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Welcome back to The Program! Last we've seen is Sugimura getting his shit kicked in by none other than the cold killing machine that is Kiriyama. Will he live? Or will it be another 2 notches on Kiriyama's kill list?
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Chapter 88
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Sugi is crashing out, and Kiriyama is just standing there, menacingly.
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Waow Kayoko does something. She ranks slightly lower than Takako now.
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Oh ffs. I hate when the page is close to another page 10 pages ahead.
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That would make perfect sense in an alternate setting.
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Page 26 here.
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I'd agree with you on that. Except for the fact that she solo'd a guy on her own. Still, Kayoko shot when it counted while Takako hesitated, so I'll give you that.
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Chapter 89
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You don't have the Kiriyama magic. It flies off and comes right back for the perfect pose.
Coincidentally I did the same, but with trench coats.
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Kiriyama loves fucking up people with their own weapons.
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Round 2! Fight!
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Chapter 90
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this is stupid
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BS to match BS.
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>CAUSE I FEEL
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have seen something like this in a movie i think it was Shaolin Soccer
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He has scaled his own wall.
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I'd call this retarded, but knowing Kiriyama's feats, I'll give it a pass.
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Let the Kiriyama BS commence! Kung-fu edition!
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the "ripples" are "spreading"
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Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
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It gets boring when you're repeating it so much, mangaka-san.
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Chapter 92
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REVERSAL
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YES!!! Finally some fucking real damage!
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Sugimura talking mad shit to someone dead yet.
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>head wounded
>right arm shot out
>multiple hits to his torso
He's so fucked once Shuuya and Shogo show up. No way he gets off scot-free this time.
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STOP FUCKING BRAGGING HE'S STILL STANDING.
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100% this and marines in OP. Tbf if you're just chilling its a comfy way to wear it (bit warmer than nothing but cooler than fully wearing) but anything more vigorous than a walk and itll fall off.
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Always shoot 'em dead Sugi.
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But he just did.
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E X I T
>till death do us part
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Why not do this in the bathroom?
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Not her house and free real estate, literally.
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It feels like he took a little too much liberty with the characteriztions. But then again, manga is supposed to make exaggerations in the first place, even to the extreme.
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Why didn't we get this scene in the film?
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>BR got woke
owari da
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I think that at the end of each volume (or maybe it was just the final volume?), the author of the original novel appears, saying that he read the adaptation month by month, that the mangaka consulted him about the changes, and that he liked some of them and even felt that they characterized the characters better or something like that. And also something about how manga and novels are different media and therefore have different approaches.
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Safe to say taking the piss. That anon who knows the raws would say something about it.
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Not the raw anon, but I read the Italian version yesterday to see the differences, and there the text just says something like "I get what you mean but," the whole "He's not a monster, just a boy" is still there later, but it seems like they emphasize it way more here
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I like this kanji test. It's interesting. I wonder if it's kept true to the raws.
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I don't think it was a very straightforward relocation considering there are personal belongings everywhere, but it probably wasn't a violent one either since there isn't any sign of damage in any of these houses.
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>committed to killing
That's the problem.
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Shuuya is STILL hopemaxxing. This is why Shogo has to do this.
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Trump was a celebrity at the time. Lots of movie cameos and had his own TV show where he fired people.
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Aaaand done! Danke fer comin'!
Looks like next time is a showdown between the apexes. Who'd come out on top to go shoot up Shuuya's group for the win? Unstoppable Kiriyama or Hardcore Souma?
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Someone else would have to do that. I tried to it once on cytube and another site for a friend and it just wouldn't do.
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You know what. True. Even blacks hate a nigger.
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It's not being racist per se, but just all round dialogue. Fuck it, I'm racist and I love racist jokes and fried chicken.
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>>286444553Sugimura finds Kayoko, but she gets scared and shoots him. As he lies dying, Sugi explains her how to reunite with Shuuya’s group. When Kayoko realizes that he was a good guy and he genuinely cared about her, she breaks down and cries over his dead body. Then Mitsuko appears and kills her
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It's been nearly twenty years since i've read the manga and despite knowing how this moment would play out I still somehow deluded myself into thinking things might be different. As if enough time passing would change things.
I think i stopped reading for a few days after this arc back in the day. I had enjoyed what an unstoppable beast Kiriyama was up until he killed one of MY favorite characters. Yes, I was a little salty that he killed Mimura but enjoyed the fight he put up. On the other hand, I felt Sugimura was fucking robbed by the narrative and that upset me as a young teen. Rereading though, I can appreciate the tragedy of it all a bit more, really bittersweet for our two lovebirds. Kayako was pretty cool too, I dont even remember her pulling the trigger and threatening Kiriyama. Good shit.
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As others have said, he's been an actual laughing stock for decades, those of us not in the US kinda found it insanely hilarious you voted the guy in. Well it's more his outlandish products that inventively fail, russian mail-order bride and TV personality.
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By the way the reason she didn't run away here is because she wanted to let Sugi know she loved him too. Giffen decided to just replace her telling him she loved him too with Sugi complaining for some reason.
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I think the idea they were operating under was seriously just "We work on manga but we want to try to grab american comic fans, who we know nothing about. Let's hire a big american comic writer and just not question anything he does because he knows the market better."
Apparently this guy's a pretty well-respected American comics writer? No idea, though.
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Same. Mimura's death was a bummer, but when i first read it, Sugimura's death made me physically ill for several days.
Never has a character's death in any piece of fiction hurt as much. I really wish things had gone differently for him.
If only he had double tapped.
He really got unlucky too, if a single one of those bullets would have hit Kiriyamas neck/head he'd have been a goner. Or any in his legs and he probably would have struggled getting to them sneakily like that.
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I'm surprised nobody commented on how nice this kick was.
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And the fact that his coat just followed him and landed straight on his shoulders. It's so insane that it's great.
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When i first read this like 15 yrs or so ago, i was so surprised by the sudden ki/magic powers that i wondered how japanese audiences reacted when those chapters first aired.
Does anyone know how this was received?
I loved it but i can see it being somewhat contentious.
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There's no ki in the japanese version. He just gets deeper awareness because of ikebana stuff, so they probably loved it because becoming a super-aware martial arts genius because you stared at flowers and nature for a long time is the ultimate Japanese fantasy.
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One of those "It was a simulation all along" things?
Ironically that would be an interesting plot. An authoritarian government places a classroom of 15 year olds into a life or death simulation and evaluates their futures on how each one performs under pressure.
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This is literally what Danganronpa 2 was if I remember right. Or it was at least a simulation of a killing game for high schoolers but for a different (dumber, if I remember right) reason. But nobody actually died or something.
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Takako rents free inside Sugimura's head and soul.
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Ah, the well know moment
>I've carved my own path
>You followed your wrath
>But maybe we're both the same
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TV show
Telemundo reality show hosted by Trump
Army Simulation
Gantz mumbo jumbo simulation
Spell from the XXXolic witch.
Shared dream due to some Itoesque things.
Day after.
Everyone is confused, scared, embarassed.
A pair of suicides as usual...
But...
Yuichiro enters the classroom, he feels an hand on his right shoulder.
Mitsuko says, "You are coming with me..."
(Yuka approval seal)
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>Apparently this guy's a pretty well-respected American comics writer? No idea, though.
He is, but is really weird that his most famous works are sitcoms with superheroes so I don't get why he decided to go full edgelord here
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>>286451976
That kind of explains it honestly. The original story is pretty dark obviously, even in Japanese. If he just wasn't familiar with that kind of material, I guess this is just him trying to take something "dark" and make it "darker" without really understanding how that kind of story is supposed to work.
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>>286442467
>I wonder if it's kept true to the raws.
It is. A lot of this chapter's the same. He doesn't guess at how mitsuko and kiriyama would respond to the test, his main point is just that Mitsuko's at least a human so it's possible to think of her in those terms. He says Kiriyama's completely empty and that he's basically just a human-shaped alien, impossible to compare to anybody else in the program.
I think the one big goof here is Shuuya here >>286442554 saying that Kiriyama would be a "mercy killing". In the raws he's just saying Kiriyama's still a human too and there has to be a reasoning to him, and his thoughts are played over a scene of Kiriyama smashing a picture of a happy family which kind of proves him right. So in the English version he's giving up on Kiriyama right as it's shown that he SHOULDN'T be, but in the raws he's NOT giving up on Kiriyama and we're getting a hint that maybe he's right. Also I guess "Monsters aren't born they're made" is a fine line that basically gets the point, but Shuuya still isn't thinking of Kiriyama as a "monster" at this point which I think is important.
Also I don't think Kawada ever explicitly says he'd rather deal with Mitsuko than Kiriyama, in this chapter at least.
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>>286441334
This is where the translator's hubris reaches peak retardation. Sugimura's supposedly the token taciturn and socially awkward character of the main cast yet here he is at death's door spewing one-liners like Sean Connery on cocaine. It's almost charming how stupid it is.
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