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How does this bum rule the world for 800 years while having a massive intelligence network and know nothing at all?
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Oda forgot Lilith is on Elbaph (and Bonney)...
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How was Imu supposed to know? The WG has no information on Elbaph because they are an isolated nation like Wano and God Valley. There are over 20 million islands in the One Piece world and the Nidhogg fruit could've been on any one of them.
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Another mihawk upscale right here.
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nigga how fast are you speedreading? the Wg doesnt have intelligence networks in every single country in the world. Elbaf is the country of the giants and unaffiliated with the government. Until Harald became a Hk there was no contact. imu doesnt know shit about elbaf.
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Imu was literally in Harald's mind and made him create the circle, why wouldn't he look at this secrets and see the fruit was in Elbaph? Harald had to genuinely fight Rocks and a bunch of pirate crews to even sell himself to Imu.
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>>286446113
Mega hack. But Kuina being suicidal while talking to Zoro and "having an accident" the next day seemed weird already. Would have been way better if they said she stabbed herself to death or something.
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They forgot to show Monet alive in a coverstory, we are all still waiting
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>oneshot Kid, Kaido and Loki
How the fuck is a jobber like BB supposed to beat him?
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>>286445924
Imu barely does any actual governing, they just fuck around in the garden all day. Not too dissimilar from most of the CDs, who technically run the world but practically just let the marines do all the work as long as they get what they want.
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Kizaru...Imu cannot directly read the memories of people. Otherwise Imu would've fucking known about Saturn keeping Emeth around as research material.
The only thing Imu told Harald was to conquer Elbaph for the WG, not about taking any fruit.
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>>286446397
why are shanksissies so delusional? They seem to have forgotten how blud got RAPED by HK Harald kek
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Why did Oda mean by this?
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why would it be there? Devil fruits spawn in random spots across the world. Its why the fucking gum gum (joyboy's fruit) and yami yami (davy jones fruit) constantly roamed without ever being found by the government.
The chances of Nidhogg being in Elbaph is equal to any other island in the planet and there are a lot of fucking undiscovered islands.
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Vegapunk was trying to make Loki's fruit but refuses to tell the strawhats anything actually relevant lol.
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>chinese dragon
>akshually, it's just a model of a fish-fish fruit
>Nidhogg
>mythical dragon-dragon fruit
I fucking hate zoans.
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>>286447004
>he doesn't know
Kaido's fruit was referencing a classic Japanese story blud. The koi fish swimming up the waterfall.
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me when I make things up
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>>286447083
A piece of trivia so esoteric everyone who played Pokemon knows it.
It's still retarded for a model of a fish to also be its own category.
I hated Zoans ever since Oda started grouping them and splitting into models.
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>>286446417
This always bothered me. You're telling me that franky molded steel to look like bulky versions of his arms pre-ts, but post-ts he was only able to make cube arms out of a wonderous metal you could turn into literally anything?
What gives?
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Why not? Its a funny twist on the dragon thing. And it fits that Kaido's devil fruit is an Eastern Dragon/Shenron type.
>I hated Zoans ever since Oda started grouping them and splitting into models
That was a thing since forever. And if Oda didn't do this then it would just make things more confusing.
And it makes sense that mythical zoans would be so powerful considering they are based on entities which likely existed during the First World.
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How hard will you cope when he returns to the Elbaf arc and has his revenge on Dorry & Broggy by one-shotting them with a single Damned Punk?
Hes going to go kill Shanks after that btw.
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>>286446019
I really hope my boy gets to plap Lilith by the end of all of this bros...but I'm worried it might also be gay if he does that. At the very least these two should be platonic best friends.
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>New Monster Trio:
Luffy, Loki and Ragnir
>Strong Trio:
Zoro, Sanji and Jimbe
>Weird Trio:
Franky, Brook and Robin
>Weakling Trio:
Usopp, Nami and Chopper
All of this is irrefutable btw
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>>286447288
it'd be gay if he didn't
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It was always a hammer that ate a squirrel fruit. Same as Elbaph eating a nidhogg fruit. Otherwise I could find and eat an Elbaph fruit that turns me into the "God of War" and I grow to be the size of an ancient giant, turn into a dragon, summon an ice squirrel and manifest a hammer all of which are extensions of my will
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>>286445924
Bring us imunko pussy
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Where is Stussy?
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>>286445924
>One of the strongest fruits in the world
>Original owner dead
>Wait for new user to show up
>Nobody shows up
>Fruit must be hidden somewhere or by someone
>Could be literally anywhere
>Look everywhere
>Could look in the strongest nation in the world
>That's risky
>Could look literally anywhere else first
Imu's assumption was that such a strong fruit would be coveted by everyone, so it could have ended up anywhere. Just turns out, that it was secretly protected by a squirrel god whose soul inhabited a first world relic weapon.
So it is a
>this would be the worst place for it to be... of fucking course it was there all along.
Situation.
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>>286448872
not to mention
>Hmm, nobody has shown up having eaten it since before I was born...it's probably buried in a chest at the bottom of the ocean or something in one of those islands that stopped existing when I flooded the world
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>>286449000
Loki said he did not roam that far (never met a holy knight, or go to the red line)
No reason why Loki would ever have the need to transform, the number of pirates who would want to fight an ancient giant is exceedingly low in the first place.
Also seems like Loki was not tearing shit up while he was out at sea, rather he might have focused on finding the warhammer company or clues to their whereabouts.
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Yet he never did. So Loki did something else during those 8 years. The WG/Marines have limited presence in the new world. Loki never attacked Mari Geoise, nor did he destroy any marine bases. Surely we would be informed if he did. No point in keeping that information hidden if it ends up being "he attacked some marine bases"
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>>286446033
If anything it is a Mihawk downscale, because it completely nullifies the headcanon that “MUH STRONK HAKI MAKE BLACK BLADE”. There is absolutely no way the ORIGINAL NIKA, a literal god wouldn’t be able to turn his blade black, it clearly is the case that black blades are just hand me downs created by perfected craftsmen.
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In addition to what anon said, Imu doesn’t know what Gunko’s relationship to Brook was, they flat out asked Brook how he knew Gunko Pop.
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Franky is so lucky
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oh shit it's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sKjdYceH04
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goodnight /opg/
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>>286449480
considering the satellites are just alters in a system and all of them exist in his real brain at the same time, I assume each of them chose their own chassis after Vegapunk did whatever he did to repeatedly split his psyche like them
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Its nip humor, seriously a male sociopath makes most women look like saints, its a error from the simp instinct causing men to think women are angels so they lose it whenever they act shitty while ignoring men that act shitty.
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>>286449680
>manga goes back to Loki wank
>Scotch no longer tells people to fasten their seatbelts
How curious.
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>>286449819
Vegapunk simply had a lot more greed in him than genuine malice, so the embodiment of all the evil within him wasn't very evil at all and just making fun of people and yelling at them, meanwhile the embodiment of all the green within him could do anything in cold blood in the name of getting more
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Our HEROES
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>>286450114
nah oda wouldn't have humiliated Shanks by making him get anal raped by HK Harald then
>>286450142
Loki isn't a mary sue either kek.
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>>286449399
>Finally a good look at Dorry and Brogy
Nice
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>>286450315
Nothing about him fits the profile of a Mary Sue.
>>286450356
Shanks has plenty of character flaws and weaknesses. The faggot refuses to meet up with Luffy and does shady shit offscreen like destroying the Barto club or meeting up with the gorosei.
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>Bring us Imunkos PUSSY
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>>286449385
Chadnir is PK+ tier, he easily defeated Harald and the previous 3000 years of gigant kings.
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>>286450596
No wonder he tried to kill himself. I would too. Imagine being so inferior to others who are so far above you that the only thing you can do your entire life is get drunk to cope, force your henchmen to call you Joyboy to make yourself feel better (similar as to how trannies force you to live in their fantasy world), and attempt suicide, all because you're too inferior and weak.
It's just so pathetic. I can't think of anything more pathetic than Laido besides his subhuman fans.
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>No wonder he tried to kill himself. I would too. Imagine being so inferior to others who are so far above you that the only thing you can do your entire life is get drunk to cope, force your henchmen to call you Joyboy to make yourself feel better (similar as to how trannies force you to live in their fantasy world), and attempt suicide, all because you're too inferior and weak.
It's just so pathetic. I can't think of anything more pathetic than Laido besides his subhuman fans.
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>Rocks: Harald I need your countries legendary devil fruit
>Harald: alright it’s in the vault down the corridor take it if you can
>Rocks: huh alright that was easy
( 3 minutes later )
>Rocks in the infirmary: I will never mess with a squirrel ever again!
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>Oda wouldn't disrespect him like that.
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>Loses Robin to Jinbe
>but gets Lilith in return
Is that a net positive?
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This stuff is nice but doesnt fit OP, its a shitty pirate adventure tale. Oda is such a hack that he puts good ideas in poorly written arcs in OP than save them for another manga. Imu is the most obvious example with the fucker having an unexplained magic power system.
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>>286450963
why did Vegapunk make Lilith more fertile than prime Big Mom?
>>286450964
Nice try, doomkek. Also unexplained shit have always existed in One Piece. Look at Ms Golden Week and fucking Jango's abilities. Look at Hawkin's weird tarot card shit. None of those are devil fruit abilities. If you weren't a speedreader then you would know this.
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>>286450979
Ragnir only plays nice if you 1v1 him, if you don't he uses his ice powers to insta win, and then your whole crew ends like the Galleyla dudes, frozen for millenia.
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>I'm getting horny...
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>>286451067
>Ragnir can only move with the strength of a squirrel.
Aka Titanic strenght. Near godlike strength. Ancient Squirrels are the forgotten strongest race in OP.
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>>286451074
>Luffy doesn't have the balls to kill someone
Probably, but Loki will be there.
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>Leave SHITtingham to me
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>>286451069
Its the usual recency bias, people are seeing Loki do some cool stuff right now and so they proceed to wank him to high heaven while forgetting the fact that he jobbed to a young Shanks, who should be weaker than the other yonkos. They will do the same shit with whoever ends up being the super strong guy of the next arc
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>>286451263
Why do you assume that just because he lost to Shanks that it means Loki is weaker than the other Yonko?
Haven't you considered that this simply means Shanks is far stronger than we thought? This does not change the fact that Loki is stronger than HK Harald and is thus PK++ tier (Harald in his normal form was equal to Rocks who was pirate king tier and Loki defeated a stronger version of Harald).
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>>286451263
holy shit robin is so fucking ugly
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>>286451263
>he jobbed to a young Shanks
Loki getting RATed and backstabbed doesn't make Shanks stronger.
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Why is it retarded? Shanks has Joyboy level conquerors haki and is considered the Child of Destiny.
Why is it so hard to believe that Oda will make him PK+++ and stronger than Loki and the Yonko? Oda said that when Shanks beings showing up more frequently that we are closer to the ending.
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>*begins showing up more frequently
Also he is Luffy's mentor and idol figure so its not surprising that he is far, far stronger than Kekdo or Big Meme. Besides, all of this is assuming that he even defeated Loki in the first place. Haven't you simply considered that Shanks never actually fought Loki? If so then Loki being extremely strong does not break the story.
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>less than 24 hours until volume 114 officially comes out in japan and still no sbs leak
what the fuck happened we usually get it 3-4 days early
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nta but your only problem with Loki being super strong is because Shanks beat him right? Well none of that is an issue if Shanks never actually defeated him in the first place. And you really can't deny Loki's strength as portrayed by Oda in the last few chapters. Hes literally stronger than HK Harald who was so fucking strong that not even Imu or Gaban thought anyone could beat him.
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>>286446820
I love the way Oda draws Western dragons. They look less edgy, and more like something out of a childhood story book.
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Dragonbros... we jobbed....
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The celestial dragons are being surrounded by enemies from all sides ever since Vegapunk's message.
Imu's line was referring to people surrounding the Red Line becoming restless. It doesn't mean that Mary Geoise was under attack.
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>he
The Mother Flame has limited ammunition and you can only fire so many shots at a time. The Giants were literally considered so important that their support can tip the balance of the war which is why Imu wanted them.
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>the insects are angry and buzzing around
>these are the end times, better get that giant army now or I'M FINISHED
>Killingham, go make an immortal army to take over Elbaph for me, gotta break their spirit
>I need an army so bad right now, these hakilet plebs could destroy everything
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>>286445924
all planned like the fact that even he didn't know what the fuck to do with laughtale before wano, 200iq
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not true they choose the nearest compatible fruit so they often remain on the same island, espailly if they are big
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyG3b3mCOXc
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Honestly seeing Killingham get broken to pieces like that wasn't satisfying. It feels like Oda has a really hard time punishing villains. He rarely kills them in the first place even when they by all rights should and deserve to have died whenever they get defeated, but they're just knocked out and either bandaged up somewhere still the same, or they're in prison with no signs of rehabilitation, remorse or even suffering.
Like Killingham's been a bastard ever since he debuted and he's been humiliated and shat on like twice now, and it'll probably happen a third time before the arc ends but he gets up like a looney tunes character and continues to be a bastard. Same goes for Charlos.
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Yonbros…we’re a Warlord tier measuring stick now.
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>not true they
See >>286448872 >>286448912
>with laughtale before wano
Imu doesn't give a shit about Laugh Tale.
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>we saw the nidhog fruit. it wasn't giant sized
Hum... with Odas scale you never know, but given Lokis size, this DF might be 1meter long.
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>>286451263
Nah, you’re just a salty lil bitch. I’ve been a pro-Loki poster since he first appeared chained to the tree, and it’s only been funnier and funnier seeing the general consensus here going even more positively for Loki as time goes on, to the point now even TamaTaco spams Loki just because it makes the Carrotard upset.
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>Killingham
This is not Killingham...
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>Why is it retarded?
Because it makes no fucking sense for someone to be stronger than one of Roger's main rivals while being a glorofied supernova, its retarded levels of wank just for the sake of wanking Loki, way worse than even fucking Oden. If Loki isnt as strong than the Yonko then suddenly everything makes sense, this whole debate serves no purpose besides wanking him
>Shanks has Joyboy level conquerors haki
CURRENT Shanks has that shit, not the young one
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>Shanks never actually defeated him in the first place.
He clearly didnt want to be chained up, and Shanks capturing him is what made him be recognized as a Yonko, so the implication is that they did fight. But sure, if Shanks just got him drunk and then captured Loki then it would be more acceptable
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>Kaido could've made King rape and impregnate every Wano female and by now 20 years later he would've gotten an army of lunarian
>Dumbass chose to create some knock off fodder DFs and feed them to fodder for 20 years and only build up 500 army of fodders
Kiddie series.
If Togashi was writing this, he would not let such dumb plot to happen
inb4
>"b-but there's no proof lunarians can have children with humans"
Gaban states that basically every race can breed with one another.
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>If Loki isnt as strong than the Yonko then suddenly everything makes sense
Loki is supposed to be a GOD entity that can rival the other Gods of the verse (SunGod, Imu, Hellfireserpent etc) These things are the apex of strenght and simple Yonkeks are just insects compared to them.
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>Because it makes no fucking sense for someone to be stronger than one of Roger's main rivals while being a glorofied supernova
I'm not a Shanks fan but even I can tell that Oda loves him a lot. He was one of the first characters introduced into the series and has major endgame important. His character is tied with so many other plotlines and major players and he is Luffy's idol. Oda even made him the Destined Child and said his more frequent appearances indicate the story is closer to it's end. Given all of this do you really find it hard to believe that Oda will make Shanks incredibly strong? And besides, the oldgen like Roger and Rocks and Garp aren't the peak. Its been emphasized many times of how the new/current gen have surpassed them.
>CURRENT Shanks
The version of Shanks which defeated Loki was 8 years after Harald died. Is it hard to believe he grew his Joyboy level conquerors haki from that battle?
>He clearly didnt want to be chained up
Loki is a tsundere character who doesn't like showing his feelings. But he has shown no ill will towards Gaban or even Shanks (calls him a great pirate towards Shamrock). Its clear that he doesn't actually hate Shanks and he even knows where Shanks is headed to next. Is it really so hard to believe that Loki was convinced not to pursue his goal and wait until Luffy/Joyboy arrives?
Keep in mind that Loki has a gigantic dragon transformation and could've simply flown to Marygeois any time. But he didn't for 8 years so he was doing something else. And that isn't mentioning Ragnir as well. If Shanks did defeat Loki then nobody would've been able to pick up Ragnir and drag him to Elbaph. In fact, its very likely that Loki willingly agreed to settle down and chain himself and then set down Ragnir on to the ground.
>implication is that they did fight
As I said, we don't know that for sure. Everything surrounding Loki and Harald turned out to be lies or half-truths so don't be surprised if this fight never happened.
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And he lost to a young Shanks, wich is my whole point
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I know that he loves Shanks, but even then he hasnt completely broken his own verse like Lokifags propose, just for the sake of making Shanks look good
>Is it hard to believe he grew his Joyboy level conquerors haki from that battle?
Absolutely? Did you forget that he lost his damn arm after that?
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Luffy grows way faster than everyone else, he is the MC and the second coming of pirate Jesus. The Shanks the defeated this "WAY ABOVE THE YONKO" Loki was just a but older than the Shanks that lost his arm to a fish
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||domi reversi nika by davy jones||
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>>286452442Nika is LunarianElbaf is DFull Moon vs Half Moon.
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Godki
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Imu is a woman
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>>286452442
That would explain why this gigant devil in the left has ancient gigant horns. Then again it doesn't explain why it has the Forbidden Star, Logically the Earth God and Imu are the ones that has (had) it.
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No. Nika is a completely different entity and opposed to the Earth God/Forest God. Imu's mythical zoan transformation looks nothing like Nika's silhouette and Imu's ideology is the opposite of what Nika stands for.
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>>286452917
Big Mom aside, a woman has never been the villain of a serious arc for almost thirty years now. Why the fuck would Oda mske his ultimate/penultimate antagonist a woman out of nowhere? And a possible lesbian with a serious romantic subplot from 800 years ago when homosexuality has only ever been played for laughs in this story?
Is there ANY thought being put into this insistence that Imu’s a woman? Any at all?
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>Imu's ideology is the opposite of what Nika stands for.
We know nothing about Nikas ideology, he is someone that destroyed the world, the slaves saw him as a liberator, others saw him as the incarnation of destruction. But the reasoning behind Nika (and Imus) actions are completely unkown.
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>>286453098
You're making a lot of assumptions there anon.
A man wouldn't walk like this. Also there is no evidence that Imu is a lesbian and loves Lili. It can also mean that she hates her for betraying the WG. Imu didn't know whether Lili's action to spread the poneglyphs was a mistake or not.
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That is one of the future happenings I want to see the most.
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I fucking love Sommers now. What the hell is wrong with him?
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maybe I'm retarded, but since anime pictured imu as a giant dragon, and he was searching for loki fruit, then maybe those faggots are indeed celestial dragons, like aliens from space and nidhogg once was a real being before he became turned into a fruit
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>someone saved my irrefutable
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>>286453128
>We know nothing about Nikas ideology
Nika was born from the desires of slaves to be free. He is seen as their liberator, but as a destroyer from the point-of-view of the tyrants. This is unsurprising considering Nika dismantles the whole system which creates such servitude.
Imu is the complete opposite of that and represents absolute order.
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>given his black skin in jarul's panel, he might genuinely have been a lunarian.
Lunarians worship Nika... once they were considered god of the world, and they have flames in their back, so the "Sungod" name would make a lot of sense if Nika was a Lunarian.
The ancient Gigants were the strongest race of the planet Earth while the Lunarian come from the Moon... Lots of potential lore plotwists with all this stuff.
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>>286453260
>A-AAAAEEEEIIIII DORRY AND BROGGY-SAMA!
>PLEASE SPARE MEEEE!!!!
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>Nika was born from the desires of slaves to be free.
Praying has never helped anyone. I don't take that literally.
>Imu is the complete opposite of that and represents absolute order.
Its a cycle, the liberators and revolutionaries of one tyrany, eventually become the next tyrany that has to be defeated by new liberators and revolutionaries.
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>>286452256
>>Kaido could've made King rape and impregnate every Wano female and by now 20 years later he would've gotten an army of lunarian
That's actually not a bad idea, well, compared to making an army of half-formed quimeras.
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>>286453203
everything about the tennies is a LARP, from their costumes to their insistance that they are gods, to how they built their kingdom of Marygoise where the Lunarians once lived as god-kings.
the reason even the name of the Ancient Kingdom is taboo is because it was the Celestial Dragon Kingdom. The 20 'Creators' killed them and took everything, even their names, because they wanted to be them so bad. And anyone that finds out the name of the ancient kingdom can immediately put two and two together.
This revelation is what the Roger Pirates laughed at. That their world is ruled by the equivilents of cavemen that killed some astronauts to steal their clothes becayse oooh shiny, with zero understanding of how anything works or what its true function is
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Who do you think this guy was?
My current guess is that the Earth God was the one who actually founded the Ancient Kingdom following the First Apocalypse. I think after the first Nika destroyed everything during the battle, the Earth God was the one who initiated construction of a new society who wouldn't make the same mistakes as the previous advanced civilization during the First World.
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>but since anime pictured imu as a giant dragon
Ehh, more like a black blob, looked more like a toad than anything.
>then maybe those faggots are indeed celestial dragons, like aliens from space and nidhogg once was a real being before he became turned into a fruit
Yeah it's quite obvious that the Celestial Dragons are named after actual dragons at this point. There's a chance that all the 4 god fruits, including Nika, are actually dragons. Luffy might genuinely end up as a dragon, hence why his dad's named Dragon.
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>>286453136
Imu doesn’t have total control of Gunko, so some of her body language could leak through his possession. She also has wider hips than he’s used to, and in that panel hovering, so maybe her legs just hang that way while suspended
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I think that's the son of the earth god and imu's ancestor, who survived the cataclysm by fleeing to the Adam Tree wuth all the other refugees
Oda had Imu echo what Hiyori said to Orochi. Ergo, in Imu's eyes, ruling is Imu's birthright and Davy Jones was an usurper whose brief rule of the world was illegitimate
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>>286453427
>all this copium
funny
>Imu doesn't have total control of Gunko
No evidence of that and this was before Brook showed up. And also no, Smoker in Tashigi's body still had masculine body language consistently.
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>First World
Most of the world is advanced due to the energy source of the Forbidden Sun, greed takes over, which leads to pollution, slavery etc
>Second World
Trying to learn from the mistakes of First World, one surviving nation decides to keep their advanced technology for themselves, not sharing it with the outer world in fear that the Forbidden Sun and their tech will be misused by greedy and corrupted people. This eventually leads to jealousy and resentment from the world's other nations, resulting in the world war. The King of the Ancient Kingdom might have been Davy Jones, whom Imu resents
>Third World
Imu once they won and took control, decided that nobody can have the advanced technology and considers it cancerous to society, deciding to permanently keep the world stuck in a 18th century state, and only he himself will have access to the Ancient Weapons, and new technology must only be used by mindless slaves, like the Pacifista, and now the Seraphim
Imu hasn't realized they've been corrupted all the same, like the people of the first two worlds. Luffy liberating the world will turn it free, but who knows what will happen with the technology?
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>>286453543
because its just charging up his next attack. may as well argue that 'long arms luffy' is a seperate form too
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>Who do you think this guy was?
The Earth God indeed. I think this dude was the Imu of the first world. The king of world and the owner of the Forbidden Star. He got replaced by the Lunarians (Nika?) and later Imu replaced the Lunarians and became the new Earth God.
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>Worororo, you'll never have to worry about the Government catching you for genetic samples anymore friend...how about giving me an army of your children though?
Friends don't make friends breed soldiers for them
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>>286453422
>Yeah it's quite obvious that the Celestial Dragons are named after actual dragons at this point.
Would be kinda funny if the name is LITERAL. Celestial Dragons = The dragons are aliens that conquered the human planet.
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>>286453549
I have a very similar idea to this, indeed is the UNLIMITED power of the Forbidden Star that caused all the wars and conflicts. In fact I think the One Piece is the Forbidden Star, Imu isn't using this power not by xher own choice but because Joyboy send the Forbidden Star to the future with Tokis power.
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>>286453583
In what way?
>Elbaph
Elbaph has existed for millenia. The 3000 year old lab has to be from the first world, and it looks like it was created for Giants too.
>Wano
Normal nation whom Joyboy befriended, decided to hide Pluton there and he or someone else erected the stone walls around Wano to protect it from invaders
>Lili
Who knows, maybe Imu is possessing her body, or she's still alive due to an immortality surgery, is hiding out in the Heaven Realm of Elbaf, and is the older woman Jarul likes.
>the Moon
Definitely one of the bigger mysteries for me. 100% First World in origin too. We know this because the Skypieans were given a Poneglyph by Lily and told to protect it, which means they were already living on the earth by the time of the Void Century. What I'm really curious about is the origin of all the different races in One Piece. Are the all genetic experiments created from base humans? Are some of them aliens etc? And what are the origins of the 4 gods, the Hellfire Serpent and Nidhoggr, the Forbidden Sun etc?
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>Haven't you considered that he WAS a Lunarian?
The Earth God? Very unlikely, Nika and Nidhogg surely fucking obliterated the first world, and a new order was established. Thousands of years after that comes the Void Century, where everything went to shit again and yet another new order was established (Imus)
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>In fact I think the One Piece is the Forbidden Star, Imu isn't using this power not by xher own choice but because Joyboy send the Forbidden Star to the future with Tokis power.
Yeah it definitely seems to be the most likely candidate for the One Piece atm, but I don't think it'll be the only thing either, like there might be actual treasure, Bink's Sake, the story of the Void Century, or some other things too. There's also this theory that the Forbidden Sun is mostly useless on its own, and you need another component, one which Imu posesses, to make it fully useable and/or functional. Together they become "One Piece".
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>>286453670
Saw the raws. This chapter ain't much.
>Imuko uses a special anti-dragon gun to shoot Loki down.
>Sommers regenerates and tries for a third time to kill everyone.
>Dorry and Broggy do not appear in this chapter
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>There's also this theory that the Forbidden Sun is mostly useless on its own, and you need another component, one which Imu posesses
I see the Forbidden Sun as fusion energy while the Mother Flame is the imperfect, downgraded version, fision energy. Fusion Energy is literally the power of the Sun, an unlimited power you can use to achieve anything, Vegapunk wanted this to create an utopia, but in the wrong hands is the power to conquer or even destroy the world.
So in a sense, yeah, the Forbidden Sun by itself is useless, its the source of the power you need to feed technology... that eventualy will be able to do anything, even creating the DF... or the ancient weapons that can destroy everything.
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Happy birthday to Sanji
Wish him a happy birthday!
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>>286454100
I think the Sun functions half like an actual sun and half like the Wishing Star from fairy tales. It powers machinery and makes the impossible phenomena we see in the One Piece like DF’s and bizarre weather real.
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Carrot was always good to Sanji
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>>286454414
>Narutard tries to consume OP and shows how retarded he is
Many such cases!
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SBS Leaks are starting. Oda remembered Stussy.
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>>286454468
Kid I was watching One Piece on RTL2 20 years ago when you weren't even born yet
You're retarded for posting "umm this would never le happen xD" like a faggot redditor as if there's no precedent of that happening in big shounen manga
Maybe if you "consumed" (lmao) more than one thing ever in the medium you wouldn't make retarded posts like that
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>>286454414
>B-but Kishimoto did it!!!!
Cool but Oda isn’t Kishimoto, and Naruto wasn’t a manga about great men, both good and bad, turning the wheel of history with their legendary exploits. It was a story of two brothers locked in eternal struggle to decide what ninjutsu ought to be used for; to subjugate people or to unite people
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>intrpduced 5 seconds ago
>is the STRONGEST
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>>286454510
That's a cute Stussy
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>>intrpduced 5 seconds ago
Speedy-kun...
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I hope Imu is a woman but at the same time I hope she isn't. If she's a woman, we'll steer clear of the inevitable incel/friendzoned/love triangle plotline with Lily, a male imu and joyboy and the also inevitable think pieces that will spawn from it.
But at the same time, if it is a woman, she'll get a huge insufferable fanbase comprised of waifushitters, women and numales and you can never criticize anything, from how she's written to what she actually does without being called misogynistic. And god save us from the shitstorm from these people if and when blackbeard cucks her from the final villain role.
Outside of fanbase bullshit, I'd actually prefer a woman because Imu would be one of the very few female characters I'd have high expectations for in terms of design, and storywise, I do think there's more interesting things Oda can do AND a generic love triangle plotline would just flat out be better with a female mu.
But Imu's definitely a guy. If we're lucky he's androgynous assuming the ink blob he is now isn't what he actually is.
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>>286454668
Source? I could see Oda doing this the week of Sanji's birthday. Zorohammeds are definitely gonna seethe kek
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>>286450054
>son of a holy knight and future Gorosei, the fleet admiral turns a blind eye for it
>found in a chest filled with gold by the pirate king
>already full of promise at a young age, everyone at Roger's crew believes he's the chosen one
>idol of the main character and future pirate king
>he """"sacrifices"""" his arm for the new generation, a bet that will of course pay off, despite this he still clashes with the strongest man in the world, drives away the strongest creature, looks stronger than the strongest swordsman and defeats Loki
>his haki is compared to that of a god, it scares an admiral from miles away, one shots Kidd and supposedly overwhelms the barrier fruit when Oden couldn't
>his daughter can end the world
>is friends with elbaf warriors, the strongest nation
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>The world fell to almost a 1000 years of darkness because all the great men of the past failed to take a tiny lil woman seriously until it was too late and her 10D chess move took them all out
Mite be kino
But Imu’s a guy
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>and not meant to be taken seriously
If they jobbed to her beauty like that then just imagine Boa kek. Roger might unironically get tittydiffed and turned to stone.
>"seriously start powerscaling Nami"
>he doesn't know Oda is foreshadowing Nami's CoC awakening through those beatings
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Ragnir is normal gigant sized. Between 20 and 30m. Luffy gigant form is ancestral gigant sized, same as Loki. So around 70-80m.
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>Muh Mythical Zoan
I'm 100% sure that the Chad Admirals can defeat all users of Mythical Zoan abilities
Logia>>>Mythical Zoan
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>>286447336
SERIOUSLY ODA? YOU TRADED THE SEXY AND BEAUTIFUL AND FUNNY YAMATO FOR BORING LOKI? YOU TRADED BEAUTIFUL AND STRONG AND CUTE CARROT FOR A FUCKING FAT LITTLE SHIT SQUIRREL? I HATE YOU ODA I HATE YOUuuuuuuuuuu....
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>Shamrock
Top 20
>Rocks
Top 20
>Loki
Top 20
>Gunko
Top 20
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>Pica
Smol and fragile...
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