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Eating the flesh of conscious beings who knew nothing but pain and suffering for the entirety of their short lives before being killed violently can't be good for you.
Inb4 edgy children smugly say they don't care
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>>42256040
its not because they are afraid of pain. aninals are scarsely afraid of pain. thats not the reason at all. they are scared of the demonic vibe so to speak animals have a good way of guessing vibes, of the slaughterers and ceos of those companies and the people who run the ceos and the slaughterers and control the world. animals know who rules the world they are all xtards. these aninals know they did many sins, and they may pay for it i dont know but id be afraid too of death if i was such a sinner. and yes, god doesnt give two damns about any of this. hes aloof and doesnt care. why should he. what can we offer him. how holy are we compared to him.
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>>42255969
I agree industrial scale slaughter is evil for profit.
But even when you kill the animal personally it is the same death and consumption. You might argue for "cleaner" kills, but its still a kill.
In my well researched opinion, youre worried about the wrong issue. Instead you should ask why "reality" itself is engineered from the ground up to be a battle royale where all species and beings must murder and eat each other to survive.
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>>42255969
why not just do this in the future (if we even have the means)
either that or lab grown meat
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>>42256700
https://voca.ro/1dnQbqlnUv3r
answer per vocaroo
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>>42256180
>Instead you should ask why "reality" itself is engineered from the ground up to be a battle royale where all species and beings must murder and eat each other to survive.
it's the fucking archons, isn't it?
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>>42256040
There’s a lot of hypocrisy about this from Christians, as one who is vegan. God instructed us to eat fruit and leaves before the Fall. It was only after, once entropy entered the fold, that God told us that we’re fucked and to eat anything that we can get our hands on. As soon as we regain agency on this behalf we must remove ourselves from the carnal cycle.
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>>42256180
Entropy (which necessitates predation) is the necessary environment to test spiritual resolve. Eating animals is a prime example - if you can reduce suffering at the expense of your wants, and you choose not to, what does that make you?
We are living on a spinning rock that once found itself also in the Big Bang — but those ages are gone, and we are spiraling, spiraling into blackness. What do you choose to become in this?
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I admit I feel bad about slaughterhouses and animal cruelty, but I eat meat because It's healthy for me. I am conflicted. If I eat nuts and seeds and grains I become ill.
If I could, I would eat only plants, but it doesn't work. The hard truth is we are omnivores that lean heavily towards the carnivore side, all the evidence is there in the human body, from stomach pH being the same as obligate carnivores, to the shape of our teeth. I am really conflicted because I agree with the moralfags but they do not want to hear the truth that I outlined about human biology in this paragraph, and before you say "wow you are so edgy, you eat meat because it's good for you, what about the poor animals?? You can't make that sacrifice??"... read the paragraph below
I used to eat a diet extremely heavy on nuts and grains, legumes etc and I became progressively ill, with a gut disease, and a number of ailments that made me almost bed bound.
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Yes actually every being has a "magical" influence on the universe, this is the true reason to respect life
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>>42256776
Yep and they will totally use eating meat in their guilt trip movie (life review) if they think it will work on you. Conversely those who don't care will be shown a different movie to make them feel bad. That's why none ever passes the guilt trip. More ethical people have higher standards that they ultimately fail.
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>>42256952
Ah yes, a crucible for the tempering of high quality souls. Ive already pondered such perspective, that while possible, it is not the only explanation.
Ive also thought about it from a strictly physics perspective. In which physics itself makes a system to distill life into the most efficient configuration through evolution; a system in which parasitism already won and this physical reality itself is obsolete.
I have many theories of my own, but only proposed OP asks himself, instead of pushing my own interpretations upon.
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>>42255969
A fat, short and effeminate arab once tried to push the vegetariant lifestyle on me, based on its supposed health benefits but at least he did not try to moralfag about it. OP is gayer than a literal irl faggot
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>>42257075
One cannot know beauty without ugliness, light without dark, life without death, up without down, front without back, short without long, yin without yang. Everything requires its opposite to define itself.
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>>42255969
There's a category of spirits called FleshRiders.
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Can you go out and hunt a deer that's been living a wonderful wild life? No you cant without permits. Not to mention most don't know how. You are living in an open air prison system. You get by to survive and maybe inform others about the prison system. You can't just put limits on yourself because you will end up malnutrition. Doing harm to self willingly is worse. You choose the best what you have available. They do sell grass-fed beef. Is it 100% humane ensured? Idk but it sounds more humane than beef from feedlots. Also, if people who tell you to eat bugs don't want you eating beef, that means beef is good.
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>grass eats soil
>cow eats grass
>I eat cow
>the social hierarchy eats me, there is always someone above who has more power
>billionaire pedophiles conquer the social hierarchy through systematic exploitation
>satan owns the souls of billionaire pedophiles
>God owns satan and has him as his bitch to mog for eternity
the world is a mog contest, at first it seems the devil is the biggest baddest mogger, he humilliates even the strongest more powerful individuals, it seems like he has everything under his control, then God comes, and fucks his shit up publicly, in front of everyone, and life continues on.
there is always a bigger crueler fish, but that also means there is always a bigger godly fish to put the cruel fish in his place, this is the law of the world.
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>>42257576
satan is real, god is real
I never mentioned JEWeh or JEWsus or JEWallah
but if you have any level of awareness you will identify a prominent force of dominance in the world (in this case I call it satan) and an even stronger force that puts the world under its power (God)
>>42257564
>believes AI is more than just fake numbers in a screen propped up by industries to fire workers in mass
lmao, I bet you believed in covid too
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>>42255969
Let them live and starve to death in the paddock? The fate of those animals is far worse if you let bleeding hearts have their way.. They are bred to be slaughtered and if the slaughter house is closed, those animals suffer on a level you couldn't understand. I FUCKEN WORKED THAT KILL FLOOR - I FUCKEN WATCHED AS THEIR SKIN WAS TAKEN OFF THE SAME YOU TAKE A JUMPER OFF A CHILD!! "LIFT YOUR ARMS" only they are hanging from a hook!
Unless you have worked in one of these fucken hellscapes - DONT FUCKEN TALK ABOUT IT.. Just enjoy your BIG MAC YA FAT CUNT!! Think of all the innocent bugs and insects that get fucken massacred so you can have a vegan diet ya fucken hypocrite!! Nahh conveniently forget about those huh.. Just EAT NOTHING!! If you so worried about hurting life.. STOP FUCKING EATING ALL TOGETHER!!
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>>42256985
Eat wild fish. It's the lesser evil. They die pretty quick after being fished out.
Now if you want to go on an even higher moral path, eat shellfish. It works for not getting sick from not eating flesh.
Vegetarian could work also, but you have to tolerate milk product, like cheese and kefir.
>I used to eat a diet extremely heavy on nuts and grains, legumes etc and I became progressively ill, with a gut disease, and a number of ailments that made me almost bed bound.
Veganism is actually dangerous. For some it works, for other their body decays.
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>>42255969
You can thank Abrahamism for this madness, along with the whole cancerous "colonize and exploit everything" mindset. From the first chapter of Genesis:
>26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
>28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
>29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
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>>42257709
>I give you all the animals and plants on the earth for food.
>So you will be my food.
I just understood what saturn eating his children is about a few days ago. It's basically the demiurge, having created man in his own image, eating his own children, for loosh.
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>>42257615
As soon as you mention "satan" you reveal your belief in abrahamism, you stupid fuck. Your abrahamic idols arent real. And anyone with an ounce of awareness identifies the scapegoats you just invoked. Yes, that literal jewish ritual of scapegoating.
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>>42257751
>It's basically the demiurge, having created man in his own image,
Humans were created by aliens to mine the planet. The anunnaki, to be specific. And they arent "god" or "demiurges". Theyre simply biological creatures with access to better technology.
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I've worked on a pig farm before they're actually pretty happy and play around all day and eat which is their two favorite things to do. No one abuses them and everyone would know if they did because the meat gets tougher and lower quality and they'll fine you for it and not let you raise pigs anymore. If it's a first world country i guarantee no one is abusing their animals because it directly links to them losing hundreds of thousands of dollars and it's impossible to hide. That being said idk about mexico and other retarded countries
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I don't agree with the completely arbitrary distinction between "animal" and "plant" if you're basing it on "consciousness". Don't tell me you think "consciousness" is just some fucking brain activity, you're on /x/ motherfucker. Go back to /sci/ or /pol/ if you're a fucking hylic retard.
You can eat meat that isn't produced in commercial meat factories. You just have to pay premiums for "free range" or you have to find someone who runs a private farm who can sell you meat directly, wholesale, that comes from animals that have been treated with dignity and respect.
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>>42257846
You were born with a conscience yes, but no compass or instructions for how to use it. You develop discernment as you grow up, something you will never do apparently because you have zero empathy and are apparently a sociopath.
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>>42257855
>Not "created" but uplifted,
Wrong. The original inhabitants, those who created the global megalithic sites, were exterminated. Then they created humans with genetic engineering. Both the anunnaki lore and the bible coincide. Yhvh is Anu.
"Uplifted" haha yeah uplifted into slavery. Retard.
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>>42257857
They do, but they have many different names for "the almighty", like Lord, Lord God, God, God the Father, Almighty God, etc.
The reason for this is because the old testament should be read in HEBREW. When read in the correct language, passages take on more meaning and make more sense.
For example, in the attached image, do you notice how it says "has become as one of US"? That is not arbitrary. That is not poetry. That is not a mistake. That is not a fanciful interpretation. That is because the word in Hebrew is actually "Elohim", and Elohim is PLURAL. The correct idea is "THE ELOHIM" as a group of godlike beings, or a single God that has many different manifested forms and identites.
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forgot the image, sorry
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>>42257834
I realize that's true in many cases but not all. Factory farms are awful and need to be banned. It depends on the type of animal and the type of meat being produced. Chickens are treated especially bad, and yea you can taste the difference between a well treated animal and a poorly treated one but it doesn't matter if it's turned into industrial goyslop. Vegetarians frustrate me because their advocating for no meat alienates people who might support some actual industry improvements.
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Huntererers gatherers used to have respect for their hunts. Did not waste meat, thanked the animal, practiced rituals and decorated their home with animal in honor of their spirit, adopted orphaned animals and raised them until they released them in the wild
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>>42255969
It is objectively bod for you because the stress hormones produced by the pain and suffering of factory farmed animals can and do suffuse their entire body and remain in the meat you eat. Even putting aside the nutrition differences in products from factory farmed animals, which are always inferior to animals eating a natural diet, factory farmed meat directly harmful to your body.
Eating meat isn't ideal under any conditions but, taking cattle as an example, there are plenty of farms that allow them to roam freely in natural land and by doing so create a financial incentive to maintain the biodiversity of that land rather than replacing it with a monocrop field or, even worse, rows of barns. The only difference is that meat from ethically treated animals is a little more expensive than meat from animals who are forbidden even the slightest hint of comfort if providing it to them would harm profit margins.
I can respect people who choose to eat meat but only if they are careful about where it comes from. People who eat factory farmed meat every day and shrug at the miserable conditions these animals live in are 100% going to whatever negative afterlife you believe in. It might be different if someone were ignorant of these things but everyone knows that these places exist and that animals are essentially tortured for their entire lives for no reason other than that it makes it cheaper to raise them and if you know and comprehend what is being done to these animals and still choose to support it by buying products from them, you are equally guilty in every evil being committed against them.