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>make the most stereotypical lesbian-looking yuri series that just screams "this isn't for guys!"
>it becomes the most popular yuri series of all time easily beating every fanservice yuri for men
How can other other titles even compete at this point?
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>>286396041
>wonder how an anime would be able to get the rights to play all those alt-rock songs
>Wondance anime comes out where they paid to show the entire Scatman music video, then the whole show is nightmare fuel animation
>realize that any adaptation of TGIWIWAGAA is going to have to skip on playing literally any song by a western artist
>tfw
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>>286396041
hate when you guys pull this stuff. generally men like watching/reading & making waifu manga/anime, not genuine romance the way women do (it's also lame when male anime fans go WHY DO YOU HATE ROMANCE and they mean waifu anime) - this is why gay "romance manga" by men barely exists and women dominate male/male romance. which brings me to
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"yuri for actual lesbians is when no audience-appeal eroticism because lesbians are famously not sexually attracted to women" no dummy it's mainstream because it's safe for straight girls to read as a romance manga with a quirk (and, in too many cases, chest-beat over how they're supporting gay people or whatever). almost as dumb as saying TsukuTabe is "yuri for actual lesbians".
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>Draw a good looking (at the time) series that was strongly helped by twitter algorithm and then use actual understanding of social media to make it popular with younger audience regadless of gender
>Western trannoids start making posts on 4chan how the work is not for men and how they are women if they enjoy it
Let's get this out of way, you are never going to be a woman, no matter what you enjoy, you are never going to be accepted, you parents will always think of you as a freak and in a decade people will look at you abominations the same way we did, this is what this thread is about, it's not about Green manga, it's not about yuri, it's about you trying to push an agenda you made up in your head.
You have several similar works in shoujo magazines and they all flop very hard, because again, they were not favored by the twitter algorithm promoting it to zoomers, not to say the author wasn't putting a lot of effort when it started because she definitely was, here you can see how the series used to look and you can see how it didn't even look that different from your usual moe manga.
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>>286396041
It's not about being "lesbian looking". Green Manga's popularity stems from the fact that it has a lot of qualities that appeal to non-hardcore yuri audiences and the good fortune to be shown to those interested audiences.
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>>286397660
Yeah, because they are trying to push a narrative, not trying to make sense, people, men, women, gays, lesbians, whatever, they are all very simple to understand, they want to read what is trending, everyone watched Yuru Yuri back then and everyone will watch Green anime too and I can already see the tranny seething when the girls are actually draw in a cute way, because guess what merchandise.
This series has a very straightforward gimmick and setting, it also used to have a very good artwork when the author actually had time to draw, it's not surprising it managed to catch the more mainstream audience, people make a lot of headcanons about this series and about it's audience, when there is no mystery at all.
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>>286396041
>Greenshit Hibikek
>Popular
>Also a thread died for this
Lol lmao fuck off
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>>286397901
I don't know but regardless of how accurately it reflects reality, everyone has some stereotype about what lesbians/gay men/trannies act like. In the end, OP believes that dykes couples consist of more masculine counter-cultural types.
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It's newfag troon manga and it's popular with the social media generation:
- it's safe
- quirky (in the most bland modern way
- LGBT but for straight teen/20s girls
- more like 2.5D rather than real otaku 2D
- 4 pages so their attention span can cope
- social media hype
- actually just meandering SoL
- totally Alt music, bro
Basically it's manga for mainstream normalfags now that anime is mainstream, it doesn't feel by or for anime & manga otaku.
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>>286396041
ITT: Fucking retards who think this """""""""""""""""""""yuri"""""""""""""""""""""" shit is popular
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>>286397970
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top 10 manga seller by volume in Kadokawa
https://www.mangacodex.com/2024%20Japanese%20New%20Volumes%20Releases% 20Analysis.pdf
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>>286398730
Also knocks it out of the park in the yuri genre by a wide margin.
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>>286399042
It doesn't really matter if it does, you are missing the point, 80k is not much at all when you consider some titles will pull more than a million, when you put things in the larger market scale a title doing 30k is on the same tier as a title doing 80k. Which is also not surprising since green manga has an actual marketing budget, something the YH titles barely have and this also likely reflects in how front loaded the sales are and you can even see this in the chart, the discrepancy between Sasakoi 9 and 10 is likely the fact they had different number of days reported due to being released in different days of the week.
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>>286398730
Nice copium, faggot
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>>286396041
>>it becomes the most popular yuri series of all time easily beating every fanservice yuri for men
Source? I have never heard a single good comment of it from Yurifags, they hate it even more than Citrus+
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>>286396325
So this is what the most popular "yuri" manga is all about, huh? Men are now considered women and vice versa. Gender eradication is real
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>>286399310
It's sold over 1.5m copies in 4 volumes without an anime being released. But the reason yurifags here don't like it is because it's not the kind of yuri that they like.
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Because he's their friend and there's nothing romantic going on between them.
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>>286399553
>Because he's their friend and there's nothing romantic going on between them.
Fuck off, faggot. Why would a yurikino ever need a bullshit male in a lesbian couple's relationship? Stop bumping your yuribait thread aleady
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>>286399553
>Because he's their friend and there's nothing romantic going on between them.
Then why is he sleeping between the lesbians? Anyone who doesn't know this greenshit would mistake it for a FFM or het
>>286399608
>And what's wrong with men in yuri as long as they don't get together with the girls? All girls have fathers.
Why the fuck would you want to see men in yuri? Are you a self-insert faggot or a literal faggot or something?
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>>286399553
You sound like that autistic retard who shits up any Chisato/Takina posts/threads with "Majiwives". Fitting that you like this garbage that shares the same color as Majima's hair
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>>286399641
>then why is he sleeping between the lesbians
Because they're in the backseat of a car together.
>Anyone who doesn't know this greenshit would mistake it for a FFM or het
Most people don't assume that sleeping in a car means they're dating. They would be wrong either way
>why the fuck would you want to see men in yuri?
I don't have any strong feelings about whether they should/shouldn't. But I don't freak out about it like you.
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Quit being a bitch, OP
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>A yuri is about girls loving girls
>This fucking green retard loves seeing men getting in the way of the lesbians' relationship
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>>286399818
>it doesn't have the yuri as we and anyone who has a brain wants
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>>286399742
>FUCK THE ARROW CAPTCHA
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This happened though>>286399350
If this is yuri then why did she draw that? It's like this shit was never going to be yuri to begin with
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>>286399553
Stop with the narratives retard, you are as bad as the guy you are quoting, almost everyone is neutral about it, they understand it's baby first yuri but there is nothing special for people who have been following yuri for a while. Also it sold 1.5 worldwide, 200k of those just in Brazil.
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>>286396041
>Hibike Euphonium
>:|
>Hibike Euphonium, green
>:O
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This dumb fucking retard....
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Will they ever show them having sex, or will this be only hinted at?
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>>286400034
If any of you actually read it you will know there isn't much to talk about it, it's a very simple, one gimmick work, the most people talked about it was early on when the setup was fresh but also unclear how it would develop or if it would develop into actual yuri at all, since we had no idea how they would react with the reveal. Once they did the whole story was too telegraphed for anyone to have what to talk about and the deterioration of the artwork also demoralized people to post it.
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OPfaggot having a melty that nobody gives a rat's ass about his """""yuri""""" manga
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>>286400142
This says a lot about the work and not about the people like you want to, the series you are talking about has enough introspective and conflict people are engaged into having those discussions, even if they are deep down the same discussions over and over, green manga is a twitter series where most chapters are 4 pages and you are surprised it doesn't get the same level of discussions as a light novel where every chapter details every single move they do and why.
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>>286400217
You could easily have those discussions about green manga if you want. What limits people here is their interest, not the content itself. Shallow stuff can be droned on about and deep stuff can be ignored.
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>>286400263
You need to add fuel to the fire and Green manga doesn't, it's structured like a twitter manga for people to enjoy in a short spam, which makes me wonder if they are going to create an unified original narrative so the anime episodes will seamless group those chapters together and like I also said, people stopped posting the artwork because it doesn't look good anymore.
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The funny thing about Green Yuri is that despite being so successful it hasn't started any observables trends within Yuri itself. Watanare becomes successful and suddenly the door for yuri light novels are wide open. What has Green Yuri inspired in comparison? You'd think more tumblr art would get popular after this but nope. Green Yuri's fandom exists in isolation to the actual Yuri fandom, so we're safe on that front.
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>>286400387
The issue is that there isn't really anything to replicate other than picking more authors with unique artstyles and even that is arguably as the author's art which actually went viral was much closer to your typical seinen yuri series, yuri series with tomboyish characters are nothing new neither this series does anything different than most yuri series, teases you for 2/3 volumes with will they or not and then the characters confess and get together.
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>>286399266
>80k is not much at all when you consider some titles will pull more than a million
This would be in the top ~7% if we were to compare this to shueisha, the most successful publisher. It's no million, but impressive when you consider the marketing jump has.
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>>286400432
Only because the industry is structured to release as much trash as possible just in case they can find a hit and this also includes Shueshia, they axe most of shonen jump every year because even with the magazine visibility some titles won't even sell 50k (and they still keep around some low selling titles just to balance the magazine's content).
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>>286400430
Agreed. With the industry desperate for international hits it is very likely that this gets a heavily shilled adaptation from a big studio. But even if it gets Yuri on Ice tier big whether it actually influences trends within yuri is another question.
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I'm not sure what trends you are expecting it to set? You know that yuri anime Sasakoi that had a budget bigger than the last season of the super hit One Punch Man? The protagonist is a tomboy who plays guitar and they were teased together until they got together after a few volumes.
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>>286400605
Will the amount of meltdowns the anime causes beat watanare?
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>>286400521
>they axe most of shonen jump every year because even with the magazine visibility some titles won't even sell 50k
Which makes it an impressive feat for something released in Kadokawa to be this successful. They're not as refined as jump to maximize sales, and yet they still get good sales on this particular work even early on.
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>>286399891
I know it's most likely not, but it's funnier to imagine that posts like this are a genuine case of retardation. Anon actually sees a granny sit adjacent to some guy in real life and is genuinely convinced they must be fucking.
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>>286400879
It depends how you see it, most new works don't go viral on twitter and most new works don't have the marketing budget green got even on shonen jump, but if Green was pulling numbers like this on SJ after volume 4 it would get axed.
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>>286396041
Stop bumping your bullshit yuribait thread, asshole
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>>286396041
I have neither standards and nor principles. Anything that furthers my agenda (yuri) I will welcome with open arms.
I read twenty chapters of this manga and it was incredibly mid. I shall defend it until my dying breath.
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>>286405918
>The funny thing about Green Yuri is that despite being so successful it hasn't started any observables trends within Yuri itself.
>Watanare becomes successful and suddenly the door for yuri light novels are wide open.
>What has Green Yuri inspired in comparison?
Sure, I'm forcing a comparison.
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>>286405933
Yes, if you see the actual chain didn't even bother with the comparison and was just talking about Watanare and the light novel market, I don't think you can even make an argument for green manga, it's a popular series with great sales, but not even Kadokawa who is the publisher is trying to replicate it, because honestly twitter isn't their business, if anything they would rather not go there as if twitter did catch on then authors would just cut the middle men which is the publisher.
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>>286406440
Not a single woman calls herself "himejoshi", the whole reason the word never picked on in japan is because women have no reason to calls themselves "female fans of something", unlike Fujoshi which was originally just a joke meant to describe the type of women who would be into yaoi as disgusting women.
So my point is that those people you are talking about will twist things in ways they clearly are not meant to be, just like the retarded sub humans who calls this work crossdressing when the main character has never crossdressed.
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>>286396041
Did a thread really have to be removed for this cancerous pile of trash?
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>>286407302
Yumejoshi are not female fans of anything, it's literally describing the act of women shipping themselves with whatever character they want, either by self inserting or using an original character (common in fanfics).
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>>286408640
The point is not whether they exist or not, it's if makes sense for them to make a distinction of themselves by gender, in the case of yumejoshis it describe what is the requirement for self inserting in this case, which is to be female. Female yuri fans don't need to call themselves female yuri fans, just yuri fans.
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>>286399641
>Why the fuck would you want to see men in yuri? Are you a self-insert faggot or a literal faggot or something?
I just want to read a good story, anon. It's really difficult to suspend my disbelief for yuri stories where men are either non-existent or all totally evil, and literally every single girl in the series is a fucking lesbian.
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>red yuri
Love Bullet? It's still very short thus far and feels like the kind of story that will build up gradually over time. Still, I'd at least say the backstory of the main character was done very well.
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>>286412163
>all buzzwords
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>>286399553
I'll be honest, I don't care about some arbitrary genre label. I read it for the plot. I read if the plot's good whether it's a good ffm threesome story or something else story.
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>>286413309
there's lots of men in yuri. The most popular yuri anime Citrus (at least according to MAL members) starts with one of the girls being kissed by a man. It's CGDCT that has no men. I saw a nip on 5ch complain that he prefers kirara over yuri-hime because there are too many men in yuri-hime.
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>>286413309
It is a fraud genre, because there are almost zero actually good yuri series, that are good to read as stories and not just as lesbian fetish shit.
>but oniisama e.... and utena
One of those is bisexual.
Seriously, call this a bait post, but I've baited with it for years and haven't got a single bite that isn't recommending dogwater. Fucking Murcielago is the best I've gotten.
There are good manga with yuri elements in them. But there are almost zero good yuri manga.
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>>286418020
>the only examples he can name are from the 90s
Watanare alone was easily better than almost all romcoms and harems from the last ten years for actually depicting intimacy, relationship development, and fulfilling the harem promise.
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>>286418659
that's the best part. she could be a bit less timid if anything.
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We've Been Reincarnated, There's No Way I'm Giving You My Mana Again! ch6
https://mangadex.org/chapter/da6e1b5a-f8a1-439c-9276-c120c048e149
Green ch153
https://mangadex.org/chapter/0788e60a-7a74-48ae-b231-a127490700e0
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>>286422584
It talks a lot about mature themes and maybe this is why you have this perception, but you have bibliographical stories written by lesbian yuri authors and they are normal relationship problems, not who is cheating on who or why they are not horny enough to fuck, as I said above people, especially here on the west are too inclined to believe stories portraying shitty relationships are more relatable.
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>>286422812
There hasn't been any cheating yet! At least, physical. In what I've read. Maybe I'm crazy, but I assume differences in libido is a "normal relationship problem" for lesbians. Anyway, what kind of trouble do the girls in Green Yuri have?
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>>286422827
It's a normal relationship problem for any adult, Green manga is teenager drama meant to be relatable to a broader age range, so it won't touch in mature themes like this, most of the series is very easy to understand will they or won't they light drama.
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>>286396041
Stop bumping your thread, you fucking faggot. No one gives a shit about your puke-colored dykeshit
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I feel so sorry for the thread that had to die for this piece of crap
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Ajisai & Mai want a piece of Renako.
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>>286406603
green yuri is mainstream-friendly but not explicitly made for muh representation straight women like WataTabe is; I've actually seen green yuri fans get deeper into yuri, for one. plus Arai Sumiko can draw REALLY appealingly. this could be some semi-mainstream artsy early 2000s OVA with how the characters look.
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