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Is the mushroom far and away the best natural drug, or is there a competitor?
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>>42242659
I think the increased levels of cognition are unparalleled.
Cannabis is another one that comes to mind for being mild (low rate of side effects, low rate of addiction, low rate of dependency) that you can also be somewhat productive on. However, it's cognitive effects are pretty mid if you aren't using it for sustained effort (ie exercising or working while stoned). It's primarily for stress reduction, or meditative like qualities while working.
Many of the other natural drugs that familiar with (eg psychedelic cactus) seems to induce ego death as well, but with far less ecstacy. Mushrooms have your ego death, your self-reflection, and your ecstacy all rolled into one.
I get that by the Roman times they were doing "advanced polypharmacology", like that Mithradates the Great chap, which I believe was a posterchild of the Mithraism movement.
However, I think the basis of the silk road religions HAS to be mushrooms. Like, it has to be, right? Random parallels in myth aside, it just makes sense as the basis for a monotheistic gnostic ideology.
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>>42242659
This will sound like a shit answer but I believe the half-state between waking and sleeping, or lucid dreaming, is a better chemical experience.
I am still aware of my intoxication on mushrooms and the experience remains virtual, no matter how immersed and captivated I am by it I still feel 'effected' by it.
In lucid sleep, I am the effect and the dream is the reality. It is a realer experience, despite it's lesser vividity than being fully awake. I assume that is just how we experience the dream, that waking logic does not lend itself to capable function in that realm.
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>>42242689
Funny, I think mushrooms have several things in common with dreams. For one, the way you are incapacitated while taking a significant dosage is a bit like sleeping. I get that this could be true of several drugs, but mushrooms are just very prolific in certain climates.
I had this idea that maybe the steppe herders gave mushrooms to the village they were about to plunder, under the guise of "muh religious experience", and then after everyone took them, they would go in and steal the horses and rape the women. It's interesting that this drug has the potential for so much good and yet so much evil too.
Anyway, to the dream point, even though you become kind of incapacitated, another part of you is energized into an awake state, sort of forcing you into a hyper lucid dream. As long as you close your eyes, the dream takes over.
>better chemical experience
Better how?
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>>42242716
Well, it sometimes let you meet the ones the jewish elites try to become. I once even woke up in room full of demons and other creatures, good and evil, on a heroic dose of LSD and they even said stuff like "oh he even woke up!". I then got introduced to a lot of them which was VERY overwhelming. Some of them were dangerous and it felt like I would die if I look them in the eyes. One of them said something like "You will die in 10...9...8" etc and he kept counting down. I thought it was a prank but I got really scared when he reached 3 and suddenly woke up in my bed. I still heard him say "2..." even after I woke up which scared the shit out of me. Then I said "Please I don't want to die yet" and the countdown stopped. This all happened at the start of this year and I still can't tell if it was a dream or not.
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>>42242707
What the fuck is this opinion. People have been doing mushrooms since we have existed. LSD makes me fucking stupid, everything feels deep but when the trip is over I realise all my thoughts were fucking stupid. Mushrooms are where the real revelations happen.
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>>42242714
>I had this idea that maybe the steppe herders gave mushrooms to the village they were about to plunder, under the guise of "muh religious experience", and then after everyone took them, they would go in and steal the horses and rape the women
Why would you envision something so brutal with no basis in fact and then post about it
Most people don't feel incapacitated on mushrooms, I used to go hiking on them and I could push myself a lot harder than I could sober.
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>>42242798
>Why would you envision something so brutal with no basis in fact and then post about it
I just have a sense that very powerful groups control mushroom cultivation, or try to, and I'm not sure why. I at least imagine that there is a lot of war and manipulation in its history.
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>>42242659
I bought this book like 5 years ago and have yet to read it. That's when I believed in evolution and that shrooms were a key factor in that final giant leap we took from our monkey to human cycle. But then I found out we were most likely genetically engineered. I'm sure shrooms still played a role but is it worth to read the book still?
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>>42242659
all natural cannabis is best, not the over-intoxicating stuff with way too much THC, just a nice 15%-20% THC strain and maybe a warm cup of joe, that's all I need for my meditation and painting sessions
all you need is a canvas, some brushes, and some paint, or a good graphic display tablet with a touchpen or something, some coffee, a joint, a small brass bell, a tiny bowl of distilled water, a small pocket knife, a votive candle and a lighter, the altar, and whatever object will be the still life focus of my meditation and painting, which will act as the symbolic portal into my unconscious and project my consciousness into a particular sphere of existence. The symbolic nature of the object chosen is crucial, and based on correspondences found within the hermetic qabalah
I tried shrooms but I find they're a bit too extreme, it's hard to control the visions and direct them usefully. Microdosing doesn't really work because it's too weak, but a full 3g dose and above is too much because it can induce an OBE or moments of ego death. I find 1g doses are the goldilocks zone, but I don't really depend on them to be my "daily driver" so to speak. I use good ol fashioned weed for most mundane daily stuff. Shrooms I do maybe a couple times a year, on special occasions like an equinox or a solstice, and again, I don't do too much because then it just fucks you up for 3-4 hours and you can't get any real spiritual work done. Big doses are just like, for the catharsis of purging shit, getting bad energy out, or for when you need a kick of good energy or something. The smaller doses are best for just relaxing consciousness enough to let inspirations slip in, but that's what I use cannabis for, so I don't really use shrooms for that. You certainly could though.
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>>42242659
salvia is a cleaner trip, and iboga has better healing properties.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pfsUgtL9A&pp=0gcJCdoKAYcqIYzv
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>>42243818
ahah a based anon!
was scrolling to see these exact words
>natural cannabis is best
yes indeed
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luv u
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luv you too
also,
the natural cannabis grown from seed using pic related super insight for healing oneself
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>>42243081
Actually, the mushroom entity will be very excited if you go to it with a desire to learn or improve something that is unrelated to sex. Most people, or men at least, start out driven primarily by sex. Mushrooms help you let go of that somewhat.
Personally, the existential pain I have taken with me into mushrooms isn't so much the need for sex, but the feeling of detachment from women and from ever having a family. The grief of feeling that my life won't matter, that I have zero motivation to improve things just for my own hedonistic sake, and that there is no way for me to actually find an external source of motivation.
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>The grief of feeling that my life won't matter
Found this out without le mushroom, but you'll find that the only reason you think this is because you're still worried about other people's perception of you, tl;dr it's your ego's self image that's worried, not you, cause you've been told your whole life that's what's important and not the actual (you). The trick is to not give a fuck what other people think about you, because you come to realise most of what you thought was (you) is actually just projection other people, the severity of which differs from person to person. Letting go of your ego is really just letting go of shit people and society have projected onto you
>you MUST behave like this
>you MUST care about this
Only a small fraction of it actually comes from yourself. I am in the final stages of dissolving my ego completely and escaping the reincarnation loop trap, I've never actually done psilocybin but I do want to try some, I think it would give me that one final push to let go of the rest. I've heard that being in the right state of mind and having a clear intention going in is the most important thing, also supposedly most of the rewiring that happens is dependent on your real life stimuli during the actual trip so it's important to not be around people or situations that are negative otherwise it will fuck you up. That's why I think most people choose to do them alone and in the dark.
CBD/THC helped me along the way as well, but by no means did it do all the work, most of it had to come from me. If you're trying to be in tune with the spiritual realm more I would hold back on copious amounts of THC and focus more on CBD, or have an even balance at the very least. Getting high as a kite is more distracting than anything, cool yes, but distracting. You want just enough THC to get into the kind of "base" state or letting go, then rely more on CBD to relax your mind and guide you towards where you need to be.
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Narcissistic eggo killers please stop. We have seen this reddit trick before.
You know who has no eggo? Women have no eggo because they like getting dominated by men and they don't assert themselves.
Unless you think becoming a submissive woman is some kind of higher ideal spiritual form, you should stop psyopping yourself immediately.
Think before you make yourself a tranny.
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>>42245419
>Desire is what brings you back.
You have made a reason to desire not having desire. I have replied to tell you the solution cannot be told. Paradox is a matter of the frame one chooses to hold. Even as you look away you enter the fold.
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>>42245290
>women have no ego
LOL, that's how I know you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. You have everything the wrong way around, women are actually more egotistical than men, especially women these days. The ego is your inauthentic self that you use to interact with the world, it's basically a mask you wear that hides who you truly are underneath. And nobody embodies this more than the modern day woman, the disgusting whore who cakes her face in makeup knowing she's ugly underneath, the whore who thinks she deserves more than she actually does, the whore who pretends she's humble but doesn't have an ounce of humility, the whore who constantly plays the victim and thinks everyone else is to blame but herself. Actual ego made manifest, I mean they LITERALLY wear a clown mask on their face in public to fool people, you can't make this shit up. Their ego is physically manifesting in the world it's that inflated.
>they don't assert themselves
They are constantly asserting themselves, it's just done in a manipulative way to mask it. The fact that you don't see this means their tricks have worked on you, kek. They're constantly playing mind games to try and get you to act and behave in ways they want you to.
Btw when you've killed your ego you don't think you're better than everyone else, because you simply don't care anymore.
>>42245419
>Desire is what brings you back.
Only if it's desire to come back here again
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>>42245479
The subversive destructive motivation of women is being fueled by their lack of ego which translates into spiteful jealousy of people who do have egos. Kind of what your behavior is like.
You wouldn't understand because you're an unenlightened reddit bottomwit that is just regurgitating their talking points but to the top knowers lurking they would understand.
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>>42245479
Let me try to jump in here and maybe straighten this out.
Women may be more prone than men to follow narratives without questioning them. I also see this in men who lack masculinity, so I'm inclined to think you need to be masculine (not just a man) to avoid this, or it's a quality unrelated to men or women, but both men and women are convinced that the other half is worse.
Ego is a specific type of narrative. So, if we go with the idea that women are more prone to following narratives, then they'd also be more prone to believing every aspect of their own narrative too.
However, other people use 'ego' to denote the forceful application of narrative, which men are undoubtedly better at.
My opinion: "ego" is a poorly defined Freudian term, and no one believes Freud was right anymore, but we continue to pretend its layman use is meaningful.
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>>42246095
Finally a non redditor.
Yes no ego is like being the ocean of consciousness, this is where women come from. They have no form, they float with the wind and they are the closest to death. You would also call this an NPC.
Having an ego is taking a stand, saying you're alive and you matter. It gives you the power to influence reality and reshape it to your will. So it makes sense to strengthen your ego as much as humanly possible to gain the most power.
The only other option is to go woke and make yourself a powerless woman.
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>>42246156
Based and existentialism-pilled.
Here's my problem with existentialism though: it's like using rationality to contain chaos. The chaos is existence, and the rationality is trying to define it and ultimately subvert it to your very word. Everything becomes an argument with yourself, so either you lose, or you lose.
Maybe I'm doing it wrong though.
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>>42246208
You have to use it like a domain expansion. You're only aiming to effect what is in your range.
Will is your power level. The more will you have the higher your power.
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>>42242707
they're chemically almost identical. they both serve the same function. lsd is better imo cause you don't have to eat mushroom substrate and it lasts 3x as long. shroom hero dose is amazing though.
but to the second guy, it's not the shrooms it was their brainwashing.
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>>42246406
wtf are you talking about you jackass
look it up
psilocybin psilocin and lsd25 are the same chemical
there are many more lysergic acid derivatives which not many are psychedelic and lsd25 is very unique
they don't have spiritual properties, you should never take a psychedelic ever if you aren't capable of understanding they are the same
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>>42246734
You're such a fucking retard faggot. Matter is fake so your reddit nerd shit doesn't mean anything.
If you take something like ayahuasca you can meet with jungle spirits, jaguar spirits and earth spirits.
With shrooms you can meet elves or jesters or whatever.
They are in completely different vibrations.
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>>42246878
>ahhh reddit ahhh
lmao boomers are afraid of the letter psi
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>>42242689
That's a good answer.
>>42246095
>"ego" is a poorly defined Freudian term
It's pretty well defined, only nobody cares to know what that definition is. Also, it isn't only a Freudian term, so it has other (clear) definitions that people also don't care to know. Having multiple definitions like that is no excuse for people getting confused, because you can tell from context, or if not, ask which is meant.
>no one believes Freud was right anymore
Many people do, even if they don't realize that they do, which is a problem. On the other hand, Freud was right about a fair few important things, and "not wrong" about much more: his mistakes don't erase that, however many there were. People are wrong to dismiss him out of hand.
>we continue to pretend its layman use is meaningful.
That's the real problem. People use too many words they don't understand.
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>>42246801
No, he's right, they are not really the same. They target the same receptors, but feel pretty different. Even the visuals on shrooms are different than the visuals on LSD for me. Also psilocybin is not the only substance in shrooms that get's you high.
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>>42247483
>lsd25 is different with different compounds
Wasn't the hill, but sure
I think their real dispute had to do with the spiritual implications of how one obtains a molecule. Even what we call natural is fairly arbitrary unless we distinguish what initiates what processes. If you extract a compound from a mushroom, then synthesize the same compound in a lab, your knowledge of the difference will influence the experience. It's a shame we're not doing any blind studies.
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OP here. Everyone seems interested in talking about the sensory effects of mushrooms (and other drugs), but seeing fairies isn't an enlightening experience. If you take drugs to see things, you're a retard.
The ego death thing is more legitimate, but I also don't think mushrooms are the best for that. You can shut your brain off just from sensory deprivation (stay in a dark room for a week plus), lack of food, lack of sleep. If you want to add drugs to the mix, there are lots that will totally fuck you up and forget why you came. If we're talking pure "death", seems like there are alternatives.
No, there's something else about mushrooms which I have apparently not been able to elucidate well enough here. It is like exponential self-reflection. You know how you see those "machine elves" or whatever you retards call them? It's just a normal elf with fractals applied to it. All of those weird visuals? They're fractals. Now, take the same concept but apply it to metaphorical thought instead of literal. Fractals of metaphor are mindblowing.
I say the mushrooms are "pure" because you can be significantly high and yet also clear-headed in a lot of other respects. That allows you to think while high, and that is what makes the profound realizations possible.
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As a former "psychonaut", someone who has done DMT, salvia, and heroic doses of LSD, along with many research chemicals
I really believe sobriety is best. Over my years of experimentation I've developed a simple horseshoe-theory of mind expansion, in which sensory deprivation leads to the same states as sensory enhancement. In other words, solitude, silence, relaxation, mind-clearing can lead you to the same place as listening to hi-tech psytrance while on shrooms. The former is safer, slower, yet ultimately far deeper than the latter.
However, this is only my experience. Sobriety and meditation are what work for me. I feel no need for further drug use. Other people may benefit from drugs, for me they only slowed me down and led to many poor decisions.
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>>42246095
Women being more egotistical doesn't automatically mean you need to become more masculine to avoid ego. You should be avoiding ego if you're male or female, it's just that modern day women on average are allowed to be more egotistical and get away with it because nobody ever puts them in their place anymore. And I don't mean some tranny shit like become genderless, you're still a man when you let go of ego. If someone is worried about not being a man after letting go of their ego then they're obviously an insecure faggot (the insecurity is the ego refusing to let go). It's basically their way of expressing they're terrified of becoming who they truly are because they might be an unlikable faggot underneath, and rather than confront it they'd rather hide behind their fragile facade, prime example here >>42245290
You can tell this guy reeks of fragile, insecure faggot energy.
>>42246056
>The subversive destructive motivation of women is being fueled by their lack of ego
Just straight up discarded what I said and didn't address any of it. I accept your concession. You seem to have no grasp or understanding of what the ego actually is, try learn a little before speaking on topics you know nothing about.
>you're an unenlightened reddit bottomwit that is just regurgitating their talking points
Your projector is overheating, xir.
>>42246156
>thinks being true to yourself means being powerless
Your faggot projection is showing yet again.
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>>42247106
>Very nice personality bro. The jews gave you a good one.
Coming from the faggot who's entire personality/facade is created by those very same people. The irony is palpable
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>>42248034
>you're all narcissists!
>posts this after getting called out
and there it is
every time
like a force of nature
as automatic and predictable as the rising and setting of the sun
some things change and some things never change
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>>42248034
>someone pointed out my retardation
>if I point out the fact that they pointed my retardation out, I win!
>r-right?
The facade is cracking, kek
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>>42242667
>man made drug (probably made by a jew)
>based
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>mushrooms made by the big Man up there
the only reddit faggot here is (you)
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>>42245479
Do these posts read like they were made by someone who has killed his ego?
Because to me they come across as being from some wisdom deprived baby raging faggot.
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I have tasted ego death off of 8g of shrooms. It's essentially viewing the underlying mechanisms of cause and effect of the entire world in third person. You can't really bring the feeling back with you when you are sober. You can take the lessons learned and try to apply them to your life. True sober ego death is not really possible in Western living. You have to give up all your earthly attachments and begin communal living to get anywhere close
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>>42245479
You're both hacking the matrix. Women are computers programmed by the Emperor of the matrix. This is why they are a mystery to you. You need to solve their puzzle. Find the right hole that fits your key. Lady of the Lake opening up her gates receiving Camelot's sword or whatever the fuck. It's an annoying pain in the balls. And women use it to humiliate gullible men. They really do. I think Lilith is 'hacking' our women. Lol!
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>>42245479
I keep thinking women are being controlled by some alien borg machine. We're all living in a simulated scripted reality. Women are in reality men without dick and balls and this is why they have penis envy. They don't want to be dominated but they want to be dominated and they can't make up their minds. They're broken programs. Think, man. They are slaves of the Emperor and they're there to entertain you. But sometimes they're used by the Emperor to humiliate men and ruin their lives. Mystery Babylon revealed. People have been inadvertently aiding the wickedest shit you could possibly imagine because they're stupid and they don't see the danger. It's like their ability to detect predators has been domesticated out of them.
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>>42248848
>alien borg machine
Checks out. I'm gonna go and take a piss.
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>>42248655
>wisdom deprived baby raging faggot.
Faggot projection, try again
>>42248746
>attaining womanly bitchiness
Faggot projection, try again
>>42248671
>True sober ego death is not really possible in Western living
This. You can get very close but you won't be able to get rid of it completely until you die. It's just simply not possible to exist in the prison society without your goy mask. I think the best thing is to get rid of it as much as possible, then sever the last tie to it in between the time of your death and getting stuck in the loop trap again. Kind of like an insect molting its shell, it's something that needs to be left behind if you want your wings. It's what makes sense, if the ego is what holds all the material and earthly attachments and desires, then holding onto it will almost guarantee you another trip in the loop again, since you'll want to come back to finish unfinished business. You need to truly and genuinely not want to return here, which means letting that shit go. It also explains why the system is designed to make you constantly embrace your ego and prop it up, because it affects your chances of successfully escaping the loop, ie you'll keep coming back again and again so they can harvest loosh from you like a good goy
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>>42247026
TBM is the way, it is the best.
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>>42248954
You're welcome, goy!
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>>42242803
>The trip feels to short
I have never thought that after taking shrooms. I'm usually tired, hungry and glad it's over. It feels like you've been through the wringer. LSD, on the other hand, can feel exhaustingly long and I've felt like I just wanna sleep but I know there's no use in trying because I'm still tripping (so a bowl of weed is handy to have).
>LSD makes me fucking stupid
Never felt this either. LSD makes me feel mostly euphoric, giggly, sometimes overwhelmed.
Makes me wonder for what reason you guys are taking this stuff...
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I just had strong af ones. I've always had extra esp style senses since I was 5. I got information/possible answers for it told to me all of a sudden in a sudden realization of sorts. Heard that my spirit and aura is really strong but chaos, massive suffering and misfortune manifest in my life as well as possible oppression from god AND satan due to my splinter of "power" originating from someone or something that they both do not like, their common denominator and this thing is a competitor in ways to them. Who or what would they both be against that has history with humans? I also was told to "find out what i am" and if I found 12 other people like me I'd be unstoppable.
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>>42248984
The ego literally IS material attachments, you're still not seeing it are you? It's not that the ego itself is bad per se, but the ego here in this demiurge prison planet is bad, because if your primary goal is to escape it's the thing tethering and stopping you. Maybe you love your Saturn time prison and goyslop, if you do go ahead, embrace that ego and anchor yourself more. But if you're someone who wants nothing to do with this place anymore that shit needs to be let go. I'm gonna escape the demiurge prison and go somewhere else, I'll probably have to build another ego to exist in it, but at least it will be worth existing in, not like this cattle farm. That's where I'm heading
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>>42248983
My existence is a threat to this reality itself. Each one of my thoughts is like a nuke going off in the astral. They try to contain me in prison's of fate because they know who I am but they are no match for my power. Get on my level.
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>>42248980
I'm still trying to escape civilization. Its kind of unrealistic to imagine a woman leaving a civilization where they can get anything they want and a Chad with a big meaty horse cock with a bunch of n*gger money and a huge truck and McMansion for le autistmo schizo in his gay little Hobbit hole. I know grey alien Nazis disguised as women just want to be slam-banged up their pussy holes.
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>>42249047
>Psychedelics don't do anything that you can't do to yourself.
This is true, but some people are more cucked by the goy cage than others, which is why they need the extra assistance. But yes, the healing should come from within first and foremost, the psychedelics should only be used to supplement what you're already trying to do. This is unfortunately where most people go wrong, they try to use them solely as a cure, that's not what they're for though. You don't just eat a mushroom and get all better on your own, you're still the one that needs to heal yourself.
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I legit want insight into this
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>>42249072
>the healing should come from within
Nah fuck that, that won't do anything. I didn't ask about your preachy reddit talking points. I said ENERGY HEALING, you fucking faggot.
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I hate this fucking reddit nigger so much. He is more gay every time he comes back and makes these threads. It's like they upgrade his programming over there to make him even more of an npc and more of a flaming faggot.
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>>42249072
Im trying. But who the fuck is my source energy derived from or who enhanced or messed with it? Im not sure if that premonition meant anything btw but it felt legit.
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>>42243520
"Artos" which is not included in the book which is the food Jesus gave. It's not a mushroom but bread. Bread is symbolized as his body (Greek Soma), like Osiris, but it's Jesus saying this is his body. The difference being that his bread gives eternal life while the others don't.
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>>42245290
God worshippers take on submissive attitudes and go in for humiliation, bondage etc
Goddess worshippers are masculine as hell, chad go-getters like the early Muslims etc
Physical sex of the body is incidental
To reach the other shore you bring both energies into perfect balance in a single lifetime. After the ego dies you don't have to keep up the practices anymore. You can act more forcefully and effectively than anyone, but the action won't be shackled by the false ego narrative anymore. OM
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>>42249072
>You don't just eat a mushroom and get all better on your own, you're still the one that needs to heal yourself.
funny enough that's exactly how it works. the chemical is what your body feeds on and uses.
you can't heal yourself with thoughts without the resources.
healing is fake. everyone should remember that.
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>>42247800
i agree, although after a few years of sobriety (including caffeine), i've found that a microdose every once in a while really helps me clear the negative mental buildup. could be the autism. or im not meditating correctly and consistently enough
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>>42253149
Yeah but if you flood your body with chemicals and they aren't directed where they need to be it's not gonna work the way you want them to. It's the reason bad trips happen, the "healing" is dependent on your mental state going in and during the trip. If you have a fucked mental state you will have a bad trip, if you have a clear set intention you will experience the "healing" and find the answers you're looking for. Copious amounts of drugs can overwrite this though and give you bad trips regardless but you get the point.
The drugs are just boosting the effectiveness of the "healing" by giving you excessive amounts of that chemical. Also there are certain things that your brain can naturally produce (albeit not to the same potency) like DMT and Serotonin, and if you've gotten good at making use of those chemicals WITHOUT the drugs, you'll have a lot better success when taking something that produces an overload of that. Like an amateur blacksmith vs a master, one who already knows the craft will produce something with vastly superior quality. I mean supposedly new research shows that psilocybin rewiring is directly correlated with your outside stimuli, meaning it's not just something you just take and everything gets better, but something that alters your brain depending on what you put into it at the time. It can basically rewrite people's brains, which is a double edged sword. Give them something shit to be around during the trip and you'll rewire it into something bad, give them something good and they'll be rewired in a positive way, etc. I'm sure about other drugs but psilocybin permanently alters your brain when taking it, especially the parts associated with your consciousness and sense of self, which is probably why so many people get ego death when taking it. You're LITERALLY writing yourself into a new person, or letting go of the 'fake' you depending on how you see it.
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>>42255803
And I wouldn't say it's something you should really "control" since that's basically impossible when you're taking drugs, but more so "direct" it. Give it a direction to go in, rather than trying to reign it in like you're riding a horse. You say this is where I want to go, then let it take you there, if that makes sense. If you don't give it a direction you'll just end up lost, and probably just fuck up your brain in the process.
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>>42253678
>could be the autism
See I hate the just stay sober your whole life cunts, because while you probably should, they're forgetting the fact that tons of people have neurological conditions or other problems that stop them from experiencing life "sober" in the first place. I mean I have OCD, I don't really experience life "sober" even when I am sober, if anything taking something to get rid of it (something natural not big pharma pills) makes me experience life like I'm meant to. There's a difference between abusing a drug and using it to treat something, the line gets very blurry with dipshits these days though they can't even tell the difference. They think they're being cool and edgy by saying heh I stay sober and don't need drugs, life is my drug! but they're not the one with conditions are they?
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>>42246321
They have an incredibly important distinction in their chemical geometry as natural vs synthetic and they do -not- work the same. LSD closes the synaptic lid behind it and stays trapped and triggers dopaminergic networks, psilocybin doesnt close the lid and instead floods it with the repeating signals on many nodes. Psilocybin is more likely to dissolve the box and allow escape into the unfiltered logos perception, while LSD instead preserves the matrix render and reveals the wireframe. Psilocybin is for spiritualists, LSD is for materialists. You can alternate between them as long as the ego doesn't restrict you from holding many competing foundational views of reality, but if you don't think they're distinct you're just blurring together sloppy highs without analyzing them.
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>m-moron
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shrooms are aliens