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How many human souls have returned to the Pleroma? Why does the Monad not liberate us from the material? Why is Yaldabaoth irredeemable?
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>>42251568
And that "else" is?
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>>42251576
The goal is not merely to return to Source, but to go forward to the Father.
The path of mind leads only to eternal regress into Source; Gnosticism is a trap.
The path of soul rejoins Source with Father, as intended.
It's a choice.
What you mean by Pleroma is probably just the astral or 3D realm, unified time-space, where linear time is optional. Incarnation carries substantial risks of entrapment in long karmic cycles, such as we currently experience. A kernel of truth to sweeten the lie.
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>>42251625
I am still only at the level of trying to grasp the illusory nature of this physical reality, for which I have found gnostic allegory quite useful. I find it difficult to comprehend a higher reality, one which might be described as "more real" than this one. I can't begin to understand how one might transcend this reality or what the distinction would be between returning to Source and going forward to the Father. How would one travel the soul path as compared to the path of the mind? What is the practical distinction?
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>>42251486
At any given moment, there are infinite souls entering and leaving samsara.
By ratio, roughly one quarter of all souls ever enter samsara.
Most of them leave after one life of a demiurge.
We are the rare, foolish few that decided to dive further into the delusion, rather than exhaust the desire and get back to the source.
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From the standpoint of the Monad, nobody ever left and nothing ever happened. It is complete, indivisible, and not subject to change. Liberation from the relative standpoint is the end of the mistaken view that we left the Pleroma. Once ignorance is seen through, nothing remains to redeem.
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>>42251958
Ignorance has no beginning. Once it's seen through, it has an end.
From the relative standpoint, we talk about ignorance appearing as misperception. From the absolute standpoint, nothing ever arose, so ignorance has no origin at all. It’s similar to mistaking the rope for the snake. When the rope is seen clearly, the illusion of the snake ends but the rope was present the entire time.
Really, the snake never actually began nor ended; only the misperception ceased. Since nothing truly arose, nothing truly ended. We never actually left the Pleroma. The Monad, like the rope, never actually changed.
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I think of the pleroma as like when people use technology to seal themselves into joy cans and simply exist as meat filled coffins for the rest of eternity. And I think of the demiurge as someone who irrationally rebelled against existing in that state.
Because it requires irrationality to refuse existing in a perfect heaven forever.
So we exist because somebody was a "dick" and decided to remove themselves from an eternal static existence.
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kek, this is just the first matrix boi! The pleroma is like a video game hub world. It's chill and comfy, but not much to do. Once we've fully learned how to utilize the knowledge of good and evil without becoming immersed in it, we'll be ready to venture into more exciting anime-tier matrices. Buckle up buttercup, you don't jump from toddler human soul straight to god. You gotta level up indefinitely bro.
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>>42252323
What lesson did the kids on Epstein's island need to learn? Who deciedes what lessons we need to learn and how?
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>>42252106
>Ignorance has no beginning.
Then there is no removing ignorance, and it is an inherent part of reality, and not "ignorance" at all.
There is no end to this eternal ignorance, and any "removal" only means it will come again.
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>>42251767
Well good, it's not a bad place to start. Probably better than where I started.
The point of the path of soul is that it doesn't require great feats of interdimensional understanding from you. You already have everything you need. Trees do it and they don't even have brains.
I think everyone has some intuitive grasp of the heart vs mind distinction. The heart is the center of the soul. If we choose to partake of the substance of the Heavenly Father, we can be transformed by His Divine Love. He is outside our Source/Cosmos, existing as pure Soul. To go there, one must lay down a lot of ego and mindful pride, unsurprisingly.
Here's a couple of links:
https://new-birth.net Divine Love (Jesus)
https://scenicsasquatch.com Sasquatch Message gives a complete worldview on Source
For the simplest practical application, just read For the Love of His Own Creation, channeled by Jane Gartshore. It's a short novel.
Basically pray, meditate, dream, be good, do the right thing, listen, and trust the urgings of soul (from God, not fear). Don't get caught up in worldly darkness; it shall pass away.
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>>42254437
>Is it foolish to hunger for knowledge?
There is no knowledge to be found in delusion.
>Whats so bad about trying to peel back the curtain.
You misunderstand. We started outside the curtain, and decided to pull it over our own eyes.
Those that choose to remain are literally just closing curtains in front of themselves.