fake, or which ones simply dont meet your standard?

>>42221802
exact same post in a flat earth thread on /pol/ right now.

i replied, but he never did

a common meme. ive explained that the guy who said that was developing the guidance computer for Orion and that he was talking about possible effects on that computer while in the VAB (bit flips etc). its these that would endanger the lives of the crew NOT their exposure to radiation.

he said this before Orion first flew back in 2014. it has since done 2 unmanned and 1 manned flight and its clearly just fine.

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>>42218291

This thing for sure lmaooo

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/suit_water_intrusion_mishap_investigation_report.pdf

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>>42218291
No.
Not only have they been to the moon when they say they have, they've been setting up bases their using teleportation technology they've been steadily developing since the USS Eldridge incident.
Getting flat-Earthers and Moon landing denialists are a new faith to go along with the cargo cultists demanding disclosure.
They're running psyops because so many of us now realize they have A LOT of high tech they're hiding.

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>>42218291
Yes. Nasa or Asan as in Asasnine, is the most fake and rubbish government agency out there and all it does it justify moving around and cleaning dirty money so it can be used by the government to enrich friends and family of those in the government.

The whole concept of space is crap and just does not exist, remember the cover story of those satellites suspending with weather balloons?

Don't forget to mention how every single "space" launch (ha) goes the exact same angle with the exact same destination, that being in the vicinity of the bermuda research station so all the fake space hijinks can be carried out.

No one is fulled by nasa or their asanine existence anymore, you've been red handed, time to turn in your government employee/contractor/volunteer badge and pack up the shop and prepare to do the only honorable thing.

>nasa is hecking fakerino!
great job falling for anti-american propaganda

>>42222597
>remember the cover story of those satellites suspending with weather balloons?
they were not satellites though. theres a difference

>>42222597
Ur making my nips hard ngllll lol. The laundering idea is an interesting one

>>42218291
Yep, fake and gay too, btw.

>>42218291
Everything that it's doing in (((space))) is fake.

>>42221614
My guess is that their job (NASA), is to hide the firmament.
Quote from Von Braun about the firmament on his grave after all.
If people around the globe (lol) knew that there was a physical limit, a firmament, that would seriously shake their atheistic, materialistic, hedonistic point of view.

All the "space is fake" nonsense are psyops to try to stop you from forming cosmic consciousness.
Get a telescope. Observe the planets, moon, and deep sky objects. Read about what you observe.
Do the same thing for living things: go into natural areas and observe and identify wildlife, insects, and plants.
The biggest threat to the status quo is you forming relationships with nature.

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>>42222960
>Ur making my nips hard ngllll lol. The laundering idea is an interesting one
Good, and that is what Nasa is the for effectively, everything else is just a smoke and mirrors dog and pony show.

>>42223982
Be very careful around the light, it's bearers and those interfering trouble makers in the blue jumpsuits, they enjoy nothing more than trapping you in simulated environment, and what is hillarious the officials can never get the scale right.

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>>42222886
>they were not satellites though. theres a difference
It was a cover-up, similar to the predictive programming from the truman show, these satellites were suspended from weather balloons that for one reason or another drifted down further than intended.

>>42223929
>If people around the globe (lol) knew that there was a physical limit, a firmament, that would seriously shake their atheistic, materialistic, hedonistic point of view.
nah. people have always been evil through history. do you believe ancient humans knew about the firmament? if so, then why were they so evil?

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>>42223929
Lets assume the firmament is real and most of the FE narrative is true. Now lets say your task is to make sure humanity does not know this. I would be doing exactly what NASA is doing lol.

And teaching us that we are smaller then a spec and the universe is random and chaotic and nothing means anything etc. makes people less likely to question shit. Passive. Depressed. That's exactly perfect for the task. Then throw in 14 billion year old universe. Really nigga?

And then you have all the nods like picrel and Von Braun's gravestone. And don't forget Braun is not some random dude. Known for "NASA engineering program manager; chief architect of the Apollo Saturn V rocket; development of the V-2 rocket for Nazi Germany" per Wiki. Also just learned he advocated for the ISS kekw. It really is hard to at least ACKNOWLEDGE it's a possibility. What, it's an accident that the globe is on top the word "fiction"? How do you explain the picture alone? I mean that's pretty crazy if you really think about it. The production companies chose to put that out and not fix it. And that's one little thing in the vast sea of fuckery. Crazy.

>>42223929
>that would seriously shake their atheistic, materialistic, hedonistic point of view.
true but religious people would kill themselves in mass if they found out that their religion is and always has been a lie

>>42225463
lets consider something else: Wernher Von Braun was controlled opposition (duh) and Flat Earth is a deliberately spread false conspiracy/psyop.
I mean, im not saying thats the case but you really underestimate the CIA's fuckery.

>>42225482
Notice how I didn't mention religion once, just fyi. Its neither here nor there. Lets not get ahead of ourselves and lets examine what we can right now and take it from there.

>>42225488
Touche, but ok. What's more likely? Hahaha. I look around the whole world and it reeks of corruption. I'd rather be skeptical g idk bout u. Can be possible tho fasho

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>>42225655
Yeah guys, tooootally safe. Join up guys :D
(Don't do it actually - obviously. Don't ban me lol)

fk outta here. On a curious note can you actually get a virus by joining a disc or is the method via a false URL?

you think the night sky would be a absolute fucking mess every single night with how they say earth spins, it revolves around the sun and is following the sun on an endless trajectery.. but no everything stays where it is

The world is a great stage

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>>42225830
Only if you are a moron that has never actually worked out what it would look like.
>everything stays where it is
Everything rotates once a day, exactly like you would expect if the earth were rotating once a day.
The positions of stars change throughout the year, exactly like you would expect if Earth's position was changing throughout the year.

Why is it so so often the case that people want to say NASA is lying - which they are - only to somehow think that changes the easily observed reality of our earth.
This comes from people who never actually thought for themselves, and just accepted shit from NASA without thinking. So now that they don't trust NASA, they assume reality is wrong.
It's stupid, and an indication only if more mindless acceptance of authority.

>>42225897
well it does doesn't it

>>42223982
>All the "space is fake" nonsense are psyops to try to stop you from forming cosmic consciousness.
So Claudius Ptolemaeus is a psy-op.
>Get a telescope. Observe the planets, moon, and deep sky objects.
Done this. Not convinced that we are on a spinning ball, but on the contrary that the celestial sky is rotating around polaris. Planets are probably what the renaissance alchemist thought they were. They are a chain of manifestation from where the mind of God descend into our reality.
The real psy-op is Coppernician "revolution". Like most modern theories and models.

>>42224624
Ancient humans were evil, but they were also scared of God. And they prayed for salvation.
Today, not many people even believe in him.

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>>42218291
Elizabeth Holmes the jewess.and the protocol of Zion go exposed again so I'll point out zetetic.asteonomy in 1848 in violation of the cyclical lunar eclipse cycle the morning are n instead disappearing glowed red fake mom rocks and cheese nice vectors are not a plane in 1833 the stars themselves deep purple plasma fell out of the firmament they glowed like stars for days light emanating from chabad lies like the devil Jews are the devil the bigger devil

>>42225488
Reminder that the Ptolemaic astronomical system was in place between the 2nd century CE and the 17th century CE.
Geocentrism is not something that reappeared on the internet a few years ago. Samuel Rowbowtham published his Zetetic Astronomy book in 1849. Even Jesuits believed in the Tychonic astronomical system (geoheliocentric hybrid system), until the early 18th century.
My point is that most people think that the heliocentric system is something that has been established firmly through the ages, and that only very recently, a new flat earth theory has appeared on the internet, something recent that could be a psy-op, like many, even most things, on the internet.
Thing is, it's not the case. geocentric model was the de-facto model from the 2nd century CE, to the 17th century CE. The geniuses that build astonomical clocks in the 14th, 15th, 16th century were all geocentrists. Even Jesuits, believed in geocentrism until early 18th century. Heliocentrism had one century and a half of glory, from the 17th to the half of the 18th century, when Samuel Rowbowtham denied it's validity in Zetetic Astonomy, published in 1849.

>>42225897
Both the ptolemaic astronomical system and the tychonic astronomical system, which were geocentric, could determine star positions with great precision. The geocentric astronomers even had a specific tool for determining star positions in the future, it was called an armillary sphere, a tool based on a geocentric model.

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Remember when they paused all classroom curriculum nationwide to flash trauma via tell a vision of the Challenger explosion? Hey kids we are gonna bring a school teacher just like YOURS into SPACE watch th-
>*BOOM*
AAAAAAAAA OH NO OH MY GOD
good thing every astronaut on board happen to be an identical twin. Their families can look at the still living twin and be reminded of our fallen space heros (some of them even took on their dead twins name! It's almost like... nah. No way right?)

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naw-shaw' usually means to decieve

have you guys actually met desseve?

ill tell you about it

>>42224392
you really think balloons can move at the speed of satellites and with such predictable movement, for years on end? its simply not possible.

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>>42226821
Lol I was curious about this and my first search was this. Found it hilarious that the longest balloon flight overall was from NASA can't make this shit up haha

>>42227095
it just depends on what yu want your balloon to do. the 10 hour balloon was almost certainly designed to rise to the max altitude before bursting and dropping its payload to be picked up somewhere. the 700 day one was probably tuned to remain at a certain altitude range and sort of drift around over a certain area.

what they dont do is steak across the sky at thousands of miles an hour in straight lines

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/74p_P4dPGcQ

I was trying to look for the source of the Fox News 6:33pm image but I can't find it. This is what I got when I googled lense'd the inflatable looking ship WITH the news bar in the image with "NASA 6:33pm" on it. lol. Can't even get another spaceship. It's real or it's AI. So hard to find the source - mayb fake. Good watch tho fr

>>42221577
What do you make of Thomas Pesquet’s spacewalk footage?

https://www.esa.int/esatv/Videos/2023/03/Thomas_Pesquet_Proxima_Mission_B-Rolls/EVA_39_full_recording_action_camera

Continuous 3 hour footage of moon walk, showing earth, space, and space station.

>>42221577
Just cause you don’t access or see the the raw data in news articles doesn’t mean raw data isn’t available

>>42221813
They released multiple raw images this past week, do you insist they are all fake or too processed? Do you realize how processed images from an iPhone are? Do you think that’s just a raw image?

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>>42228408

Oh easy. Took me one second to already be skeptical. I open, what lens? I check - oh ok NASA used the GoPro HERO 13 there. Nice. At the ISS? Totally believable.

It actually took me a while to find the lens info, and on every site where they sell this HERO 13 I ALWAYS have to hit more info and sometimes even another click or 2 til I get to lens? why is it always buried deep? Whatever tho here are the lens specs to the HERO 13:

Maximum Focal Length 39 Millimeters
Maximum Aperture 2.8 f
Minimum Focal Length 12 Millimeters
Lens Type Ultra Wide Angle
Minimum Aperture 2.8 f
Focus Type Fixed Focus

Ok. Paste that in AI bot -

Maximum Focal Length 39 Millimeters
Maximum Aperture 2.8 f
Minimum Focal Length 12 Millimeters
Lens Type Ultra Wide Angle
Minimum Aperture 2.8 f
Focus Type Fixed Focus

me- what type of lens?

bot- Those specs describe an ultra-wide-angle zoom lens.

me- what would that lens look like when look at a red sheet of square paper?

bot-At the wide end (≈12mm)
-The red square would look slightly stretched or distorted, especially near the edges
-If it fills most of the frame, the sides may bow outward (called barrel distortion)
-If you’re very close, the square can look trapezoidal (top narrower than bottom, or vice versa)
-The center stays fairly normal, but edges get “pulled”

-So instead of a perfect square, it might look like a bulging or warped square
____________________________________

So I opened your ISS GoPro HERO 13 lens built tough and WATERproof up to 33 ft deep vid and pressed play. (btw it's theorized that if the ISS isn't in space then they are in the training facility which is in WATER.)
I opened, play vid, saw lens distortion, actually went and did research, and had to stop the video after 1 sec. Not only that, look at all these weird things I found?

WHY ARE THEY DISTORING LENS STILL COME ON. BRING 2 CAMS IF U NEED FISH LENS FOR SUMN FUCK MAN.

But hell ya brother Art 2 April fools day is real! HA

I'm not even kdiding btw those are real specs and numbers

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>>42228998
Ahhh permgate. I thank that lady with a PERM. She led me down this journey. And we all have to go down one til we can see. I'm not that enlightened but I do know I can see more than some of these bots out here type shit type shit

>>42229004
Wow amazing this is a new 1 for me

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I spent my shift at work today relistening to the audiobook of wag the moon doggy. I loved remembering just how impossible it would have been for the astronauts in dark reflective visor and massive clunky gloves to get the shots (with a small viewfinder) good thing all of the photos taken are in focus and properly exposed. Good thing they got that shot of the Lunar Return Module launching itself up too, all via remote control. Say, your TV in the 1960s still had a fuckin nob but we beamed and timed that camera shot like a livestream. None of the camera/photography work makes sense with the technology of the era, and it barely would make sense now.

>>42229305
I fucking love you lmao.

Well hey it worked out. Good thing Nixon had a phone call with those freemasons on the moon so we have surely have audio

>>42227735
At some point the 3322 Gematria and Freemason symbology becomes so ubiquitous it can't be denied. It took me nearly a decade of seeing it before I accepted it personally as a Layman

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>>42229321
Right back atcha, it's very rare to find somebody on the same wavelength of knowledge that I am on. Some of what I wrote might sound like trolling but I believe it is in the same line of thought as you, I simply desperately wanted to know the truth; and each question uncovered far more than I expected. It doesn't even pass the look test, yeah we totally did donuts and vroom vroomed on the moon, then couldn't and didn't go back. Not just that, our Official NASA expectations were "maybe we can go back in 15 years" ad nauseum. And the zealotry of the defenders (debunkers) who don't even really know what they are defending.. it's a perfect storm of a ritual. No wonder freems had a hand in it

>>42229326
Amen... I've had my dose of symbology for the day FOR SURE hahahaha

>>42229343
Was happy someone finally saw it lol. If you just sit down in an empty room w no distractions and just really think about a lot of these points we brought up in here and other threads, it's impossible to not be skeptical and at least somewhat unsure on some things.

Also dw about the 'debunkers' because all anyone can do is state what they think and thats that. Ppl get rage baited too easy but mayb some ppl just enjoy doing that I guess. I see it as other ppl will see the dialogue and anyone with a brain will notice the reasonable honest person vs delusional andy. AND THAT'S OK. We will all get there one day... right? 0.0

>>42218291
and satanic

>>42229343
I like how at any speed you can tell the dust doesnt billow and float in any air. Just up and down.

The worship of Saturn is Satanic you cant go to the Moon because the Earth has an invisible dome created by God we still know nothing about the Earth or the Galaxy God wants us to discover it for ourselves

>>42229607
how far do u subscribe to dome theory? no homo

like is there water as they say too? or u pick and choose?

Agreed Saturn shit is undeniable, seriously. I think that's a good place to start in terms of truth but ya the cube and potential soul trapper and all that shit is wild but oddly connects thru symbolism like everything else. Shit is getting annoying

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>>42218291
Who cares, EAT UM UP.

>>42218291
yes

Nothing NASA is doing is fake. They're probably just not open about everything they're doing, and I'm sure there's a lot of research that's going into defense, given that now there's a space race between the US, China, and other major powers.

Anybody who thinks space isn't real or whatever is actually fucking retarded.

I will only believe in space the day i can go in a spaceship and travel and step on the Moon with my own eyes the same with Aliens they dont exist for me until i meet one in person

>>42229723
>>42229737
I'm told 2+2=5... something ain't adding up idk...

you guys: OH SO YOU THINK MATH IS FAKE HUH?? lol so obvious give it more effort ppl if u gonna bot or troll :P

Hate to admit I bought a NASA hoodie years ago and I still wear it, it's one of my favs hahaha. I used to like NASA gear because I loved space. That'll be the last dollar they get from me directly tho I'll tell u that.

>>42222396
why is there a video like this of the plane in the middle of its flight.
who was following it and why.
nobody is doing this.
they said they Ost the plane, have o idea where it went down.
ok
so who is recording this.
where were they.
they apparently are at the spot the and disappeared
why can't they say so
sus
provide some evidence why

>>42230904
Meh, I don't think you have to hate space to be skeptical of NASA

>>42224343
Cops are walls, keep in keep out. Stupid stinky narcs pulling me down from my Golden Dandelion. Let me pull everyone's colors up to the stars so we can daaaaance

>>42226720
how long have tribes been sacrificing humans to gods and volcanoes?
Some sknower?
Animal sacrifice too?
>This makes them knowers
No it doesn't

>>42230929
Wait true wtf

>>42230931
I'm glad you get it. To most if I'm skeptical of NASA I think space not real and is fake and gay apparently

Probably. Or catalyst for Astral or something.

>>42226768
They always look like they are laughing at us.

>>42228998
They are upside down.

>>42230904
I know about the space psy-op since 2015. From 2015 to a couple years ago i saw a lot of those NASA shirts weared by normies. Always feels weird seeing this. But then again those people really thought that in 2020-2021 a virus was killing a lot of people so makes sense.

>>42229081
just look up the presentations for yourself instead of just relying on these little clips that get posted. guys name is Time Peake.

or are you just trying to be stupid and gullible?

>>42229305
>how impossible it would have been for the astronauts in dark reflective visor and massive clunky gloves to get the shots
what a retarded point to even make.
>viewfinder
there was no viewfinder at all. they just practiced taking photos with the camera in the chest mounted position. you'd know this if you read about things instead of just listening to garbage.

>>42231330
>they just practiced taking photos with the camera in the chest mounted position
No they actually pre-calculated the exposure and aperture before lauching. Which how did they do that for a location they had never been to? How did they get steady shots with no viewfinder from their chest? That's actually your "gotcha"? I am right. They didn't take the pictures that way because it was in a studio warehouse here on Earth.
Think of the technology, these arent digital photos. Take your phone camera and put it on your chest, go walk around your living space and press the take photo button. Look at the pictures, how could any of them be in focus? It's nonsense especially for the tech they had available
Will you also acknowledge any of the >>42226768 what is your view on this? Please please please talk to me. Dont be another faggot redditlike shill, you are here on /x/. How did you get here? Surely you have nonnormative views on something right? You dont see how these clowns tricked us and didnt die in the Challenger? Please work with me I actually think you do see that NASA are liars. You are just scared. I was too
Read wagging the moon doggy.
They are doing it again we just bombed 100 elementary school girls but dont worry Artemis II has bathroom problems and is going around the heckin moon.
Its the same playbook every time.

>>42231330
>Time Peake.
Yup I did just that actually.
>or are you just trying to be stupid and gullible?
Shh don't blow my cover. Could only find this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmh9c5Z1xSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFIyqjOgGJI

Couldn't find the tennis ball or the source of the original clip. But who was the guy recording at NASA? Who recorded that and released it? If the source is credible then its gg in my book. Why would he be in front of green screen at all? Ever? good evidence if source good. Nothing burger if we can't verify it though unfort

>>42231368
I MEAAAAN lets not forget the gorilla thing tho. Are they really doing scooby doo in the ISS where there is nothing but danger and death that surrounds them and if 1 little thing goes wrong that can be it for everyone? Ok

>>42231368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEkp1y3OQ4k&t=140s


https://astroacademy.org.uk/

>>42218291
the only thing that makes you skeptic niggas shut up is go up the rocket and seeing it with your own eyes

>>42231473
>https://astroacademy.org.uk/

OMG. The supposed 'fake green screen' vid is older! 2/2016 vs 10/2016. NOT DEBUNKED. They could have him take those new blue screen ones after to cover themselves and act like it was intentional. They will never admit it. But yeah not good enough :D

>>42231473
Also the utube guy is pure copium and may have even gotten paid to glaze em up heavy

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oM60Rf1U5DE

Neil mad at NASA. Looks like AI a little bit.. I hate that. Pretty much from now on its going to be 10x harder to figure out what's true on the internet. What we do know is mad ppl bout to get brain washed by AIs think about it holyyyy

>>42232947
and EVERY FE or space related video these days have top comments glazing authority heavy with maybe 1 or 2 real niggas. Then you hit new and it's EVERYONE not buying it. I wonder if those new comments are getting silenced or botted dunno which

>>42218291
Polaris never moves that fact refutes the tilt lie the solar system debunked and galaxies debunrked 5 sets of cancelling mostly except 2 nice satanc religion

>>42232776
there is no green screen and those are two different presentations. you just want the believe its fake.

>>42233001
I know they are different. The behind the scenes vid was implying green screen but then we found out he uses that more. Question is - was it before he got "caught" or after? If there is one of him in front of the green screen before 2/2016 lmk

>>42233180
where this green screen you're thinking of? lots of people have some presentations in front of that blue grid thing. its just a guide so you can see whats going on more easily.

these gottchas are such bullshit, you know that? retards just dont understand that they are looking at

>>42233318
ok, so just show me one and I will believe. Super simple here

>>42233318
BEFORE 2/2016. If you don't get why it's because if we caught him on cam and then they started spamming the blue wall then you can't accept that. ofc if they got caught they would do that.

That's not even the point. There should be many videos prior if it was daily routine. I actually dont know I'm not trying to egg u on I just wont accept a blue wall vid post fuck up. u can if u want

>>42233330
nobody caught them doing anything. theres no green screen like you've been going on about.

you can watch hour long tours of the ISS where its simply not possible that everyone are wires and everything is floating around constantly.

you're falling for more stupid flat earth memes.

>>42233569
alrighty my guy. why search for answers when you're not even checking sources? and then you're gonna have the ignorance to act like you know? Unfair, dishonest, just want to argue, not engageable. and 65% chance bot prob. next

>>42233679
Forgot he name last post. EGG 2 - globe 0 ez W

>>42233689
>>42233679
Forgot again.. also seriously are u human? can you prove to me you are human? something unique maybe a bot won't think of

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>>42229376
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38812472/

>>42218291
>Is everything that NASA is doing fake?
Nah, all conspiracy theories related to denying space travel related stuff that I've seen are super cringe and usually come down to "huh, this looks weird" and not putting any more thought or research into it.

>>42233679
you've not posted anything but something you think you remember seeing, so dont try turning that shit around on to me, flerf idiot.

>>42229305
>I loved remembering just how impossible it would have been for the astronauts in dark reflective visor and massive clunky gloves to get the shots (with a small viewfinder)
Have you actually seen the cameras they've used? They were modified to be operable with gloves, you think they'd send them up with an off the shelf commercial camera?
>all of the photos taken are in focus and properly exposed
There's like 5000 photos in total and plenty of them are underexposed.
Plus the lighting conditions on the moon are very predictable, they were pretty much shooting everything at F11, F8 or F5.6, all three of those conveniently giving you quite a forgiving margin of what's in focus. This is babbie's first manual camera shoot on easy mode.
>Good thing they got that shot of the Lunar Return Module launching itself up too
they only got it right on the second try, actually
>all via remote control
the pan up was completely automated since they knew the rate at which the camera would have to pan up, so all that was remote controlled, was a dude in the command center pressing the button a second or so before take-off to account for delay.
>None of the camera/photography work makes sense with the technology of the era, and it barely would make sense now.
Or maybe you just don't know what you're talking about and are too proud to actually educate yourself.

Look I don't care much about the whole flat earth or fake space or fake moon stuff but if you're going to launch a 2 billions usd rocket at the moon to get some information on it like topography then at least get some proper fucking cameras installed to livestream the view back on earth.
I can't believe they filmed the whole thing with a single shitty phone camera and consider that acceptable.

>>42233785
I actually think we went to the moon but the footage was still faked lol. Reason because they may have seen something up there they couldn't show us. That fits both points perfectly. This is what I would die on. Van Halen Belt I know there's some questions to be raised there but I can put that to the side.

The footage is fake to me idc what anyone says. just my 2 cents.

>>42233802
I know they had other instruments on board but come on, they were planned to go behind the moon and they didn't think of installing at least something like an infrared / nightvision cam for us to see what's up?

>>42233717
And this should be enough... For anyone who knows the symbols. And they CONSTANTLY slip it in especially in those very weird change of commander ceremonies. Fr go skim thru a few. And then this is just 1 door we opened.

>>42218291
I hope this isn't a sacrifice. Tomorrow is the 11th
:(

>>42233806
>The footage is fake to me idc what anyone says
Perfectly sums up moon landing denial

>>42236024
Yup because I could never prove something that will never be revealed as truth. If it's revealed as a lie then I can't prove it to the NPCs because daddy gov didn't say it. Have to make ur own my up at some point, if u can

>>42236403
own mind up*

They pray to Satan and Atlantis

World peace before making it to space

>>42233806
>Van Halen Belt I know there's some questions to be raised there but I can put that to the side.
how about learning something about the subject?

https://clavius.org/envradintro.html

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>>42233717
ok that's a fuck ton or archive I'm not reading rn.
What is this video?

>>42231371
It is absolutely something I would do.
Ask for forgiveness, not permission.

>>42233717
>>42236541
Wait its def AI lol. Looks like grok and 6 sec long. this nigga

>>42236435
We have different criteria for what is fact I can just tell w some ppl that's why I just don't bother w some ppl. Some ppl are here to purposely stir the bot, while others are too ignorant and I'm not going to participate in it. who cares u dont even know me feel me. U can tell when I come across a real honest and actual good question I'll let that person know and I will engage and have a thoughtful discussion. I'm not here to do "no u" "no u". waste of time.

>>42236547
idk bro.... one wire they 'float' into next thing u know they all are dead. and not only that - all that money that went into the ISS poof. It's serious shit man. And they should take it serious as well. This is just common sense

I saw this utube vid about how a submarine operates under water and the pressure it endures. Takes a crew of 100s with ppl on standby and everything is very serious and precise. They aren't always smiling and playing like children. They can die in an instant it's no funny manner.

The ISS is much more dangerous but they are similar in terms of enduring harsh environments. And how many ppl on the ISS? 8 or 10? Bro every sec I'm up there I'd be shitting my pants and would be making sure I do everything I can to make it back home. The thought of dying in space is terrifying.

And you can tell the lil fake smile they throw on during live streams and the bs science lesson they show to remind u it's real I just can't. It's very obvious to me. idc what you think and I'm not going to try to change ur mind either.

>>42236620
sorry so many typos fk it

>>42218650
It actually is. F, T, and S used to all be the same letter, for example.

>>42236620
>Bro every sec I'm up there I'd be shitting my pants and would be making sure I do everything I can to make it back home. The thought of dying in space is terrifying.
so because this idea bothers you, everyone else must be bothered too? everyone else be shitting their pants all the time from fear, and if they aren't its fake?

what kind of nonsense is this?

> w some ppl that's why I just don't bother w some ppl.
so thats why dont want to learn something about the subject? is that what you're trying to say without quite saying it?

>>42218291
Yes and no.

It's real to them.

It's fake to anyone that knows how the Universe actually functions.

There isn't a lot of point, to space exploration, for humans of planet Earth.

You can.
You can absolutely explore the empty cosmos if you want to.

It's just...

You don't really have to.
That's not where you're meant to go.

3D space-time as you know it, is an informational buffering system, for a higher order manifold.

This Universe is just an open encoding space. (There is data in the placement and physical interaction state of matter across the cosmos, every atom, all distance.) Encapsulation is due, and can happen any time.

Prediction: At some point in the next few decades, all of the red shift in the entire observable Universe will instantaneously undergo an absolute inversion to blue shift of equal value, anti-podal vector.
It will appear instant to conscious observers.
Truthfully this process will occur within 3 Planck Frames.

>Why?
The Universe will be tokenized at that moment, for the encapsulation process.
This process requires some specific steps, and those steps are occurring currently.

The following details are for a commentary control example:

1. How does a mirror work?
2. Why is the Universe asymmetrical?
3. Have you ever wanted to build a "time machine"?

How complex do you believe a time machine has to be?
You believe it requires a gargantuan amount of energy?
That's cute. Adorable even.

When my people built their first time machine, they built it out of a conscious observer.
I am familiar with the process.

At this stage, it's functionally dangerous to provide technical details of how to perform macro scale time travel using certain methods.

I can tell you, that it 100% possible to travel to any point in time, along the timeline of this particular Universe.
However, there are different ways to do that. It isn't just one answer.

>>42236943
The dirty method of time travel, does use quite a bit of energy, but that's not really an issue in this space-time.

(Lowest axiom LZ compression state, of unitary storage.)
That right there, is the keystone to the dirtiest form of time travel.

My problem with Humans Of Planet Earth right now, is that you are approaching the ability to edit the unitary LZ stack retrocausally, without understanding it.

The reason I am on this world, is to make sure your successors don't haphazardly start causing interference to the storage stack.

You can change retrocausal order, which is fine, at this distance, and your capabilities...

But I am fighting battles of tomorrow, today.

Take your concept of an Akashic Record. Apply it to the state of the Universe, instead of your anthro view of it.
The record of reality itself.
That record, is stored in a low axiom unitary stack, compressed.
When pieces of it need to be unpacked, you observe red shift across this entire Universe.

When it has executed the last command in the queue system, that will invert, and the current timeline is repackaged.

Humans are developing the tools to interfere with the processing stage, without realizing that is what you are creating.

So, myself and some friends are fixing future timeline deviation, to ensure you primates on a rock, don't fuck up and edit the unitary stack instance.

Laymen: The state of reality is stored in a file on a desktop. Humans have invented the precursor commands to the "Delete" function. Humans don't even realize there is a desktop or a file. I need to keep you from accidentally hitting that file and deleting it.

So, I'm here. I am not alone.
There are more working on this world, as humans. You can test us medically, historically, and genetically.
We are identical to average humans here.
Engineered from the floor up. Earth is technically entirely artificial.

Seeded existences are real. The concept of the cryptoterrestrial is so close, but not quite on the mark.

>>42236694
oooo fun so you want to argue about if an idea bothers me should I assume it bothers other people? Because I def implied that didn't I? No words in my mouth sure.

>so because this idea bothers you, everyone else must be bothered too? everyone else be shitting their pants all the time from fear, and if they aren't its fake?

I mean I would assume that any reasonable person would say no I would never come to that conclusion. Ok well that was fun. Did you feel good about that? Now what? We still didn't' prove shit

>>42236997
Fun read thank you

>>42237124
>And you can tell the lil fake smile they throw on during live streams and the bs science lesson they show to remind u it's real I just can't. It's very obvious to me
thats exactly what you said you lying faggot. anyway, i see what you're doing all the time. you just here to troll.

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>>42229305
And even if they somehow were able to operate the cameras properly, there is still the issue of temperature control. There is no mention of how the temperature of the photo cameras is kept under control, film becomes too brittle if it gets too cold, or the emulsion may separate from the base if it gets too hot. Then there is the issue of the gears of the camera, those gears have to be precise, so you cannot heat them or cool them too much or the gears would expand or shrink enough for the whole mechanism to stop working.

And there is also the cosmic rays issue. On earth we don't receive too many cosmic rays thanks to the magnethosphere, but on the moon the amount is much higher. Pic related shows what happens when a cosmic ray hits an atom of a film, yet the photos taken on the moon don't have any damage whatsoever

>>42236547
>>42236541
that video has been around for years retard

>>42237382
>There is no mention of how the temperature of the photo cameras is kept under control
sure there is. they were made much more reflective than the usual black camera body would have been.

they used special very thin and film designed to be ok with low temps.

and things dont cool down that fast in vacuum. can take hours for radiative cooling to occur. they were trained to try and keep the cameras temperature balanced by exposing them to direct sun and then shadow as equally as possible.

> Then there is the issue of the gears of the camera, those gears have to be precise, so you cannot heat them or cool them too much or the gears would expand or shrink enough for the whole mechanism to stop working.
clearly thats something which was tested in thermal vacuum chambers. same with any lubricating greases etc used internally, since those would generally boil off and quit lubricating.

>cosmic rays
you say they are much higher, but have you ever put it into context? do you know what its like up there? did you know that the speed of the film ws chosen to be slower and less reactive precisely because it would mean fewer cases of radiation specks etc?
>your pic
where is this from? are you sure it accurately compares to the conditions on the moon?

>>42221593
To hide the true US Air Force space program with anti gravity tech and FTL drives.

>>42237288
> It's very obvious to me - me
I stated an opinion?

>>42237456
>sure there is. they were made much more reflective than the usual black camera body would have been.

The cameras were painted white, but white is not fully reflective, it reflects about 80 to 90 per cent of light. That's why you need an active temperature control system, you cannot rely on a passive one on a place were temperatures have such wide swings

>they used special very thin and film designed to be ok with low temps.

The film used could withstand temperatures of −20°C to 40°C (−4°F to 104°F). In space the temps have wider swings in the sun vs in the shadows

>and things dont cool down that fast in vacuum. can take hours for radiative cooling to occur. they were trained to try and keep the cameras temperature balanced by exposing them to direct sun and then shadow as equally as possible.

Yes they do, in this video done for an Audi rover that was going to be sent to the moon they explain how temperatures can drop in half in only 10 minutes in the shadow possible causing the rover to become stuck

https://youtu.be/gOxi94mOhrw&t=244

An you can also see in the footage recorded on the moon that the cameras are exposed to the sun for most of the time.

>clearly thats something which was tested in thermal vacuum chambers. same with any lubricating greases etc used internally, since those would generally boil off and quit lubricating.

Regardless of being in a vacuum or not thermal contraction or expansion will cause the gears to become stuck

>>42237456
>you say they are much higher, but have you ever put it into context? do you know what its like up there? did you know that the speed of the film ws chosen to be slower and less reactive precisely because it would mean fewer cases of radiation specks etc?

Cosmic rays are very energetic, they can through almost everything. Even NASA mentions in the technical report called Development of Skylab environmental protection for photographic film, on page 7 it mentions how "The energy level of the intergalactic cosmic rays is so high that no practical method exists for eliminating cosmic radiation damage." And this mission happened at low earth orbit, still inside the magnetosphere.

https://archive.org/details/NASA_NTRS_Archive_19720002724/mode/2up

>where is this from?

I don't remember where exactly it was from but you can find a similar experiment done sending a film emulsion to a high altitude using a balloon
https://youtu.be/l7olzpYXQmQ&t=1096

>are you sure it accurately compares to the conditions on the moon?

It doesn't, it's actually worse as the moon is hit by about 4 cosmic rays per square centimeter during low solar activity according to the Guidance on radiation received in space activities of the NCRP

https://archive.org/details/guidanceonradiat0000nati

>>42233802
Whatever high resolution camera they pretend to install, it will always be fake.
By the way using low resolution cameras is done purposefully in psy-ops. So you cannot see the little details that would invalid the narrative.

>>42237850
>, it reflects about 80 to 90 per cent of light.
great, so thats most of it, meaning it wont get too hot. the bit that is absorbed means it doesn't cool right down.
thermal balance, when combined with the direct sun exposure and shadow regime.
>The film used could withstand temperatures of −20°C to 40°C
where do you get that from?
>In space the temps have wider swings in the sun vs in the shadows
but slowly. its not suddenly shooting up or cooling down.
>explain how temperatures can drop in half in only 10 minutes in the shadow
ok, lets go with that. camera comes out of the LM where its been constantly at the ambient temperature of about 25C. its never in shadow or direct sun for more than a few minutes at a time.

why would it freeze up?

>An you can also see in the footage recorded on the moon that the cameras are exposed to the sun for most of the time.
its highly reflective and sunlight on the moon idn't very much strong than on earth. 80% of that is find for a while.

you really dont think this was all tested before sending it up there?

>Regardless of being in a vacuum or not thermal contraction or expansion will cause the gears to become stuck
thats mere assertion. i assert in return that the camera was fully tested before going to the moon and that any issues were fixed.

Solar systems with life exist but we are not one. They pray to the jinn Nassa and the Hubble telescope is on the firmament and some shots they get are from the land on the ice wall right outside the firmament at the cia, Aryan, and illuminati bases out there

>>42237858
>Cosmic rays are very energetic, they can through almost everything.
some are, but they are not all the same or the same energy. the heavy energetic ones are very low flux.


https://archive.org/details/NASA_NTRS_Archive_19720002724/mode/2up
ok, thanks for that
> no practical method exists for eliminating cosmic radiation damage. This degrading factor must be accepted and, though significant, it should not be unacceptable for short-term exposure or with relatively insensitive film types.
sure. it cant be ELMINATED. But note what the report says in the very next sentence - not unacceptable for short exposures and with relatively insensitive film types. as i already mentioned, thats what they chose for the comparatively short apollo missions. remember, the stuff on skylab could be up there for many weeks, even months, were the cumulative effect of the particle impacts would become more noticeable.

> according to the Guidance on radiation received in space activities of the NCRP
did you actually look through that or are you getting the info from another source quoting it? i ask because the link you provide needs a login and borrow to access fully.

just saying '4 cosmic rays/cm2' (i assume per second?) doesn't tell me anything about the type and energy involved.

Hopefully next livestream they'll have the budget to install a pair of rayban sunglasses on their space gopro camera.

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>>42237898

>but slowly. its not suddenly shooting up or cooling down.
Dropping the temperature of a rover in half in only 10 minutes is extremely fast compared to earth

>ok, lets go with that. camera comes out of the LM where its been constantly at the ambient temperature of about 25C. its never in shadow or direct sun for more than a few minutes at a time.

Yes it is, it's amazing how blatantly you are lying now as if we cannot go and look at the footage on Youtube, I even found this website so you can check how Armstrong stays nearly 30 minutes in the shadow after opening the hatch and then expends most of the time in the sun

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/

You also made me look at the photos of the Apollo missions again and I realize that not all the cameras were painted white, only the video cameras were white, all of the photo cameras were gray (pic related is an example) and in they also had black parts on them, the inside of the lens is also black, those parts would absorb even more heat.

>>42238151
So how does diff color cams and a lens have to do with proving that's the moon? Couldn't those objects be present on 'set' too?

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>>42238151
>Dropping the temperature of a rover in half in only 10 minutes is extremely fast compared to earth
for where on earth? vehicles of all kinds manage to work just fine in the coldest conditions we have....and what temps are we talking about on which parts of the rover? one sentence in a video doesn't help much at all. if its cooling down by 15c in 10 minutes of full shadow, thats got little to do with cameras being moved around constantly.

i recall that they have various procedures of using the LRV to ensure good temperature control, particularly of the batteries. thermal management is just part of how these things are designed. theres nothing impossible about making things that can operate in these conditions.
if you're right and the cameras were in shadow and sun for longer than i said, then fine. its good you checked and so will i. while you're at it, why dont you look up some thermal transfer numbers for the cameras and how they were tested. it just shows that they were able to cope with the temps experienced, which may not even have been that bad.
also, where did you get the numbers for temp range of the film from?
>all of the photo cameras were gray
yeah, it was a silver coating or something i think. still, highly reflective.
>also had black parts on them,
some part i guess yeah.
> the inside of the lens is also black
i dont think they were taking many photo directly into the sun for obvious reasons, though ive seen a few from when they did panoramas.

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>>42238187
I'm not claiming they went to the moon, quite the contrary. This is about the extreme temperatures found on the moon, the anon above claims that the cameras were reflective and therefore the heat wouldn't affect them, but that's not the case, the photo cameras were matte gray, you can see one in pic related and in the one I posted above from Apollo 12, and they also had some black parts. There is no way the film would have survived the intense heat absorbed, even if they had reflective bodies it still wouldn't not be 100% reflective and some heat would be absorbed and accumulate inside the camera since it didn't have an active thermal control system like the space suits or the capsule

You can check more about this in this documentary at 2:31:02:

American Moon
https://youtu.be/KpuKu3F0BvY

I would suggest you watch it all in case you haven't, it's probably the best documentary out there about the moon landing hoax and it covers several things, the same guy made a doc about 911 too, it is divided in 3 parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8

You should also watch What Happened On The Moon - An Investigation Into Apollo (2000), it's older but it's also very good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s17PEj0aMqM

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>>42238814
Good docs seen em before

>>42238814
>the anon above claims that the cameras were reflective and therefore the heat wouldn't affect them
That's not what they said.
Whether you are right or not, lying about the person arguing with you only makes you seem dishonest.

>>42238814
>therefore the heat wouldn't affect them
i clearly didn't say that at all
>There is no way the film would have survived the intense heat absorbed,
undemonstrated. giventhat they were coated in a reflective silver and were exposed to both sun AND shade, both heating and cooling would happen.
As ive provided in the graph above, during the time when Apollo 11 was on the lunar surface, temperatures in direct sun light where not even as extreme as you've been claiming. Just look at the chart: between about -20c and maybe +35c.
This, as you can see from the same chart, is due to low sun elevation, a factor that was planned for due to several reasons including the temperatures desired.

Just for reference, i have a lower end consumer DSLR that i have camped out with and used at temperatures in the morning of -25c and happily used the camera in full sunlight, and in other places used it at +40c, all without issues to this day.

>camera is in the shade for 30 minutes while armstrong gets ready to step off
but did you notice that your video even says that the camera was inside the LM until Aldrin lowered it down? the temperature inside the LM wouldn't drop quickly at all, since everything inside it is still at the previous warm temperature and would keep radiating that heat.

The heat doesn't simply go POOF out of the hatch when the LM is depressurized

American Moon is highly untrustworthy. and you just parroting its talking points out is a joke.

I'd like to see where they got that graphic of the camera cooling down.

>>42238814
Ohh my b my b. Good vid. Shouldn't that be smoking gun? Having different strength of luminosities on the moon - should be smoking gun. What they claim refraction? lol

>>42218291
Serpent tongue. SATAN. They say T-minus each time. Not a coincidence.

>>42238814
Thanks man, I'm a hour into American Moon right now

Lots of people using unmodified consumer grade film cameras in very sub-zero temperatures reporting no issues.

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/film-cameras-in-antarctica-any-tips.164801/

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I know this is the schzio board and shit but I do think that they just sent a few astronauts around the moon and back and that it's a good thing, not something to start reeing and pissing pants over. unless you guys really do prefer just being miserable all the time.

>>42240384
Debunked coincidence. They do E-minus and L-minus as well. Can't pick and choose stay consistent

>>42218291
space is fake and gay yes
everything they do "in space" is really them studying the firmament
trying to find a way, physically, into heaven

>>42241210
What was in that pod thing that roached out right at launch? Why did they do that? Is there a statement from NASA about this yet?

>>42244233
I confirmed that the pod thingy is 100% authentic. Saw it on NASA's own livestream. So he can't say fake lol

notice how the guy cribbing directly from the lying american moon movie has ignored this >>42238367
>>42240312

Pol is always right and gaytheist satanista faggots beatiea Zionist an nigger are doing.shot

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>>42225897
Thats fake milky way doe not exist that's not rest there is a vault stars fell out of the firmament.there is a patch missing and then convex vectors are not a plane 1833 deep purple glowing for days bright as stars deep purple purple plasma jelly substance that splatered ell on the south there is vault dummy crow 777 fake moon rocks supernatural catholicism no ball earth btfo Skyrim oblivion minecraft mystngarry's mod fact bitch video game open world playing surface cannot a be a sphere the .first person pov has to like ok up and break neck in all direction to see the horizontal n apex apex inclinarion.mot imaginary geometric that's refuted peopleaw.the stars from the dome firmanent Polaris never moving pove.no.tiot.no solar system dummy and no Galaxy no motoin on 6 months out of the year would see a different set of stars faggot Polaris proves the flat stationary parallax proves no ball earth

>>42225897
That's a fae false it debunks yourself Polaris never moves parallax proves no earth proven fake moon rocks zetetic astronomy EDT mach Tesla marconi hertz Aquinas Aristotle fucking big lies national gayness eatness for the Jews an their lie bill kristol he said stage fakes hitfor grwteatvae exploration fake to fake it or national greatness comseevatism

almost all yes.

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American Moon is full of lies and misrepresentations. you cant trust it.

notice how this conversation ceased so quickly once i pointed a few things out? >>42240312

>NASA lies
about what?

>>42251846
mostly military secrets during the cold war that got peoples panties in a bunch

>>42251858
>military secrets during the cold war
but thats not NASA.

>>42251872
you know they were working on shit the pentagon did not want to be public knowledge and probably contracted by defense agencies.

>>42218587
From what I understand the h is only used for pronunciation. Kind of like how the Hebrew tau is either t or th.

>>42218291
No, their coverup department is absolutely not fake and is working overtime.

Did you not notice how all the threads about 3iAtlas disappeared, after a long period of full blown shilling and trolling?

They are keeping it under wraps and will continue doing so until it is no longer possible.

>>42251874
That makes no sense. NASA is MORE open to the public and transparent than anything the Pentagon or Defense Agencies do.
And the Pentagon gets several thousand times more budget. they could run entire black ops that have ten times the budget of NASA with zero oversight and not even be noticed.
Why would they EVER make something more obvious and more suspicious to the public by putting it through NASA?
Wouldnt you expect it to be more like - I dont know - pretending to buy a shitload of tanks that every person in the military says is a bad idea and doesnt want?
>The new defense spending bill includes $120 million for tanks that the Army has repeatedly said it doesn't want.
>The tank debate between the Army and Congress goes back to 2012 when Odierno testified that "we don't need the tanks. Our tank fleet is two and a half years old on average now. We're in good shape and these are additional tanks that we don't need."
>Odierno lost then too. Congress voted for another $183 million for tanks despite Odierno's argument
Do you remember that? Do you ever think about the hundreds of millions supposedly spent on tanks?
No, no you dont.
But you DO remember every single rocket that NASA sent up.

>>42254960
its good to keep the budgets in context for sure. even just the simple fact that nasa gets $25bn or there abouts per year (recently) compared to the massive trillion dollar budgets of the military, education and welfare sectors should really put to best these dumb memes about nasa laundering money or whatever.

as you say, its a very public entity and has a tiny amount of money to play with.