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its nice to go back to /a/, Taro is going back to give us another ride
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A2 better, or should I say butter
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Does this franchise have anything going for it other than plump butts?
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>>286302822
Yes. The asses ARE fat, but thats not what the game is about.
Yoko Taro's games and writing style are... unique. They are character action games with a strong story focus that have immaculate vibes. Really incredible music, cool boss fights, etc. And some absolutely batshit insane lore.
Nier Automata is something you can pick up dirt cheap these days, and its absolutely worth playing. Playing, not watching. The story of the game is designed in a format that really doesn't work well in anything other than a video game because the interactive component is important to it. It genuinely loses a lot if you turn it into a non-interactive medium.
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>>286303164
Yeah. Its going to be wild, whatever the fuck it is. Personally I'm hoping for it to be a true Eva alt-universe spinoff with a cast of new characters entirely, not just a rehash of Shinji and the rest of the canon cast. Go the Gundam AU route and do something new and let Rebuild be the finale for Anno's characters, at least for a while.
If they are going to insist on making more Eva, they can't rely on Shinji/Asuka/Misato/the other one forever.
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>>286302720
>Rei
wrong gal
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I love when she's happy.
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Replicant >>> Automata
I'm also hoping for a Replicant OVA of some sorts after the flashback in 1.1a
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What's the point of hiring Yoko Taro if you don't allow him to go all out?
Being unhinged as fuck is his specialty. Although i think he got inspired by Touka and Kaneki for 2B/9S which is why he wanted to portray them fucking too.
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I don't know why, but 2B smiling makes me unbelievably erect.
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>>286302822
You need more?
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To be fair i'd rather Taro/Okabe working on a high profile Eva series than anything short of a distinct AA/AAA drakenier in collaboration with a competent studio, and i think the later is unlikely given the current game industry and square enix
I love nier but a big appeal is how different each game is, even reincarnation felt too close to automata to my taste, i'm not really interested in a SE nier automata direct sequel cashgrab
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This. Yoko Taro *loves* angry women. They are always major, fan-favorite characters in his games. The idea that he would prioritize Rei over Asuka because they have kinda-sorta similar hair ignores the existence of Zero, Kaine, and A2.
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She is in my heart
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Its so obvious that the people excited about this because of Yoko Taro's name haven't seen anything he's done after Automata
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>>286309177
Are you afraid of butts, /a/non?
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Feels good
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I hate to be that guy, but I've only seen fanart of the character and all, I'm not at all into vidya, so I'm asking: Is this anime worth picking up? Is there a manga? From what I read of the thread, it seems like the game is the way to go, but I seriously can't into games anymore and I want to check what this guy is all about, since Anno's confident in him and all.
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You wish
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>>286302822
I would say it has
>really nice asses
>great character writing
>interesting worldbuilding
>overrated as far as philosophical themes and overarching story goes
>deeply unbalanced gameplay which is strictly inferior to anything like sekiro/souls/stellar blade, but gets hard carried by the story and other elements to push you through
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>>286308808
It was fun though. Production issues in S2 but they managed to stick the landing, concceptually a pretty rich show too
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>>286317448
secure data transfer, can't be intercepted since it's through a physical medium. no different from plugging usb ports, really
of course, the robots must feel pleasure in order to reward secure practices
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>>286315772
would say it has the opposite problem of nier automata, story is so bad that it has to be carried by gameplay (which actually is really good, but unless you like sekiro style combat you might not like it)
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>>286306250
Counterpoint: Nier Gestalt = Nier Automata > Nier Replicant
Sorry kiddo, Papa Nier is simply too based for your twink shonen ass to fathom
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>>286302720pretty sure the sex is gonna be between shinji and kaworu
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>>286302720
Asukafags have been coping for 30 years, and now suddenly Rei's going to win in one fell swoop.
Thank you Mr Taro-sama sir.
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Gestards think having an autistic senile old fuck in the role of a naive teenager is a good thing and doesn't out them as the autistic they truly are. Yoko Taro also hates Papa Nier because even he knows that he's an abomination.He's still a good father though and I respect his strength but Brother Nier is objectively better in terms of the lore, setting and he's just as good of a character and caretaker to Yonah as Papa.
The true list:
Story:
Drakengard 1/3 > Nier Replicant (1.22...)= Nier Gestalt > Nier Automata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drakengard 2
Gameplay:
Nier Automata > Nier Replicant 1.22... > Nier Replicant/Gestalt >>> Drakengard 2/3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drakengard
>>286307266
I always assumed Asuka and A2 had more in common. In fact, she has more in common with Kaine or Zero than 2B. Sexy cosplay though.
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I watched it, it was fun. Very clearly Taro's writing style. Not Taro's fault you got filtered.
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That was just a joke in an interview. A very obvious joke. Moreover, they don't actually go as far as saying "sex" or "fucking" or anything, instead they say something like "a scene where 9S and 2B do ◯◯◯◯" with the censors and then they joke about it more.
Yoko Taro does a fuckload of Japanese interviews and virtually none of them get translated but occasionally retarded western "games journalists" will pick up a stray quote from one of those interviews and take it out of context.
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Yoko Taro planned the game with the brother character. The only reason we ended up with the father character in the west is because they wanted thought it would be a good idea to involve the localizers at the beginning. They had a big meeting with overseas staff in the US and the overseas staff refused to budge on having the brother character. They said it looked cartoonish and anime like and that Americans would hate it. Yoko Taro said that if they changed it so much he wouldn't want to make it so Saito ran the numbers and worked out that they could do both. In the same interview they talk about how it actually turned out to be an insane amount of work because they don't just swap the character model, they have to redo the camera work and change the lighting and make other changes.
In later interviews Yoko Taro notes that despite doing all this shit to pander to western staff, Gestalt still bombed really bad and that's why it's been completely abandoned and he's gone back to making games for a Japanese audience.
Also pic related is the head of the localization studio, 8-4, that worked on Gestalt. They also censored it and changed character's personalities, and shit. It's less butchered than DoD 1 at least.
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>Worst things I can really say about Automata is the messages really hit you over the head multiple times when you get it already.
People who say shit like this commonly misinterpret the game to be about Nihilism or some other incorrect shit.
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Gestalt is nothing more than a literal Microsoft-mandated Western butcherjob localization, that ruins the game's original, superior premise, theme, story, characters and impact of it all.
The time skip literally has no purpose in Gestalt. All the main dungeons and side characters representing Nier's own tendencies and journey are completely lost on Papa version. And obviously, all resemblance of romance is totally nuked, as is Kaine going through literal sexual assaults as a kid.
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And it is warning us through a prism of a nihilistic android who gazed into the abyss, got terrified by meaningless of the world, created a meaning for androids and doomed his future incarnations to die repeatedly, not knowing the answer for him is love.
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No 9 isn't nihilistic. He found out he's actually a Machine and because the Androids are hyper racist against machines it made him crazy. He took Zinnia's plan to recreate the android's god and altered it so that it would kill all YoRHa at the end because they do not deserve to exist (because they are machines).
Yoko's writing doesn't have any nihilism in it at all. It's all Buddhist samsara stuff that gets misinterpreted as nihilism by gaijin.
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No. The name predates Automata by a long time though. tl;dr:
>Yoko Taro is a massive otaku
>Idol culture is a big part of otaku culture in Japan. It had a big revival in the 2000s and saw massive growth in the 2010s with things like handshake events and fan engagement and stuff. Picrel is AKB48's popularity, a big idol agency with their own theater in Akihabara (and they later got more theaters).
>DEARSTAGE is both an idol agency and a bar+theater in Akihabara that manages various akiba-kei idol groups (there are literally many thousands of idols in Japan, of every type, and with every niche). Its theater is another "sacred site" among otaku idol fans and it also started gaining a lot of popularity in the 2010s.
>Sometime in the early 2010s, Yoko Taro decided to form his own idol group and went to DEERSTAGE and worked with them to form an idol group out of three undergound idols. He called this group YoRHa.
>The YoRHa idol group had their first performance in 2012 and Yoko Taro wrote their lore for their pamphlets and stuff.
>This idol group actually sang music for Drag-On Dragoon 3 and they are included in the credits as YoRHa.
>Later, in 2014 when NieR:Automata entered pre-production, Yoko Taro realized that the lore he created for the YoRHa idol group worked well as a setting for NieR Automata, so he began to work on a stage play for the lore (YoRHa stage play) and used it as the basis for the setting for NieR:Automata.
So all that is to say that its origins are old and it wasn't originally conceived of in the context of NieR but rather NieR:Automata was conceived of in the context of YoRHa. I wonder of maybe people knew the meaning at one point, maybe there's some old wotakus in Akiba who know the meaning.
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A lot of that is just the localization altering characterizations and stuff.
>JP Zero is famously a completely different character from EN Zero. JP Zero is just straightforward and wants to get things over with because she understands how dangerous the flower is.
>Kaine curses a lot more in the EN localization, and you'll notice it if you turn on subs and actually listen to what she says. Sometimes she'll just say shit like "urusai" and the subtitles will be a huge string of swears. JP Kaine isn't cartoonishly over the top angry, she's just uncouth.
>JP 2B has a lot of grief, hesitation, and other complex emotions in her vocal performance. I have no idea why the fuck but the EN localization changed a ton of lines and made her super standoffish and completely erased all of her characterization to the point that western fans say she's a non-character and associate her with BDSM.
>A2 is actually really sweet and innocent in the stage play (as well as other adaptations of those events like the manga/anime/etc...). We see her super jaded in Automata specifically to contrast with her personality in the stage play, and her story arc parallels 9S by having her regain her humanity while 9S loses his. She's kind of the only one who is angry and it's specifically for plot and character development reasons.
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Despite the fanart and designs, if you go into Automata expecting it to be about fat asses and fanservice, you'd be disappointed. Especially if you go into the rest of Nier and Drakengard. It's very story focused. Maybe a bit too much at points.
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The papa Nier thing is very funny to me because the people who are still into that is one of the most clear examples I can think of of nostalgia bias. Could you imagine a JP company doing that today, being forced to change the character design of anybody because an American company demanded it against the creator's vision?
People throw a shitfit if a boob slider is removed
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Replacing brother with father removes one of the sweetest and most tragic elements from the game which is bro-Nier being forced to take on a father's role and care for Yonah despite being a kid himself. Not to mention selling his femboy ass to old men to make ends meet
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>All the main dungeons and side characters representing Nier's own tendencies and journey are completely lost on Papa version
I loved him being completely uninterested in all of the struggles and him basically staying an angry ape for the entire story.
It fell well into the revelation of it all when it is clear that he has just as much of "right" to his daughter as Gestalt Nier does, but he is just an angry ape wanting his daughter so he'll just kill Gestalt Nier without a second thought.
Yoko Taro loves showing what makes people capable of committing murder in his games. And in the case of Nier it shows Nier committing murder because he doesn't even believe in the humanity of the Shades he kills.
Having said all of that, maybe I'd be more open to Oni-Chan Nier if they didn't fuck up the OST so bad in the remaster.
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>I loved him being completely uninterested in all of the struggles and him basically staying an angry ape for the entire story.
That's exactly the Gestalt's biggest sin. It turns everything into a joke, and demolishes everything that's meant to make you think.
The drama's arch is gone, character development is nonexistent. Papa's just a Kratos-knockoff from start to finish, not a product of a dying, unfair world literally exploiting and misguiding children down a murderous path.
It's the American "Ring" vs the Japanese OG "Ringu", all over again.
>Having said all of that, maybe I'd be more open to Oni-Chan Nier if they didn't fuck up the OST so bad in the remaster.
The soundtrack is fine. Arguably an upgrade from the 5-second loops the PS3 version plays over and over again.
But, if you must have your loops, there's mods for it.
Or you could just play the original Japanese PS3 version, and have all the benefits with none of the Americunt censorship.
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At the same time the theme of a mature old man's building feelings for Kaine adds extra spice to the story.
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Papa Nier is still a product of the decaying, dying world, it's just that that development already happened (and with the time skip, you simply watch him way more stronger but way more fucked up, missing an eye and everything). All that's left is the inevitable character decay due to neverending suffering and inability to cure Yonah, which is of course present in both versions anyway
>the drama arch is gone
>a father missing a daughter is not drama
Now you're just making shit up
>nu soundtrack is fine, you just want muh loops
Perhaps, but the original PS3 was better and you know it
The one thing i can admit is missing from Gestalt is the relationship between Nier and Kaine. It's true, old man trying to appeal to the power of friendship sounded silly, and whatever Kaine feelings could have for grown up Teen Nier now looked somewhat out of place. But at the end of the day, despite Yoko Taro himself disliking it, i still believe it was a decent version on it's own
And btw, Ringu film series sucked major ass as well, don't try to paint it otherwise. USA Ring 1 was decent, but i admit the sequel was shit.
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>>286333844
yeah, anime is great, you should watch some
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It's probably the best anime from a video game that currently exists, the plot is the same but there's a lot of significant changes that make it very tasteful to experience for the first time. Don't be fooled by the first couple of episodes
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Buddhism looks inherently nihilistic from a humanist lens because it postulates that ego is an illusion and the end goal of nirvana is a state of non-self being one with the universe. The term is derived from "extinguish" and is antithetical to any form of individualism which is ultimately what saves the characters in Automata - so the pods choose in E. D is more or less the nirvana end.
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>God, how depressing. How do you guys cope
It's not as depressing as it seems. In the game all the actions of androids and robots are juxtaposed with the human world. The human world is the point of reference. All of this gives us a picture that makes us think about what we have. To appreciate what we've been given. Except for one sentence that A2 says at the end this isn't stated explicitly anywhere. So the final message gives a hint of optimism and a glimmer of hope. And I honestly think that it is beautiful.
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In Automata we are not given a reason to care about them, and in Replicant drama CDs we only wish Caim and Angelus had gotten there sooner, humanity fucked up colossally. But hey there is a human in Automata
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Automata still hold up if you mod 2B into wearing grandma's panties, if that's what you're wondering, but sex is kinda pivotal to the more important plot moments, the ass is not there just for the players to fap.
I'd say it mixes shmup and hack'n'slash well enough, which makes for interesting bosses and levels sometimes (though it can feel repetitive, especially if you're finishing the game the "3 times" necessary for the true ending).
The plot is interesting if you like the more existential stories about ayy lmaos and AI, it has a touch of pinnochio, childhod's end, and several other sorts of existantial dread. The characters are likeable enough, in no small part because 9S makes them open up into being interesting.
Sex is used kinda like a sisyphean task, the robots can fuck but that's it, it's the search for purpose in a fruitless activity itself instead of the desirable result it should bring. It has all the gnostic/absurdist takes you can expect from other JRPGs like Xeno and SMT, but it dresses them more in sex (and not in the same way SMT does with all the gravitas and risk).
Replicant (and the earlier "murrican" Nier) is more boring, the protag's reason to fight is more defined so the vagueness of objective doesn't land until well into the game, and by then I was already bored of fetch quests (since traversing is nowhere near as pleasant as automata). The futa is hotter than 2B though, in no small part due to having Tanaka Atsuko's voice (rest in peace Major).
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For me, it's Fio
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She's definitely one of the creepier villains I've seen in anime (or video games).Doesn't help that if you pay really close attention throughout the anime, she's always there.
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I gave bigger episode windows to worse stories, it's just that I had played the game already, and I started watching it with my wife, who was curious about the android butt game I had been playing and decided to give the anime a try (and wasn't amused).
How many episodes does it take to hit?
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Nah.My mother prefers papa Nier because she's not anime brained and simply does not believe the protective, obsessive relationship between an older brother and younger sister is anywhere near as believable as a father and his daughter.
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I was kinda mad at the time about it, I didn't care about the story much besides the lore behind shades and the twins. I couldn't care much more for Nier-ni though, he looked like he added more to the plot but was more grating than papa Nier.
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Re[in]carnation's story really only works in a gacha. It's too complex and has too many parallel storylines with too many characters including multiple versions of the same character from alternate branches. It basically had all of its side content written directly into the game unlike every other Yoko Taro game.
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Yes, but grab the blu-ray version because they redid all of the CGI scenes and stuff to massively improve quality.
It's a different branch from the game, so both the game and the anime are canon. Also, episode has two eyecatches with secret messages from Accord and the blu-ray box set's packaging also has messages that other fans have decoded.
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In Japanese Buddhism, Nirvana is the pure land of bliss and happiness that you are reborn into after death once you become a shinjin by accepting that you cannot save yourself through your own willpower alone. The true ending is achieved by everyone choosing to sacrifice themselves. Every single character chooses to sacrifice themselves for the greater good in the end (even 9S refuses to go with the machines). More importantly, the games and side materials and everything constantly hammer at you that you're trapped in a cycle of death and rebirth.
The game breaks the fourth wall twice, at the very beginning in the opening lines and at the very end. These lines also occur at the beginning and end of the anime, novelization, and other stuff. The version at the end is a little longer and includes two additional lines telling you what the devs ("we") believe.
>Everything that lives is designed to end.
>They are perpetually trapped...
>in a never-ending spiral of life and death.
>However...life is all about the struggle within this cycle.
>That is what "we" believe.
They also make it clear that even though the game has ended, they are still stuck in an even larger cycle because they've just reset things to the status quo before the YoRHa project was created.
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NTA but in case you don't know, the NieR/DoD universe canonically has a lot of different parallel timelines (referred to as "branches" in DoD 3). A character named Accord (who is observing tons of branches across space and time for reasons) explains this in DoD 3 and side materials.
The anime has secret messages from Accord in the eyecatches (strings of numbers and letters that decode to Japanese sentences) that basically say this is a different branch from the game and seem to imply that it's an earlier branch as it's the first time that they observe many events happening.
In the games, each ending takes place in a different branch (so they're all canon). It is assumed that each version of each stage play and each adaptation (novelizations, manga, etc..) also takes place in different branches.
You should still watch the anime though, for one, it adapts all the content from the stage play (most people did not know they were supposed to watch the stage play before playing the game as it has the first half of A2's story arc).
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Americans are weird, Nier brother is suddenly some massive incestfag just because he's doing everything he can to not let his sick sister, and only family, die. Gestalt makes no sense in narrative, why is Dad Nier doing fetch quests instead of having a proper job since he always worked so hard for the village. The story is not made for him, he looks and acts like an autist because he's acting a script made for a 15 year old character.
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A2 and 2B are lovers.
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>why is Dad Nier doing fetch quests instead of having a proper job
Weird argument when even in universe Dad Nier becomes a lot more wealthy through his "autistic" stuff he does.
It makes sense for him to go out in search for something to cure Yonah, money alone won't ever do it.
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The siblings connection makes little to no sense for westerners, their society has no familial love at all. for Asians it's easier to understand. Usually, the siblings care for each other because both parents work, and there's multiple cases of one of the parents dying from overwork in black companies, leaving one parent taking care of everything and leading the siblings to protect each other. Americans simply have no empathy at all
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Yes it makes sense for him to search alternatives for Yonah but makes little to no sense why Popola and Devola still treat him like a kid, even if they changed some of their likes, they always coddle adult Nier like he desperately needs them and doesn't know anything about their world.
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>Re[in]carnation's story really only works in a gacha
I know you said why you think this in your very post, but you're going to have to do more to convince anyone of this.
Why the fuck would any video game not be able to do the same thing a Gacha game does.
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Pure Lands and nirvana are different concepts. Being "reborn" is inherently antithetical to nirvana because nirvana is a state of non-rebirth. Pure Lands are domains manifested by Buddhas to facilitate the passage of others out of samsara towards nirvana.
There is no greater good in Automata. The pods choose to be human in the end. To choose humanity is to choose samsara and all that entails. For everything wrong with humanity, it is still the ideal everyone struggles towards, androids, machines, YoRHa and all.
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>You now remember you forgot to watch the 2nd season when it aired
>2 years ago
What the fuck was I doing??
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For me it's Hina, but I also really like Levania.
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>>286338554
>the protective, obsessive relationship between an older brother and younger sister is anywhere near as believable as a father and his daughter.
That's part of the point of Bro Nier's dilemma though, in that he secretly wants to move on from being Yonah's caretaker but can't out of duty and responsibility. It's why hanging out with Kaine, Weiss, and Emil was such a breath of fresh air for him.
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That's why Replicant is the adult's game, for a brother it makes much more sense to feel like that. Anyone who was burdened to take care of their siblings knows how difficult it is. Papa Nier with this thought would make him look like a massive jerk who should just go and buy milk, if you get what I mean.
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>>286302822
Automata and everything he did after was mid so not really. Yoko Taro's strength laid in the weird and disturbing both of which he ditched when going mainstream and even then his storytelling was always mediocre.
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Not much, there are occasional gratuitous shots of 2B/Commander/A2, and A2 is always curvy, but it's a bit of a disappointment.
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H-How many inch?
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Can you guess?
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Oh, good. I was aware there were different timelines with varying degrees of canon to each other (and Nier is the non-canon ending to DoD IIRC), but I didn't know Accord. I only played the original Drakengard in passing, and then Replicant and Automata, but I've never really looked out for the mobile games, novels and stage plays.
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>>deeply unbalanced gameplay which is strictly inferior to anything like sekiro/souls/stellar blade
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>>286347025
I love these trivial additions like the Resistance Camp members having actual personalities, more Androids around talking to each other, showed some other Yorha units doing their stuff, adapted one of the best quests in the game. The anime didn't make me feel super sad like when I finished Automata and Replicant, but I sure miss it.
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It happened to a whole bunch of anime, Automata, Ojisan, Maou Gakuin, and others I no longer remember. I think there was some big covid outbreak in a big Chinese studio and it brought everything to a halt.
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>and Nier is the non-canon ending to DoD IIRC
This is incorrect but lots of people in the EN fandom say it for some reason. In interviews, Yoko Taro explained that he planned that ending scene from the very start before he planned lots of other things. During development they told him at one point that they might not have enough time to make that ending and he shifted all of his work to only making that ending.
Initially he pitched the idea as having the idol Ayumi Hamasaki be the final boss because it would be this very jarring unexpected thing.
The localization totally distorted that ending by the way. There are lines in earlier chapters of the game that foreshadow the final boss as 聖母 (literally, "holy mother" but the term is used exclusively to refer to the Virgin Mary and Japanese-English dictionaries will translate it as "Virgin Mary") and everything that happens very much fits into the game's setting, down to Angel asking if this is "God's Kingdom" after being teleported to Tokyo.
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They are different but there is overlap.
https://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?t=26639
Either way, it doesn't sound like you fundamentally disagree that it deals with Shin Buddhist concepts, but rather what it says about those concepts.
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>>286348947
>The localization totally distorted that ending by the way.
Is there any fan translation worth playing? Since I've played very little Drakengard it might be time for me to actually learn about the series and play it to completion.
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I should clarify. The localization didn't really change lines of dialogue, but it censored a lot of terminology and introduced its own terminology to avoid offending Christians overseas.
God -> Gods
Angels -> Watchers
Church of Angels -> Cult of Watchers
Holy Mother -> Gaia
Enemies -> Grotesqueries
Large enemy -> Queen Beast
and so on.
You can find a copy of the Japanese script online and check what the original terminology was.
There's also a very rare script book of the game that includes additional information like early draft versions of scenes compared to what ended up in the game and additional discussion and stuff but it's basically impossible to find and the only person who had been translating any of it got driven out of the fan community for being a problematic fan of Leonard or something, so there's only a small amount of it translated somewhere. This script book does have a lot of stuff that was removed from the final game and it has led to a bunch of confusion in the fandom over what was removed in the localization.
The only other iffy thing in the localization (not having to do with terminology) was a line where Furiae uses a word that translates to "embrace" but is very commonly used to imply sexual intercourse with respect to her brother, and the localization translated it as "hug" or something.
Also, I forgot to mention. Accord is a big character in DoD 3 but she gets subtly referenced or hinted at in every other game. The timeline in general is
DoD 3 -> DoD 1 -> NieR Replicant -> YoRHa stage play -> NieR:Automata -> NieR Re[in]carnation
The other stage play and other stuff are side materials. The precise order of the timeline gets a bit more complicated with the revelations in Re[in]carnation but this is still basically the order.
You can ignore DoD 2 and even in a clip Accord says events after that have been stricken from the record.
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Because you had the main story, but you also had a LOT of other stories being presented to you at the same time. These stories took place in different timelines at completely different points in time and involved multiple different versions of the same characters. You would unlock these other stories by leveling up characters or doing certain events or doing certain things.
You could try to just "give" players access to everything at the beginning but it would just be absolutely overwhelming. Re[in]carnation had an insane amount of story content and characters.
Just go look through the characters on this page
https://nier.fandom.com/wiki/NieR_Reincarnation#Characters
then pick one of the characters and scroll down to character stories, other stories, and so on. There's also a ton of lore hidden in character stories and weapon stories.
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>uses a word that translates to "embrace" but is very commonly used to imply sexual intercourse with respect to her brother, and the localization translated it as "hug" or something.
"daku"? If there's an undub (is the game even fully voiced? I played it for like an hour 20 years ago) I might be able to get better context than playing with english voices.
>You can ignore DoD 2 and even in a clip Accord says events after that have been stricken from the record.
If the game is good I'll play, Taro is the sort of artist I like to just be along for the ride rather than anally obssessing over canon for (even though it clashes with what I said about my expectations of the anime).
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There is an undub of DoD 1, you can even find lets plays of it on youtube. I don't remember the precise line, it's been a long time since I looked into this.
DoD 2 wasn't made by Yoko Taro. They had some other director take over. It's largely believed that this is the reason why Yoko Taro chose to continue with NieR and then made DoD 3 as a prequel.
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I can't exactly disagree when it paraphrases samsara. I suppose you could interpret 9S's literal deaths and rebirth as eternal recurrence but then you're running into ideology so diametrically opposed to Buddhism you can't help but use it as a reference point.
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There were threads here and it had some big names attached to it but it was purposely really weird so it didn't get a lot of mainstream attention.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2023-07-17/everything-is-a- lie-yoko-taro-hiroyuki-seshita-jin- and-atsushi-okubo-discuss-kamierabi -god.app-anime/.199776
https://www.ign.com/articles/kamierabi-godapp-why-the-team-behind-yoko -taros-new-anime-compares-it-to-a-c alifornia-roll
If you like Yoko Taro's writing then you should watch it, but it is also just really weird.
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>Is there a manga
Only the YoRHa prequel about A2 has been adapted into manga a few years ago, and the anime does mostly adapt that manga through 2 episodes, otherwise nier automata proper only had a novelisation
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>Nier Automata DLC
>Breaks immersion and has you fight the CEOs of Square Enix and Platinum Games
>Yoko Taro hasn't had any of his work outside of some lost media nier gacha slop released for almost a decade
What did he mean by this?
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Thanks for the context of he creation of that stage play.
btw since you seem to know your shit, what was Taro doing in the mid 2000s? After the dev of DOD1 and before Nier's? He was much less prolific than after.
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Squeenix is ran by retards, which is objectively true.
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It's pretty crazy but it was also the norm throughout the 2000s for the Western game industry to have outright contempt for Japanese devs and culture. Things didn't really start to change until the 2010s.
Check out old X-Play reviews on Japanese games. You can find more clips on youtube.
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There were two different gacha slops (SINoALICE and NieR Re[in]carnation). He also made the new version of Replicant after that. He does a lot of other shit in Japan though, like a bunch of stage play series which could also be connected to NieR.
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I was referring mostly to the Christian censorship, like here >>286349437
>>286357565
I don't really know. He said in interviews that his dream was to direct a game and after he accomplished that he was happy to step back and relax and that it had been a lot of work. I know he continued working with Cavia and did video editing on DoD 2 and stuff and he probably worked on the cancelled Cry On game. I think he mostly came back to being active around the time he started working on NieR. Then after that he started doing tons of stuff all at once.
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Hope the covid hiatus didn't kill interest in ojisan completely. The Manga is far enough for a season 2 and I feel the Anime doesn't get the Love it deserves. Probably too niche and aimed at Gen X and Y
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Meh, i'm no better than fags discussing Asuka vs Rei or how much the Rebuild sucks despite the fact that Anno himself grew up and left the franchise behind.
I like this thing, so i will enjoy it. Go have your way
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Anon, you're underestimating /a/.
We'll keep sucking it even after you cum. Even begging won't make us stop.
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>>286373401
Everything in the series is both spoilers and a massive rabbit hole. There's also a massive ongoing overarching story running throughout the series with many things we still don't understand. If all you've played is Automata then you've only scratched the surface of this overarching story.
Everything from Accord to Dragons to the Cataclysm to branches and cycles to Group B to other stuff is barely mentioned in Automata stuff via secrets and side materials.
I actually think we might be wrong about how branches work as a whole. There's a discussion in DoD3 Complete Works where the writers say they don't understand what Yoko Taro means by branches and they just write what he tells them to write. They notice a difference in the Japanese definition of Singularity and Branches (in DoD3) from the localized definition and point out events in DoD3 where it seems like characters actually have different pasts, implying they're actually "shifting" through timelines. Also noteworthy is that in the last SINoALICE novel, Dorothy refers to the timelines as "worldlines" (both in Japanese and the localization) a term used exclusively in this sense by Steins;Gate (it means something completely different in physics). There are other references to Steins;Gate in SINoALICE as well. All this is to say that I think the fandom might actually be wrong about how Singularities and Branches work and it might actually be more like Steins;Gate.
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No, it serves the core theme, which deals with the Buddhist notion of Samsara.
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Thanks anon. I always actually write my scores instead of using a DAW. So, in theory, if I had three other people, this could be played live.
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>>286366116
I get what they were going for (basically saying 7th gen Western games are better than Japanese ones), but I think they overdid it with the Japan hate, especially considering how bad Western games got post-2009, which the West never really recovered from.
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>>286396423
No dude, they were straight up saying that "anime" is for weird Japanophiles because that was the norm in the 2000s. They did the same thing with all Japanese games, even Devil May Cry. 7th Gen western games were not better at all either, it was all multiplayer online first person slop.
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It's a different branch from the game with a bunch of changes and a ton of references to every NieR game and DoD 3. It also has two episodes adapting the stage play content that most players skipped even though it's literally half of A2's story arc.
The endingis a mix of C+D into E and it shows the the irl side of things in ending E (the game shows what's going on inside the pod network. Years ago the novelization explained that the pods are simultaneously fighting both irl and within the pod network during that scene. There's also a bunch of secret messages that tell us more about what Accord's up to and hints at future stuff.
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shame about the names not being true to the original intent, because I dig Enochian terminology. but its clear the localizers weren't being consistent there either given the use of Gaia and "Gods", driving home it's less about flavor and indeed about censorship
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My wife is so beautiful
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>7th Gen western games were not better at all either, it was all multiplayer online first person slop.
Which is funny because pretty much all of those Western 7th gen games got only a couple game entries and didn't even make it past that generation (or at best, lasted until the early 8th gen), died out due to it being very generic or became a soulless husk of a franchise. A lot of Western (really English and American since the Continental Europeans and Latin Americans have neutral to positive attitudes towards the Japanese) hatred of Japanese media is based around teenager tier jealousy of Japanese people not being retarded enough to rape every franchise into the dirt and having some sense of reverence/aesthetic taste too.
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>>286303713
Not that guy, but this reminds me that we never got an anime for any of the Drakengard games and I'm still upset about that.
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It makes sense when you consider they were all budget games and the first two games weren't that good in the first place. The biggest tragedy is the lack of a Nier Replicant anime. You'd figure they would make one to promote the remake but that never happened. Shame too since it lends itself well to that format, although with modern anime being so short, they would need to find a way to put everything in there.
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Accord spent all her "being an actual fucking character" points on her debut game. Now she's just a thing to throw around as a "HEY REMBER THIS" and to make you think Yoko Taro actually gives a shit about any semblance of an overarching narrative.
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Really funny how a protective sibling relationship, especially when they're orphans, is apparently less believable than a father and daughter when IRL plenty of dads will fucking ditch their kids and most fictional father/daughter relationships are either not blood related, constantly tense and at odds, or the dad is an action star going to save their kid. Which is basically what Papa Nier is.
It's not believable, it's just a more acceptable cliche.
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Maybe. I'm also thinking they would have to include some of the more emotional sidequests, specifically the lighthouse lady one, into the show. Of course they can't include all of them, but they did give the world more flavor that a raw plot dump can't give.
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>>286329883
cool and/or bishounen MCs were popular for like, 20 years before even that tweet. What a fucking lunatic faggot
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I don't think they're talking about her being THE main character, but rather her being a character in general. Apparently she showed up in the genderbent YoRHa stage play as a proper character so she can clearly show up in other stuff, but it's not hard to think she only exists post-DoD3 to just remind you that she's a thing at all without actually intending to really DO anything with her outside of her off-screen job that only really mattered in DoD 3.
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Does it really matter if we're never gonna see the results?
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Woulda made the second/third playthroughs more worthwhile that's for sure. But nah, just add a short segment that adapts a novella and shoehorns in Automata references cuz it's the popular one.
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>Does it really matter if we're never gonna see the results?
Yoko Taro was asked about this in an interview after the play and he said that the events end up the same somehow. That this is why Accord is observing timelines, trying to figure out why on matter what everything always ends up the same.
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Brother Nier not only is the canonical protagonist of the game, but most people recognize his as such due to the remake. Cope and seethe, old-timer. Even the devs (Yoko Taro included) hate Father Nier because he's literally just a concession to the retarded, homoerotic American lust for muscular men over dudes that look like an everyman triumphing over impossible odds.
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You could literally just do a Nioh style mission based hub and have the side stories unlock as you progress in the game. By the time the full game of Nioh 2 was out the side missions were greater than all the main story missions and DLC main missions
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In terms of character design, I agree. OG Brother Nier had a grittiness to his appearance that the remake Brother Nier lacks. Like I can tell they;re the same character but remake Brother Nier looks way too clean for someone fighting in the trenches for what must be 5 years meanwhile OG Nier looks like an actual barbarian. The same criticism can be levied towards general atmosphere and aesthetics and some of the music being straight downgrades (*cough* Temple of Drifting Sands) as well or just not feeling quite right.
However, I do think the combat was a straight improvement and the inclusion of the canon ending into the game is also a great thing. And while the remake isn't as mysterious as the original, it still has a lot of charm and is rather faithful to the source material. Even the music is generally good. I'd even say Hills of Radiant Winds is better in the remake than in the OG game.
It's an REmake type remake where they made some mistakes but they're minor enough that you can ignore them and enjoy the game for what it is, not a Bluepoint's Demon Soul's tier remake where they actually fucked everything about the game so bad that it's not even recognizable anymore. I think both games are great and I plan on trying the English patched Japanese version on RPCS3 or on a my CFW'd PS3 Slim when I get the time. I want to see the differences for myself and appreciate both versions of the game more.
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Also the character animations in the remake are WAYY better. Not to say that they were horrendous in the original, but it was a relic of AA development in that era. They're a lot more fluid in the remake.
All in all, both versions of Replicant are great ways to experience the game.
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They took away a lo of the percussion in the remix. That really undermined a lot of the primitive but mystic vibe the original had.
There's also a big difference in how it feels if you play it with a DualSense controller. That percussion feels enchanting. Taking it away just makes the whole place feel so lifeless.
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Neat factoid, according to a 2010 interview, that temple is supposed to be based on a shopping mall. The game's localization changed it from Temple of Sand to "Barren Temple", so you sometimes see it referred to under either name depending on the localization (e.g., NieR:Automata novellas refer to it as sand temple)
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Was there a chance that she would grow to proportions that would rival even Kaine's?
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Accord and Emil are apparently the two most important characters or at least that's why Taro says he wears the Emil head.
Every media is the greater DrakeNier is supposed to records done by Accord which is why we view them as routes and she even prepares the way by removing the curses from weapons in the game.
What's interesting it with stuff like when she killed N2, we don't know why just winning against the machines can't lead humanity to coming back especially since we know at least in Ending E we can revive 1 human at minimum.
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Yeah, Yoko Taro has been going on about Emil since forever. There are many theories floating around but no one knows for sure. It is very sus thatthe machines heads resemble Emil and that one Emil got put inside a machine head while collecting supplies at a factory, and then that YoRHa androids are made from Black Boxes, maybe YoRHa are actually supposed to signify the true return of humanity.
>since we know at least in Ending E we can revive 1 human at minimum.
Ending E of Automata just had 2B and 9S being revived(With A2 being saved by Accord in the anime's branch). We did get a human being revived in Re[in]carnation though.
That said, I don't think Accord's actual goal is to bring humans back. In Re[in]carnation they've pulled human data from across multiple worlds, including ones where humans exist or get wiped out by completely different means. I think Accord's is actually dealing with a far bigger problem spanning all timelines.In the SINoALICE story it seems like the Accord there gets captured and converted to Group B and a similar thing happens to another Accord in the secret messages in the NieR Automata anime. I think she's fighting some sort of secret war across space and time.
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I watched the anime, I liked the story, the atmosphere and the character. I tried to play the game, but
>Hack & Slash
Not my thing.
Also, I don't find the models in the game attractive. 2D is always better and the anime is superior.
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>>286447031
Fair enough. I'd recommend watching a playthrough of the game (either commentated by someone that's knowledgeable about the DrakeNier games or flat out un-commentated) if you don't want to play it though. The story of the game is pretty great and something you should at least experience once in its entirety.
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>>286445841
It's possible as well.
The flashback from the game shows Emil fighting the aliens.
https://youtu.be/kRMtk8fIjLs?t=399
The DramaCD also has Emil copying himself and fighting the aliens who show up and immediately start blasting. However, there's an odd discrepancy with the DramaCD. The booklet says the Space War chapter takes place in "The world 280 years after the deaths of Nier and Kaine". This conflicts with the official timeline saying aliens arrived in 5012 unless we either accept that Replicants can live for a long ass time (death of Gestalt does not imply death of Replicant, only that no more Replicants can be made from that Gestalt) or that the DramaCD takes place in a completely different branch from the official timeline (or that it was some sort of error, which is possible but other than a known typo in another document this would make it the only error so far).
https://youtu.be/pOC9zNu5eyQ?t=5439
So it's definitely possible that machines were made in response to Emils or evolved to resemble Emil.
The only thing we have that somewhat contradicts it is that we see that early machines resembled Pascal (and the anime had a whole scene about this) and I vaguely remember (I may be wrong) that the machines repurposed human technology for their factories (it's definitely the case with a factory mentioned in a SINoALICE x NieR:Automata crossover weapon/character).
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>>286448426
> or that the DramaCD takes place in a completely different branch from the official timeline (or that it was some sort of error, which is possible but other than a known typo in another document this would make it the only error so far).
Isn't that also a thing in Nier reincarnation where the machine lifeforms are said to arrive in 10,000 AD? Maybe the space war itself is a time paradox or has some acausal/out of time properties
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>>286449130
>Isn't that also a thing in Nier reincarnation where the machine lifeforms are said to arrive in 10,000 AD
I think that was just due to bad phrasing.
https://x.com/RekkaAlexiel/status/1538081316750565377
It's not saying that aliens arrived in 11937, it's saying that YoRHa androids are created in 11937 and by that time aliens had arrived and the bunker had been created.
Basically it's just trying to summarize like 7000 years of events under the date when YoRHa were created.
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>>286443592
With an important difference...
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>>286450227
What about android bois?
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>>286450201
Thanks, i was also thinking of a quote by 10H but i guess that's a case of unreliable narrator https://x.com/RekkaAlexiel/status/1862500667635769580
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>>286451318
yeah, I was thinking of that scene too but didn't find it in google. It's essentially the same situation. It jumps to that scene and tries to give you the date and a quick background of what's happened.
If I remember correctly there's also an official timeline in one of the books that has a typo for one of the dates and that date is corrected in other versions of the timeline. I can't remember the precise details though.
This reminds me that there is another major discrepancy (kind of). Replicant and Gestalt actually have different dates and Yoko Taro was asked about it in a really old interview way back in the day and he said it had to do with the nature of the repeating world, that these were two different cycles where events happened differently. This was LONG before Re[in]carnation and for many years people either ignored it or came up with many weird different theories and interpretations.
There's definitely points where events in the official timeline are clearly referring to a specific branch, like the event after Automata where Pascal negotiates a peace treaty between androids and machines (impossible for the anime branch). I'm somewhat skeptical of Rekka's Yokology timeline for this reason, she kind of just merges everything regardless of where the date came from. Accord's Library at least annotated each entry with a citation specifying the source.
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NieR threads on here typically live until bump limit. When the anime aired each thread hit bump limit so fast that there would regularly be people coming into the thread confused because they didn't realize we even had threads for the anime.
There also used to be a general on /vg/ but I'm pretty sure it died some time ago.
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>>286451688
I've always had the impression that the story of nier Replicant/gestalt was very local and that similar events would have happened countless time across the world, so I think it's rather believable that Replicant and Gestalt could coexist in the same timeline
And the vg threads died a few months back, it's a bit sad they couldn't survive to the recent announcements
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>>286451688
>There also used to be a general on /vg/ but I'm pretty sure it died some time ago.
Yeah it is dead. You can search archive for /tarog/
Towards the end, it was sad to look at this thread. No more than 4-5 people posted in it, including me. Most of posts were necrobumps, sometimes even without any content, just a full stop or something like that. It is just that everything about Yoko Taro had already been written there, and the thread was killed by the lack of any new news about the continuation or revival of his games.
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I could have fixed her, and give her the first babies in centuries
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Post more screenshots of her or 2B's ass
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Why dîdn't you protect her?
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>>286452860
They did do a funny thing with Replicant/Gestalt where they really wanted to cater it to overseas fans so they changed the opening for each region so that the Tokyo Tower would be replaced by some other local building. For the US it was Empire State building but you also had Big Ben, the Fernsehturm Berlin (Berlin TV Tower), the Eiffel Tower, and so on (I don't know them all but you can find pictures if you google). Pic related is the Fernsehturm Berlin.
That said, each game has to take place in a different branch (or loop, we don't really understand how branches and loops are related) and so does each route (cause they're all canon). There were lots of Replicant cities with Popola/Devola pairs but there was only one Original Gestalt keeping the whole project Gestalt running so he can only be killed once. You can speculate about the "world of recycled vessel" DLC but I don't really know what to make of it.
NieR:Automata canonically takes place in the Tokyo Bay and JP Replicant does as well (including all side material which is based on JP Replicant).
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I ran out of steam keeping up with things after the news of cancelled projects during the 15th anniversary events. I feel like we might actually get something new sometime since Takahisa Taura has been working on something in secret in his new company for a while now. Who knows when that will be though, it takes longer than one year to make a game.
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>>286454048
It seems like in Re[in]carnation they are trying to stop the eternal recurrence (and they seem to succeed?) but Accord's goals seem to be more about the "Falldown" but we don't really know a whole lot about that. We also know
>she's in conflict with a "Group B" who seem to be another group that can assimilate Accord units and stuff
>she's part of some big organization and while they were monitoring the events of the anime there as a revolt
>she appears in Utahime Five where she is part of the security system the "Mercurius Gate" with a mysterious entity behind it in the Cathedral City that was brought there from another world via the Cataclysm. There's also an amnesiac but crazy powerful person guarding that gate and writing from a language we only ever see in Utahime Five. The entity appears again in the SINoALICE x DoD3 collab story and we don't really know anything about it. In the manga, Zero shows up after it has merged with the Utautai (Intoners in EN) and transformed into a large flower so she mistakes it for the flower and the EN fandom calls it the "black flower". The DoD3 localization has Zero talking about previously fighting a flower that had been contained in the Cathedral city and it's likely she's describing the events of Utahime Five (except with some fundamental differences because the manga and the novelization are different branches).
>a version of her gets assimilated in the SINoALICE crossover story and she speculates that the puppets in SINoALICE are related to Group B.
>Every time the development of magical weapons comes up in the NieR world she's somehow related to it. This includes pretty much EVERYTHING, including all those human experiment projects.
>she removes curses from weapons and stuff for her weapon shop. The Japanese version of the Cruel Arrogance weapon story might be talking about a corrupted Accord as a "red-eyed merchant from the west" who sells a cursed weapon and then buys it back for the same price afterwards.
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For me it's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZBELmCNXUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vcoh3KgXCk
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>>286465949
https://youtu.be/_v4lMOzrgLk?si=Gs1m-jCJMgkDx52w
https://youtu.be/-jcAW-Hh7oo?si=NDXt9so0YQ3HiOoY
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Why is he like this? i though sinoalice was a self contained throw away series too...
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>>286466623
SINoALICE is mostly disconnected, kind of. It's not super clear.
Like, the Japanese-only DoD 3 collab (because the global version of the game hadn't launched yet) is definitely important but it only consisted of a small number of things:
>a few character stories (basically the same thing as weapon stories, but for DoD 3 collab characters that you obtain through gacha and level up)
>a few weapon stories (for DoD 3 collab weapons), like the one in >>286389533
>the collab event story
As for the rest of SINoALICE it's hard to say. The main game takes place in a location referred to as "the worst world" and "the Library", but it deals with lots of parallel universes and lots of alternate versions of each character. It has an absolutely absurd amount of character stories, weapon stories (Square Enix even put out a massive book compiling 1000 weapon stories in Japan), and event stories, and you got additional dialogue for completing chapters and stories in hard mode.
There's also a manga, a novelization, and a movie (which someone translated and uploaded to youtube) but they all have different stories from the game because multiple timelines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd5YH0YLKMo
It seems like the two puppet characters are somehow related to Accord (they freak out and refer to her as their progenitor when she shows up in the library) and Accord says she thinks they're related to Group B, but we don't really get any answers. Accord also says that she thinks the library isn't actually a meta-space connecting multiple worlds but is actually just a phenomenon created as a side effect of the cataclysm.
At the same time, the Library seems to appear in NieR Re[in]carnation, or perhaps just a representation of it (perhaps data from The Library has merely leaked into The Cage).
https://youtu.be/i2b6pjozj1w?t=595
Ultimately, most of SINoALICE can be safely ignored but do check out the DoD 3 collab stuff.
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>tfw always forever alone and harrased by the favorites
>again
>for the +20 time
https://youtu.be/_BhPOpWKUtc
https://youtu.be/S_tsMSPM0Iw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlast
>budism
>zen state
I hate everybody!!!
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>>286466599
NieR Re[in]carnation is actually extremely important. It is considered the third mainline game in the series.
Note, only the West objects to mobile games being mainline games and funnily enough this is why Metal Gear Solid 5: Peace Walker had to be renamed and why they made a "Metal Gear Solid V" as a fake 5th game.
There are a couple fan made projects that try to let people re-experience the game through a mixture of youtube videos and text. I think the first one here is the recommended one.
https://nierrein.com/
https://reinlibrary.neocities.org/
A lot of the side stories are also up on youtube so you can hear them with voice acting (the game had both EN and JP voice acting)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK8Z7QKgYTQ
You can also read many of the stories on the wiki but some of the stories have cutscenes and stuff that you'll miss if you go this route.
https://nier.fandom.com/wiki/NieR_Reincarnation
Square Enix also published a book that compiles the main story and weapon stories and stuff together and it includes some extra stories that they weren't able to include in the game before EOS.
Apparently there's also a Re[in]carnation novel that I don't know anything about.
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There was a secret archive made on /tarog/ but you need special software to load it, so it's honestly kind of a hassle. There's a LOT of stuff >>>/vg/500135007
Some madman also created this site as a bootleg Accord's Library. It has a TON of original JP materials and every time I look at it it has more content and gets reorganized. It has the books mentioned above under the "reader" section (personally I find the reader thing annoying, previously you could just download stuff).
https://thehumanserver.org/
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>>286466623
It's a Japan thing in general, they like doing mixed media shit. Mainly sucks for any fan that isn't in Japan cause they don't really bother to publish all these things elsewhere and it isn't like the MCU/DCU/etc. where it's easy and effortless to consume. Sometimes it's to do retarded that-kid-who-makes-shit-up tier shit like having Tidus blowing up and dying cause he kicked a blitzball shaped bomb. Don't think anyone really puts out phone card exclusive art anymore at least.
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>>286467143
I am no data!!!!
Tenkyuu Chimata lives!
https://youtu.be/ZwZC4vlZTbI
https://youtu.be/30_2oobyZLU
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>>286466599
Also, just to add. You can read a lot of side stories in Re[in]carnation in isolation because they take place at completely different points in time in completely different worlds (because different versions of each character come from different branches).
For instance, the Yuzuki story I linked above takes place in Tokyo during the Legion war and it's the first time we actually see Legion on screen (second time being in the anime).
Many of the stories take place in worlds we've never heard of before. Like one world where people are in an endless war against giant flowers. The game is a massive massive rabbit hole.
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>>286471503
Why not both at the same time?
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>>286333844
I loved the anime, it has great music and art style, and I love both the openings.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mAo9SVHRebA&list=RDmAo9SVHRebA&start_radio =1&pp=ygUSbmllciBhdXRvbWF0YSBvcCAyo AcB
>>286334681
Humanity might have gone extinct but I still hope for happy lives for the Androids
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>>286471631
Well whatever you do, I hope you not only do to the XTREME, but do it to bring Glory to Mankind
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>>286471390
NTA but Yoko Taro has Jun Eishima write all of his novellas and novelizations. Yoko Taro tells them what to write and it all has to get approved by him. It's like how he has Sawako Natori write the game script but he describes the characters, what goes on in the scenes, and so on to her and she writes it.
Second question, I don't remember. I think it's just some guy and she murders him. Something crazy. Many many years since I read it.
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>armor made to look like ripped tights
should go down in history for that
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I think Nier is the property I have the most pictures of saved that I have zero interest in playing or watching
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I love A2!
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>>286483515
The minute someone invents a real life 2B, that's the end of human progress. Once we have sex bots (with swords), there's no need to try anymore.
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>>286480836
Yes, but there are some minor differences because it's a different branch from the other versions of the story.
>>286483297
The game only gives you the Anemone's (i.e. the resistance) perspective (as a bunch of text files on a computer in the resistance base). The story ends abruptly after A2 goes down the elevator into the server room.
Everything in the game is covered in a single anime episode, the rest of the story is adapted in the second episode that gives us A2's perspective and reveals what happened in the server room, which incidentally is the most important part.
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>>286483515
I feel like they'd make T Dolls because that's more of their thing, I guess the difference would be semantics though
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>>286486714
I was both completely wrong and confusing different stories. She doesn't kill anyone in either.
>The novella the other anon mentioned
https://nier.fandom.com/wiki/The_Witch%27s_Banquet/Fan_Translation
>A DramaCD story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOC9zNu5eyQ&t=4784s
here's a translation of the booklet that came with the DramaCD that has some additional information and timestamps. The Kaine story is Disk 2 Track 2 (D2-T2).
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b7ORF0ea_p5nesJq7TRcjpWIBWiUNzfstp wx5u-qdbA/edit?tab=t.0
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>>286486834
Ok, I take that back.
I don't mind if she kills this ungrateful asshole.
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Was this that toxic yuri the xumblrs are always talking about?
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>has to access a late-game arena mode and set it to one-shot difficulty for the combat against some of the most simple mobs in the entire genre to have any actual bearing on your playstyle
You don't need to do this shit in any good action game
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>Check out S2 since S1 is boring af(i played the game with all endings)
>Find outA2 fucking lives
my wife A2 will help me repopulate earth.
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We made it to the bump limit. It was a pleasure meeting you guys here.
Take care
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I love A2
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