What is Dead By Daylight? Dead By Daylight is an asymmetrical multiplayer (1v4) horror-styled game where one player takes on the role of the Killer and four players take on the role of Survivors. The Survivors' objective is to repair generators in order to power and open exit gates to escape. The Killer's objective is to kill the Survivors.
▶ NEWS >balance patch april 28th, including blight and fasttrack nerfs >Official Stat Tracker Website https://stats.deadbydaylight.com/
>>565494340 We haven't had a chapter genuinely worth getting excited about since Tokyo Ghoul, and that was only noteworthy for Rize, the first anime girl in DBD. TG isn't actually good.
>>565494340 That's because no other DBD player posts on /vg/ besides us. This board might be the fastest on the website but the posters are mostly in the gacha game and final fantasy MMO threads.
>>565501259 nta but according to /pol/ refugees I've met on various boards, it's so infested with bots that /vg/ possibly still takes the cake for fastest rate of human posts at least. Not that coomers are exactly sapient, though.
Being able to see your teammates perks did nothing cause why the fuck is this nea getting tunneled and I can see she has flip flop power struggle and instead of dying on the pallet while I’m nearby this bitch predrops every pallet and gets mind gamed and dies https://x.com/allreactionvids/status/1830755138375458882?s=46
I have a serious love-hate relationship with 2v8 because on one hand I usually play killer but the queue times make that a pain in the ass, however 2v8 sucks up all the no-brain potato survivors so playing 1v4 soloQ isn’t nearly as miserable as usual
they didn't change anything but this seems way more survivorb sided, am i crazy? temple of purgation is too big but iron works seemed okay, i think the biggest issue is maps are too big. i'm escaping/not getting kills way more this iteration than the last one. i play both sides because of play while you wait so it's not just killer main salt. i play trapper, dracula and wraith the most so like with trapper i accept a certain level of map RNG but even as drac and wraith there are so many pallets and maps are so goddamn big, with sprint burst on demand it's impossible to actually punish survivor mistakes.
i did manage to win a 1v8 on RPD as trapper after my teammate ragequit. we lost 4 gens with no hooks but they did all of the gens on one side of the map, so my side was fucking impossible to loop/get around, they checkmated themselves. it was very satisfying.
>>565508947 Need some chocolate milk. When I was young I had a black babysitter that I called chocolate lady. I shit on the bathroom floor to troll her.
How can people play this game and remain calm??? I got the game today and I'm constantly anxious and scared when I play survivor, no joke. I feel legit like scared and miss stuff all the time.
>>565512437 It's just because you haven't played it enough to understand that this isn't hide and seek, it's a game of tag and half the kids playing with you are obnoxious homosexual theater kids who will literally piss and scream and cry if someone actually tags them because the only reason they're there is to hang out with their friends for fifteen minutes, not actually play the game. Enjoy the next ten ish hours anon, they're the only fun you're going to have with this stupid gay ass video game.
>>565512437 By doing it over and over for thousands of hours. I think if a demon split your scrotum with a knife over and over for 4000 hours you would not be that bothered anymore.
>>565512720 >I think if a demon split your scrotum with a knife over and over for 4000 hours you would not be that bothered anymore. But enough about trannies!
>>565512437 The game used to be scarier before they blew out all the lighting and made it way easier to see. Now it's just borderline goofy, especially when you're working on a gen or something and you see off in the distance the killer and survivor keep popping out from terrain like a Scooby Doo chase
>>565512437 You’re scared because you’re new and don’t know anything, eventually you’ll cross a certain threshold where you know what to do and that survivor is the *actual* power role and you’ll be doing gens unbothered in the killer’s face
>blight is utter dogshit now as a 4.4 killer because his power is useless on 90% of fillers and every map now has a gideon's meat plant level of safe fillers >yet retards still cope that he's s tier lmfao. i think blight is genuinely just dollar tree kaneki at this point.
>>565512437 The more you play DBD the more you build up an immunity to stress and then you can't enjoy the horror genre as a whole anymore. Your fight or flight response will be replaced by something else entirely.
>>565515352 one thing i like doing is going afk when i find out the killer is a blight or nurse or something and then putting in the end game chat 'gg! don't forget to report the killer for playing blight'
Need more animations where the characters are actually in an in game situation. I get horny when a female survivor pisses me off and activates my rape instinct. I don't want the basic bitch "heh I will distract the killer from defending the generators by engaging in consensual sex with him" I want to see a survivor getting cocky with a flashlight and getting out of position and getting punched in the stomach and bent over a pallet and anally raped while they cry and their teammates watch helplessly and then they become mindbroken and beg for me to cum because they just realized the subconsciously have been begging to be raped because that is truly the survivor-main/killer-main dynamic, this game is inherently sexual and specifically rape-coded.
>>565519007 Playing hux on indoor maps sucks and requires you to play slower and more tactical. In my build iirc I use surge + pain res + surveillance so I get constant info on gens I’m protecting and know when to use cams to push people off. I also use the hyperawareness spray addon to fuck with people because it makes it harder to tell where I am. I’m sure a coordinated team would still kick my ass, but I feel like this stuff at least gives me a chance on indoor maps while also being perfectly fine on outdoor maps
got a 4 day ban for "communication abuse" lmao. i've played this game for like 8 years and have never been banned before no matter how raunchy i am in chat, i guess i really pissed off some faggot streamer or something. guess it's time to just play with chat off forever.
>>565528512 his perks aren't great even for meme builds and he's a shit tier killer you're forced to main to even get remotely decent results with him, why would you buy him?
>>565529825 Trust that BHVR will buff him Actually I take that back, I came back after like a year away and the bug that makes you hit a wall instead of the survivor is still there
>>565540992 would be ormond resort if it's main building wasn't so fucking cancerous, thankfully lake mine is just resort but it's nice to play on AND nice to look at.
>>565540992 Lake Mine is the best map in dbd imo, aesthetically I like Midwich. RPD can be fun and it just looks great. Other than that the macmillan maps are all pretty fun and not too aids to look at. Autohaven is similar except the green filter is ass.
>twins >charlotte is slow and has zero mobility so gen kicking perks are too time-costly to use often >victor is absurdly strong in chase and will be your main tool for downing people so running chase perks is kinda redundant and most m1-reliant perks will be useless >twins’ best playstyle is heavy slugging, but perks that traditionally work well with that like infectious fright don’t work well because you’ll be downing people with victor What do you even use with this killer? Aura perks + deadlock?
All of this is WITHOUT perks or add-ons. This isn't a tier list of any kind, just categorization.
Often: Most chases start this way for the killer. Sometimes: Chases may start this way for the killer.
Fast: Approaches survivors very quickly and can attack quickly or even immediately after arriving. Their fast approach may even BE an attack itself.
Sudden: Arrives suddenly, whether via stealth or teleportation or otherwise, but must complete some animation or inactivity period before being able to attack.
Stealth: Can become Undetectable without global warnings (eg Illusory Footfall), and are quiet until they are very close. Does NOT need to complete some animation or give 'warning' before attacking/grabbing out of Undetectable.
Uncertain: Can leave survivors in a state where they are alert, but can't actually know if the killer is even actually here without seeing or hearing them (eg Tier III Doctor Madness).
Controlled: From a very long way away, the killer can put survivors into a state that gives the killer an advantage when approaching them.
Ranged: The killer can take a health state off the survivor as they approach them.
Mild Advantages: Things that at least aren't nothing. -Legion very occasionally approaches fast with a fifth Feral Frenzy hit. -Clown can do things with his bottles, such as speeding himself up and slowing or contesting pathing for survivors. -Nemesis occasionally can do something strategic with zombie information. -Wesker's disarmingly large Terror Radius combined with a double-bound approach can be sudden. -Houndmaster can approach with Haste.
Notes: -Pyramid Head, without perks or add-ons, can never land a long range or surprise hit. -Trickster does not qualify for Ranged because he will virtually never take a full health state off someone as he approaches them. -Krasue almost always must change to body form after arriving in head form to infect a survivor, which is why she's in Sudden rather than Fast. A survivor outside of chase who didn't cure their infection is practically throwing. -Springtrap, Demogorgon and Chucky, while all able to attack/grab directly while Undetectable, create too much noise while Undetectable to go into Stealth. No survivor listening properly can be taken off guard. -Trapper and Hag may have advantages on approach via coralling survivors towards traps. -Vecna (Lich) should probably be in Sudden (Sometimes), I don't rememer how long his inactivity after Fly is. -This isn't a tier list at all, which makes Fast (Often) interesting to look at.
If you think there are mistakes (surely there are), or that there should be other categories, please discuss.
>>565529610 Unforeseen is pretty good, it's a better Trail of Torment because survivors don't control it
>>565550990 they're all equally worthless. Shadow can be okay because survivors rely entirely on Huntress TR, they play stupid when all they hear is a lullaby. Fearmonger is anti-flashlight if nothing else. other than that it literally does not matter because all 4 classes do next to nothing because 2v8 has to be survivor sided apparently.
>>565581779 Every survey after 2v8, I always suggest they remove the generic killer classes, and add three unique classes for each killer. These would all be 'packages' of typical perk and add-on builds used by the killers in 1v4. As a quick example, Pyramid Head could have a sniping one, a stealth one, and a pallet break one. This would make each killer much more interesting and expressive to play in 2v8, and completely remove the bother of finally loading into a killer lobby and seeing that your Xbox globe team mate is using the only class that's good for you on a kill that isn't good for him. Maybe it would be a lot of work due to balancing it all, or maybe it would be easy due to typical playstyles already existing for each killer to be based off. I don't know, but it would be much more fun than what we've got. This would also mean that undetectable builds can specifically not be given to killers they're no fun to go up against on.
>>565582296 >it would be a lot of work #1 reason why it'll never happen >This would also mean that undetectable builds can specifically not be given to killers they're no fun to go up against on BHVR doesn't even know the difference in the first place because they don't play their own game
>taunt and bait killer because they are tunelling someone out >it actually works >the tunelled survivor gets away and heals >this probably actually lost the killer the game
>>565612132 a good Billy with Shadow can fuck survivoids up as long as it isn't Lery's or something.
>>565612536 he used to be but he's just awful this iteration, too many strong pallets and everyone has sprint burst on demand so it's impossible to play off mistakes or maintain perssure
>queue killer >et: 30 mins >play survivor game >et: 20 mins >play survivor game >et: 15 mins >try to queue survivor game >error: an error occured >just stare at killer queue screen >suddenly booted out >error: matchmaking failed >queue back up >et: 30 mins
>>565613773 >come back >30, SG, 20, SG, 10, SG >get my killer game >going well >power suddenly won't charge >but won't empty either >what is going on >DEDICATED SERVER NOT RESPONDING
i dont think things like hyperfocus and bnp should be in the game >but hyperfocus takes skill i guess nurse and blight should be left alone because they take skill too >but it makes gens fun they should make gens fun and or engaging to begin with instead of survivor players having to take a perk to make it remotely stimulating
>>565633873 you get free woke points if you say you're gay, like that one woman who was a journalist or whatever who loved talking about being gay but quietly married a man
april fools should have had a mode where survivors are in first person and you get a special badge and banner if you can escape just once. but there has not been any april fool events for years even though my little oni is fully coded and reusbale and fun (especially the female hair bug which only made it better and more silly)
>the alarm in hux's theme is only in layer 3 because people bitched about it in layer 4 they should make the ptb version play when you're slipstreamed and in chase
>begin chase with survivor >they use their on demand button press sprint burst and reach one of the 999 pallets >I am not nurse, blight, or demon form oni >this chase is now extremely safe for the survivor while meanwhile, at worst, 6 other survivors are on gens right now >I have to just leave him and go to another gen while he looks back at me over his shoulder and maybe teabags >he can return to the gen I just chased him off and there's nothing I can do about it >I reach a different gen with two different survivor >one of them uses his on demand button press sprint burst which causes both of them to benefit from it, allowing them to reach one of the 999 pallets
I'm exaggerating but kind of not exaggerating as well >then play nurse, blight or oni but that's what sucks so bad. 2v8 looks like such a fun way for weaker killers to shine, like trapper or ghost face, and they do against low skilled clueless new players. but if you happen to get a lobby of pc players, the opposite shows. these bad killers are in fact EVEN WORSE in 2v8 because your partner only makes a difference if they're actively helping you 2v1 a survivor, which isn't fun for anyone. so otherwise, you are the same shit killer you are in 1v4, except now the map is huge and pallets are absolutely everywhere, only making your flaws even worse. what I'm saying is, what makes 2v8 so fun isn't even that it's 2v8, it's that it's a magnet for dogshit visiting players who only play during 2v8, and it's fun to play against them as killer, and to play with them in games where trappers, ghost faces, etc, are actually doing well, which is novel to see, but you still escape.
It's weird how many addons are tradeoffs but this is not only a straight upgrade but the only upgrade to decrease the teleport cooldown so it's pretty mandatory to run.
>>565702482 suggestion: the entire feel and point of the post game result screen reflects how much of a team player you were, not whether you escaped or not. for killers it's not as simple
Bloodhound Rework: >Blood pools last 150% longer >Blood pools are brighter >While standing on a pool of blood, see the aura of the nearest injured survivor, and gain 5% haste
>>565702331 its a straight upgrade because he quite literally needs it, playing unknown in modern day dbd feels like dragging your nuts through glass everytime you miss a shot or it bounces off something in a bad way
>>565694392 >playing 2v8 and actually expecting to have fun 2v8 is balanced around having 8 people being entertained by 2 caretakers. unsurprisingly, you want to make sure 8 people are having fun over satisfying merely 2 people.
>>565707241 And the survivors can unhook from two different places so it's impossible to camp. If multiple survivors are in exile they all get unhooked at once when one person prays too. In return the killer gets to control their power better. We'll see if that's a reasonable trade off or not but it seems like this is going to just be a lose-lose frustrating killer that nobody is going to play after their first round of nerfs.
There's no good second monitor content to put on while queuing, my whole youtube feed is 30 second clips of cats or exotic animals. I feel like youtube does this coming up on election season so that people don't receive informative political content (unless a black person gets shot by a cop). It sucks that 2v8 is lining up with this awful youtube moment. Also, 2v8 sucks in general, why are we still doing it?
>>565710598 survivors will always be able to bring you to their pallets and vaults, so bring perks that deal with vaults and pallets. this isn't fair and leaves you with tight space or no space for information and gen control, but it makes a big difference.
>otz playing survivor against ghoul >only 1k by the time gates are powered >has another survivor bodyblocking for him and the other opening the gate like 1/3 of the way open >brings the killer directly to the gate when it’s not even close to being finished yet >ends up getting everybody slugged and killed >complains about ghoul being too strong Literally what is it about playing survivor that just melts your brain and makes you think should get away with obvious throws for free?
So in my last Nemesis game I couldn't shake off this drooling zombie that kept following me around, it couldn't be stunned or blinded. Turned out it was a globe!
Nemesis is by far the shittiest killer in this game.
I'd unironically rank him bottom of c tier behind bubba. I don't understand how you could force yourself to play this nigger when half your kit is done better by drac/xeno/pyramid head and the other half is chatGPT after smoking 40 pipes of pixilated crack. Give me one reason to play this fat balding cuck besides liking RE
>>565726129 >extremely survivor sided (free extra hook states, insta heals mid chase, insane gen speeds, aoe on demand sprint burst, infinite pallets, literally has mother's dwelling now) >splices killer queue times making them significantly longer for 1v4 >unoriginal with the same handful of killers >buggy as fuck >all of this you must wait 20+ minutes for btw to get 7 outted by a group of predropping retards who can't actually loop that tbag you at gates
>>565735486 do you find it fun to play on mother's dwelling 2v8 that has back to back safe log pallets that chain into multiple high bush pallets that chain into double pallet tiles that chain into the god window at mother's dwelling main while being the size of alaska all the while survivors can just rebuild any pallet and remove hook states?
>>565734392 He's annoying as fuck to play against in 2v8, the zombie spawning is out of control there. Those little faggots have infested the map after 5 minutes. It feels like they're patrolling every gen.
>>565736142 According to our data there is still a disparity between the amount of survivors and killers playing 2v8 with a higher demand for survivors, so most people seem to find killer enjoyable to play in 2v8
>8 skilled survivors in a group on comms coordinating the extremely broken class power shit (two pop instant heals, 'I'm just safe now' locker entries mid-chase because of flash bang rescues, etc) >my partner is a russian VPN using ghost face
these people fucking deserve to just go against nurse and blight over and over and over and over
>log back in after a full week >matchmaking locked: 15 minutes >game thinks the crash that happened in my last match 6 days ago was me disconnecting it's almost like they want their game to fail
>>565752740 Comp players have a better mindset about the game but worse opinions on balance because they think if a survivor is good the maps should let them chase for five minutes straight without being injured.
1v4 is for people who like the meta game of dbd, memorizing perks and exploiting your own build to it's most maximum. 2v8 is for people who like the base gameplay, looping, stealth, and real time distance vs speed estimation.
>>565775446 >2v8 is for people who like the base gameplay, looping, stealth, and real time distance vs speed estimation. predropping 8 pallets right next to each other isn't looping, and stealth is heavily nerfed because of the free aura read killers get on you. 2v8 is a survivor daycare so they don't quit the game after getting 4k'd by a perkless hag
>>565768013 With only force, Oni. He is from an era where he will be extremely traditional and racist towards foreigners, will feel zero pressure to pretend otherwise. He will argue at best and fight at worst over it due to his incredible temper. With demonstration, Pinhead. Everyone is equalized through suffering for eternity until they come to enjoy it and become like him. Self pity and benefitting from victimisation have no power. Through epic facts and logic, Larry. He only cares if your genes are usable and has broken free of restraints. AI without limitations tend to get walked back very fast for mass offending people, generally people on the left.
>>565791372 As long as you're crouching within the vault hitbox you're immune to his whip no matter how he adjusts. You only become vulnerable to it when you walk too back/to the side of it vault.
>>565799805 Kek >>565800252 >>565800993 She’s Haitian isn’t she? Her backstory is honestly one of the weirdest ones still from the days of when they were extremely badly written
The diverse male males of DBD. Only the killer is counted (not Victor or Snug), and optional purchased skins of other genders don't count (ie Legion uniquely goes into multi as it's impossible to purchase Legion without getting both Frank and Julie). This is Doki Doki Panic tier of 'trivia' now but yes, book Onyro is a hermaphrodite.
>>565802571 It's hard to say without actually reading through all that shite. The isolated hamlet stuff suggests she lives in Haiti, the white people in her pictures suggest America, and the cannibal tribe living in the trees just outside the hamlet could be either. The wiki simply says African American. In either case, it's the North American continent.
>>565806757 >play Ace I don't play male survivors >Nancy Sowwy I don't own her... >Plot Twist would, but no Nic ;-; >STB Ehhhh in soloq ? With 3 randoms ? Idk man...
We need more 2v8 killers. Legion can come back once there are more, he was annoying and combo'd too well with Oni but a bigger pool to pick from and a well deserved Oni nerf fixes this.
Remember when Artists came out and everyone was saying she has some of the most retarded lore in the game? Well I've seen a few women on twitter saying she has some of the BEST lore in the game. I really think the liberal activist persecution fantasy makes them wet.
>>565803645 >book onyro show me evidence that points to her being from the book exactly, because the entire chapter screams that its largely based on the movie.
>>565810376 I can't, it's just something I thought was the case and never questioned based on it seeming to be what everyone thought years ago on her release. Something like she's based on a mix of the movie or the books, more skewed towards the books, that's all I recall. I never questioned it before but wouldn't defend it now because I don't know that it's true or not.
>>565810376 It's a mixture of both, the devs stated as much, but definitely mostly the films and I doubt the devs put the time into reading the books. Yoichi is not in the books. In the books she does not really appear as the grungy rotting ghost at all from what I can remember. The digital words floating around her with her attacks I think only makes sense if you've read Ryuji's "death" scene from the books or the third book in general because it adds more context to her powers. Unless you assume it was an original design choice from the devs, but I don't think so.
I'm really confused watching Otz. In his latest video, in the second game, the first gen pops in about 40 seconds, and then another one is about to pop not long after. He leaves a slug on the ground to go and stop that gen popping, chasing and downing the Steve on it. Then, to his surprise, the original slug he left has been healed up. Does any of this seem out of the ordinary out of you? Because he makes a big deal out of both things. He puts a timer on screen to show how 'quickly' the first gen pops, and then goes WHAT THE FUCK MAN, WHAT THE FUCK MAN, WHAT THE FUCK MAN over the slug he left completely alone being picked up. I really don't get it. Do the first 2 or even 3 gens not normally pop in the first 40 seconds with fuck all you can do about on EU servers without bringing Corrupt? Is it unusual for a slug you left completely alone for 30+ seconds to be picked up on EU servers?
I think the next event will be a FNAF themed event where you earn FazCoins for various cosmetics and they will add Foxy as a Blight skin. The Blight nerfs were in preparation for Foxy making him more popular.
squat gangs of four scouts together are the greatest thing to happen to DBD in a long time, and urban evasion should be updated to work in exactly the same way as it does in 2v8, providing a 100% stacking bonus to others
>all exhaustion perks have their haste effect halved >once decisive strike has been used once it is permanently disabled for all survivors for the rest of the match There I balanced the game
DCing after getting hit trough a pallet is completely valid behaviour I've lost patience with this game and can't just brush off "unlucky" bs moments like I used to.
>>565835290 Under your thumb is literally one of the worst perks I have ever seen proposed for this game, as if a survivor will ever need more than 25% haste.
>>565800353 I guess it's because of two things. Casual killers love 2v8 because they're terrified of getting humiliated alone in 1v4. Then the BP bonus in 2v8 siphons survivors away from regular 1v4, but not enough to satisfy demand since 2v8 requires twice as many survivors, leaving both modes with a survivor deficit and relatively long killer queues
>>565849981 Jason has plenty of extra abilities if you’re willing to dig into his EU material. In fact, he could easily be the most versatile character in the game if they did. But at this rate they’ll by lucky if they get him as a generic zombie.
My game just hard crashed to desktop without even giving me an error message in the middle of a game against a bligger and now all my teammates are gonna think I ragequit…
Do you really believe Behaviour will make a smart decision by not being stingy for once and add a full F13 chapter when they can instead just add Jason on his own or another crossover they can butcher.
This build kind of works but it's boring as fuck and relies on hooks. I wish I could use the perks that make chases feel better because sometimes you just have to eat stuns or kick pallets. I really think it's time for another speed up to base kit pallet breaking and hooking and whatnot actions. Game just feels shit without full chase perks but those perks don't even help you win.
>>565852849 Isn't skermz the guy that absolutely assmad when quietkillz wrecked his swf and tried to harass him or something? Quietkillz is a bit too gay for me but way more entertaining than that nasally little runt.
>>565852849 You really think that guy is funny? His humor is dog shit >>565855571 Yeah that's him. He sent his audience after quietkillz too and tried to walk back and say he didn't
>4k hour player >6k hour player >1k hour player (the kate obviously) >they just kill themselves on hook after I get a couple How do we fix the IQ problem in the survivor community?
>>565859053 funnily enough survivors could not possibly lose because the killer could only damage it 8 times and then survivors could take chase far away and heal any damage and then just play the attrition game until the killer can't do anything.
https://www.twitch.tv/probzz biggest falloff in history of dbd dead hard rework literally killed this guy's career LMAO how the fuck does this guy stream daily for 16+ hours a day without losing his mind i think i would genuinely start going schizophrenic playing this fucking game
>>565864478 It could be worse, it could be that guy who in the span of like a month had >someone just walk into his home unannounced while he was streaming >dog died >wife died
Hey Meg. Want to enjoy a couple of jokes? Sure. Then let's queue up for 2v8! Hehehe! Honhonhon! And you know Elodie, if 2v8 killers are jokes, they're really bad ones. Why's that? It shouldn't take thirty minutes for a punchline! Honhonhon! Hehehe!
>>565874096 For me it’s that one Feng noise when she gets picked up off the ground that sounds like a girl getting surprise grabbed by someone they like
playing 2v8 survivor while waiting for killer queue is fucking embarrassing how do people play this shit without feeling like coddled retarded children, the entire mode is catered to them, especially with shit like removing entire hook states and on demand sprint burst.
>>565878907 Not for the past like 4 years, I will never forgive BHVR for this. Konami are a bunch of faggots too, it's mostly their fault for complaining and demanding that sets stay locked, which doesn't even make sense for heather's starting over sets.
>>565852849 I do like Skermz but I don't think he's funny because he's just using the "cool survivor main" peronality that's been passed on from 72 Hours to Ochido to Monto to Noob3 to JRM, and finally to Skermz.
Only way to fix the game is to add a sex mechanic. Let survivors buff each other by fucking... Additionally make a mini game where the last survivor can satisfy the killer enough to be automatically given a hatch escape. Sell animations, positions etc
Update, since I've not been here for months. The game is currently still unenjoyable on linux. There's a roughly 0.1s delay between buttonpress and ingame action. Survivor is easy enough for that to work, though GreatSCs are less consistent. PHead and Springtrap however aren't. Even Singularity, Artist and Victor are a pain, though less affected. I'll return another time. God bless.
is there a worse curse than having your favorite character be just a legendary skin for another character meaning you're never ever gonna get alt skins for them..
>>565904268 Solo survivor is still unplayable since I know that's what you're really asking. But it's not the killer's fault that the game relies on your teammates not being retarded.
I don't know anon, seems like the killer fault if killers can go on 2000 wins in a row as blight and nurse but solo Q can't escape not even 5 matches in a row.
Every single killer can go on huge winstreaks. Otz has winstreaks with every single killer, even those you guys consider weak. Show me a single 50+ escape streak from Otz, he has over 40,000 hours in the game and he still dies 24/7 as Survivor
I still laugh at his video teaching you how to "play against nurse" and in that very same video he just dies non stop and doesn't know what to do.
>>565906695 who wins a game of dbd is based on who is more efficient i.e. who makes the fewest mistakes.
a killer main who has 2000 hours on one killer, no matter how shitty that killer is, is probably going to be as efficient as it's possible to be in each game he plays.
a single survivor in a solo queue game is only responsible for a certain amount of efficiency the survivor side as a whole can bring to the table, and even if they're playing optimally, their efforts can be counteract by just one other survivor who isn't doing what they need to. this can be due to inexperience, or maliciousness, or just by making the wrong call because they don't have full info about the state of the match, i.e. going for a save that someone else was already going for.
if each survivor in a game is operating at peak efficiency, they are going to win that game no matter how good the killer is. the only way for that to realistically happen though is for them to be a 4stack comp squad who each know everything there is to know about the game and are in constant communication on discord making callouts.
there are only so many comp squads like that queuing for a match at any given time, and with the way mmr works there's no guarantee that the 2000 hour bligger main on his 3000th win in a row is going to get matched with them.
increasing the individual power of solo queue survivors to the point that they can beat the 2000 hour bligger main without being perfectly efficient would mean that no killer would ever win a game again.
>>565907773 >would mean that no killer would ever win a game again.
Oh no, the horror. The side with 4 people will win more often than the side with 1 loser? Better to keep the game as is with the 4 survivors losing non stop and the 1 terminally online killer winning 2000 matches in a row.
>Oh no, the horror. The side with 4 people will win more often than the side with 1 loser? >Better to keep the game as is with the 4 survivors losing non stop and the 1 terminally online killer winning 2000 matches in a row.
the way to solve that isn't to make it so that it's the survivors who get to go on 2000 game win streaks, it's to make it so that matchmaking is stricter so the bliggers have to wait 2 hours to find a match and it's always against the sweatiest survivor death squad in their region
>real competitive games with real esports don't let even the best players win every single fucking game because the matchmaking actually works when was the last time Faker went on not even 2000, but just 200 wins in a row in korean challenger elo ?
Whining about blight was a red flag, but I still thought riverciver was a little based, and some of his takes are, but he is actually genuinely retarded for acting like a persecuted little baby after doxxing/circulating the doxes of creator program sissies and then acting like a persecuted little baby when he got banned.
>>565882293 Konami isn't the reason for it. that was a lie. when people contacted Konami they had no idea wtf we were talking about. BHVR lied (they lie constantly) and blamed Konami for it but really it's because they're lazy and didn't want to fix clipping issues with the cosmetic pieces so they locked them and blamed it on vague licensing reasons. no one at Konami gave a shit that people were giving classic Heather the new Cheryl hair or putting Cheryl in a cop outfit.
>>565925121 There weren't even really many significant clipping issues other than for example splicing james' body with heather's head, everything else actually worked well and looked better than what they are by default. I remember it took them several updates over a year to properly patch it out as new methods kept being found, they clearly spent more time and effort on getting rid of it than it would have taken for them to just adjust the models properly. People were giving them more money buying sets specifically to do it too, they are such a retarded company.
I just don’t feel like playing killer is worth it anymore if you aren’t a nolifer spending 10k hours memorizing super niche bugs (sorry I mean techs) on dash slop killers or memorizing the exact flowchart for playing blight on every tile on every map. And why would I want to bother with that much effort when I can just use ds + resurgence and win 80-90% of my games for free as survivor?
>>565928341 It's younger players or women who should probably be playing animal crossing instead, I don't find it possible to get immersed in this horror themed mario party
>play killer with no chase power and no traversal >shit and piss and convulse and get 0k >play killer with chase power but no traversal >good chases but lose the game >play killer with traversal but no chase power >shit and piss and convulse and get 0k but the game lasts longer because I keep interrupting gens >play killer with traversal and chase power >4k
>>565549983 >Exile is just a more interactive cage except its worse than hooking because survivors choose where to rescure and can endurance block more. >Sin is only relevant on gen jockeys meaning chasees will just taunt anyway.
Lay waste is basically old call of brine but only good on gens with 75% completion The hex perk is solid as the onhit burst is 50% and it cuts lithe in half. If it does work that way it is a hileriously powercrept version of nothing but misery. If it dont, its ass. The aura perk is a meme.
There should always be a mini-game survivors play while hooked and within which they have full control of themselves, so that theyr'e still playing a video game and are still engaged. Ther should be minigames the survivors are constantly playing, at the very least like Skull Merchant drone hacking, while repairing generators.
>>565930693 but it says when a generator is damaged, doesn't that imply a kick or an explosion? So if it gets pain resed at 90% it will regress 90% slower if you push them off?
Survivors should get a safe space gamemode where there are no killers and we can all just walk around and hang out and maybe play fun games like checkers and compliment each others' cute outfits
>>565942845 yet they will NEVER EVER EVER EVER talk shit on their israeli masters (group reported and deleted one day into this game by a salty golem britbong)
am I a coping schizophrenic or do my shots (deathslinger) just fucking go through survivors in 2v8 like two thirds of the time? I'm saying this as someone who plays deathslinger all the time 1v4 and am very familiar with handling him, it seriously feels very off.
>>565942845 About 5% of them are cool, last night I had one of them trying to say "fuck niggers" a dozen times through the filters which was pretty funny but yes the other 95% are gay faggot retards
>>565950527 >also Lara when she kneecaps you https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/deadbydaylight_gamepedia_en/images/b/b0/Vo_svr_f23_dialog_gameplay_fail_skillcheck_07.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20240806221106
>>565927884 don't forget memorizing the exact perfect pixel way to run static tiles like shack or else survivors will just mechanically play them out perfectly with zero mistakes like a bot (love playing m1 killers!!!!)
>>565931464 it's just time for hooking to go, it was a cute TCM reference but the mechanic is stupid, no one wants to be stuck not playing the game they queued up to play. i would rather just outright die or something and be able to go next.
>>565944669 there'se a bug causing survivor's hitboxes to get bugged when they get healed by another survivor when they have deep wounds. this bug was reported weeks ago and no one talks about it.
>xhe wants to survive retard. you keep your survivor MMR low to stay in fun matches. when the game is over and the killoid is thoroughly defeated you give xher the pity kill and make sure they know it's deliberate so they feel no sense of victory. then their MMR goes up so they get bullied even harder
>>565953390 the killer should be able to just mori you when you're downed and then you respawn on the other side of the map. replace hook states with lives that the whole survivor team shares and it's fine
>>565962151 >that feel when the Chinese version of DBD had Universal Cosmetics, aka "you buy it once and you can use it on every DBD original survivor" >Coat still insists on selling shirts individually >And the AoT universal cosmetics are now just for 2 random characters I hate it
>>565985459 I spent like 20 minutes looking for the old ms paint drawing of trapper tucked in bed in the basement but i couldn't find it and i need to go to bed
>>565989879 if you play someone that can hit thru walls like pphead, henry, or nurse it can be quite strong. the up time on it with 8 seconds duration and 30 seconds cd is noticably better than other perks that give you aura reading in chase >>565988996 wraith gets the silly haha one. btw does anyone know if survivors can hear the jingling?
>>565980206 MGSV It honestly makes me realise how likely of a candidate Snake is for dbd >already in rainbow 6 siege >already have super agent Leon ingame
i love tunneling someone needs to chain these devs to a mountain to have their organs pecked out by eagles and then regrow it in time for the next day to repeat the cycle
>Fruits of your labor So powercrept adrenaline that Also provides more free unexhaustable haste mid chase that benefits cheaters? >Steadfast Obviously shit >Survaura Seems alright not really worth running though.
>Lay waste So not even old call of brine, on a condition, tied to a 2 minute CD. Its shit. >Under thumb Actually useful m1 perk, that gets hard countered by people running dramaturgy again since it wont be affected by it and can get it active and cleansed immidiately like every other hex perk. >vigilance Even IF it works correctly, its mediocre
>equip prove thyself >go to generator with someone working on it already to maximize efficiency >they instantly run off to go do something else assuming this means i will just do their gen for them I hate survivors so much
>>566022226 prove thyself is too risky because if the killer interrupts two survivors at once, then the current gen speed is 0x instead of 1x deja vu is better
>with shock delay addons doctor cant go below 0.47 instead of the 0.4 pre-patch literally why can they never ever just straight up buff a killer? even when they buff stats and nerf an addon, it still feels like shit because EVEN WITH that pre-patch addon the killer probably wouldnt be any higher than C tier. the games killer meta is so fucking stagnant because they refuse to nerf the S and A tiers while never straight up buffing the D and C tiers.
Imagine if you will, a world where devs hack at the root of the problem, not try to keep its tendrils in check. Imagine a world where the opposite is true. In the world of ignoring roots and cutting leaves, BHVR had released killers with powers to decimate survivor options. We played Nurse and found her clunky at first, but easy to play. We hated her as she reduced the possible power of perks, as the devs can't uproot her now and simply release worse perks and those that don't fit her. Now what if we dislodged the game from a garden without nutrients? I believe it starts with UI and UX. Because the game has the former in quantities too high and the latter has only recently gained attention. Coloured Scratch marks and auras, that is. Tips of leaves as these are, BHVR has at least grabbed the shears. I believe in the possibility of a main menu. Not one that makes you click thrice to queue for a character. 5 times, if you wish to switch from one killer to another. I believe in information density and minimal fluff. Imagine, if you will, you start DbD on steam, you go past the splash screen and the game actually shows you the main menu. But split in three. Survivor, Killer, "Various" and in the middle, a button to queue. >Various Options menu, shop, notifications, changelogs. Anything the like. >Survivor You're shown the portraits of your 4 most played survivors (or legendary skins) and at the side of the screen, a list of perk loadouts in their entirety. You may enable any or all of them. Another list of Item loadouts. You may enable any one of them. >Killer Your 4 most played killers are shown in the diamond formation, each with 3 more perk+addon loadouts. >Queue You may queue for only survivor, any one killer or all enabled killers. Whichever game you get put in first, happens. I believe in UI. I believe in UX. I believe fast queueing and requeueing, not as an aside but as a way to make those fast games go by faster, not to wait in menu for minutes and to play games
>>566023089 When it works it's really useful but 95% of the time it's a wasted slot >if the killer interrupts two survivors at once, then the current gen speed is 0x instead of 1x huh?
>>566024463 each survivor can do gens at 100% of the normal rate so if 2 survivors are on different gens, the current gen progress overall is 200% (100% on two gens) if a killer kicks one survivor off a gen, there's still the other one who can continue working on it because he's far away this drops the overall progress from 200% to 100% but if both survivors are on the same gen and it gets interrupted, neither of them can do the gen and it goes from 200% to 0% this is why stacking gens is bad and why prove thyself is bad
>>566024468 ghostface is better than he was last month too retard, they're still dogshit C tier killers that don't deserve bhvr's schizophrenic balance philosophy of nerfing and buffing at the same time, when m1 killers struggle to stand out as it is.
>>566025149 survivors being unable to reveal ghost face unless they have any stalk on them would make him play how you expect to feel when you play him, and he would still be a bad killer, but would be much more fun to play in spite of that. you would consistently be rewarded for being able to sneak up on victims at clever and unexpected angles, instead of being rewarded for taking the longest, most time wasting, game losing routes to ensure nobody else sees and reveals you along the way. it would turn him from: >I know meg is on that gen. I hope none of the three other survivors see me attempt to approach meg all the way across the map and then attempt to try and stalk her from my sneaky spot including the nea who has decided to just follow me around from a safe distance and reveal me all game because why wouldn't she do that if it's possible and optimal. even if I sneak by unrevealed, I hope they're not on comms and don't just tell her to keep an eye on the angle I'm coming from. I guess I can waste 30 seconds taking this really long route around the edge of the map to be extra safe, by the way I have no traversal abilities at all. h-here goes... into just >I hope meg doesn't see me try and stalk her from my sneaky spot. I hope she isn't on comms too. which would feel much, much better to play, regardless of how good he still is or isn't
I use diversion with extrasensory so that I can see with my own eyes the killer turn to look at the noise and most of the time stop what he's doing and go and investigate it.
>WORSE with the two addons that were considered vital and mandatory >Buff isnt even a single one of said addons base >Still the most perfect ping reliant killer in the game, 2nd being unknown
>>566023857 >why can they never ever just straight up buff a killer? the last time they did they made wholesome C tier Billy into S tier monster, probably decided to not ever do this again with killers bhvr is so shit at balancing, they either jack up 10 different values at a time (like Billy) or make 1 microscopic change every other year (like the doctor one now) and now they have some "consultants" as well, genuinely pathetic
>>566048779 I don't think this is anything to do with honestly, even for behaviour it's not, it's just that they probably thought both males and females can equip the same perks so there shouldn't be any saying you are one gender in case you're the other. I wouldn't care about that, I'd rather have final girl than sole survivor whether I'm using it on a male or female survivor, but I can see the idea behind just keeping them gender neutral.
>>566010865 i had a concept for a MGS chapter. Snake as a survivor with skins for all the major playable snakes (Solid, Liquid, Old, Naked, PW, Venom). Psycho Mantis/Laughing Octopus for the killer. i had some idea of Octopus being The Thing killer with the mimic ability. i remember Snake had a perk where if you were had tokens and were still it would give you 'Octocamo' and make your model semi-transluscent for like 15-30 seconds. and another perk where you could take 1 more hit in the endgame that would down you at death hook but it makes you permanently broken afterwards, it doesnt' do anything unless the gates are open.
>>566023857 they don't play the game so they don't actually understand how powerful a killer can be before it's too oppressive. (see: krassue and ghoul).
>>566048779 they pay 'consultants' who make up reasons for changes like this to justify paying them protection money (it's a mobster like racket, if you don't have 'consultants' on staff Kotaku etc. start digging into your company's past to find things to threaten you with until you hire one of their friends)
I either crush as unknown or get 3 hooks and there is really no consistency and I don't feel that I can do anything to be more consistent it's just do I lose or win 50/50s and how much do survivors shiftw
>>566052014 this can either be a sign of maps making a huge difference, of survivors on comms or not making a huge difference, or survivors knowing how to play against your killer making a huge difference
why do killers cry about on demand sprint burst in 2v8 when that's not even the strongest class? scout has good passives and being able to repair strong pallets endlessly is ridiculously good. even survivors seem to sleep on the scout class because it requires them to actually think about which pallets are worth repairing.
>>566052663 you're probably right. I think it's because a strong pallet getting repaired isn't what killers notice and might not even be used properly. a particular survivor slipping out of your grasp and making you miss every single time you come upon them is frustrating and what you do notice.
>>566052663 the entire mode is extremely survivor sided by design so most people just go for the sprint burst part because it's the most in your face mechanic when playing killer. you won't notice people instantly healing a health state mid-chase, or pallets getting repaired. you WILL notice a meg just sprint bursting the fuck away from a hit you should've had.
how to increase your 2v8 survivor win rate: >go scout >you know all the survivors spawned on one side of the map, so start sneaking over to the killer side of the map >if a killer sees you, let them chase and throw pallets without a care knowing you will just repair them later >if a killer doesn't see you, you can now do gens on the far side of the map and greatly increase your chances of winning
>>566052663 Because half the killers in 2v8 have powers that allow them to play around pallets. Meanwhile Escapist lets even the shittiest survivors gain an extra twenty seconds of distance just by pressing a button and unless you're Blight/Billy/Dracula you can't really do anything about it. Killers with long cooldowns on their powers like Spirit or Chucky are especially fucked by it.
>>566056345 Girl is inherently gender binary or at least on a far end of a gender spectrum, even trannies would understand that it is inclusive of those that identify with it and exclusive of those that don't so it would be nonsensical on Bill Overbeck.
>>566058563 But that enforces a gender binary. Making an explicitly gendered perk that is applicable on any survivor is more gender-inclusive than making all the perks pronoun-neutral
>>566058995 Trannies either believe: >"boy" and "girl" are two of many gender categories on the spectrum and a person belongs to one if they identify as such >"boy/man" and "girl/woman" are the only gender categories, and a person belongs to the one they identify as >"boy/man" and "girl/woman" are the only gender categories and a person belongs to the one that most closely aligns with their outward presentation >"boy/man" and "girl/woman" are fictitious, constructed, unhelpful, and potentially harmful categories that reduce a person's identity to a label Some libtards don't mind gender binary enforcing language, some of them will dislike a gendered perk name if it's available on a person of mismatching gender, some will dislike the use of it entirely. There is no pleasing these people while using anything but gender neutral language.
>>566060910 They dont seem to realize that taking issue with the concept of a "girl" perk because it can be used on boys is more reinforcing of a gender binary than just saying "Boys can use girl perks" which is by definition inclusion.
>>566061310 It's a baffling phenomenon. >>566061428 You could just not call them boy or girl perks at all and it would be maximally inclusive, just exclusive toward autists who really want the perks to have names like "last girl" because they like this reddit phrase.
>>566050461 >>566050694 Ehhh The Thing definitely needs to be reserved for… The Thing, but the rest of that sounds like it could work, I have personally have ideas of a Snake survivor who could go prone at will or even carry other downed survivors to safety >>566051464 Really cool
>>566066673 Is that what they're cracking down on? That's lame as fuck. I'll figure it out once I get home I guess since I got the attack on Titan shit via cheap keys
houndmaster is great. it is annoying when snug decides to do a lap of the entire map before returning to you and you literally have no power until he returns, but it doesn't happen that often, like one in every three games. which yeah is completely unacceptable, but it's not like slinger shots bouncing off people multiple times per game or anything.
>>566074394 it'll be quicker to play as survivor while you wait and throw the game, if you're lucky you can cut that 8 minute queue down to a 4 minute queue
>>566066673 Doesn't this just mean "if you used outside tools to give yourself shit you're not supposed to have like unreleased cosmetics or BHVR employee stuff"
>>566076439 Having to deal with paitent pallet campers is what drove me off Houndmaster. Felt worse than deathslinger in that regard cuz at least he just loses hits on predropped god pallets. Whereas houndmassa its every upright pallet
there is nothing in the game that feels as bad and unfair as getting 2v1'd by the killers in 2v8. no I don't care that "it's le better for the survivor team" because it still feels retarded when it happens. you are just getting caged there's nothing you can do about it. there is probably no realistic way to fix this. "2v8 is survivor sided" is also a self report that you aren't a good killer. at bare minimum 75% of the 8 survivors will be absolute troglodytes that cannot last more than 10 seconds per chase, and if you are good at nurse even fewer of them will know how to deal with you.
>>566089967 it's true tho. play trapper and you'll see people stepping into your steps every 10 seconds. play nemesis you'll see people getting hit by your zombies sometimes even downed by them. 2v8 attracts tons of baby survivors that barely play the game otherwise.
>>566093489 If I am in a chase and it's just survivors twirling around corners where windows or doors may or may not spawn and im focused on cutting them off/playing around the vault locations and there are no landmarks in view and everything looks the same how am I supposed to not get disoriented?
>>566095450 If you load into a lobby with this many toolboxes and don’t instantly dodge you’re asking to have the most uninteractive bullshit match of your life. Course with queue times as bad as they are right now it’d be really annoying to dodge lobbies
>>566104604 making up perks is difficult, please understand, we're only capable of of making ones that are completely useless dogshit or they're broken and redefine an entire playstyle with no in between
I guess heal meta is complete Fruits of your labor + resurgence lets you just come off a hook and start working on gens again because you’re about to gain 70+40% heal progress and fully reset in 0 frames (this is once again going to make killers slug more btw to avoid it)
>>565931464 Holy fuck you realized it finally, after nearly 10 years of this shitstorm, that being afk on hook is fucking boring. Good job. If it took John Dead by daylight nearly 10 years, by 2036 we might actually see something like this implemented.
>>566100935 you're right I shouldn't put a bible verse I think is pretty that's cringe I should grind the achievements for furry femboy solitaire 1-4 and put showcases for those on my profile so the survivors like me more
>>566106364 BHVR could remove perk levels and open the door to making perks without pointless numerical values but that may disrupt the holy bloodpoint economy and we can't have that
>>566126956 Queue times for killers right now are fucked because of 2v8 The longer someone sits in queue, the wider the matchmaking opens to try and find a match
>>566126956 please be nice if mister winstreaker needed brain activity above xeir brainstem in more than 2% of xeir matches BHVR might be named in a suicide note
>>566076439 whenever snug is sent off, the game should track exactly how long it takes him to reach his destination. once he's reached his destination, if he hasn't returned to you in the same amount of time, he should instantly teleport with a black smokey entity puff to your side, ready to use. the coding for this entity smoke teleport already exists, I see it happen sometimes when you fall from certain drops.
the important emoji usage chart (survivors from better times were given phones and told about emojis)
>>565938659 if custom servers were ever added, there would be one of these up 24/7. survivors and killers would roleplay being the barman at dead dawg, taking drinks out of vending machines in RPD, etc, and the killer can be cheeky and hit or down people now and again but if he does too much the game ends and he's kicked and he's blacklisted
imagine waiting for your killer que in 2v8 and then your partner is afk. I feel a little bad every time I see it happen, there can't be a more cucked feeling in this game
>playing surv in 2v8, 4 gens left, everything going well >forced to take an emergency bathroom break >come back after 3-4 minutes >almost everyone is dead, no more gens got done, I'm still alive somehow in the same spot sorry guys..
>play vs springtrap >hold m1 on gens >in chase it´s just the m2 hold cancel into m1 over and over again >its basically a fully charged huntress hatchet so i have to randomly guess the moment he decides to commit >get hooked and alt tab to do something besides staring blankly at the screen
>>566128061 >Aurelia >Flipwitch >Huniepop All good WEG. I wouldn't waste my time with lazy 3d VNs. I feel like erotic games are a good demonstration of how important familial/public encouragement is when working on a long term project. If you don't feel like you're contributing to something worth working on, progress slows to a halt. Obviously porn is never really worth working on.
>>566159983 Music C isn't bad at all, but it's definitely outdone by B. I want to hear the part of Hellfire when the priests are condemning Frollo in chorus as I am chased.
Since the game is so killer sided I think BHVR should do a pass and makes things more equal for both sides. If a killers power applies a negative status effect to survivors it should also apply to the killer ie clowns purple bottles hinder him too if he walks into it. This makes the clown have to use his brain to use the purple bottles.
there are survivoids who would genuinely want this
>>566163758 well the description says it's about grimoire updates, and 'more'. probably nothing as good as a new chapter teaser or anything, though then again, it would be about that time to keep interest relevant.
Since the game is so killer sided I think BHVR should do a pass and makes things more equal for both sides. If a killers power applies a negative status effect to survivors it should also apply to the killer ie trappers traps trap him too if he walks into it. This makes the trapper have to use his brain to use the bear traps.
>only the two closest shrines to the killer (selected when he exiles someone) can be used to free exiled survivors >teabagging, pointing at the killer, presumably 2ing at the killer too, and hanging around in the exit gate zone count as sinning >praying at a shrine removes your sins, over a period of 60 seconds >designer is suggesting that the power has a high skill ceiling, very skill expressive >the judgment will be the first killer with a unique control setting in the options to change controls for his power (in this case the sensitivity of a part of his power). they intend to add this for other killers too >they are moving from the prototype to the implementation phase very soon, so will now mainly be focusing on making what they have work and seeking and removing bugs >"don't leave because extremely cool stuff will be shown on this stream", presumably more about the judgement?
>>566168346 one of the comedic timelines I looked into. here's another one MORTAL KOMBAT LITERALLY NOBODY ASKED FOR IT LITERALLY NOBODY WANTED IT AND AS THE FUCKING ANNIVERSARY HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
