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Welcome back to The Program! Last little killing event was extra spicy, with Mitsuko Souma how hardcore she is with sex and murder! Now one of the most energetic contestants is awake, and we'll see how he fares with a new crowd.
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realistically only Mitsuko has any chance to survive
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Uhuh.
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Chapter 64
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I dunno why the chapter title has a mistake.
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Talk about a surprise. What a face in death.
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God he's such a goodie two shoes.
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Remember this anons. This decision to let the frog live may backfire on him. Or someone else.
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Chapter 65
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Sucking cock. Just not from him.
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AND HERE HE COMES. MAC-10 IN HAND.
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The announcer literally told you a girl was in the well dumbass
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Chapter 66
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"Only human" my ass Kawada.
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Sprayed in the goddamn nuts. What a way to go.
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Oops haha
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E X I T
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see ya!
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Chapter 67
Back to Shu.
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Um...based?
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My FUARKING VILLAIN
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Who dominates in bed, Mim or Souma?
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Mim first. Then Souma completely dominates because of experience and stamina.
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Playboy guardian angel. The best.
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>>286368847
There's a difference between coming from money, having money, and growing up in money. Most of Souma's "clientele" are guys who pay or are rich older fucks. She doesn't like what she sees too, considering her taste.
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That's a big ole Noriko event.
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So Kirigod can think and speak, just like me!
I thought he was just a robot
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Mims was just that guy.
RIP to a real one.
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Chapter 68
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Funny you mention that.
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I like their cooperation here. Very impressive for now.
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Yukio looks good here.
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Yukio with the hots for Shuuya.
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I'm getting red flags and I don't like that! I'm too hopepilled to see this pact fail.
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And here comes the fear mongerer.
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That's a death flag, but damn if Yukio isn't in the top tiers for best girl right now. I like her
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Chapter 69
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>Shu (El Demonio)
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there's a high number of crazy bitches in this class...
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Oh boy. This'll blow up.
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RIP MASTER PLAN
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Based tradcat schiz...
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OH NO
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>planned foiled by fat girl who eats someone else's food
comedy manga
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Chapter 70
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Now thats some fucking bullshit
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Dammit again
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What the.
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damn she's dumping the whole clip into that girl
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Chap[ter71
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Dammit. Another mispost.
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Oh the pages are out of order, that's why this makes 0 sense
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Yeah sorry. For some reason I thought I clicked the right ones but it was further chapter.
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177 here.
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For a Christian, she's behaving in an un-christian like behavior.
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Who would;nt be at this point?
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>rich parents
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Aaaand done! Danke fer comin'!
All it takes is for one person and one slip up for it to go so wrong. Shame, for besides Yukio I liked glasses girl.
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It says a lot about Shuuya's character that he went charging in thinking he had to protect those girls from Kiriyama. A lot of people would be sneaking out of the window instead and leaving those chicks behind.
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>For a Christian
This was another big thing the dude completely made up. She just uses the generic word for demon for him in Japanese because of how she saw him. She never talks about God or religion or anything, he just added a bunch of bible quotes because ???
Chapter 74 has maybe one of the most bizarre changes re: that, too, but I still don't want to spoil anything. I'll just try to remember to bitch about it tomorrow.
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I just replied to you in the last thread I think.
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But basically he just really thought the characters needed "fleshing out" because they weren't saying shitty catchphrases constantly. He added this whole thing about telling the main character to TAKE DA SHOT!!! or whatever all throughout the comic.
It's FULL of stuff like pic related too. Just him trying to make the characters quip when they're just having an extremely normal conversation (for the situation) in japanese. He's basically just saying something like "Oh, but more importantly than that..." here, but it became "HEH A SKANK AND A WANK!"
Another big change is that as far as I can remember, Kazuo NEVER has an internal monologue. Everything about him is just narration, you never get to hear what's actually going on in his head.
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The actual narration here is just like "Oda had no way of knowing this, but one day in the Kiriyama family's garden (which was much nicer than Oda's family's), Kazuo played the violin once and was much better at it. But after playing it once, he got bored and never touched it again. By Oda's own reasoning, the one to win should be Kazuo." All narration, also, not Kazuo jerking himself off.
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>>286372531
Like this is SO made up. They didn't ge the coldness that made this character work, so they just make him this really lame Dexter-level psychopath who whips out marvel quips sometimes. There's another bit with him later that's somehow even worse, I'll try to post some kind of comparison when it comes up.
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>I don't want to remember a character forever as a bastard if the mangaka never wrote him to be like that.
I think Mitsuko's a loooot worse in the English than the original. She's still not a great person, obviously, since she's still doing everything you can see her doing. In the Japanese though it comes off way more like she's just trying to survive the way her fucked up past lead her to believe was the only way. In the English he just made her an evil bitch who also loves doing it. There might've been SOME characterization like that in the original too, but I genuinely can't remember it.
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>>286372595
Thanks anon. Glad you are here.
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>>286372668
>They just made up an entire character.
I wish that was what I meant when I said that. He does that to ALMOST everybody. But in the next volume he LITERALLY completely invents a named character. Look forward to it!
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Thanks anon, you are "doing right" by this manga
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Get KIYAAAH'd bitch.
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I appreciate it anon.
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Unpopular opinion but I kinda dig the unfaithful adaption. First time reader, a lot of the times a direct adaption sounds a bit stiff, the colloquialisms and batshit characterization make for a more fun read. DESU I think I may just be nostalgic for the crappy translations I grew up reading (berserk faggot-ass monsters etc) so this scratches that itch.
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>>286372531
as i said in the other thread yeah i too remembered reading that. fuck, this bothers me, i thought i was remembering it wrong for a few volume dumps but this is awful, it's one of the most memorable moments of just how detatched kiriyama is.
he's a character that makes me sad, on all accounts he had the perfect life ahead of him, he had the money, the looks, the talent... but he was too sociopathic to function and the game ruined him.
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>>286371383
it really was a cascade of woman moments but also how are you supposed to make cyanide work in the context of a battle royale? she was lucky she was going to prep a stew for the guy she wanted to kill. how did glasses girl not put 1 and 1 together that the one eager to serve the stew might have poisoned it?
also even if she got shu she would've still ended up in this situation, she really had no hope from the start.
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>>286375282
The only way I can see it working out would be is she starts looking for water bottles or rations, poison them and just spread them through the island hoping for someone to consume them, but yeah, thats a shitty weapon
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>>286367989
Another translation bullshit. There are no cameras of any kind on the island. They know where she died on the island because of the geolocation but nothing more. They never announced that she died in a well.
This translation is so bad, the guy just made up a bunch of bullshit without even checking if it would be contradicted later on.
>>286371375
In a this kind of semi commie like government that's possible actually. Same reason why the son of a big politician was the class as well. They explicitly said in the book/original manga translation that you dont get special rights when it comes to certain aspects of life, like education or being chosen for the game.
You are only allowed to stand out so much. In some areas you have to fall in line like everyone else.
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According to one of the info pages (unless that was also mistranslated) the school they go to is a private one. Because the public school in the area is known to be a military school, everyone who can attends the private one instead.
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How about water balloon/plastic bag filled with diluted cyanide, would that work?
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Being a veteran BR enjoyer allows me to experience joy of seeing other people react to this series.
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>>286366787
It’s a bit dated, now, but this cover is a reference.
Never bothered to check to see if anyone else had mentioned it.
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>>286378299
Same, I've read the book probably 10 times and own both movies. Reading this storytime with so many newbies is making me want to read the book again too. Is there going to be a storytime of Blitz Royal? Never ended up reading that one.
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>>286374370
There's a difference between translating things into natural English and completely changing the characterization and even who's talking in scenes sometimes. I'm all for natural English but it's so loose in this case I'd genuinely say someone who's only read this version genuinely doesn't know some of the characters in something I think a lot of people would say is one of their favorite manga.
What kills me most is that the guy obviously isn't a translator (he never claimed to be), which means he was given a full accurate translation of the story and then turned it into...this? because he thought he knew better. And then they probably just threw the actual translation out.
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>>286380389
It's not such a bad weapon for a camper or a manipulator. You just have to adjust your style based on the weapon.
I'm pretty sure Kiriyama would've figured out how to do damage even with just the cyanide.
The SMG just happens to give him a firepower advantage which is why all-out aggression is the best approach for him.
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>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(manga)
>Battle Royale: Angels' Border
>The second episode is primarily told in a flashback to the previous school year. Chisato has a chance encounter with Shinji on the train back to Shiroiwa, and after an incident with a surly passenger, the two hop off the train early and spend time together. Shinji takes Chisato on an impromptu date, and the two get to know one another. However, they come to a shared realization that they should not associate too closely with one another. Shinji's uncle was killed by agents of the government for engaging in anti-government activities, and Chisato's older brother, while suspected and subsequently cleared of the same, committed suicide. Because of these family ties, Shinji and Chisato speculate that the authorities may accuse them of conspiring against the government if they spend too much time together, and so they keep apart while maintaining strong places in their hearts for each other.
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These 2 also died so early. I mean they probably had one of the best deaths since they went out on their own terms.
But i wonder if he would have been ready to fight and defend her. I assume he would have.
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>>286367553
There is something truly laughable about this ugly af gigamanlet thinking he is superior to anyone.
The only reason he even exists is because his subhuman father had enough money to breed with a gold digger. He is more dysgenic than everyone else in his class. Except the rat who betrayed mimura maybe.
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I've read this manga over 10 times and this is the first time i've noticed that the 2 girls blushing are the ones who said they loved Shuuya and got shot by Kiriyama.
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>>286367868
Actually that's how a lot of people think.
If you look at street fights where an untrained person gets clapped or thrown on the ground by someone who is experienced or just has better reflexes, most people think it was just a fluke and come back for more.
This guy would never be able to accept that Sugi is superior to him.
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If you can you 100% should. I forgot how much they changed Kiriyama's characterization even this early on. They added this weird shit about his gang bringing him a girl and him flipping a coin to decide if he should rape her or not, and even added a little line about "THERE ARE MORE ATTRACTIVE GIRLS THAN HER" and how THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME TURNED OVER or something.
Obviously he doesn't give a shit about that and doesn't say anything like that, and his little high school gang wasn't offering him a woman to rape, the girl just happened to be there when they showedup. Kiriyama just has no strong feelings about the game and decides to flip a coin to see if he should try to win or try to overturn the system.
Pic related's another good comparison of the character Giffen made versus the actual character. In the English version he's just doing this "SO MOIST...HUMANS ARE JUST BLOOD" babby's first nihilist villain stuff, but in the Japanese version he's just mimicking the sound his gun made because he's just curious about it. He's just a weird emotionless supregenius trying to understand everything, not some crazy guy who loves killing people.
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>The actual narration here is just like "Oda had no way of knowing this, but one day in the Kiriyama family's garden (which was much nicer than Oda's family's), Kazuo played the violin once and was much better at it. But after playing it once, he got bored and never touched it again. By Oda's own reasoning, the one to win should be Kazuo."
I own the french translation and it's pretty much word for word what you just said.
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Chisato was really cute.
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This was so fucking based. She got hit by so many bullets and got shot in the face which made one of eye go weird, yet she still landed a beautiful headshot.
And she was the only one who even thought of accusing the schizo girl.
This girl was gf material.
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Yukio hesitated too much. The uzi girl was beyond saving, she should shot to kill.
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>>286384223
I think the way he draws action, guns, movement, background (if that's not his assistants) is top notch. The art of the manga also improved over the course of it. It's very noticeable when you compare the first volume or so.
I've read his other manga Black Joke and it was ... quite special. BR is definitely his best work, though you can see that the most insane action moments of BR are quite restrained compared to the stuff in Black Joke, you can tell he really wanted to go further but had to keep it somewhat grounded because of the setting.
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No bullshit about any televised game, no weird catchphrases etc
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Same thing in my manga, he just goes ratatata.
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>>286384580
I found it more disturbing than Battle Royale somehow. It's braindead, nonsensical action and you aren't meant to take it too seriously, but somehow it really disturbed me.
Like that crooked cop whose spine got pulled out and his skull was caved in his torso.
The weird little arc about the "monster" hunting a bunch of people.
The naked giants on the island thing.
The world of Black Joke is just so bizarre and depraved. And it was almost a hentai at times, Battle Royale pales in comparison when it comes to this angle.
I didnt hate it but i didnt enjoy. Reading it felt like watching gore or some kind of liveleak industrial accident. You don't wanna see it but you can't help but watch it.
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>>286372020
I prefer this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLhodpCK6Dc
(I only know about this song from Kubo Tite saying this is Kenpachis theme song)
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>I assume that was a mistranslation
Just another total fabrication.
>We can only kill each other.
>Until a single winner is decided...
>...we can only kill each other!
He tried to punch it up but again the "basic math" thing just makes her sound like a sociopath instead of a desperate high school girl trying to justify what she's about to do to herself. No idea why he decided to make up something like that especially when he should've already known it was wrong at this point in the story.
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>>286385933
I don't think she was trying to shoot her or fight her, but if she wasn't going to do that she shouldn't have picked up the gun.
The sad thing is she could have shot her, Uzi girl hadn't even noticed at first.
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>>286386384
I get what he means and I understand what's annoying about it, what Giffen did just makes me almost actually mad so it's hard to resist screeching about it. I'm going to stop posting unprompted and I'll definitely just shut up during actual dumps. But if anyone's suspicious about a page or something just ask.
From now on I'll also always reply to my first post so if people want to ignore me they can just hide my first post and it'll hide all of them. I don't want to shit up a storytime for people who aren't interested.
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>>286386489
Nah, i agree with >>286386384
the horrible translation needs to be called out.
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>>286384746
>Like that crooked cop whose spine got pulled out
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>>286388511
Apparently it's just what they asked him to do. I don't know anything about the guy but his quote on the wiki makes him sound like kind of a dick.
>'"It's a good story that Takami is telling", Giffen said. "What I do is go in and make bad scenes that much worse. I loved the movie of Battle Royale, and also love the manga. I just wanted to do it right. I wanted to do justice to it, and I knew I couldn't get away with doing a straight translation, because it would be horrifyingly bad."'
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>>286386195
I'm rolling with it but as >>286387104
said, it needs to be brought to attention. But not to the point where it overwhelms the experience. Side by side comparisons are great, but what can you do about translations nearly 20 years old? I'm just glad there are anons who can come here and present the true characterization lost in translation.
If anything, I'll wait for the rips of the yen press translations and see how those fair.
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