>>286434038
Ultimately they're the only two people who can stand each other because they both have the same exact sort of trauma. Losing their parents, and being made to pilot mechs for an ungrateful humanity

>>286434038
She knows that he has the same issues as her, and these types of problems can make someone act erratically, especially when put into an extreme situation like EOE.
Her hand gesture at the end of the movie is a step forward into both accepting each other.

This is what women ultimately find hot

>>286434182
and they had to destroy the entire planet just for that

>>286434512
It was the illuminati that did that though, not them

>>286434038
Putting it that way, Asuka x Shinji seems like a very reasonable and realistic pairing.

do people just watch EoE half asleep or something? Instrumentality fucking happens, and it's not like the complicated feelings both of them have just popped out of the ether
at that age it literally just takes being together, but then there was also the stuff they do for each other in magma diver or the top LEL episode

>>286434038
She's a mutt.

She's 14.

>>286434038
Kaji rejected her basically so she had to settle with the weak shinji faggot

>>286434038
That shit never happened, you utter fucking retard

>>286434038
>goes through this, some borderline sexual assault and a murder attempt
Women love that shit.

>>286435235
It was real in their minds

>>286434038
>what the hell is wrong with Asuka
She waited 20 episodes for him to man up and take action. He finally did.

>>286434512
Why do people keep trying to pin this on Shinji?
Do you think Seele didn't have a method to trigger 3rd impact themselves even though it was their plan?

>>286436894
Weren't the SEELE goons initially trying to ventilate all of the pilots and only pivoted once unit 01 activated?

>>286437023
The goons are Japanese special forces and think they're doing counterterrorism, Seele only directly control the Evas they flew into the country.

>>286435001
some anons have never argued with a woman they unconciously have sexual tension with and it shows

>>286437616
>there are people in this website right now who have had women be attracted to them
what has happened to my home

>>286437658
i never said i had any success anon

>>286434038
>what the hell is wrong with Asuka
"I can fix him"

>>286434512
Worth it

>>286434038
War and puberty make crazy things happen. Shinji’s alright.

>>286434038
You are taking a short joke video made for fans too seriously.

>>286434581
>>286436894
Rei gave the choice to Shinji and he explicitly wanted to kill everyone.

>>286438263
Shinji ultimately rejected it though he gave people the chance to re-emerge from the LCL soup

>>286438348
Yeah, he changed his mind after he had already ended the world and all the consequences that comes with that. There isn't even any certainty that anyone but him and Asuka chooses to come back.

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>>286434038
>>goes through this, some borderline sexual assault and a murder attempt and still fantasizes about marrying the guy and having children with him
you just described femoids

>>286438381
He’ll atone by repopulating the world.

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>>286438561
>his genes are as submissive as him so the whole planet will be redheads

>>286434038
>>goes through this
You should actually watch something before you try to criticize it. Because she didn't go through that.

>>286434038
She’s a girl in love.

>>286438589
She mentally did.

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>>286438249
The short didn't really do anything but reaffirm things that everyone paying attention already knew though

Shinji’s got the Gendo gene, whatever women want, he’s got it.

>>286434038
She likes him.

>>286438600
No she didn't. That was literally all in Shinji's mind. Nothing to do with her.

>>286434512
The greatest love story ever told

>>286438656
Even if we are to assume that the girl in the kitchen wasn't actually Asuka, the real one did go through the fapping and the strangling at the beach

>>286438668
>fapping
She thinks sexual thoughts about Shinji too. Her only issue is he wasn’t a conscious participant.
>Strangling
She went through the same experience he did, she understands the fear of the AT field.
Asuka is an exceptional person, not a feminist with an ick checklist.

>>286438656
>No she didn't. That was literally all in Shinji's mind
It was a pre-instrumentality that contained Shinji, Misato, Rei and Asuka. (And maybe Ritsuko) There is a reason that Shinji could see Mistao fucking Kaji in the previous scene.

>>286434038
back then women didn't file for divorce every time the guy got reasonably upset. life was better.

Oh no the child soldier might have a more nuanced view on the horrors of PTSD than your average cosmopolitan subscriber, sue her.

>>286438720
>Asuka is an exceptional person, not a feminist with an ick checklist.
In one of the earliest episodes she stars in she pretends to be sexually assaulted over radio so Kaji will pay attention to her

>>286438720
You don't have to be a feminist to not want a person to kill you.

>>286438797
Character grow over the course of a story.

>>286438808
If you take is that Shinji is an irredeemable incel chud instead of Asuka’s fellow child soldier then you probably have some sort of brainworm.

>>286438831
Shinji doesn't have to be irredeemable. But he should probably at least show some remorse before Asuka herself forgives him.

Asuka likes, and loaths, Shinji because he is her mirror.

>>286438862
What is, breaking down and sobbing gutwrenching tears for 500 alex?

>>286438892
Self-pity. Something Shinji does the entire series.

>>286438917
Asuka didn’t see it that way, you’ve failed to interpret the series properly.

>>286438943
She called him disgusting. That's her last word on the matter.

>>286438957
>him
His actions* the short btfoed you headcanon.

>>286438995
lol

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>>286434038
>what the hell is wrong with Asuka
Hapas are crazy

>>286439001
Cope.

Is there a better "face of contempt" in anime history than the look she gives him after spilling coffee all over himself at the beginning of the Third Impact?

>>286439003
We know, Shinji.

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>>286439082
Not enough Asuka in this thread.

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A face a mother and several other women could love

>>286434038
Nothing, she's a normal woman

>>286434038
EoE is essentially the most fucked up and realistic romance story in anime. That's what makes it beautiful.

>>286439778
I mean, it's emotionally striking but... realistic?
I don't think most relationships start with both parties talking mad shit about each other and going for low blow accusations before throwing hands

>>286434038
>borderline sexual assault
bait

>>286439973
most relationships aren't taking place on the literal verge of the end of the world.

>>286435001
>do people just watch EoE half asleep or something?
the grim truth is that most people watch the vast majority of shows like this, eva just makes it easy to notice

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>>286434038
ecause she was desperate to be seen, like, in the series she was completely ignored by everyone, she's probably the most tragic character, and her only wish was for someone to genuinely connect with her, that's why 'the walls of jericho' and all that. She idealized Shinji and Kaji way too much, like seriously, we see it throughout the whole series, she really loved him. The thing is, Shinji was 14, he was a fucking idiot, took everything literally, and on top of that he was kind of an incel. What you saw in the short was the idealization she had of Shinji, she expected him to be that man, but she rejected that idealization to accept the pathetic real-life Shinji, who even though he choked her and all that, it's a huge step forward, because she always saw herself as a victim, now she was the perpetrator and from there she could grow. The caress was an act of love

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>>286440467
I'd call it a gesture of understanding, not quite love
Love requires mutual trust, and for all Shinji and Asuka have been through, they barely know each other
They've had like, what, one meaningful conversation? And Asuka cut that one short
The rest is just shared trauma, prolonged cohabitation, physical attraction and suspension bridge effect

>>286441315
I don't think the series has that same understanding of love.

>>286434038
Women do be like that

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>>286434038
evil.

>>286440467
She had access to male attention, but the men who she became interested in were preferred because unconsciously she knew there were obstacles in the way that would prevent her from actually achieving something that would require her to be vulnerable. Kaji was the ultimate “no way fag” due to age, so she could act out her fantasy at a distance knowing deep down it could never ever cross the line. Shinji became a target because she saw herself in him (wow this guy is worse than me!) and that’s what initiated the infatuation.
Over time her childish close but not too close games turned into real feelings. Shinji is canonically cute and they had to share living quarters and interact often. Unlike Kaji he did not look at her as a “no way fag” but a mysterious other, so the will they won’t they is much closer to home. He saved her life and noticed her as a human (in his own autistic way) without crumbling to her charm in a way that would rush intimacy she wasn’t ready for.
By the end of the film she had grown to such an extent that she could accept her feelings for him and be vulnerable for just enough to cross the line and try. Her kiss was bait to force him into the first move but his stonewalling embarrassed her and frustrated her further. Her final act in One More Final was a second attempt, a call for him to understand, and he finally makes the transformation required to move forward (she is not the mysterious other, or a monster, she is like me, with similar feelings and needs, and she sees herself in me, and I now see myself in her).
Their mutual interest in each other is predicated upon shared experience, and two one sided infatuations building up in isolation that suddenly became clear in the final hour.

>>286434038
they both want the same thing (to be loved) but aren't getting it from the people around them. asuka sees shinji as someone she can control (the whole i'll watch you jerk off) so she can use him to get this, but this is a recipe for disaster, see instrumentality

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>>286441315
they barely know each other? They literally saw everything in the LCL soup, their past, their thoughts, everything. The whole point of rejecting instrumentality is self-love (see the original show's ending, where they show instrumentality from Shinji's perspective). If you can love yourself, you can love others, and that's why both of them decide to go back to Earth. Also, considering the broken grave marker, the moon cycles, and Misato's rusted cross at the end of EoE, I'm pretty sure Asuka didn't just appear next to Shinji out of nowhere. She probably showed up somewhere far away, maybe where she died, and spent time looking for him. When she found him, she laid down next to him, and then Shinji woke up and choked her thinking she was a hallucination. That caress is an act of love and recognition, because she knows that in that exact moment, what Shinji needs is genuine affection, something he never had in his life. And she gives it to him, fighting against her own ego and breaking the Walls of Jericho. She acknowledges that she cares about him, that she loves him, that she needs him, even though he saw her as an object, jerked off to her many times (see the 'side dish' line), and was pathetic and weak (he let her die out of cowardice and emotional shock, didn't make it in time), and all that other stuff. But the caress also means recognizing that Shinji went into a destructive state after seeing her Eva destroyed, that he took everything literally, that he didn't know how to approach people, that he's also 14, and that she never let him take a step forward, among everything else. The point I was making to OP is the same: she was desperate for connection, no one ever saw her as a person. That's why she accepts Shinji and idealizes him despite everything he did to her

geh. this thread again

>If there is hope for Baka Shinji, there is hope for me

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>>286434038
It’s just like one of my Brazilian animes

>>286441485
She sees the true Shinji underneath, becoming the very thing that she needs herself.

Love isn’t a logical process, least of all a woman’s.

>>286434182
the movie begins with shinji over asuka and ends with shinji over asuka. in both scenes what shinji does with his hands is important, anno seems to have a hand fetish, but in the beginning shinji uses his hands in an isolating literally masturbatory way that fills him with shame, and in the end he uses them in an aggressive way to hurt asuka. it's only when she gently caresses his cheeks with her hand that he finally stops and breaks down.

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>>286441456
Yes, I agree with everything, anon. In fact, you did understand Evangelion. The problem is that 90% of the community that watched this anime is retarded and didn't even watch EoE

>>286441407
Fallible human*

>>286441315
a caress is love, she stopped idealizing him and broke down her defenses.

Wanting a normal human romantic relationship with marriage and motherhood is not ‘idealization’ btw.

>>286441456
>she is like me, with similar feelings and needs
feels like people kinda gloss over this even though its one of the important points in the tv ending
shinji has to be told something like 'You're not the only one who's hurting'

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>>286441485
The way we see instrumentality isn't exactly an easily digestible dossier of other people, it's more like a cacophony of intrusive thoughts shouting over each other, until the noise cancels itself out and only silence remains
Experiences flash across your mind's eye faster than you can comprehend them, memories, wishes and desires start bleeding into each other and into other people's
The TV ending also complicates things further, how exactly are you meant to be able to tell other people's consciousness from the versions of them that live in your own mind? How is a single human mind supposed to be able to comprehend the minds of every other human being on earth? The answer is that you can't, not as an individual
The way I see it, SEELE's instrumentality was flawed and doomed to fail from the start because it doesn't bring true understanding, it just forces dissent to disappear
In a way, I feel like this reading makes the epilogue much more meaningful
Instead of instrumentality being a silver bullet for comprehension and understanding it just shows Shinji and Asuka the worst sides of each other,—Shinji as the selfish coward begging for affection, and Asuka as the cold, uncaring girl who'd let him die before giving it to him—and then leaving them with the question of whether they're willing to put up with that or not

>>286441805
The concept of wanting "normal" is inherently close to idealization, and is generally a dangerous thought process. In a way it's worse, because there's this inherent "my fantasy isn't aiming that high" which makes it feel like a more reasonable thing to be focused on a distant fantasy instead of on the immediate actions that can improve your life.

>>286442051
What’s dangerous is chasing fantasy instead of participating in reality for the real thing.

I mean I get people being apprehensive about the reading of the short as Asuka's instrumentality experience, but the shit I've seen where people are pretending like it literally doesn't matter at all and is just some joke animation to ignore smells like absolute cope

>>286442584
It doesn’t matter if it’s in-universe canon.

>>286443068
doesnt it?
why not

>>286443080
How Anno portrays Soryu and her closure over EoE in this meta epilogue still conveys everything you need to approach EoE and her character with hope/closure whether or not she literally experienced this.
If Anno believes that Soryu is capable of moving forward and thriving there, then she has always had the capacity to do so.

>>286442584
that's because there are a lot of insane people who are way too invested in their personal eva headcanons

>>286442584
>>286443068
>>286443146
>>286443192
In fact, the best thing about the short is the meta aspect: since Rebuilds don't function whatsoever without metanarrative as a crutch then accepting meta as a lens to begin with means also accepting the poison pill in Shikinami explicitly stating different continuities/universes, which also torpedoes single looping continuity theorists and the retards saying RoE was end of eveything. And choosing to cope about it as non-canon or completely inconsequential is to spite the very meta Rebuilds stand on. Of course, taking Shikinami at her word means the Rebuilds and Anno are making it explicit you can just treat the films as something completely separate from main continuity, just like the manga or GoS or ISRP. Meanwhile EoTV+EoE enjoyers can safely choose whether ep 27 happens in-text or not, as it's really just stating the obvious and could plausibly be something she sees. Anno is just forcing people to get it now I guess.
It's the perfect crime. As expected of the master, Anno. It doesn't make up for 15 years of his masturbatory BS but it does reinforce everything we already knew and shuts down bad-faith shitposters

Why did she say "how disgusting" if she liked him? Came off to me like she knows she is now trapped with this "lesser Adam" and she is a "lesser Eve" herself. She knows she's going to be strangled to death unless she finds a way to get this fucker off of her, so she touches his face. She doesn't want to die, it didn't seem anything like love. Then she outright states "how disgusting", because Shinji, the world, and the entire situation is horrifically fucked up.

>>286443499
>Then she outright states "how disgusting", because Shinji, the world, and the entire situation is horrifically fucked up.
In my opinion it's much more broad than Shinji specifically and their current situation. People are gross, to actually know everything someone thinks and feels would inevitably make you uncomfortable no matter who they are, and yet that doesn't outweigh the need for connection. Recognizing both sides of that reality is a big development for her.

>>286443499
Her final line is the mystery of that ending, and I believe it was intended to make you wonder. Anno did actually clarify in this new short that her feelings of disgusting are a very broad comment, on the situation and Shinji’s actions. Yet, the comment has not erased her inner feelings about Shinji as a person, nor does it negate her outstretched hand and their moment of connection.

>>286439003
That's cute, but she's already taken by someone else

>>286443622
like everything anons said, the ending of EoE isn't really bleak at all
Recounting my thoughts feels like just copypasting shit over and over, so heres one of the best vids I've seen interpreting Asuka and Shinji's relationship as well as the subtext in One More Final, which I take to be the mainstream opinion in nipland. (just asuka and shinji's relationship and one more final though, since the part where he headcanons Asuka surviving getting pincushioned, avoiding Instrumentality, and surviving in the entry plug is abjectly retarded, but everything in the video would still be consistent with Asuka returning from Tang) Turn on eng subtitles if you don't know japanese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts-wiyO3PPs

>>286443499
you lost

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I’ve completed my writeup of my thoughts on the new short. My autism keeps trying to tweak it but I think I got it to where I want it to be.
https://rentry.co/sk3qs6fr

>>286441456
I'm not quite sure you hit the nail when it comes to Kaji.
Bagging Kaji would have one way of proving that she was an adult, something she has a complex about. He's handsome, charming, intelligent etc, a lot of women's dream guy. So that would put her ahead of all the women that couldn't get him.
Not that I think she was in love with him, though she does care about him but it was more a means to an end.

>>286444796
Her relation to Kaji is more than just “the Shinji before Shinji” for sure. You are correct that her interest in him is also about growing up before she’s ready, there are multiple angles to discuss, but I was more focusing on her relation to Shinji in that post. I do believe deep down she never thought her and Kaji were really going anywhere. Had he called her bluff, I don’t think she’d be happy with that.

>>286443543
That's at least something to think about.
>>286443932
This isn't.

>>286444506
Nice read anon

It will never stop being funny the lengths retards go to to justify why it's okay for Asuka to be a bitch just because she makes them pop a boner.

>>286445106
>This child soldier acts like a tsundere instead of a deredere she must be condemned

>>286442145
That might have been true in the 90s. That is to say, 3 decades ago.

>>286445117
There's a difference between condemnation and justification, you absolute moron.

>>286444506
Great read, but on the canon point you begin with, what do you think about the people saying One More Finall happens after the short? And that Asuka's bringing up of choking refers to the instrumentality kitchen scene?

>>286445148
There’s a difference between empathy for a nuanced and tragic character and having a boner, you absolute moron.

>>286445218
the difference is huge too
>i have so much empathy for asuka i can't stop posting about it all these years later
cringe
>asuka makes me so erect i can't stop posting about it all these years later
based

>>286445179
I don’t believe the canonicity question really matters much. It’s not compelling to me, I think this doesn’t take place in universe, and the value it provides is on a meta level, not a narrative level. I’m not against it really, but I would presume that Soryu’s true instrumentality experience in EoE would necessarily be harsher and a more thorough examination of her neuroses.
I especially believe trying to fit this before One More Final is even more of a stretch, stressing the term “ended up with Shinji” even harder than it already is, to the point where I believe it collapses.
But, unless I’m missing something I don’t think that reading is explicitly impossible, nor does it compromise what I believe to be the intention of the short. So, whatever makes sense to you.

>>286445273
no I don't necessarily think it has to be "in-universe canon" either, just that it could be if you really wanted it to since it doesn't matter much in the end.
this is my post >>286443495
I'm just more harsh on the Rebuilds since I just think they're awful movies in the textual sense (bad animation, dialogue, characterization, etc.)

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>>286441456
I'm not sure about her propositioning Kaji. She looked earnest about it but could face him easily after he refused, she doesn't hide or change her opinion about him to save her pride, so maybe she did expect that result. But also maybe that scene would have continued like the manga and Asuka is just so much less mature that he can deflect her without her knowing.

>>286445302
I have complicated feelings about Rebuild. I do think it’s a lesser continuity, but I do find some value in them. I tried to frame my write up more from how the short (and by extension Anno) presents them rather than how I personally feel about them. I don’t get the indication that Anno has regrets over them or has cast them aside or anything, so I wanted to reflect that feeling in my interpretation.

>>286441407
the Chad in him awakened.

>>286438583
kekked

>>286442584
I just think the curtains are blue and Eva fans read too much into things like usual. The short was just silly fun, and any subtext was clear and conclusive

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>>286444924
I think the most harmful thing Kaji does is never actually turning Asuka down properly
He just goes "when you're older", unconsciously feeding her complex ad infinitum

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>>286445451
I would have been doing that a year ago, but eva30 has honestly been a godsend in restoring dialogue quality by silencing the most annoying voices in the discussion or completely ruining their credibility

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Any of you have ever dated a ginger girl?

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>>286445444
It’s silly fun that is also meaningful just like Evangelion

>>286443499
>how disgusting
Translating the phrase "kimochi warui" this way has done so much damage to the English speaking fandom over the years.
Do some digging into the various ways this phrase can be interpreted and compare it to the other times Asuka has said it in the series.

>>286445311
to be honest, i think this is one of those added director's cut scenes that's kind of a questionable inclusion. it's a good scene, heavy and it fits the themes, but like you said it being a flashback that seemingly doesn't really affect their relationship at all is clumsy in a way the rest of the series usually isn't. the manga making it something that she does later, when he's being distant and she's more desperate fits better from that perspective.

though as a scene in a vacuum i think its a good showing of all the kind of conflicting urges and images floating around the idea of kaji for her

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>>286445590
The director's cut scenes have the problem of being added after the fact
For example, the one where Kaworu is revealed to be Adam
This was done because Anno and co. wanted Kaworu to be more plot relevant than just a random angel, but it accidentally introduced a huge continuity error where Kaworu is told about the whereabouts of Adam's body then seemingly forgets and looks elsewhere
The addition slots neatly into EoE but not into NGE

>>286445590
>later
I forgot that time in Kaji's office. I'm still thinking about on Over the Rainbow, when he distracted Asuka with palm-reading and she forgot what she was talking about.

>>286445590
It’s a scene I couldn’t do without personally.

>>286445636
that one is baffling since it's a completely unforced error, that scene still functions exactly the same if you cut out that single offhand line of some seele guy saying oh btw its in his hand. can't believe no one caught it

>>286445636
>>286445856
Guess I needed an excuse to make my next rewatch the on-air versions anyway. Surprised that wasn’t fixed in a later release!

>>286445885
go all the way and watch the broadcast versions, it's fun to see the little differences

>>286445590
>>286445636
the scenes work better in Death^2

>>286445905
Yeah that’s what I meant to say, before the dvd touch ups.

>>286445463
Can’t lose any aura, even if it’s a little negligent.

>>286443619
Yes, me.

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>All organic life everywhere, right down to the smallest microbe, was literally evaporated overnight thanks to a globe-spanning Anti-AT Field (that's what it does, that's how it works, it was explained in Episode 12)
>The remains of the would-be godhead have fallen to earth, displacing god knows how much water and other matter with such force that the face of the earth and its climate have been irrevocably changed for the worse, and now those Cyclopean mountains of sinister non-Euclidean alien meat are beginning to ROT (just try slicing off a shank of sour GNR meat without getting impaled by an angle that wasn't there five seconds ago)
>After many days (possibly even weeks or months judging by the rusty nail holding up Misato's crucifix) have passed, only two people have returned from Instrumentality
>Both of them have surely been rendered partially insane from their traumatic experiences before, during and after Instrumentality (aside from the mind-bending horrors of the ritual itself, one of them was also butchered and eaten alive while fully conscious)
>The only two people who came back after god knows how long also remember everything that was shared during Instrumentality, including memories of one being physically and sexually assaulted by the other)

Anno's central theme of rejecting a soothing but delusional fantasy in favor of facing a harsh and potentially painful reality head-on armed with nothing but the dim hope of potentially crafting a better future for yourself (how? somehow, that's how) is slightly undermined by the fact that the reality he presents to us is a literal worst-case nightmare scenario devoid of any hope or promise of positive change whatsoever. Anything, even the deepest, most depraved delusion would be preferable to the bleak, unsalvageable hellscape these two have inherited. It's almost funny, like it's some kind of sick, twisted final joke played on humanity by Yui, cackling away like a witch as she floats off to regions unknown

>>286446170
The indomitable human spirit laughs in the face of reality’s struggles. They have everything they need to survive, grow and eventually thrive.

>>286446170
>All organic life everywhere, right down to the smallest microbe
next time watch the movie instead of having it explained to you by video essays and infographics

>>286446170
>All organic life everywhere, right down to the smallest microbe, was literally evaporated overnight
>sinister non-Euclidean alien meat are beginning to ROT
Incompatible. Clearly GNR reintroduced a microbiome.
>only two people have returned from Instrumentality
That we see in one area on Earth.
>including memories of one being physically and sexually assaulted by the other
They also love each other.

>>286446170
Forests were still intact.

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>>286446170
Wouldn’t even be close to Earth’s worst extinction events.

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Even if Rei's going out a billion times to pop individual people with localized anti-AT, that ring could be as impactful on ecology as a meteorite. Whatever mass souls have, it's at least cooling if it's visible and blocking light.

>>286435001
>do people just watch EoE half asleep or something?
Yeah, they do.
If you actually paid attention to the series then you probably remember that Shinji's biggest fault for Asuka was his timid and boring character. It literally infuriated her.

quick, without looking it up, is anyone here able to remember Fuyutsuki's first name?

>>286446343
Those were grave markers. For his dead friends. Who were dead and almost certainly never coming back.

>>286446861
kozo

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>>286446170
you can literally see trees in the movie itself retard. Picrel and elsewhere in the movie.
I will never understand you retards that keep peddling this dumb BS about Anno making his works into fuck yous or his supposed hating otakus or whatever, not only does the film literally say people can go back (and why the fuck wouldn't they? are you really gonna suggest famously stable and calm teenagers Asuka and Shinji are the ONLY motherfuckers that would have wanted to come back?), not only does Yui literallu lay out the moral out in plain text about anywhere being paradise if one has the will to live, Anno himself has been quoted saying that EoE was a film about taking a positive view of the presence of others.
>Monthly Shonen Ace extra edition "Eva Ace" (September 2004 issue) p.162
>Ootsuki: What kind of story is EoE honestly about?
>Anno: 「最終的には、いいじゃん、他人がいても、とうことですね。」
or
>Anno: "Ultimately, it is about the fact that it is okay to be with others."

I swear, bad-end bad-faith faggots are just the same sort of retard that are criminally insecure about their own tastes and can only bring themselves to like something if it thinks it's "Deconstructing" something (forget how deconstructions aren't a real thing anyway) or if they're moral lectures ragging on what they like being bad. My guy, Anno is literally an otaku indulging in recreating Godzilla, Ultraman, Kamen Rider, SB Yamato, etc.

>>286447096
ということですね。*

>>286447096
I would have translated that as
"it's that ultimately, it's okay, being with others"
idk how the fuck commas work in english

>>286446861
Commander

Asushin shipping should be classified as a mental illness

>>286447416
>the only pairing that gets an official art of marriage and kid
Maybe, just maybe, this is Anno's idealized pairing?
>in be4 Rebuild
Different story, different world
>in be4 this is just Asuka delusion
Don't care. The short is still directed by Anno himself. He likes Asushin enough to give fanservice. That's enough

>>286447679
This is what I mean.

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>>286447096
speaking of, I've seen enough discourse over the years to see that a contingent of people believe all of the ocean on earth is literally LCL now after 3I

even if all humans got tanged, hell lump in all animals too for the sake of it, you wouldn't have enough biomass. not to mention the water won't go anywhere
If anything, the red sea in One More Final is more to do with Rei's blood than anything else.
Once the blood goes away there's no reason the scenery in picrel couldn't be in the cards for a post-3I earth

>>286438583
Thank you Shinji!

>>286448813
Proving my point.

>>286448854
NTA but articulate your point please

>>286446170
>All organic life everywhere, right down to the smallest microbe, was literally evaporated overnight thanks to a globe-spanning Anti-AT Field (that's what it does, that's how it works, it was explained in Episode 12)
Actually that was because Adam fucking blew up, Lilith didn't do that
She just turned humans specifically, her children, into juice

what happened to the souls separated during 2nd impact anyway?

>>286447416
It won btw

>>286443499
Asuka saying "this feels horrible" as in "love feels horrible", a true tsundere to the core

>>286443499
>Asuka is lying to survive
Always the worst interpretation

>>286443903
Her body dissolved inside the cabin right before dying just like Shinji did when he reached 400% synch Berserk

Asuka and Shinji ain't worthy of themselves that's why they can't be worthy of each other.

>>286451322
…until the end

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>>286452074
legs

AsuShin is only about fucking and fucking hard in the most perverted ways void of any human dignity, don't pretend it's anything more.

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AHAHAH ASUSHIN WAS A DREAM!!!!!

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>>286452179
Sorry Ken-kun but this is real life
The avoidant schizo incel gets the girl

>>286438618
What's strange about Evangelion, particularly considering Shinji is a traumatized child soldier, is that he still never reaches the point (well, until after he destroys the entire world) to just backhand Asuka and tell her to shut the fuck up.

Shikinami didn’t even mention Kensuke once

>>286434038
By choking her out, he proved to her that he's strong enough to hunt wild animals and provide for their babies. It's just raw cavewoman instinct. She'll fall in line, accept his leadership, and he'll direct his aggression against threats and food animals in exchange for sex with her.

>>286452886
Cope

>>286453280
Seethe

>>286453332
>when yo bitch wife changes the channel to orange but you don't have the energy to argue

>>286452886
We were never deranged, or schizos, we were always right. The truth is only obnoxious to a liar.

>Asuka sees herself waiting until marriage
Interdasting

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>>286452179
>>286452214
>>286451888
>>286452886
Lmao, I can't get over this shit. A 30 min short broke this retard so how he starts Kensuke spamming. He needs art he found off of tumber while Anno actually made canon

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>>286452179
>>286452214
>>286451888
Shinji's fucking Asuka btw.

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>>286452179
This shit is so funny because outside of Shinji the only other person Asuka wants to spend her life with is fucking Mari. If this image wasn't pure headcanon already Anno just fucking killed it harder

>>286452214
>that face when Anno leaves you in the cuck corner the whole short

>>286451888
>Shinji is lucky he gets to fuck Asuka

>>286434038
Tsundere only want one thing;
>To be tamed and put in place by a dominant male that doesn't give two shits.
That's the facts. Tsundere are just humiliation fetishists, go figure.

>>286453648
Asuka does not indicate that she wants to spend her life with Mari.

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>>286453662
Don't call me "Xe", my pronouns are She/him and I hate Asushin and Anno

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>>286453572
Hmmmm...

>>286453689
She says she wouldn't mind that ending but not what she wants

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I can't wait for some actual news about the new series so there's something talk about, Eva threads have been so dogshit for a while.
Fucking shipniggers and their stupid schizo they keep feeding attention. Fuck off already

>>286453662
You lost so fucking hard it's unreal>>286453697

>>286453756
>>286453662
>>286452179
>>286452886
You stop seething and acting like you're some 4D shitposter already. You lost amd spent your time spamming BBC porn for nothing

>>286453463
>when yo bitch husband don't give you some rough loving even when you change the channel to orange knowing he hates it

>xe's >>286453825
having a meltdown again

>>286453756
Yep, now that Asushin conclusively won it’s time to move forward into the Tarome

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I wonder what his thought process was? That he would just do his Kensuke tard shit and everyone wasn't going to make fun of him?

I don’t think there’s much of a thought process, laugh at it and move on.

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>>286453756
>being this reimad

Don't you have some mogudan pictures to goon to or something?

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Imagine shitting on this

>>286454300
>>286454353
the merch asuka deserves

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>>286454300
>>286454353
>>286454374
Sounds like the sad cries of losers to me.

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>>286454394

>So buckbroken he’s left posting merch of the winner
That’s rough buddy

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>>286454497
Cry more faggot, skin fags are cute!

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>>286446170
As long as the sun, moon, and the earth exist, everything will be alright.

As long as you have the will to live, anywhere can be paradise.

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>>286455426

>>286434038
Average woman

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>>286455426
Yeah...

>>286446170
>All organic life everywhere, right down to the smallest microbe, was literally evaporated overnight

>now those Cyclopean mountains of sinister non-Euclidean alien meat are beginning to ROT

fyi these two are mutually exclusive. nothing rots without microbes around.

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>>286457158
Can't expect shitposters to use logic.

>>286452179
A fantasy actually.

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i love asuka so much it makes me feel nauseous

>>286458211
We know, Shinji.

>>286458069
An aspect of Asuka’s happiness that she promises to fight for in reality*

>>286458515
That's not at all what she's fighting for.

>>286458695
>I’m going to fight for my happiness
>We see what fantasy makes her happiest
>These two are unrelated
Lol

>>286458736
>We see what fantasy
>fantasy
Now you know why she dropped it.

>>286458905
Yeah, to find her happiness in reality with her own hands, what’s not clicking here?

>>286458941
>to find her happiness in reality
Which is not that fantasy, because it's a fantasy divorced from the canon narrative.

>>286458069
>>286458515
>>286459184
Kencuck is seething again. How many times a thread are you gonna keep doing this? Why does he just accept the short and move on like everyone else

>>286459184
Right, it’s a version of that fantasy that can exist in reality.

Maybe Im schizo but the final scene of the short when Asuka rejects Shinji is too similar to Retake, and Asuka even said "retake" a few times in the short.
Maybe this is Anno acknowledging Retake? Or he's a hack and copies from a doujin

>>286460074
Game recognizes game

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Asuka's feet
On my face

>>286460074
It was pretty big back in the day, I'd be surprised if he's never come across it or had a fan/staff member mention it.

>>286434038
When Shinji became dangerous he became hot. Simple as.

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>we fucking won
It's weird how some people like us intuitively understood Anno's portrayal of a couple's struggles with love and held this position for so many years and now he just comes out after making rebuilds, rightfully shits all over them, and proclaims that Asuka will achieve her dream of getting impregnated by Shinji through her strength in her own reality. It genuinely feels surreal. But I guess Anno really was our guy all along.

>>286444506
I'm pretty sure this is the actual intended reading of the short
congratulations anon

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>>286461745
Is it even possible to watch NGE without realizing that both of them are attracted to each other without being autistic?

>>286461745
As it turns out when the affection is directly reciprocated she turns all giggly and sweet just like with kaji.

>>286462760
good grief she's NAKED!

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>>286462769
>just like with kaji.
wouldn't this part make that obvious?