>>42249568
>random Italian shit
You mean black nobility that’s scrubbed from google?
You’re NGMI anon
Everyone knows it’s Draco reptilians at the top of the physical hierarchy with demons controlling them, breakaway Nazis and cabal Jews/ancient Roman bloodlines acting as the lizards top level of earth human puppets etc.

>>42249631

proof?

>>42249631
Don't forget the reverse vampires and the light-skinned mexicans

>>42249568
My understanding, which is very incomplete, is that there is the occult power hierarchy or "The Family" and the breakaway tech group. They are intertwined but I am not sure to what degree.

Rothschilds would probably be the most powerful occult family we know of, but my understanding is those above them in that structure we wouldn't even be aware of.

Then there is the breakaway tech group or groups, basically doing with technology now what the occult fucks have been doing with rituals and such for 1000s of years.

I have an incomplete understanding of their differing agendas (other than control of the world)

>>42249684
Jojos reference?

>>42249842

That makes a lot of sense and I guess inherently they would scrub most obvious evidence, but I'm wondering if there's any signs or threads that a schizo could uncover. For example the intense level of gematria and references in world events hints at some very centralized control. The Rothschilds being so prominent around clintons/epstein/british royals etc too. There's the mega group but they seem lower tier than the rothschilds. The European royals are probably similar tier to the Rothschilds, tho that king Charles finger poke pic... It would make sense that the highest tiers literally never are shown in any public media, but they would still live somewhere... probably somewhere very luxurious and safe, and associate with the elite of the elite. There's that elite swiss school the kids of such families might attend, eton etc tho probably the most powerful just have private tutors. Did anyone ever dig through the panama papers etc to see if theres evidence there? Tho those kinds of leaks are probably orchestrated on purpose for whatever reason. The continuity of it all hints that theres dynasties at play. My guess is they either literally have some hidden back doors to the money printer and just put however much money they need into their own private accounts with zero traces, or then they have like ten thousand labyrinthine shell holdings and trustees (each of them top lvl masons or whatever that can be killed or blackmailed) which hold like ten trillion that can be activated with zero traces as well.

>>42249873
I think they're at such a level of occult power/blackmail over the financial dynasties that they barely even consider money

>>42249873
Allegedly the breakaway tech people that control the UFO reverse engineering basically have money printers due to controlling the computers that run the world banking system

I honestly think it’s a lot more boring than they make it out to be, on purpose. I also don’t think it’s a pyramid. The way I see it, generic rich and powerful people (you’d call “mid-tier”) are the ones meeting every few months at Bilderberg, Davos, Trilateral Commission, etc. to debate/agree on major global events (wars, pipelines, interest rates). Then they all leave and go home back to their own separate ventures. Their power goes only so far as giving a broad directive to their subordinates. Even then, it has to be vague enough to ensure the underlings will actually do it and not notice the ulterior motive. There’s no direct channel between a Lord Rothschild and a CIA officer on the ground in Yemen; there’s a long chain of people “just doing their job” inbetween. Lord Rothschild can’t directly order the officer to execute a specific prisoner, but he can give a broad directive to his people that says “tell your contacts in government to get tougher on terrorism, because muh freedoms and stuff”

>>42249639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AxlvqCJBTc

>>42249980
It's actually WAY more wild than people believe. The issue is 95% of the space that discusses this, including here obviously but also people like Jones and Candace, is intentionally slop. That way all the wild stuff is thrown out, baby with the bathwater

>>42249980

Sure but it feels very coordinated and lock-step at times. Especially the media will do coordinated campaigns across multiple countries on the same day. You really saw this with covid, but also other periods. Or something like 9/11. The way they push various concepts like great reset etc. It reeks of a pyramid structure. Even without supernatural presumptions, is it so crazy to say that when you reach a certain level of generational wealth you basically get into a monopoly game situation where you've won permanently, and that happened ages ago (centuries to millenia) and they've then used that wealth and power to hide themselves, their wealth and power. Its very simple, you make various holding orgs that are controlled by a chain of people you control and make it clear if they fuck you over they're dead. The mafia does this with 85iq goons and its very rare that any leaks come out, and that's with mafia bosses flaunting their wealth. Imagine how flawless an operation you could run if the people in your org were instead masonic stooges who have taken part in murder rituals and know that if they betray you youll 100% surely kill them in the most painful way possible, but if they stay loyal they can have nearly anything on earth. You do that combined with shell companies and controlling the media and it opens the doors to emperors whom no one has ever heard of.

Even the mega group already implies a bunch of billionaires working together to entrap politicians for Israel, thats more tight knit that Bilderberger, tho the latter probably has crazy invitation only after parties.

>>42249568

It's a clan based system. Everyone is related to one of the big clans. Clan bosses decide your fate. Until it is harvest time. Then the clans pay for all their evil. There can be no other system, because clans always subvert any system that is imposed on them.

>>42249568
Phoenicians", "Carthaginians", "Magi".. Just evil people with the ability to manipulate less evil people.

"Magic" is not real, only theatrics..

>>42251301

This is a cool thought. Its like an evolutionarily stable setup that there's some clan with a blood oath running things since every other setup gets subverted by them eventually. The question is, what's the clan? My gut feeling is its the royal bloodlines (the top jews have been married in there since the time of babylon).

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>>42249568
>Discuss the true rulers of this planet.
"Sell me to this man; he needs a master."

>>42251533
Masonic digits of somewhat "getting it"

The illuminati is an association of bloodline heritage groups that was organized together more than 18000 years ago. Total currently is around 300 groups with around 30 in the leadership control positions with one at the helm at any given moment though this can change from time to time.
The collective has about 6000 middle managers that are above the law of any country. These can often be identified by their extraordinary access to the highest levels of society in all walks of life.
In recent decades actual rival organizations have come into existence due in large part to the development of technology and intelligence community entities.

They have a system that has preserved their presence covertly for the last 12000 years.

They learned that they were going to have to hide behind false fronts more than 14000 years ago. The things that appear to be in control are those false fronts.. or are traces of the presence of their new rivals.

>>42251970

proof?

>>42252151
If you can't find your own sources how are you qualified to evaluate mine?

>>42252189
Defensiveness without providing the requested sources indicates you know your sources are lame or that you just made it up.

>>42252189
Why are these evil fucks centered always in England?

>>42252215

they have one of the most steep caste systems in Europe so they're the most entrenched there, they are also have the city of London which is completely masonic.

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>>42249568
The Reptilians

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>>42249568
try to find your real power

>>42252308
How that started? It is true that it was through John Dee? Supposedly he was a "merchant" agent filling the head of Elizabeth with all of this esoteric bullshit opening the gates for the flood of the chosenites. Later they managed to break britain away from christianity with Henry, and britain became this hub of masonic fantasy land of wicca, druids, lodges. Everything "occult and magic" originates in england, is full of that crap all over the place. Am I mistaken?

>>42252214
Good indicator that you have no basis for personally verifying the information.
You can be born into it or in direct contact with those who are.. either of the heritage groups themselves or of their minions.
By design those who are outside are confined to their imagination.

As an outsider you may imagine whatever you will, because even with the evidence in front of you, you can do nothing else.
With a bit of personal experience the evidence finally hits home.

https://youtu.be/1wc4AcaKw-4

My experience with the mk ultra type programs gave me basis for evaluation of the fragments of evidentiary data and artifacts that are available, in some cases to the public, in some cases only privately even if you know where to go.

Not born into it myself, my father's performance in combat got me the attention .

It's not actually defensive to simply recognize that you are not likely to change your status of being an outsider.

>>42251970
Would MJ-12 and its successor organization be considered a rival to the bloodline illuminati group?

>>42252372
Can tell you're not larping. What did the illuminati do to help cause the global cataclysm 12,000 years ago?

>>42252372

Yeah you're super connected but then your evidence is some youtube video. Sure buddy.

>>42249568
Cool image, OP. This shows how these people are not more than puppets or performing dancing monkeys. See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil. Fucking scum.

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I suspect the true highest up rulers are completely unknown to anyone. No given names, appearances, even allusions to them are absent. They probably live in some underground city somewhere, giving orders from there.

Fine I will entertain this thread since it caught my eye.

Literally zero leads, these people do not exist on file. I'm also hesitant to even care about off shore accounts since realistically these people are not whales, they're the ocean.

Why be a player for a game you developed?

You can't google them, you can't find their names and families on leaked DB's, these people just do not exist.

I do wonder how much different they're to even an average individual let alone a mid-elite

>>42254370
This is my understanding as well. They truly live in the floating shadow world from which this surface society emanates. Ultimately its a demonic energy that these people are controlled by too

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>>42249568
here's your new body to incarnate into, enjoy

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>>42249568
I suspect the rulers are non human, possibly AI, maybe it's people outside the simulation. As for humans I think space people are probably pretty close to the top. Space, military, DARPA, and that sort of stuff is all right up there I reckon.

>>42255801

Yeah it seems some kind of confluence of multi generation involvement in both masonry and the intelligence community gets you access to the "real deal". Heads of intelligence services must be very high up too. Presumably theyre all of the right bloodlines, right secret societies etc etc. multiple overlapping loyalty systems. Then since media is organized like a pyramid even if an odd person betrays them, they'll get like a hundred or so views before the swat team finds them and theyre erased from history.

true rulers are unironically things like rulers, the stuff you use to measure things. things like scientific tools, ways of measurement, ways to explain things.
so words, letters, rulers, measuring utensils, scales.

one word for them is tool, another word is instrument. in the Bible, the devil character is touted as a skilled musician, what do musicians play? instruments.