it just means occultists were never very smart
magic should have become real science and technology after this long
instead, 7000 years later and everyone is still stuck in the early bronze age

>>42253027
>If you do a serious academic study
Stopped reading there
Academics is to knowledge what organized religion to... religion(yeah i dont fuck with those who say "spiritual but not religious) spirituality, i mean, people who say that are just hippies. Real religion is spirituality but you wont find it amongst the religious institutions nor the "unorthodox spiritualists" hippie new age fags. Same as occultists. Crowley and blavatsky et al are all garbage. Agree with your general feeling but youve still got much to learn

>>42253551
Maybe you should finish reading things instead of thinking you already know everything.

>>42253090
it did

natural sciences evolved out of "naturalism" which was itself an extension of a field of occult study at the time that frames natural forces through occult lenses like "rays" being cast by planets and all kinds of funky shit.

Like, buddy I know you're just a kid, but maybe you didn't know that even in the early 1900s scientists still believed in "ether" and all kinds of weird occult shit. If you think your ancestors were stupid, hey guess what, in about 20 years you're going to look like a dumb fucking monkey at this rate. Strap that ego in tight.

>>42253551
>'Stopped reading' rather than giving OP a chance to bring new ideas
>Speaks down on individuals who walk other paths
>Implied sense of self importance as 'you've still got much to learn'
I'm glad you agree with OPs general feeling but still NGMI anon. Give his post a read and a genuine reflection. Even autists get it right sometimes

>>42253027
It starts with shamanism and goes downhill from there.

>>42253636
The luminiferous aether wasn't occult, it was literally materialist, postulating that empty space is comprised of a medium that allows light propagate through it. The experimental failure of this theory led to special relativity and modern physics.

>>42253636
I've heard the old "le modern science is really magic hurhuur" nonsense a thousand times, you dumb shit sophist. I'm talking about literally magic, harnessed and controlled as if it were electricity or x-rays or lasers, but still being magic. Like you see in some animes.

>>42253636
Also light being comprised of "rays" isn't anything occult, but comes from the geometric concept of ray.

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>>42253776
You're advertising your discord pretty heavily across many different threads. What's the goal?

>>42253627
>>42253645
Nah. Anon has the right of it. OP wanted to sound are and important, so they said they did an "academic study" when what they meant was they read few books.
It's funny you want to dismiss academic authority, while defending OP's choice of words that is entirely meant to add authority by referring to school systems.
I'd say "let's see the credentials and anything actually published to call this a "serious academic study", but you would just get mad that academia is a thing in the first place.

>>42253636
>naturalism" which was itself an extension of a field of occult study at the time
No I wasn't Naturalists and the proto-scientists were all very openly Christian, and working with the idea that they were studying and explaining God's works.

>>42253874
Grooming

>>42253885
No shit, they were all apophatic christian mystics, you probably don't even know who the fuck Meister Eckhart even is.

>>42253738
no you fucking stupid faggot, they thought planets projected fucking rays that influenced people's minds and shit

>>42253726
nobody is saying that, you're just reading that in what I said, nobody cares about your fucking grudge

>>42253716
Yes it literally was occult you dumb nigger. I got appropriated from occultist metaphysics and then became a stupid physical theory. Do your fucking homework.


You're all stupid brainless niggers.

>>42253027
So give an example of a simple technique any anon could try at home for proof.
The problem with all claims of occultism is the lack of demonstration.

>>42254103
>they were all apophatic christian mystics
No. They were Naturalists.

>>42254103
>nobody is saying that, you're just reading that in what I said,
thousands before you have said that, don't be a faggot and try to walk it back because I called you out

>>42253027
if i may inquire - why did you default to spiritual alchemy in lieu of MAterial alchemy?

>>42253781
plastic cigarettes give you bad karma and low quality coffee the same.
all the minimizers are really on the devil's side. real tobacco leaf is great. the plastic shit is what twists your soul.